Buy an inexpensive set of monitor adjustment tools here: amzn.to/2u39J1M

I remember a time when the sounds of Asteroids was prominent at the roller rank, pool halls, arcades, and the bowling alley. Just 25¢ per game was all you needed. Great repair on a old classic!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Candid Deercam we appreciate you watching! Times sure change, don't they?

@charlesthomes9059

8 ай бұрын

I used to play this game everyday. One day, i started a game Feb 28th to March 1st. I cruised for ships, took a few b-room breaks, the pizza guy next door was feeding me. I played for 12 hours, at a score of 6,319,110. Got drove home by police. I closed the arcade. The newspaper covered me but i missed school the next day. I got detention. Haha. When my school asked me why i missed school, i told them i was setting records.

@charlesthomes9059

8 ай бұрын

I played 12 hours, 34 minutes and 37 seconds straight on one quarter!

@charlesthomes9059

8 ай бұрын

I was 16

@charlesthomes9059

8 ай бұрын

Ppl think i played 3 days straight due to the date. Haha

A friend of our family had an Asteroids in their basement back in the 80s so I would love when we would visit so I could just play the whole time we were there. What a treat at the time not to have to drain quarters from my pockets. Would love to have one now.

@LyonsArcade

2 жыл бұрын

It's a great game! Thank you for watching Guy!

That vector is just so satisfying to watch, especially when you press the fire button, And the pellet flying.

Beautiful machine and great video! It's great to watch these arcade games get restored and brought back to life.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Jacob, we'll see you on the next video!

I still enjoy the overview and gameplay videos, but I'm really glad that you've increased the amount of these repair videos that you do, both video and pinball. It's fascinating to watch you sleuth through the possible causes until you arrive at the faulty part and I especially like that you go through the schematics and explain what should be doing what and why. Thanks for these.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

No problem Doug, they're a lot harder to film but we're trying to do more of them :)

thank you joe for the final repair video on asteroids,which i have always loved,its pure simplicity,great sounds and addictive game play....its lovely to see it back up n running again and lookin great !! well done guys !! x the saskia and hope arcade lovers x

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hope, we appreciate you gals watching!

Amazing troubleshooting job, I like your work very much. Congratulations on restoring this classic jewel!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words Joao, we appreciate you watching!

Great video series on Asteroids repair/restore. Thanks so much for making it!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks purpleibby we're glad you liked it :)

What an awesome serie of reparing a totaly wreck. This was very educational. Thanks.

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it MrVectrex, see you on the next one!

Great video! I really appreciate you taking the time to explain all these things. I just picked up a battlezone and am pretty new to vectors. This helps big time!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Very cool Chris, hope you get it going soon! Asteroids is very, very similar in design.

I spend a lot of my time watching your repair videos :) it's crazy to think of these old arcade cabinets had so MANY little parts to make everything work. I am now more motivated/confident to fix my Atari Asteroids upright cabinet after watching all your tutorials

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Very cool, hope it helps! I'm working on another Asteroids right now.

It quite the fun journey watching this series. 79' was a good year. This classic came out and though off topic, I have a 79' Mongoose BMX I'm going to restore. I can't get enough of the videos on this channel!

I miss my Asteroids machine. I gave it away about 15 years ago. I played it so much and got so good at it that my scoring system was to see how many times I could turn over the score. :-) Thanks for these videos and channel. I'm a new subscriber. It makes me want to get back into owning a few of the original arcade games.

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

You might have to track one down again if you're that good at it, you must love playing it! Thanks for watching!

I love these type of videos. I love when you have to dig into the circuit boards and repair them. I also recently started watching another guy who only has like 200-something subscribers, and he just mainly works on boards using ROM testers and chip testers and O-scopes. You would definitely approve. Awesome video man

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks In My Head, we appreciate it! I've been watching some of your KISS videos!

@InMyHead

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade awesome I hope you enjoy i have a second video in my "The Panel Speaks" video coming out Friday and some computer, gaming, and appliance repair/restoration videos coming. Watching your videos is part of my regular workday lol

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man for watching! Ironically I just did a Dryer repair video myself :) I'll be uploading it soon.

@InMyHead

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade I love not limiting myself to what I show on my channel I'll be looking for that dryer repair!

Great repair video . Hint, you got to attack the asteroids, don't let them come to you. I remember just how much heat them old games use to put out. It was a hot time at the old arcade .

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah in the winter in our shop, we dont' even turn the heat on the games themselves heat up the building! Our shop down the street, we never even HAD heat! A couple days a year it was a little chilly but in general the games kept the building warm.

Thats awesome! takes me back to 16 again,great job!!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ted, we appreciate you watching!

Great project, thanks man

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Victory we appreciate you watching!

nice! I picked up for free an Asteroids deluxe looking very clean and everything is there, powers on but no video. I will be doing the monitor work you did.

Rewatched this tonight to learn a few this for this vector noob.

Thanks again for the repair videos. I really enjoy them. Not sure how you do most of them w/o a tripod - It may make your life easier. I'm restoring my first machine now and I'm working on a K4600. All recapped. The screen has a bit of a wave/swoop in it.. But I'm diving in this week to see if I can figure it out. I haven't seen if you've done a video working at the bench.. Would like to see those too - but grateful you spend the time as it is. thx

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Bob! We have done some bench videos but not too many, I work pretty slow so it'd be hours long :) Good luck on that 4600!

I know it is not appropriate for this channel ... but perhaps another channel could do an analysis of the software behind this game. Perhaps interview the developer. It was most likely written in 6502 assembly language. It is keeping track of multiple objects, doing collision detection, calculation trajectories, figures out how to blow apart an object in a somewhat believable way, controls the writing of the vector representations, etc. all on a little 1 or 2Mhz 6502 processor.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's definitely a work of art, pretty complex stuff even though the display is so simple. What's so impressive about it is how smooth everything is, the game never makes a mistake or glitches or anything. So it only has it's simple little gameplay, but it moves seemingly randomly and it always works right (nothing ever looks wrong, you never go through a UFO, there's never two on the screen, etc.) Very solid code.

Nice 3 vids on this repair. I don't know anything about fixing this stuff.. but I been watching so many of your videos! It's amazing what you are able to do … Like @alpha trion92 said .. "Makes me want to go fix my arcade machine... " then I realize I don't even own one LOL Awesome series , and keep up the great work !

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

They're not that complicated, they just LOOK complicated. Most of the circuitry is fairly simple, there's just a lot of it, so you have to break it down into easy parts, which is why I did these in this order to show the way to do it.... the PCB repair is by far the hardest part, though!

Good Job.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Harvey, we appreciate it!

From the days when just *one* sound effect in a video game could go out because some circuit wasn't working, and this stuff wasn't all handled in software.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and when a sound or something stops it's like a puzzle you can figure out with the schematics. Now if anything happens to one software related.... you're in trouble!

@MattMcIrvin

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade I'm more at home troubleshooting code than electronics, myself! But actually fixing it in the field could be a problem... (Just today I was playing Destiny 2 and one character's voice was missing for no apparent reason. Something went wrong deep in the software...)

Nice it works fine great job done ...

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Danijel!

Awesome. Stating the obvious, but an absolute classic. I spent many a happy hour playing this as a kid. However I was very disappointed to see you enter your name as Ron! I always assumed you were Joe

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

There's two of us!

@martywolfman

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know, I've heard you say 'we' plenty. Just always assumed you were the Joe, hehe

good video bro

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wilder, we appreciate you watching!

When we played these in 1980 we wondered how long the control buttons would work.

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly they all still work they just get dirty. You could still use them.

I give this three part fix up two 👍👍 up!!!

"It's better to be a little bit too small than it is to be a little bit too wide." Said no woman ever.

@LyonsArcade

2 жыл бұрын

you're gonna get me in trouble :) Thanks for watching Star Gazer!

I'd love to have one of these machines in my house, first game I really cut my teeth on down at the local department store when I was a kid,

@LyonsArcade

2 жыл бұрын

The good news is, they made a BUNCH of them! Thank you for watching Nyder!

At 23:15, when you powered up, there was a glow that intensified and went out. I thought maybe a fuse blowing but you didn't mention it. WTH was that? Loved the series on Asteroids. Besides pinball most of my paper route $$$ went into that game and I consider it well spent.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

That was the filament in the CRT, on the left, commonly referred to as "Neck Glow", that's normal.

@milojkokitic6991

4 жыл бұрын

Joe's Classic Video Games isnt it supposed to keep glowing, yours just went out

Great job. I loved this repair. Don't you find the new replacement bezel a little too reflective? Are there matte finish bezels available? Kind of like the difference between a shiny or matte LCD screen. Thumbs up!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice a difference between the two bezels, the other one was reflective too.

Saucer hunting involves speed. Get one of the slowest, most vertical moving asteroids you can and leave it alone. Thrust vertically, up or down, and get up the max speed. When the saucer pops out, let off thrust, turn and learn to time 4 rapid shots across his path. *boom* Turn back and continue thrusting until the next saucer pops. The little ones may be "smart" but they have a hard time tracking a moving target. Just be ready to slow down real quick if your last asteroid gets blown up in the action. Get good at this and 100,000 points will be yours in no time.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips zilverone!

Interesting video. Mine is doing similar things, everything works except the monitor. It was working, and I left it on overnite, and the screen stopped working during the nite. So I will check on these. Thanks

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Monitors/FAQ%20Black%20and%20White%20XY%20Version%201.1%20dated%207%20Feb%2002.pdf

It's a common problem for Asteroids to play blind, and it is the board. I've ran into that issue.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

But the one thing I have seen and also wondered. If Atari ever tried to program the rocks to hit each other and break apart. I mean the enemy ships hit the rocks they can break apart but not when the rocks hit each other. I always thought that was a little odd. And probably an unanswerable question. And my inner geek coming out.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

if the Asteroids could run into each other though it wouldn't be as fun to play :)

@ryansupak3639

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade If they bounced off each other (but didn't break), that could become a much tougher game.

Great Video! Where did you locate the cover for the high voltage board? (Of course, mine is missing as well LOL.)

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

I made one out of some old cage I had laying around that a gameboard used to be installed in. From what I understand you can buy that perforated aluminum at Lowes and bend one to fit.

This is my favorite stand up arcade game. How did you fix the speaker? I've seen so many of these games that have the speaker on top; but never knew how to get to it if they ever need cleaned out or replaced. Even with your videos with the back panels off; I haven't seen where the speakers are accessible if their in the top above the monitor.

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

We have a video on here somewhere where we fixed the speaker in one, you take the marquee off and then there is a shelf that slides out with the light on it, you can get to the speaker up there.

Mine has vertical lines on the monitor, which warp and double everything that passes through that area.

JOES CLASSIC, I'm confused what are the differences on the games motherboard and arcade monitor boards the differences between a raster arcade game compared to a vector arcade game. If you know the differences it would be nice to explain what are the differences please, thank you.

I don't think its dielectric grease, its the rubber compound that starts to break down. I have the same with a rubber gameboy classic bumper case. It starts to sweat and gets sticky.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Very well could be, you're right!

You can hear me? Ok now I am paranoid. Google Alexa got nothing on Joe's classic arcade. He sees and hears everything.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

It's because of your keyboard. It's all through the keyboard.

It looks so sexy with it's copper shielding.. And I want to worm up those cold solder joints and tweak the diodes. And the unedited schematics! Wait a minute.. Electronic circuitry porn? Is that a thing? And is that weird? Lol. Cool video though. Another arcade classics game lives again.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

That's not weird!

I used to wonder how the game knew when not to put you on the screen too (when I was a kid), having coded for many years, I would suspect they're simply checking to see if the asteroids are within a certain distance from the center of the screen (where they game always puts you), and inhibiting the game from spawning your character if an asteroid is within that 'box' around the center of the screen. Using routines similar to collision detection. "If object is within this box, spawn enable = false". You could get a fancy though if you wanted to and calculate the slope and if an asteroid is within a specific quadrant (top left, top right, bottom left or bottom right), and the slope is either increasing or decreasing, you could determine if an asteroid is heading toward or away from the center of the screen, but I honestly don't think they're getting that fancy. I've seen the code, and because it's vector graphics, and there's no graphics data, the actual code is only like 4k, so it's pretty simple.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's more like your second example but if there is an asteroids near the ship, but not in the path of the ship, it will spawn you. I have had it spawn me before when there's an asteroid moving fast near the edge heading right for the ship though. So it seems it can't tell if the asteroid is far away and quickly approaching, but it can tell if the Asteroid is near, and is not approaching the ship, even if it's moving towards the ship but at an angle that will miss. neat little trick whoever coded it!

Let me know if the voices in my head are to loud for ya!!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Was that you making all that noise?????

Is there a reason you don't use the continuity function (the beeper, one setting below the resistance setting) for checking? It gives you a real quick way to check because it will beep with continuity.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Brendan; Yes, you can use that but sometimes it will beep when there's an ohm or so of resistance, or even more... when if it's a direct short like a trace or something you really want to be closer to 0 ohms resistance. So if you check the resistance instead of the continuity it tells you just a little bit more about what's going on. Continuity check is good for electrical work but electronics work I prefer to use the resistance check, it's just a minor thing though so you could do it either way.

Really enjoying your videos. Great to see these old machines come back to life. One thing is bugging me a little: You might want to periodically warn people about discharging capacitors and being certain that everything is unplugged and de-energized. I know it's second nature to you and should just be common sense but CYA. I apologize if this has been covered, I'm not a big comment reader.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

I've never been too worried about it, I get shocked every once in awhile and it doesn't kill you the way people claim it does, lol. Most monitors bleed off the high voltage anyways, I don't think I've ever been shocked by one of these vectors. Touching them while they're turned on kicks a little bit though, definitely :)

@eeniac

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Fair enough, that has been my experience as well. Got stung a little a few times, mostly wiring outlets, and once by an old tube amp. Still, they say a high voltage capacitor can be lethal but that's mostly tube amps. I reckon a flyback could zap a dot on you but they bleed down more or less instantly when shut off. Thanks for the reply.

@gerrygerry4306

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent videos. I'm going to look at an asteroids for someone and feel much better about my chances now. Much better. I wondering the same as Bryan about the lack of high voltage warnings around the monitor. I was heavily warned in my limited monitor experience. I've seen some pretty big blue SNAP come out of monitors that hadn't been plugged in for a long period of time. Newer monitors discharge but most of the old ones relied on dirt for a discharge path. So I was told. :) FYI, your meter is fine. The .2 ohm you see on your meter is from the leads.

Hey, thanks for this video! My Dad has an old asteroids machine he bought with his first payback back in the 80s and we've been restoring it recently. New buttons, high score save kit, and a new light starter to get the marquee working for the first time ever. The monitor works and looks great.. sort of, and I'm curious if you have any insight into this. Basically, the screen flickers. As in, the asteroids, high scores, and player ship goes from being bright to dim every second or so. It's not a slow flicker, it's instantaneous. It almost seems to happen at the same pace the player 1 and player 2 start buttons flash at. It's very strange. It's like the more objects on screen the worse it gets. I'm thinking it's probably some bad caps somewhere, but man I'm so not looking forward to recapping everything if I don't have to. If you have any ideas we could narrow it down to, I'd very much appreciate it! Google hasn't been much help, and it's getting harder and harder to find people who know stuff about this!

@LyonsArcade

18 күн бұрын

Does it do it just a little bit or is it very drastic? That's the 'z' section of the monitor (x, y, z) which is the intensity. I would start with the high voltage unit in the monitor though and recap that, if it doesn't fix it I'd recap the power supply on the side wall of the game.

@bkacjios

15 күн бұрын

​@LyonsArcade it's not too drastic, at least while playing. The high score screen is probably the worst. The score list kinda flashes from brighter to dimmer in one second intervals. I noticed sometimes the positioning of text can get a little wonky too. The high score save mod menu is honestly the worst in that regard. Some of the text will actually kinda freak out and be drawn like an inch or so away from where it should be. It's pretty weird. Just seems like it gets worse with more things on screen like I said. The best way to describe it is like the screen is just ever-so-slightly unstable, mostly in the Z axis, but sometimes rarely in the X and Y too if there's a lot going on. Thanks though! Will definitely start from those spots and see how it improves from there! Thanks for the info!

Great video, I have an Omega Race and the image on the vector Monitor will pulse slightly , like its zooming in and out slightly, if I leave the game on for awhile the whole image ends up zoomed in and larger , so much so that it cuts off decent amount of the image. Any idea what it could be? Appreciate it if you have any ideas , thanks

@LyonsArcade

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly... I know exactly what that is. It's the high voltage diode in the high voltage cage, it's the one that hooks to the Anode (the big wire coming out and going to the tube). You need to either replace it, or take it out and clean it so it's making better connection inside the little rubber cups that hold it in place. They call that "Blooming" it's a very common problem on the black and white vectors.

Friend….I have video but on only half the screen…right side. It’s the smaller asteroids machine…assume it’s the same. So essentially the screen would work…but… Gonna come at you for help….just divorced…I NEED…this up and running….just out of spite. Waving from Oregon.

@LyonsArcade

2 жыл бұрын

When you've got half the screen missing it's almost always the connection between the transistors on the frame of the monitor, and the plugs where they plug in on the deflection board. If you take the deflection board out and look at the back of the plugs usually some of them will have cracks around the posts of some of them. If you had a serious issue you wouldn't have an image on either side of the monitor, the only way for it to fail like that is if one of the transistors isn't connected well, usually with a cracked joint on the connector. Needs to be resoldered....

@drewd1726

2 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade As soon as you mentioned that in the video…made total sense. Appreciate you and what you do…your content and demeanor, not to mention your walkthrough…A+ bud. Thanks for the reply.

Hi Love the video I have the same game system but when I start up the game my screen is collapsed only have of the screen works. Any ideas on what it might be?

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, on the monitor if you're looking at the back of the monitor, the board on the right is the deflection board. The connectors on that get bad solder joints on them and the solder needs reflowed.

@mikeb6418

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe Merry Christmas! Thanks for the reply. I have no experience in electronics. Is this something a Novice can do?

The blooming issue regarding the diode. Is that the same for Raster monitors also? I have a 19v1001 is a Space Invaders that does the same when left on

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

I don't believe those used a diode on the flyback, there's something definitely going on in your high voltage section though, have you recapped it?

@robhassell8447

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s been recapped however the only capacitors that have not been changed are the ones in the metal can

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

They could be your problem.... measure the B+ voltage when it looks normal, and then measure it again when it's all bloomed up, I'll bet the voltage is rising which could definitely be one of those filter caps in that can. You can replace those too, you just get ones that are the value listed on the side of the can, put all the negative leads to a ground, and tie the positive of each cap to whatever wire is tied to that cap in the can.

@robhassell8447

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information

@andymouse

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Very early fly back transformers had external half wave rectifier diodes like yours, later models are encapsulated inside.

I just picked up one of these from a client, it worked perfectly for a few months. But I turned it on for the first time today in a few weeks and it only displays one lonely white dot in the center. I can hear the game playing and the white dot fluctuates as the fire button is pressed. Any guidance would be beyond appreciated!!!

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

You've lost deflection on your deflection board, basically in the back of the monitor looking from the back on the right side there is a flat pcb, see if any of the fuses are blown on that board. Google "X Y Monitor FAQ" and a nice document will pop up that walks you through how to check everything on that board and repair it. Your high voltage unit is working or you wouldn't get the dot in the middle. Try to not to operate it too much with that dot like that, since it's so concentrated it'll burn a little black spot in the tube that you'll be able to still see after you fix it, i'll bet if you look really close it's already got one burnt there, sometimes there will be 4 or 5 dots burnt in!

Hi Joe I can't get any reading on deflection board on both large capasitors. I have a asteroids deluxe. It looks like it each one controls one half of the board. Everything else checks out.What is the readings I should be getting for each one?

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure of the voltage, I've never checked that... usually it's not the actual capacitors, we need to figure out if a signal is being sent over the main board up to the monitor, or if there's no signal being sent so the monitor isn't turning on the deflection. check the voltage coming off the x out and y out on the board, if you have a voltage moving around (from like, -10 to +10).... If those are moving around then it's sending the signal out. Then look on your deflection board and see if the red led is lit up, if it is the deflection board is turning itself off... check all the fuses and if any of them are blown that's your problem. Unfortunately I don't know what voltage would be present on the caps there you're mentioning if it's working right, I've never had to mess with those and never tested the voltage unfortunately. ...

@paulclauson2478

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade ok but when i plugged it in i here no vector chatter but i see a glow before the monitor Did not check the high voltage box. on the main board their is a red light on the board that stays lit. everything else checked out on deflection board when i flipped it over it gave me the readings on the back except the capasitors. nothing loose no fuses are blown!

@paulclauson2478

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade deflection board red light is on!

@paulclauson2478

4 жыл бұрын

I have a v2000 deflection board marked in red P299

i thought it said 0.1 ohms, but it said OL. I'm not that familiar with using Fluke multimeters.

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

It's been so long since I did this video I don't remember the specifics but .1ohms is definitely not blown :)

@PlumGurly

3 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade -- or maybe the meter reads differently from some I've used. Something was wrong with the monitor and you got it to work.

See, my monitor lights up in the back where the tube is. But no picture. Weird

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

If yours lights up in the back but no picture you may have a problem in the high voltage unit, read this and you can fix it : arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Monitors/FAQ%20Black%20and%20White%20XY%20Version%201.1%20dated%207%20Feb%2002.pdf

Those 0.47uF 35V are tantalum capacitors, better than usual electrolytes. Do not know if it is critical in this application, maybe modern electrolytes are good enough for old tantalum.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

There is a "Vector monitor F.A.Q." that's kind of like the Bible for these monitors and years ago the gentlemen that wrote that figured out that in this particular application replacing those with a 1uf electrolytic is the way to go so that's what we do. I think like you mentioned the manufacturing has improved so much since those were made that even the crummy electrolytics now are similar to the tantalums back then but who knows?

@pablooJar

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Probably he knew what he was doing. Thanks for filming, didn't know those machines used vector displays, quite fascinating for nerd like me ;)

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Wait till you see the color vectors :)

@stargazer7644

2 жыл бұрын

Tants and electolytics have different frequency responses. Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. That's why you often see them in pairs with a tant and an electrolytic together. Tants are crappy little caps over time, but there's a reason why they're used.

Looks fantastic !...how much do they sell for please ? how much to me ?

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

The last one we had sold for $1200.

It no's because there is a software collision detection system, before displaying the ship, check for a collision, then place ship, The maths for this is well over my head.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

Yup then they have to figure out the math for the vector display after that!

First, let me say that I love your videos and I understand that you can't save all of the world's arcade machines. But... I have an Asteroids Deluxe with a small issue. It works very well but asteroids and ships appear larger in size (2x size) when they are displayed in certain areas of the screen. The test pattern does not have perfectly strait lines but it does look pretty good and does not show a distortion where I would expect. I have searched the web but have not seen anyone else with this issue. I would like to fix this issue but since the machine is still playable I am afraid of breaking it while trying to improve it. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

If you check out this site it shows a bunch of repairs people have found :sites.google.com/site/asteroidsrepairlog/ .... They had a problem with ships too big that ended up being one of the Vector Data Latches, on the Asteroids Deluxe schematics it's at the far right of this sheet at the top: arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Atari_Kee/Asteroids_Deluxe/Asteroids_Deluxe_DP-165-1st-02A.pdf You'd be looking for a line that is pulsing coming in but staying high or low when it comes out of one of those latches, that's where I'd look first. The game has the ability to make the vectors get smaller (the asteroids mainly) as they get blown apart so if that gets messed up it makes things the wrong size....

@TheMightyKentor

4 жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Thanks for the crazy fast response to my cry for help. I had a cap kit sitting on the shelf for the main board. I gathered my courage and installed it tonight. I also freshened up the solder joints at K7. THE ISSUE IS FIXED! I can't thank you enough!

Is there a source for new vector monitors nowadays?

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

No there isn't. You can no longer buy Vector monitors and can no longer even buy raster monitors either.

@b.o.353

4 жыл бұрын

Joe's Classic Video Games I played a Tempest at a bar a few weeks ago, but it had a flat screen, terrible resolution, slowdown, and a joystick bolted in where the spinner once was. Was horrible, not sure exactly what was inside. Can a vector game be properly re-rigged with a flat screen monitor that’s only got 1ms delay on it or are we just looking at one day not having them to play? At some point all the x-y monitors are going to give up the ghost.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

@@b.o.353 Eventually they'll make a new tube and we'll be able to retrofit them in. You can put an LCD screen in but it's super expensive if it's the original gameboard, you were likely playing an emulator.

@MattMcIrvin

4 жыл бұрын

@@b.o.353 The flat screen I could stand, but an arcade Tempest with a joystick? BLASPHEMY Might have just had a Raspberry Pi in it running an emulator. They make those 60-in-1 boards that just have an emulator running a bunch of pirated games on it--still tolerable if the cabinet has nice arcade controls, but it's not quite the real deal.

Could you fix my vectrex if needed?

@LyonsArcade

3 жыл бұрын

I've never messed with those unfortunately!

If only I had the cash.. My dreams and aspirations can never Mach up to my financial situation. Damn it. Oh well maybe some day.

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

you need to make more money!

@tayvenponder

3 жыл бұрын

I just picked up a great condition working asteroids for just 400! Be patient there’s deals out there!

It’s either cold solder, or cod sodder. You can’t have it both ways! Come on people. People? Come on. And guess what, ITS BROKE!

I thought you where Joe but you put in Ron , what gives ?

@LyonsArcade

4 жыл бұрын

There's two of us!

@CNKayutube

4 жыл бұрын

Oh so Joe is the front man and Ron is the brains behind the curtain! Cool!!👍