I just finished my first movement fix/service last weekend and it was the 8200. I figured what the heck. I can either keep swimming around the comment sections of other real watchmakers or I can dive in! Of course, I only dove in after having spent hundreds$$ on minimum tools and lubricants after discovering watchmaking a couple months agov and binging service videos since. But yup, dove in. This is an older of your videos so I'm sure you've got the new tweezers and screw drivers in service, but the fact you would post a video using this pair is awesome! The average person just dabbling in something to see if they like it might only have access to a pair like that, but otherwise might be intimidated off by the expensive second mortgage tools and machines. Thanks for this!

Stunning indeed. Good job man.

Excellent video, and was very helpful regarding this model especially the oiling and grease parts as Im working on this movement at the moment.

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful and thanks!

Thankyou. i cant belive i repaired a citizen 7 eagle ❤

Thank you for this! Great video

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Hi Imran! Sorry for the late response but thank you very much for your comment! Im very glad that you enjoyed it

great workmanship... genius

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Hi there, Thank you very much ^^!

You are doing my head in with those tweezers.......either bend them straight again or re grind them to a good shape on some wet and dry or stone, hint dont make them too pointy unless you are going to do balance spring adjustments. Nice work

This was one of the best videos of this type that I've ever watched! You're so nice, incredible work, awesome shots, and good commentary!

@kurkkobain

10 ай бұрын

Assembly and desaaassembly is not a repair this si crap.

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Hey! I mean.. I technically repaird the dial sooo

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Hey! Im very glad that you enjoyed and it makes me happy to hear that ! Thanks alot ^^

I notice you're a bit clumsy in your work, breaking the pastic cog, flipping out the jewel, and one or two other slippages. But I'm happy to see you're one of the few watchmakers on KZread who will tackle an everyday Citizen watch. Most only work on Rolex, Omega, Breitling etc you know all the expensive Swiss movements because its not worth their effort to do a Citizen! So Bravo! for that. Do keep up the watchmaking work, you'll learn more and more all the time.

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Thanks alot! Yeah I mean, someone has to do it and those " cheaper" movements also have/ had a life and history so of course they are worth it :)

Omg you're so cool, I love to watch your Videos!!! :))

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Thanks aloooot

wow you actually completed the watch with a great repair good job

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Heyy! Thanks alot :)

Wheel count method: Mainspring barrel is #1, Escape wheel is #5, the wheel closest/connected to the escape is #4. Usually center wheel is #2 and the other mid wheel is #3. Experts, please correct if I'm wrong.

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Okey thanks alot for the tip on the wheel count! I'll keep that in mind in the following videos and update it if necessary!

lift angle should be 49, because it's a replica of 8215 which is 49. I thought aiming for a minimum amplitude of 270° is healthy. Also the Delta between horizontal and vertical positions shouldn't be more than 40°. You were satisfied with 20X°. I recommend Alex Hamiltons Videos on how to increase amplitude. Have fun going down the rabbit hole of buying equipment to do so :D

@peerhauser

11 ай бұрын

Since my comment I disassembled, cleaned and reassembled the 8200 5 times and I have to say, it's almost impossible to reach 270 amplitude. The highest I got was 260 on a factory new one and 240 on the original old one. If I'm honest I can't really find where Alex was mentioning 270, but I found that he talks about a minimum of 210 after 24h on manual wind movements and 190 for automatic. That means fully wound and then left running for 24h. He mentioned that to be the industry standard. And by the way, rewatching your video together with my practice on the same movement, the reason why the main power was not releasing is that the click was still in the wheel while you were only holding back the click spring. I levea the stem in to let down the power gradually while holding the crown. In that case, if you wind up first, the click disengages and you can hold it then in place and keep releasing slowly. Hope that helps for future projects. Best if luck to us both.

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Did you notice that 3rd wheel is bent? Strange, it was also bent in my Promaster. Also the pinion of the 3rd wheel is very wor in both the movements i have.

Your watch restoration and dial repair worked out very well! There something I saw about dial foot repairs and have not tried yet. Henry Fried's book "Bench practices for watch repairers" (page 233) describes how to make a dial foot clip out of copper or brass wire. It clips onto the dial and holds the wire in place while soldering. You then cut off the clip leaving the soldered foot. I will try it on a watch I have with one broken foot. I read that you also have to be very careful about the amount of heat. Too much heat may burn the lacquer/finish on the dial.

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Thanks alot! That's also a really good book recommendation! That book sounds really useful and I'll definetly check it out :)

Nice work, but...maybe that dial tilt was some other watchmaker's "chauffeur" mod on request..?

Does a 21-jewel movement actually have 21 synthetic rubies? I never seem to find this.

hello. nice video. wich cheminicals are you using to clean the watch part please ? thank you

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Hey thanks! I use lighter fluid ( benzin) to degrease and Isorpopanol to clean off this movement!

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Hi sir my watch not working when i rotating crown but watch does not working help me sir what is solution

I have same watch but the dial has damaged. Can you help me where can I get a new replacement dial from?

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Oh really! Thats so cool! By the way, is the watch/ reference still visible around the 6 O.Clock indice? If so could you let me know what it is, since a viewer has asked for it before and I would also love to know it, since my reference has faded away! But to answer your question, I dont know where to find the replacement dials since the dial is pretty rare I think. However you could just google the dial/watch case reference and hope that something comes up! Good luck :)

Bro you are actually applying too much oil, not too little. Also it would serve the watch much better if you apply the oil only in the very middle of the jewel. When you cover the sides or the top of the jewel -as you do- with oil it will pull the oil out from the middle leaving the pinion dry. This oil will then eventually spread out over the surface of the movement which isn’t supposed to have any oil on it.

Tolles Video 👍 woher bekomme ich Ersatzteile für ein Miyota Kaliber 8203? Ich finde leider nichts 🙄

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Danke! So weit ich weiß sollten auf erstem Blick die einzelnen Teile der 8203 mit der 8200 und 8205 vertauschbar sein.der Unterschied ist meiner Recherche nach eigentlich im Design der Schwungmasse und in der Form des Spiralklötchens! Also sollte es gehen! Falls du mehr Infos, oder weitere Fragen hast kannst mir einfach eine Email schreiben :)

Hello, I have a question to see if you can give me a hand, I have a citizen 7 eagle with the same movement (8200a), but it has been kept for a year and a half, I sold it yesterday and the buyer tells me that the watch has stopped for 3 sometimes even wearing it on the wrist...do you think that due to the time it has been stored it should be charged longer or perhaps it needs maintenance (lubrication)...what do you recommend, regards.

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Hi there! Thanks for the question :). These 8200A movements are quite old and the problems can definetly be from lacking lubrication and cleaning. And you should at least wear the watches a few days to store up and test the power. If you are not really active while wearing the watch, it definetly can stop often! If you know that the watch has been serviced recently, it could however be that something happend to the watch during transport or that something might have been faulty from the service. Hope the info helps! You can write me a E-Mail or comment if you have any other questions

@falomore

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your prompt response; I bought the watch on ebay, but I never wore it, I kept it for a year and a half, do you think it is necessary to wear it on the wrist for a certain number of hours after being stored for so long, or is that not important? The clock works for a few hours and stops, that is, it works intermittently, according to what the buyer tells me, what do you recommend?

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

@@falomore I would definetly say that it needs a few days on an active wrist. If however the watch doesnt functionally run after that, it is a clear sign that it needs a service. If you properly stated the condition of the watch then it should be the buyers responsibility.

I just send my eagle 7 to service on citizen, and they are saying that's not possible replace de crystal. Anyone can help me finding the right size and the right gasket for it ? I saw on AliExpress a lots of sapphire glasses so I don't think will be hard to find. Thanks you your video loved it ❤

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Hi! Well thats weird haha. Just google around on how to correctly measure and choose crystals and gaskets! There is a ton of information out there!

EIin Tipp: Eie Emla Rotier-Reinigungsmaschiene kostet zwar etwas, dafür dient die aber wieder die nächsten Jährchen und spart Unmengen an Zeit. und minimiert das Risiko die Teile bei der individuellen Reinigung zu beschädigen. U-Schall würde ich abraten, da es zu es die Beschichtung älterer und neuerer Werke beschädigen / angreifen kann. Falls du die Elma dann nicht mehr brauchst, kannst du die für's gleiche Geld weiter geben. Win-Win.

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Danke für den Tipp! Ich werde warscheinlich noch bis zum Ende des Jahres mir eine besorgen als art " Weinachtsgeschenk" an mich selbst hehe. Der markt ist relativ leer gerade aber ich finde schon was!

Counting the spokes will give you the # of the wheel. ex: third wheel got 3 spokes..etc. You can replace the watchmaker paper with Scott toilet paper, both have no fibers.

have you 3d printed the oil and grease cups?

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Hi Emil! I have not printed the oil and grease cups, they are the cheap plastic ones I have bought! I have hoever been thinking about building my own oiling stand so maybe watch out for that in the future!

Love It, what's the name of this specific model, i need to get one, it's beautifull

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for you comment ! I do love the look aswell. SadlyI cannot make out the exact reference on the dial. I did some research and I have yet to find the same model. But I'm sure it will pop up one day :) The Movement line however is the miyota 8200 and there are also other stunners there!

Hi, wo besorgst Du die Uhrengläser

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Kann ich dir gerne sagen. Ich kriege sie von Cousins Uk :)

Hi mate, how much did this project cost, with parts and time? Thanks😊

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Hi there! Sorry for the delayed answer! Around 50 for the watch and parts and around 6 hours I would say!

Is it ok if i clean all the part just by rubbing alcohol?

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

You should use some liquid, like lighter fluid, which would degrease and remove old oils. Of course only alcohol with a high percentage( mine is 98%) would do a very rough Job but could work!

Plz send details front glass and back glass citizen 7 eigle 21 jewelers

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Hi Pavan! I would love to help you but sadly that crystal sizes really depend on the difference case and casebacks. Since there are many variants im not sure that I can help you! It would be best if you would just measure it yourself or ask a professional to help you with it! Hope this helps you and good luck!

what is the name of your keyboard?

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

On Holiday but will check when back home xD. It was my mums old one though

Do you know the ref #?

@Berlintime030

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the question! Many people have asked this but I sadly do not have an answer! I managed to smudge the ref. number on the dial away :(

This is a replica movement in a Seiko case.

Be honest. Be completely honest - how much of a gap was there between 23:03 and 23:06 ?

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha you have a good eye! It wasnt actually that long, only around 20 seconds! I got the pinions in very fast. The first 8200s I worked on had at least 2/3 pinions breaking when I trried to fit on the main bridge and probably 30 minutes of frustration!

@headshot6959

Жыл бұрын

@@Berlintime030 Five pivots, not including the barrel, to align to a single bridge on a very small movement like the Miyota 82 series, it's just obnoxious. With this movement, I usually insert the screws for the main bridge and not tighten them down, just to keep it in place while I'm pushing the pivots into place.

When's the face reveal??

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Who knows who knows. Probably going to be the 1 million special hehe

BUY some good tools😛

@Berlintime030

Жыл бұрын

Haha slowly getting there! Thanks for the reminder though :)

I don’t watch videos where people use God’s name in vain.

@lizid5

4 ай бұрын

You just did

@Berlintime030

4 ай бұрын

Oh lord

@OscarOSullivan

4 ай бұрын

@@Berlintime030The 82xx series movements are great and far better than what most lower end mechanical watch buyers would have bought watches with