Replacing Shower Valve Through The Hole

Sometimes you have to put your skills to the test. Replacing a shower valve through the hole of the tub/shower surround is one of those cases. We didn't want to disturb the wall behind the valve as it was wall papered and would be very tough, if not outright impossible to patch. Thankfully there was room in the wall and flex in the pipes to make this job relatively easy. Enjoy!
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  • @bombdawg5916
    @bombdawg5916 Жыл бұрын

    Thank God you cleaned it up and caulked at the very end...I was gettin' worried! The skill is in the installation...the workmanship is in the finish. Great job, young man! A pleasure to watch!

  • @johnchurchman5882
    @johnchurchman58826 ай бұрын

    I’m a Master Plumber from Louisville & I am totally impressed, total patience,I would have went thru the other side of wall w access panel but that was a professional job

  • @geraldalfano5581
    @geraldalfano55812 жыл бұрын

    Masterful job !! Not many young plumbers of the propress generation would even attempt it or even old plumbers for that matter. Congratulations. You are very nice young man and excellent plumber.

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I very much appreciate that!

  • @um8440

    @um8440

    Жыл бұрын

    If i were going to do that job i would charge double, and it would take me about 3hours to get that small hole done, one time i got to a jobsite and it was galvy pipe i was going to cut hole in the back drywall but i was too lazy i just tell him to call someone else, im not doing that today.

  • @benanderson7093
    @benanderson7093 Жыл бұрын

    From one plumber to another, excellent work sir. Your a great plumber.

  • @Chuck_Norris10
    @Chuck_Norris1010 ай бұрын

    If you’re ever doing another one of these old deltas, and the cap nut is stuck never force it or the tubes will break 10/10 times. Try tapping on the nut with two pairs of chanellocks on each side. Also when trying to take the nut off, always grab it by the very end where there is no knurling. When you grab it by the knurling it crushes it and makes it even tighter. If all else fails cut off the cap with a cheese saw and get a new cap, hope thats helps. Im also a plumber in CT and see these deltas on a regular basis

  • @Ron-oe7hg

    @Ron-oe7hg

    3 ай бұрын

    Using channel lock pliers was his first mistake. They squeeze the ring and lock it tighter to the valve. It's better to use a strap or pipe wrench.

  • @chazz4792
    @chazz479210 ай бұрын

    This whole video gave me anxiety 😂. Great work!

  • @patricktomscha7394
    @patricktomscha7394 Жыл бұрын

    Great workmanship! A tough job made to look simple. Hats off!

  • @PrinceHarry419
    @PrinceHarry419 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent work. I was very nervous at first cause I wasn’t sure how you’d do it. Fabulous

  • @Mike-ji8ez
    @Mike-ji8ez Жыл бұрын

    Incredible job sir!! You clearly have a great skill set. I was totally impressed and your skill, attention to detail and patience. I wish your company was nearby. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @victorthecarguy3126
    @victorthecarguy3126 Жыл бұрын

    Great to see how it's done. The old joint likely was due to lead rather than the antimony. Lead/tin is even easier to get a tight joint with less heat. I just cut out a tube into a street elbow in a tight space, it fell apart as I cut it, only 1/16 inch of the tube was in and it held leak tight for 30 years before it started to leak.

  • @philipsmiley6008
    @philipsmiley6008 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible job. This man is very talented

  • @JD987abc
    @JD987abc Жыл бұрын

    You continue to amaze me. Most plumbers would not attempt to do that through the valve hole. But you did. Very neat work. Impressed how you put a cloth down before starting. So many other KZread rough plumbers don’t care about things like that and generally let the homeowner do the cleaning up. I live in cape May nj. Wish you were closer. Joe.

  • @ns3v3n
    @ns3v3n Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. This is exactly what I’m going through with one of my bathroom but I’m not a plumber like this guy here so I’m going to get the Moen retrofit trim so I can cut the hole bigger in the front so I have more space so solder.

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    Smart! Using that faceplate will make your life much easier!

  • @jeidmann
    @jeidmann Жыл бұрын

    Gave me the confidence to tackle this myself!

  • @drumlover1687
    @drumlover1687 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent job 👏

  • @stonesauer5781
    @stonesauer57819 ай бұрын

    Excellent job in such a small tight space !!

  • @crystalkeara8868
    @crystalkeara88683 ай бұрын

    This job takes more patience than I’m willing to have

  • @youtubeplumbing
    @youtubeplumbing6 ай бұрын

    That was crazy insane good job

  • @floydalbright2129
    @floydalbright2129 Жыл бұрын

    I carry a dental mirror to inspect my solder joints where I can't see behind , try it . Very good job .

  • @fludrbywest3886
    @fludrbywest38862 ай бұрын

    Wow 😮 great job !! Beautifully executed 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @kailashbedi3404
    @kailashbedi3404 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @paulweston8184
    @paulweston8184Ай бұрын

    3:40 I have the same problem trying to get my ring to twist off. Thanks a fugging lot for editing out how you got it to budge. Big fricking help. Wtf guys.

  • @kociarz46
    @kociarz465 ай бұрын

    Young man that was such an awesome job!!!! A lot of plumbers should have so much patience as you my friend excellent job, your future is very bright !!!👍 I wish you were in my neighborhood I would hire you in a heartbeat!!!🤙

  • @tomdale1313
    @tomdale1313 Жыл бұрын

    great job...must have got burn some,tanks for sharing

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Some how I managed to get away burn free this time, although I did brush against a hot pipe once or twice!

  • @humbertosrperez
    @humbertosrperez Жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @AGoodHandyman
    @AGoodHandyman2 ай бұрын

    Nice job.

  • @ClassicAutoBrkrSvcs
    @ClassicAutoBrkrSvcs8 ай бұрын

    I have an old American standard valve that no new trim kits will fit, so need to replace the flash rough in valve. Wondering if the majority of plumbers I would call would even attempt this since I do have a closet wall behind it that could be cut into for easier access. I guess I should be looking for a trim kit that will allow them to cut a fairly large opening to increase the chances. Great work.

  • @dittoclown
    @dittoclown Жыл бұрын

    Got to use a strap wrench on delta retainer nuts. Pliers pinch. You need even pressure all the way around to remove.

  • @samuelllll8
    @samuelllll811 ай бұрын

    You are a master

  • @suavemang
    @suavemang Жыл бұрын

    You could have also used a torch on the bonnet nut and loosened it easier. Done it many times.

  • @mikeskidmore6275
    @mikeskidmore62752 ай бұрын

    That's exactly how far I got. Bought the springs, rubber seals, and the silicone grease then the metal dome was corroded and seized up on the faucet, wouldn't budge. I would have twisted all of the plumbing pipes into a pretzel before it would have broke loose.

  • @TheOne-gg7rc
    @TheOne-gg7rc11 ай бұрын

    Bruh, I’m not a plumber but I’m learning a few things about it. But, this job… I would have paid the customer to find another plumber to finish it. 😢😊 However, you did a remarkable job!

  • @khale7180
    @khale71802 ай бұрын

    I am watching this as my handyman is struggling even with a much bigger oval hole.

  • @patrickchen623
    @patrickchen623 Жыл бұрын

    Bro, you are a freaking pro, nice clean work! I hope the owners apricate your work. What vale brand do you prefer for quality and reliability?

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    The owner happened to have this one on hand so I installed it for them. Typically I recommend Moen, especially on well water.

  • @JessicaSimonson1976

    @JessicaSimonson1976

    Жыл бұрын

    My experience Moen tends to fail more in certain areas even with well water. In Midwest especially Wisconsin they corrode to crap.....making simple repairs hours long. The cartridge in delta is much easier to replace.

  • @martinwolfe8066
    @martinwolfe8066 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding 48:37

  • @jasonwilliams9453
    @jasonwilliams9453 Жыл бұрын

    I have the same one but can't find that same cartridge. Any idea where I can get it?

  • @suavemang
    @suavemang3 ай бұрын

    What torch tip do you use?

  • @Snedesk
    @Snedesk2 ай бұрын

    I didn't see, but did you need to clean up the new valve before soldering also. Just bought a new Moen from plumbing supplier and looks a bit nasty!?

  • @ajbontheroad283
    @ajbontheroad283 Жыл бұрын

    what was the valve you installed ... Delta? If so what model. Thanks

  • @HUFF-N-PUFF-2024
    @HUFF-N-PUFF-2024 Жыл бұрын

    Not an easy job your a pro! Curious what is the going price for something like that?

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    The owner supplied the valve. Labor plus the few parts I used ended up being just over $300

  • @valperiandri6055
    @valperiandri60558 ай бұрын

    Thanks for posting this video! You are the only one that I could find that even attempted to do this! Everyone else cuts a giant hole and puts a big, ugly chrome trim piece! I had 2 of these to do. One I could have opened the wall up behind it and one that butted up against the other fiberglass tub / shower so not an option. I didn't really want to use that big, ugly chrome piece to cover a big hole that would have needed to be cut. My valve was very similar to this one except no integrated shut off stops. I used a thin wall mount to make sure the valve was tight to the fiberglass. I spent close to 4 hours on each one. I don't see in the video what keeps the valve from pulling forward. Is it just the pipes holding it in place?

  • @Greg-cs9uj

    @Greg-cs9uj

    8 ай бұрын

    I have the same issue as one of your fixes, no access behind the wall because another tub shower insert. You said you used a thin wall mount to secure the valve to the fiberglass? What did you use as the mount? And how did you secure it to the fiberglass? There's no strapping on the valve, the shower or tub spout either. And there's a stud that was hacked up right behind the valve (likely done to set the valve back in the wall slightly). I want to add better bracing but it's such a small hole, with little ability to push the valve in/back because the stud.

  • @valperiandri6055

    @valperiandri6055

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Greg-cs9uj ​@Greg-cs9uj Yes, I used a Delta Thin Wall mount kit. It's 2 pieces of thin plastic that sandwich the fiberglass. They screw to the plaster guard (plastic box ) provided with the Delta valve. I sweated all of the copper tubing and pressure tested for leaks. I then snapped the plaster guard on followed by one of the 2 plastic pieces behind the fiberglass and one in front. They secure with 4 screws total. The trim then goes on top of that. The Delta spout came with a brass part that sweats to the copper. You then screw the spout onto that. It wouldn't seem like that is sturdy but it is. I wouldn't try to stand on the spout though! 😂 Good luck with your project!

  • @FairSkys
    @FairSkys Жыл бұрын

    is this how all valves would look like? Ive never replaced one before and im scared to order these parts from amazon that cost like 150$ just for it not to work in my shower

  • @allenh5389
    @allenh53894 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @user-hc7nh6ti9m
    @user-hc7nh6ti9m3 ай бұрын

    The valve body inlets were outside threaded, so I would have assumed I needed to screw on a "screw-to-sweat" adaptor. I had no idea you could just sweat a 1/2" pipe right into those inlets. But I'm not a plumber. It that common/normal? Avoiding the screw-on adapter sure saves worry about leaking at the threads!

  • @joepaullawncare7222

    @joepaullawncare7222

    28 күн бұрын

    yes completely normal.

  • @Its_about_that_time
    @Its_about_that_time3 ай бұрын

    What is a fair price to pay for something like this

  • @johng9562
    @johng9562 Жыл бұрын

    the valve looked unsupported (not screwed down to a cross-member stud, which SHOULD be there) which means the valve will always feel loose when activated, and is also prone to failing over time. The right way to do this is to open up the other side of the wall, install the cross-member, then patch the drywall. Really, the cross-member should have already been there, but when in isn't one MUST be installed.

  • @tobycurtis6030

    @tobycurtis6030

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking 🤔....he was probably trying to save the homeowners money.

  • @thunderbird233

    @thunderbird233

    Жыл бұрын

    AGREED!

  • @davo912

    @davo912

    11 ай бұрын

    are you serious? The escutcheon plate will hold it in place mr plumber

  • @FuselierLumbler-gt6uk

    @FuselierLumbler-gt6uk

    9 ай бұрын

    Just superglue

  • @FuselierLumbler-gt6uk

    @FuselierLumbler-gt6uk

    9 ай бұрын

    Haa haa

  • @denniscicak3854
    @denniscicak38544 ай бұрын

    Some heat and some patience might have saved twisting the feed pipes and been a faster and less expensive job

  • @kenstark7335
    @kenstark7335 Жыл бұрын

    Why and what do you use to clean the joint just after sweating the joints

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    I wipe the joint down with flux. It serves three purposes, firstly to provide a little extra flux in the event some burned away and it pushes the solder around to help seal up any imperfections. Secondly it is a means to strike off any excess solder so that you don't end up with a "grape" or lump of solder. Thirdly it cleans off oxides and decolorization of the copper from the heating process. Then once the solder has solidified, but while its still hot, I wipe the joint with a rag to clean the flux off and prevent rapid oxidation of the copper.

  • @kenstark7335

    @kenstark7335

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GodwinAndSons Thanks for your reply. You are a craftsman indeed. I am a jack of all trades. My profession is bridge building. It is nice to see other craftsmen who take their profession to heart.

  • @mjonayed007
    @mjonayed007 Жыл бұрын

    Hello sir Is there any chance to leak in future if I do this procedure trough the hole?

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    if it doesn't leak within the first little while of pressurization then its no more likely to leak than any other sweat fitting.

  • @thrashlatem
    @thrashlatem6 ай бұрын

    Haha your gonna have a bunch of plumbers swearing at you because their customers saw this and think swapping a valve from the front like that is easy 🤣 and you didn't even use a Reno plate! great job man !!! 👏👏

  • @Red_Twizzler

    @Red_Twizzler

    5 ай бұрын

    Bad installation. Theres no backing and no backing plate. That valve is NOT secure. Its loose. You could pull it out. Garbage plumber. I could’ve repaired the original without issue. This guy is a scammer

  • @Red_Twizzler

    @Red_Twizzler

    5 ай бұрын

    And he broke the old valve like a newbie homeowner

  • @jean-francoisleger7688
    @jean-francoisleger7688 Жыл бұрын

    😀

  • @jean-francoisleger7688

    @jean-francoisleger7688

    Жыл бұрын

    Super Job

  • @mrgyallo
    @mrgyallo Жыл бұрын

    Impressive... What's the price on a job like this?

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    The new valve was supplied by the owner, so for the few parts and labor it was just over $300. Prices have gone up so as of now it would be just over $350.

  • @mrgyallo

    @mrgyallo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GodwinAndSons I see. I spoke to a plumber and he told me it would run me about $550 to do that same job...

  • @pkfan5112
    @pkfan5112 Жыл бұрын

    Use WD40 first

  • @carlcapello9956
    @carlcapello9956 Жыл бұрын

    I thought once the shower valve is installed, its installed for life and you need only to replace the cartridge when it doesn't work properly. So, why is this plumber replacing the shower valve?

  • @GodwinAndSons

    @GodwinAndSons

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried replacing the cartridge at the beginning, but the bonnet nut was seized and twisted the valve body, so at the point replacement was the only option.

  • @frankqroosma2372

    @frankqroosma2372

    Жыл бұрын

    I need to replace mine because it's not pressure balanced. My wife doesn't like when she's in the shower and someone uses the sink in the kitchen and she gets scalded.

  • @sni1144

    @sni1144

    Жыл бұрын

    Same thing happened to mine. Planned on replacing the cartridge but the threads on the collar holding the cartridge were seized. The 3 copper tubes on the back are pretty flimsy, and twisted when I tried to break it loose. Even with a second pair of pliers holding the valve body. This was some fine work, and a great value at $300.

  • @Jw-iu2el

    @Jw-iu2el

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sni1144 next time take a hacksaw blade to the bonnet nut. Just take your time with it. Ive seen a few people twist the tubes on those older deltas

  • @NathanBarnes-in1ug
    @NathanBarnes-in1ug9 ай бұрын

    How much would you charge for doing two of these, in my case one is a shower and the other is a tub. Both would be done through the hole? I’m a handyman just trying to get a rough estimate on what to charge. Just for labor?

  • @bidguy5150
    @bidguy51508 ай бұрын

    You destroyed that fixture by applying too much torque. If it was that stuck, you should have used a hack saw to cut the ring off, thereby saving the fixture. Several other people have demonstrated that procedure in other videos here.

  • @jackpine4347

    @jackpine4347

    6 ай бұрын

    It was being replaced - he cut it to pieces. There was no "saving the fixture".

  • @bidguy5150

    @bidguy5150

    6 ай бұрын

    Wrong. He stated right at the beginning that there was a leak and he was hoping to just replace "internals" He did not want to replace the whole valve assembly initially, but then had to because he destroyed it. @@jackpine4347

  • @ItsMe-zn3yd

    @ItsMe-zn3yd

    6 ай бұрын

    Wrong. He stated right at the beginning that there was a leak and he was hoping to just replace "internals" He did not want to replace the whole valve initially.@@jackpine4347

  • @ideaguyinks
    @ideaguyinks11 ай бұрын

    You mumbled through the entire video. I think you will get more views if you do better on your audio.

  • @susano5850

    @susano5850

    8 ай бұрын

    True 19:46

  • @joepaullawncare7222

    @joepaullawncare7222

    28 күн бұрын

    ok karen

  • @waldemarbehrendt5728
    @waldemarbehrendt5728 Жыл бұрын

    ten system jest tak debilny że az głowa boli W europie myśla i mają to rozwiązanie logiczne i praktyczne