Replace lead-acid battery with Lithium

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Can we replace the lead-acid battery in the Omni rechargeable light with a lithium-ion 18650 or lithium-polymer battery?
Although the existing lead-acid battery is charged to a similar voltage as lithium batteries, we cannot simply swap the battery and hope for the best.
We need to use a special charge board which is designed for charging lithium batteries. For example one which uses the TP4056 chip.
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  • @SanHydronoid
    @SanHydronoid4 жыл бұрын

    You showed what to do and what not to add well. Still a success haha

  • @The4Crawler
    @The4Crawler6 жыл бұрын

    The TP4056 should work fine with the LiPo batttery, they charge to 4.2v. Default charge current is 1 amp, you can adjust that by adding a different resistor. The TP4056 chip is a bit heat sensitive, likely the hot glue did it in.

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okay cool, that's what I thought when I read through the spec sheet but I wasn't 100% sure because I couldn't find many people talking about charging lithium polymer batteries with the TP4056. I guess the heat sensitivity is why so many places use that cold caulk instead of hot glue.

  • @Hackvlog
    @Hackvlog6 жыл бұрын

    Nice idea and hack, even though it ended up failing.

  • @serpentpigeon9108
    @serpentpigeon91082 жыл бұрын

    I have that one. Atleast I knew we need that board before converting to lithium. Thanks!

  • @DarkLinkAD
    @DarkLinkAD6 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any numbers on that SLA battery?? Im very curious about it.

  • @ChibiKeruchan
    @ChibiKeruchan2 ай бұрын

    I think it would work just fine if you just directly replace the lead acid with lithium 18650. if you are not sure just purchase NCR18650B with chip embed already on the negative bottom plate.

  • @rtec6106
    @rtec61066 жыл бұрын

    Its ok bro. Im looking forward to the next video and I hope the Lithium battery will be successful..

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @danielscheive7619
    @danielscheive76197 ай бұрын

    You should rip that battery management off the top of the battery and just let the one on the board do the job. Also I've noticed those boards have no reverse voltage protection it's easy to blow one if leads get reversed even for a second.

  • @topgun2249
    @topgun22493 жыл бұрын

    Did you know that so many youtubers venturing on electronics who don't really know exactly what they're doing end up indirectly burning other people's houses?

  • @conandrum74
    @conandrum746 жыл бұрын

    I noticed also when I was playing around with LED strips that using hot glue causes shorts or something (maybe this only happens while it is still hot)... . Terrible isn't it )))

  • @arielelijah1282
    @arielelijah1282 Жыл бұрын

    Does it needs BMS for the battery?

  • @sksdy9444
    @sksdy94445 жыл бұрын

    is hot glue conductive ?? , i use a clear nail polish to make a blutooth audio module water resistant, that was teriible... most switches on the board stoped working and led also stoped working ... board is working But 😥😥

  • @zodiacfml
    @zodiacfml6 жыл бұрын

    What is the charging system for those all old mobile phones (non-USB)? Does it require a charge controller or BMS?

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think even the oldies are still lithium-ion based. They may have used barrel jacks but the internal charge boards are essentially the same as what you find in modern phones. Although of course they used to charge much slower :P

  • @NSoupFog
    @NSoupFog6 жыл бұрын

    Always interesting, what if you did a video on your all-time favorite gadget, mine would be my trusty Iphone4 from 2009, still in service, newer even changed the battery, i always tried charged from less than 10% all the way up to 100% think that`s the trick on those.

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh nice! I struggle to keep my phones for that long because I always drop them. But this time I invested in a decent OtterBox case to protect the phone. I'm not sure what my favorite gadget would be. perhaps it would be the rechargeable USB fan because they're just so useful in a hot country. Otherwise it's whatever phone I'm currently using :P

  • @NSoupFog

    @NSoupFog

    6 жыл бұрын

    hehe, in my area a recharged heated pair of socks would be awesome :)

  • @renebea9
    @renebea910 ай бұрын

    can you use that old board instead of that tp4056 module?

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    10 ай бұрын

    I doubt it. Because it's designed for a lead acid battery. Maybe it would be okay if the lipo cell that you install has a protection board built in. Although personally I'd recommend replacing the board. Or even better, just don't buy this light in the first place. There's so many alternatives that you can buy online, that come with lithium batteries.

  • @diymaster101
    @diymaster101 Жыл бұрын

    Hi sir I need one of those 4v battery could you give a link for the product? Thank so much 🙂

  • @thefakebrit6378
    @thefakebrit63786 жыл бұрын

    Where can you buy a charge board like that and an 18650 cell?

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    I bought them on eBay, 5 for $1 or $2. You can find them locally on OLX and Shopee but the prices are often ridiculously high. As for the 18650 cell, I removed it from an old powerbank but you can get them on Lazada, Shopee, OLX, CDRKING - pretty much everywhere. Of course there's a LOT of fake 18650s being sold, so don't believe the advertised capacity.

  • @yveslyndelblase
    @yveslyndelblase6 жыл бұрын

    where can I buy a TP4056 Chip/Board?

  • @xploricious6669

    @xploricious6669

    3 жыл бұрын

    AliExpress

  • @dream0darkness013
    @dream0darkness0136 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get the charge board? On another note where do you buy those electronics you have? Having a hard time finding retailers here in the Philippines

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    The charge board came from eBay. I bought 5 of them for $1 or $2. They were super cheap. Unfortunately I already used them in other projects. Whenever a product breaks, I save the battery for future projects. Which electronics are you asking about?

  • @dream0darkness013

    @dream0darkness013

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just thought you bought them from a retailer here.

  • @raffyvxp
    @raffyvxp6 жыл бұрын

    Bought this lamp yesterday and its really cheap, ill try modding this to make it last forever hehe.

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Did you buy the exact same one? or one of the larger versions? What's your plan with it? :)

  • @MZ72
    @MZ726 жыл бұрын

    I also bought one of this. After the power run out and try charging via usb... it doesn't work anymore not unless the cable is still connected it lights up...

  • @sibat777
    @sibat7776 жыл бұрын

    Can you get those 18650 cells with a built in micro usb charge connector in philippines I believe they have a charge controller in a round circuit board at one end of the barrel

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Sibat 777 I've never seen them being sold here but I know lumintop make one so I could probably get one for review.

  • @kitecattestecke2303

    @kitecattestecke2303

    4 жыл бұрын

    Usually the Protektion for the cell is missing, you can moverdraw or undervolt them.. This PCB is safer

  • @davidjesse8689
    @davidjesse86896 жыл бұрын

    I think you should put up a new video on why you are annoyed with lead-acid batteries over lithium.

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I guess I could. I gave an explanation in my previous video. For anyone reading this comment and wondering what my concern is, let me explain. *Short Version:* Lead acid batteries charge slower and have a much shorter life than Lithium-ion or Lithium-Polymer batteries. *Long version:* Under perfect conditions, lead acid batteries can last a few years. The high ambient temperatures of the Philippines is already a negative towards the life of a lead-acid battery. The next issue is with how this light discharges the battery to such a low voltage; this greatly reduces the life of the battery. So we thought we're getting a fast charging, long life, lithium battery but what we actually got was a slow charging lead-acid battery that will probably be barely usable within a month if you use it every day. Aside from the difference between lead-acid and lithium batteries, these small generic 4V lead-acid batteries are notorious for being low quality.

  • @prads34

    @prads34

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gadget Addict yes the 4v lead acid ones r widely used in Chinese products from emergency lights to mosquito zapper(here in india).hardly last 3 months very unreliable

  • @adriansy4237
    @adriansy42376 жыл бұрын

    how about the CDR-KING P99 power bank PCB

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not exactly sure what your question is? But a P99 powerbank from cdrking and a P20-P50 USB light would be a good alternative to this Omni light.

  • @ianhaylock7409

    @ianhaylock7409

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think he means take the charge controller out of the CDR-King power bank.

  • @ianhaylock7409
    @ianhaylock74096 жыл бұрын

    Could have run wires from the original usb connector to the one on the new charge controller, then you don't have to dremel the case.

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Ian Haylock i thought about that but id also have to destroy the PCB traces going from that input to the existing charge circuitry otherwise it would conflict with the new charge PCB we installed.

  • @vincentnavea6999
    @vincentnavea69996 жыл бұрын

    Can you modify a firefly emergency light with fan to a lithium ion battery? Pls make a video with parts. Tnx

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'll try make it happen. I would like to do it! It might be a little more complex because we need a higher voltage. But where there's a will, there's a way :)

  • @eazerpaul6886
    @eazerpaul68863 жыл бұрын

    I modified and replaced my omni led lead acid to 2x 18650 (3000mAh each), total of 6000mAh. And it gave me around 40hours of use instead of 3-7 hours on lead acid🤣🤣

  • @eazerpaul6886

    @eazerpaul6886

    3 жыл бұрын

    But takes 10-12 hours to charge on 5v 1a.

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice! With a runtime of 40 hours, I guess it doesn't matter if it takes a bit long to recharge.

  • @tomrobertson3236
    @tomrobertson32366 жыл бұрын

    lithium batteries are all the same for bms. constant current, constant voltage just top voltage can change and bottom voltage

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great, thanks :)

  • @thesmashtvnetwork
    @thesmashtvnetwork6 жыл бұрын

    no you can use epoxy to do it no need to solder it

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well the soldering was easy anyway, it only took a few seconds. But yeah I guess some kind of epoxy would have been safer than a hot glue. I was just trying to use what I had laying around :)

  • @sharkus3329
    @sharkus33296 жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @tanhockjun
    @tanhockjun6 жыл бұрын

    It's a good try :)

  • @hippowpowtamos8848
    @hippowpowtamos88486 жыл бұрын

    dont use hot glue on 18650 charger...cuz... if youre charging... it gets hot. hot glue will melt.. try mighty bond, bulldog, or epoxy..

  • @rderyk
    @rderyk6 жыл бұрын

    ........i suck in soldering......always end up looking messy......... :[

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    Having a good soldering iron and clean tip can make a huge difference. And avoid using lead-free solder.

  • @johnm2012

    @johnm2012

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gadget Addict "...and avoid using lead-free solder." Lol. So true though!

  • @vgamesx1

    @vgamesx1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Practice makes perfect, but yeah a decent iron is basically a requirement to get good results, go on ebay and grab a few kits to practice on.

  • @ianhaylock7409

    @ianhaylock7409

    6 жыл бұрын

    And don't forget to use flux, makes soldering so much easier.

  • @jsaudio7428
    @jsaudio74286 жыл бұрын

    nice i knew it haha

  • @MrPopoy67
    @MrPopoy676 жыл бұрын

    Epic fail xD

  • @gregoryarizala977
    @gregoryarizala9776 жыл бұрын

    Actually its dangerous to put a lithium polimer battery it can blow up even you put a safety circuit

  • @GadgetAddict

    @GadgetAddict

    6 жыл бұрын

    And an Asteroid could hit the earth and wipe us all out. Pretty much every cellphone in the world is using a lithium polymer battery.

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