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@MrPronyra

Жыл бұрын

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It works, but there's some things you have to keep in mind: a) some flex cables are too stiff it seems, with brickling contacts when taking out which you only see under a microscope. Cost me one afternoon to find the issue. I wanted to check my 2nd IDE ZIF HDD from dead laptop before, but the problems immediately started. I had a 2nd flex cable from same laptop with defective screen, which works. Both flex cables are kinds different. The one which broke looks like an early prototype or self-made glued with different plastic parts on top. The one from 2nd laptop which worked looks way better with thin PCB plate on the top. b) the adapter for ZIF/LIF didn't work at 1st try. You need to add like 3 layers of Tesa film tape at the bottom side of your flex cable to make the ZIF socket hold it (bend up black part, put in cable + 3 layers of tape at bottom, bend down black part, it's holding now. c) you need to either glue or use some foam at the left part to hinder the PCB of the adapter to possibly shorten contacts. Also add some foam on top left part of the mSATA socket just under the plastic cover. This way it can't move and also the flex cable won't move and brickle. d) mSATA sadly get quite hot. I measure like 60 °C idle and up to 82 °C under write/read test with HDTune Pro with Transcend 256 GB mSATA. So expect battery runtime not being better than with HDD or maybe even less. I haven't tested it yet, as my battery is completely flat. As I ran Ubuntu 18.04 on it years ago, I saw like 5.5 watts idling with screen on lowest settings and WLAN on. This laptop's WLAN is pretty strong, btw. As Samsung mSATA are rare and/or cost like 3 times as much as Transcend, I bought the cheap one, but it seems to not have any powersave functions, so I guess it takes 1-1.5 amps 3.3 V all the time, so that's like 3-4 watts avg. I guess. The HDD's are rated at 0.5 amps 3.3 V, btw., running much cooler and efficient, but also way slower ofc. So this Transcend mSATA actually isn't that good. I thought about using it for an iPod Video optionally, but with that temps and high amps use, better not, lol. Transfer speed is like max. 50-66 MB/s (I think it's UDMA 66 IDE here, so that can't get faster, but even with USB 2.0 any SSD is faster than any avg. HDD in IOPS, latency and access times). The 80/100/120 GB IDE ZIF Toshiba HDDs had like 25 MB/s max. and very low 4k read/write ofc. 4k read/write of the Transcend mSATA I think is like 10-20 MB/s, which also is okay, don't expect wonders like 30+ MB/s 4k speeds from non Intel/Samsung/SanDisk/Lexar flash drives. Still faster than any HDD. The question is how long does it run w/o quitting. Make backups ofc. ;) I'll use Windows XP SP3 for retro purposes (offline ofc.), maybe DOS 6.22 or FreeDOS and Endeavour OS Xfce Linux I think. Let's see how it fits together with GRUB2 for Linux (make divided Windows partition with GPartEd and installing Windows 1st, then adding other partitions and install Linux and DOS afterwards). Xubuntu is too slow or you need to disable snapd at least. Win 8-11 are a bit slow on those low TDP devices, tho I used 8/8.1 for School on it. There's 2570p or different hardware for faster Windows usage. At least the crappy Win 10 semi-annual upgrades don't exist anymore, so it can't break by software upgrade with those not existing anymore, if you install Win 10 22H2. A 9 cell battery is good with this laptop, which at the same time is adding a bit space underneath, which supports the small fan. Sadly the optional docking station hinders the fan completely, that's a fail design. Maybe I open that one and check cables, drill a 3 cm hole into the docking station where the fan sits.

This adapter works on a MacBook Air 2009?

Сделал все то же на 2710p. В биосе диск вроде бы виден, но протестировать или потереть его нельзя. пишет нет такой возможности. При установке Виндовс 8.1 , 10 - система не видит винт. (( пробовал шлейф ставить другой стороной - все равно, диск не виден в биосе. Что делать?

Какой стороной шлейф вставлять в переходник???

Подскажите, пожалуйста, что делать если биос не видит диска? Все сделал как на видео. Переходник такой же как и по ссылке. Диск SSD Samsung 250гб

@sebastianebert4295

7 ай бұрын

I had the same. It actually were 2 errors in a row: My HP flex cable copper contacts brickled at 1st change. Even a 2nd IDE ZIF HDD couldn't be read. I wasted hours to find out and saw it under the microscope. Gladly I had a 2nd one from another 2510p with broken screen. This 2nd flex cable was of higher build quality. My 1st one actually looks like a prototype, glued with layers of 1 mm plastic parts instead of a plastic block and thin PCB on top which the 2nd one gladly had. The HP 2510p is known to sometimes not see devices in the F9 boot menu. But it didn't show up very often, too often. The 2nd error is that the ZIF flex cable was too loose with the mSATA adapter. I needed to add 3 layers of Tesa film underneath it. Now it fits, so the black piece of the ZIF socket holds the cable in place. Finally add some foam at the left side to hinder shortenings of the adapter with metal pieces of laptop. Then add some foam above top left mSATA socket to keep the PCB in place, right underneath the plastics cover. Otherwise it won't last long, have shortenings or the flex cable goes defective. Sadly my Transcend 256 GB mSATA runs pretty hot (60 °C idling, max. 82 °C when reading/writing with HDTune Pro to check the whole memory for possible errors). I dunno how good Samsung mSATA are, but all my Samsung EVO/QVO 2.5 " drives run at like 30-40 °C idling and even under load. But it costs like 3x as much and I don't do important stuff with this dated laptop nowadays.

Ноутбук HP Compaq 2510p адаптер работает. Перед установкой диска mSATA SSD в адаптер его необходимо " Активировать и оформатировать в NTFS " на другом компьютере. Адаптер не умеет Активировать и форматировать. Мой диск mSATA SSD 32Gb InnoDisk показал результаты 77Мб чтение и 25Мб запись. ( я сразу ставил новый не активированный и ноутбук его не видел)

@sebastianebert4295

7 ай бұрын

You don't need another PC. Just start Hiren's BootDVD 15.2 restored v1.1 by Proteus, Strelec Win 10 PE 2022 also runs perfectly fine off Ventoy USB stick or any Linux live with GPartEd included does the trick. It doesn't matter in which PC you format it ;) You meant the BIOS sees the drive or not, yeah. But any install CD or WinPE or Linux live will see it, if empty. My Transcend 256 GB mSATA is having like 50-66 MB max. speed. I think the connector is having UDMA 66? Under Linux it showed 70 MB/s I think or a bit higher using sudo hdparm -tT --direct /dev/sda or /dev/sdb, but it could be a mis-interpretation between MB/s and MiB/s. Sadly the Transcend mSATA runs very hot (60 °C idle, 82-83 °C maximum with HDTune Pro overwriting with zero and verify). I guess Samsung mSATA run much cooler, but also the adapter may need like 1-1.5 watt heating it up and the fan at the left side doesn't cool the HDD bay sadly. You could drill a 2 cm hole there, but I don't think it's worth it, as I did run a good USB cooler underneath and it didn't lower the mSATA temp.

Hello. I have an HP Compaq nc2400 note, with the same type of HD. Unfortunately this HD broke. I like him very much. I would like to know which adapter is which HD you used. I tried to see in the title of your video and in the content, but I don't understand your language. Please, could you give me that information and, if possible, where I can buy it. I thank you very much. Oscar

Can you show difference in transfer rate vs old hdd drive?

@sebastianebert4295

7 ай бұрын

old HDD max. 25 MB/s, very low 4k read/write speed, low IOPS, high latency in [ms], long access time. Even cheap mSATA is having like 50-66 MB/s transfer speed, 10-20 MB/s 4 k read/write speed, 0.1x ms access time, some 1,000 IOPS instead of like approx. 10? IOPS of slow HDD. Any slow SSD is faster even with USB 2.0. The max. speed is not everything, but IOPS, latency, access time is worth more, multiplying latency.

I tried doing this on my same Hp 2510p laptop. It didn’t work! Thinking that computer part defectively, I bought another connect adapter, but still doesn’t work. Do I need to update the bios? Do I need to change a setting?

@joseluisgarcia4677

4 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem. Could you get a solution?

@wbeimarc

4 жыл бұрын

@@joseluisgarcia4677 Hi, did you find the solution to your problem? I was planning to buy the parts but now I am not sure if that really works

@joseluisgarcia4677

4 жыл бұрын

@@wbeimarc Not yet, i've tested some different options with no lucky (msata 32,64,128 and 256gb, 2 different msata to zip and different connectors) and It seems that if you want it works you have to install a special modded bios and a special msata ssd. In my case, my hdd is working well, only i would like to increment size for install diferent os and i think i gonna use SanDisk Ultra Fit with 128gb ( It would be perfect if someone could give us more information).

@glewiss6696

3 жыл бұрын

@@joseluisgarcia4677 Any chance that you"ve got it to work now ? thanks

@pelimorfico

3 жыл бұрын

@@glewiss6696 At the end, i desisted. Working with modded bios take risk of bricking it and nobody assured me that it would work. And my case, my computer its working well, i preferred not to asume any risks. Maybe in the future if hdd crash. Sorry not to be more helpful maybe in other models with other bios it works. Good luck

Hi How-FixIT, congratulations for your channel and thanks for sharing your knowlegde with us :) I write you because i'm trying to install a msata disk to my hp 2510p but i', having some problems. I've tried to install a msata 128 gb and 240 gb but my laptop doesn't recognize it. I've checked connector and it's working well. What can i do to solve my problem? Should I try with other zif to msata board or i should try with a 64gb ssd? Thank you in advance.

@sebastianebert4295

7 ай бұрын

Check flex cable for broken copper lines under microscope. Mine broke at 1st change. Gladly I had a 2nd one. Then add some foam at left side to hinder shortenings. Then add some foam top left side of the mSATA socket under the plastics cover to hinder movement and wear of the flex cable. A 256 GB mSATA works fine here. Smaller mSATA SSD nowadays aren't really cheaper, that's why I didn't buy 128 GB now. But my Transcend mSATA runs very hot (idling 60+ °C, max. 82 °C under heavy read/write load with HDTune Pro test). My Samsung 2.5 " SATA all run at 30-40 °C, but I didn't but the expensive Samsung mSATA now, as I think it's not worth it nowadays compared to like HP 2750p and big cheaper Samsung 2.5 " SATA SSD. That's like 256 GB vs. 4 TB nowadays for the same price of Samsung mSATA vs. SATA 2.5 ". Another possibility is to use drivebay IDE to SATA adapter and normal cheap quality Samsung 2.5 " SSD. But then you also add like 1 watts for the transverter adapter and can't use the DVD burner in this laptop. I didn't test it, but maybe some Operation Systems might not boot off "optical".

@arthur88888888888888

5 ай бұрын

Hi. Mine came without the ribbon cable. Can i just use it some IDE to sata adapter? Thanks@@sebastianebert4295

HP Compaq 2510p Notebook PC adapter is working. Before installing the mSATA SSD into the adapter, it must be "Activate and format to NTFS" on another computer. The adapter does not know how to activate and format. My mSATA SSD 32Gb InnoDisk showed the results 77read/25write Mb. I am satisfied. (I immediately put a new one, not activated, and the laptop did not see it)

Thank you for this video. I have the 2710p with original Toshiba 80 GB ZIF hard drive. Is the boot up speed much faster?

@howfixit

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately no, because system bus of motherboard doesn't support sata 3, and mSATA SSD will work like ZIF HDD. But it will be more reliable than the ZIF HDD.

@njtexit8

5 жыл бұрын

Would you explain what you mean by more reliable? And do you mean that the mSATA SSD with mSATA-to-ZIF adapter will be as fast as a ZIF SSD? I cannot decide whether to buy mSATA SSD + mSATA-to-ZIF adapter or just buy the KingSpec 64 GB ZIF SSD. The price is about the same?

@howfixit

5 жыл бұрын

KingSpec 64GB ZIF SSD can be use only on this laptop, but mSata SSD you can instal in other laptops. I mean mSata SSD can will in many devices.

@njtexit8

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the link for the ZIF to mSATA adapter board. I bought mine on eBay from a seller in China. I also bought a brand new 64 GB Innodisk mSATA SSD on eBay. Laptop runs faster. I like it!

@ami6362

5 жыл бұрын

I have the same laptop and want to replace my hdd zif to ssd, so i could use only 64 gb msata with zif adapter? 128 gb will not work?

Это ты хочешь сказать что в мсата разъем впихнуть сата, то работать не будет?

Can I use msata with pcie mini

@howfixit

5 жыл бұрын

In this video I use msata pcie mini

Как сильно греется msataпри работе?

@joseluisgarcia4677

4 жыл бұрын

I'm trying it works but it seems board zif to msata its defective and bios doesn't recognize it. I've update bios and it doesn't help, it doesn't work. Zif to msata turns too hot, yes. Is it a problem? It is normal? Thank you.

А где взять щлейф на него?

@howfixit

5 жыл бұрын

В описании под видео есть ссылка где можно купить шлейф жесткого диска

@MrPronyra

Жыл бұрын

​@@howfixit ссылка устарела, можно прислать актуальную на текущий момент?

и где ссылка не переходник?

@howfixit

6 жыл бұрын

переходник ZIF to mSata: ali.pub/2dvgns

@kar1kam1

6 жыл бұрын

интересно, а этот переходник скоростные характеристики ссд режет, если да то как сильно

@howfixit

6 жыл бұрын

Хороший вопрос! Проверим и выгрузим тесты в ближайшее время.

@zeleneew

4 жыл бұрын

Что с тестами на скорость?

Компьютер не видит ссд

Погримушку создал без закрепления самого конектора

Samsung товар не доступен 😒😒😒😒

Why not put this ssd disk straight into one of free mini pci slots??

@MSteamCSM

Жыл бұрын

those ports may not have sata lines, only pci-e