I love how the show gets the home owners involved in working on the upgrades!

swear they have done this type of video multiple times already on the TOH channel. but it's still nice to have a refresher course once in a while.

@monkeyoperator1360

9 ай бұрын

i think they have been slightly different each time

Man, I wish I had someone like Richard in my life 😄 SO. MANY. HOME. PROJECTS.

I will watch anything with Rich Trethewy! He makes plumbing fun!

kindness and decency go a long way for a contractor. i bet he could charge higher prices and the homeowner would still leave him 5 star reviews.

One project I did 75 moen remodel kits. Learned a lot at that time!

It's amazing to me after the comment about keeping so much of the original detail in the house that the chosen repair here - which was not the only option - was to do exactly the opposite of that. This is a good fix for a lot of folks... but not for these folks.

@Vincerama

3 ай бұрын

Three handle showers are illegal now in many states, due to the scald danger. Repairing it would have required pulling the stems and either somehow rebuilding them (new washers, if you can find or make some to fit) or replacing them (if you can find replacement parts of that ancient valve system). However, due to the mud wall encasing the valves, it's very hard to remove the stems. My house, build in 1938 has a similar three handled shower, but worse ... it still has galvanzed pipes. The house in the video has had a re-pipe done to swap in copper, and that's probably why there is an access panel there ... from whoever did the repipe before, but they kept the original valves/handles and now they have gone bad. I think the homeowner wanted the original tiles, not necessarily the old handles. And of course "This Old House" wouldn't make the swap if the homeowner didn't agree to it. The new shower valve is safer and much much easier to repair in the future.

As always very nice work Richard 👍🏽

Just I love all your videos. I solve few problems in my job just watching a video from you. Thanks a lot

I would vote for a solution that didn't require cutting such a large hole.

@williammentink

9 ай бұрын

I'm right there with you. It looked to me that the hole would need to be the size of the valve plus some clearance. It pained me to see the size of it.

@nick4leader

9 ай бұрын

Yeah,I have no idea why the hole needs to be so big

@hitdamatazaza5744

9 ай бұрын

@@nick4leaderit need to be that big cause it got to cover the holes on side the trim alone won’t cover those holes

@dancollins4372

9 ай бұрын

yeah, looks waaay too big, given they had access panel.

@Jaredshapiro1

9 ай бұрын

@@dancollins4372I think it’s just easier. They needed the repair plate to cover the old 3 valve holes, so why make a smaller access hole when the biggest one possible will also work. It also ensures he won’t need to cut more if the original was too conservative.

same situation here but there be no rear access, it was a challenge

I have a clinker brick house too!! Love it!

Thanks for the video.

Perfectly comfortable access space behind the wall, which makes for a great video, but never happens in real life.

Dang I wish it was that easy to access behind old houses like those in Texas

that looked really nice

No gasket no caulking

@lukpac

9 ай бұрын

The cover plate has a built-in gasket.

Thanks

Hello Very Good Work. Gave you thump up and A 100% feed back for you... From Robert 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

I would have put a support board to support the valve

Wth was it necessary to punch a hole that big????

@JacobConkin

9 ай бұрын

Yes. The biggest the better

@sterlingodeaghaidh5086

9 ай бұрын

Manufacturer recommendations, best guess is this is meant to go in a shower that doesnt have an access, so you have to cut a hole big enough to remove the valve anyway, this just allows you to cut just enough to do the job without having to redo tile.

@Vincerama

3 ай бұрын

@@sterlingodeaghaidh5086 exaclty. The access panel was lucky. The manufacturer of the escutcheon just provided a template for the giant hole so that you could access the pipes more easily from the front. From the front, the we can see from the front that access to the pipes is much easier. However, if he didn't have that access plate, removing the old plumbing would have been a lot harder

Oh man.. could use some of that at my place.

Always a solution! Blessings 💕🤗

( Was an apartment maintenance for 4 years in south Florida ) 20 units etc . . The showers had NO access panel AND the water in south Florida is so hard it EATS all the plumbing starting with all rubber gaskets - ( fossilizing them ) and at junctions and other random places it eats cooper piping from the inside ( galvanic corrosion ) and springs a leak inside the walls etc . . Also I had valves that were literally fossilized in place and no amount of stem pulling - heat - ( mapp gas ) - kinetics ( banging on them ) would remove the valves. So I had to break open the walls on the other side remove the entire assemblies - sweat new ones in - and then drywall and paint. It was bedroom walls. HARD WATER DESTROYS older piped plumbing.

@workingshlub8861

9 ай бұрын

20 years apartment tech here...i hear you on the hard water....ive worked in places where toilet flappers would last maybye 6 months...

does the cap need to be sealed with silicone?

I've been watching TOH since the 90's. I can't think of another show I have watched for so long. ATOH came after, so ... :-) What I'd love to know is how to access a leak you can't get to.

No waterproofing on the edge of the face plate?

I was just thinking if the homeowner didn't shut the water of properly, richard would have a big surprise 🤣🤣

@Vincerama

3 ай бұрын

Nah, even with the water shut off, you have to open up a faucet (most likely the one he's standing at ... the tub faucet!) to let the water out. They just didn't show it.

Title: How To Repair a Leaking Shower Valve. Richard: Rips it all out and replaces it.........

I'm shocked! Could this situation not have been fixed using some other method so that the original beautiful fixtures and tiles could have been preserved??? Surely, there must have been a better solution. Actually, watching this video was heartbreaking.

@kevinadamski224

9 ай бұрын

You can also replace the three handle shower valve with another three handle valve but most place's by code you have to have a "pressure balancing valve" shower valve.

@kylefogle6022

9 ай бұрын

If you wanted to preserve the tile you could have installed a remote pressure balance valve upstream and repaired or replaced the existing valve. Kind of bazaar to see you chose not to considering the available access.

@valenzaplumbing

9 ай бұрын

Three handle valves are garbage and ancient in their lack of tech. He could have removed the washer/stem and replaced them with ceramic cartridges. But it’s a lot of money to spend on something that’s 80 years old.

Another good solution and video. I love this show and have done since a kid, but whats with the music on American shows? They are fitting a shower it's not a drama!

That's the reason I hire a pro when needed. I know my limits.

I’m curious why 1) no shut off valves were added when the fixture was removed making repairs easier in the future and 2) why Richard used sweat fittings rather than crimp. Great video, regardless! We need this in an old shower.

@sterlingodeaghaidh5086

9 ай бұрын

Solder fittings are still the best option for longevity, as for the reason no shutoff valves are installed, its just due to labor, its extra labor and more materials to add for no other benefit other than isolating a single point that doesnt need frequent changing unlike a sink faucet or something else.

@workingshlub8861

9 ай бұрын

dedicated shutoffs are not required for shower faucets...

@GalacticTradingPost

9 ай бұрын

@@sterlingodeaghaidh5086 also rats seem to be attracted to the softer plastics in the pex tubing that you guys are talking about.

Did the new hole really need to be that big?

Grinder works

I don’t need a pressure shower i have pumped water and i can run every sink and flush the toilet and pressure stays the same

I must of missed something, why was such a big hole necessary?

Richard from (TOH) know ur professional plummer & etc. but 8::26 u going trust heat torch instead of caulking or fasteners around gaski.

*It's never about the fireplace,* lol

you have to put those symmons valves spindles in a certain way or they will bind up....

Rember professional plumbers have to follow the codes and laws of the state and area they operate in. Which may require that pressure balance valve be installed. Homeowners, can replace like for like, but they accept the, and have to do the work themselves

I have same shower valves. I just replaced them with same valves. Sure, its hot on a flush, but that is the nostalgia. Still having this as an option to replace and update the plumbing... just curious why Richard didn't go proplex fitting sans soldering?

@dgrblue4162

9 ай бұрын

Licensed plumbers may not be able to just fix the leaky valve without giving the homeowner an anti-scald. They have rules to follow. Also, the plumber doesn't want to be sued.

@slicktmi

5 ай бұрын

Cost probrably or didn't have a pro press the amount of pro press fittings would cost as much as that valve not worth it imo.

Armchair criticizing...I would stabilize that handle with a piece of wood considering how many times your going to use it, then that beautiful soldiering will last forever! :)

This isn't repairing a leaking valve, this is replacing a valve. And, as an added convenience, has a huge access panel already in place. How does one go about actually repairing a valve, without changing the tile, where an access panel does not previously exist?

@herbieherbie-kj1es

Ай бұрын

I'm thinking of cutting an access panel in the bedroom closet for the same job.

❤️

Why plumbers never caulk around these plates??

@traktion9

9 ай бұрын

The new ones come with their own water proof gasket for a cleaner look.

@moemanncann895

9 ай бұрын

​@@traktion9 That view through the access panel showed that the foam gasket didn't seal properly against the tile, hole was made too big. I would put a nice thin bead of bathroom silicone around the plate in front to make sure

Recently, our 18 story hirise was completely re plumbed. All the old pipes were replaced with Pex pipes, no soldering. Just an expander tool and slip fitting, a minute later, the pex contracts onto the fitting, and it's done. The crew of dry wallers and painters followed - most excellent results. 👍 Supposed to last 30 - 50 years. *** I mentioned this because it is very easy to work with, no soldering skills required.

@williammentink

9 ай бұрын

That house is nearing a hundred years old, one would think that the plumbing is that old as well.

@JimDean002

9 ай бұрын

Expansion pex fittings are starting to show some issues with the expansions splitting after several years. Apparently they don't have quite enough elasticity to maintain that much of an expanded profile without eventually giving away. It's not common but it's definitely a thing that's happening. Sadly the only thing that still holds true as the best one going is plain old copper

@MrJdebest

9 ай бұрын

@@JimDean002 Yah, the only thing forever is the Earth 🌎 and sky. !

@terryhunt691

9 ай бұрын

Wrong title. This is a great video if you want to switch fixtures, not repair existing fixtures.

Richard you know good and well that hole didnt have to be that big

If you were interested in preserving the tile, as i thought the homeowner was, you could have installed a remote pressure balance valve upstream of the old valve. That would have allowed the existing valve to be repaired or replaced with something identical, and satisfy any plumbiing code. Given all the acces available, its difficult to understand why you didn't go that route. Those remodel plates are hideous.

Anyone else notice the covered electrical box near the floor. Im surprised they didn't address that

Amazing how they took out character items for boring modern attachments..you can tell he wanted to keep those tub knobs.

i can watch tommy all day

Hey guys my outside facet is leaking can you help me?/

@peoplethesedaysberetarded

9 ай бұрын

I’d be careful in asking this. Given what we just saw, they’d blow out your exterior wall completely to do that work.

Richard, buddy, you've never heard of autocuts?

steven lavimoniere would approve.

@Kevin-mp5of

7 ай бұрын

Of course, one hack, approving another hack’s work…

So basically the answer is a bigger plate/hole, and a big enough rear access 😂 tbh with how much rear access they had, the huge hole was unnecessary

@Kevin-mp5of

7 ай бұрын

Totally unnecessary, but typical for these hacks…

Now he needs to put some caulk around the plate and fixtures ..

@lukpac

9 ай бұрын

No, it has a built-in gasket.

Looks like “original” tile from the 70s

no need for that whole to be that big unless there wasnt a access door

Beautiful copper work by Richard but what an ugly flimsy front end with a completely unnecessary and unsupported giant hole (there are good quality three stem controls) . Wait till the water starts to work its' way behind the plate.

The real reason to keep the original tile and other things is because it's cheaper.

“We love all the original details” yet put in a hideous remodel plate.

Dude has 1972 shower valves but pro-press sutoffs on new copper in the basement. Not staged at all.

@hitdamatazaza5744

9 ай бұрын

Lol not to mention empty closet

"How To Repair a Leaking Shower Valve" Repair? That was more like how to replace a leaking shower valve. I really don't care for the valve design in this particular valve.

Sad … the three valve is part of that original character

@invisiblerevolution

9 ай бұрын

I know right!!!!!!! 😫😫😫😫

Dude really loves his 50 year old subway tile...at some point it's worth remodeling the bathroom, friends.

@akoznasovajusername

9 ай бұрын

Why? There's nothing broken and it's completely functional bathroom.

@invisiblerevolution

9 ай бұрын

So if you had a 57" Chevy.... you'd sell it for a Tesla, because the 1950's was years ago!

@DM7817

9 ай бұрын

@@invisiblerevolution what a bad analogy

@invisiblerevolution

9 ай бұрын

@@DM7817 Nope!

I dont like the solution he picked for this. He damaged the old tile more that needed to be replaced a few o rings and seat.

@Kevin-mp5of

7 ай бұрын

I agree, but then it wouldn’t make for much of a show…

Wow horrible solution.....

That’s ugly

You damaged the tiles , so the idea it was do not touch the tiles

Somebody tell Richard the mask doesn't work unless both straps are on his head.