Repair Information Overview AllData vs Prodemand vs Identifix
Comparing Mitchell Prodemand, Identifix and Alldata repair information and comparing diy access options as well
For a wiring overview of what each repair information system has to offer her is a link to another video - • ProDemand and Alldata ...
Alldata DIY - www.alldatadiy.com/
Prodemand DIY - www.eautorepair.net
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Going back to the Service intervals: In Alldata, if you actually click on the specific mileage instead of looking at the overview, a print button will show in the upper right hand corner. Once it's clicked, a full detail of the recommend jobs will pop up for that mileage (example: 60,000 service only). Its a nice printable document for your tech and customer.
Alldata DIY had limitations a couple years ago. I can't remember what exactly but I saw this when I compared it to the shop version once I updated. I'll be going with just Identifix this week, after using Alldata and Mitchell for years. It looks pretty comprehensive, plus the rep knocked 40 bucks off the sub, LOL!
Thanks so much for your public service. You earned my sub!
i purchased a one vehicle one year subscription to alldata diy. mostly because at the moment i had my card out something didnt work with Mitchell diy. ive been very satisfied and am learning new power abilities all the time. it may be little pricier but ive purchased 3 more vehicles.. no complaints. when my subscriptions begin to expire i may try something else. Great vid BTW
Identifix is hands down the best software you can use and it now does have DIY and Pro Academy!!!!!!!!
Great t shirt...👍👍👍 I use alldata most and then identifix. Sometimes I have access to factory tools and info..all depends on what I'm doing
@ThePracticalMechanic
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Drew. I picked one up when I order the pulse sensor from Cody. It seems like these are the most common repair sources for the US aftermarket at the moment.
@CubasAutomotive
5 жыл бұрын
I 2nd that Alldata, Drew. So far it's my fave.
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Nice comparisons Chad. I've wondered about identifix...but have used Mitchell but love my Alldata. I just find things like schematics more accurate.
@jaysonbourne8841
3 жыл бұрын
If your a female technician, sexyyy.......
@mzee5533
3 жыл бұрын
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Awesome chad!
To print your maintenance table click on the arrow below the mileage next to details it will allow the schedule to be printed in PDF
@ThePracticalMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean. I don't get to do scheduled maintenance often anymore so I have become unfamiliar with some of the functions.
Hey boss do you know if Mitchell is compatible with the MacBook Pro 💻
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
Since it is web based you shouldn’t have an issue. It works fine on my iPad. If you have an issue with safari you may need to install chrome or Firefox.
@HomieHektor
4 жыл бұрын
ThePracticalMechanic Gotcha, thanks for replying 🤙🏼
Great video. What do you recommend for older DIY vehicles? I have a '91 nissan D21 truck, Ka24e engine. Has a bad idle or miss and for the life of me, I can't find it. Would identafix be a better data site to use then all data or pro demand? Or are older vehicles just not well covered? Thanks for any help!
Awesome info
@ThePracticalMechanic
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
geat video good info
Very informational, thank you.
Iv been professionally working on cars for 18 years & due to Corona it would have been 19 years. We are using Mitchell pro demand at the shop and for some reason it’s not like it used to be. I remember identi fix was the best one at the time & for me personally Pro demand Mitchell gives a vague description and precise removal of components. I’m questioning my skills due to the facts that I’ve been out of the game for almost 2 - 3 years. Times have changed as well as the technology. We adapt.....so thinking on getting another application.... which one I don’t know yet. Is identifications still precise with part removal and electrical schematics? Step by step would be better for me at this point 🤷🏻♂️ I forgotten a lot within three years & obviously I’m getting older but. I’d like a recommendation. Thank you so much for sharing and I just subscribed 🏴☠️💯
Nice video...
I need to either remove the heads for a head gasket on 2014 GX460 or pull the engine and replace not sure yet which. Which of these would you say for those tasks?
hi I'm Salem Albadin from Queensland Australia I'm an auto electrician and professional Dignostic , so what is the difference between Mitchell 1 vs ProDemand , and I need your advice about which program is better for someone like me who works every day in very difficult problems in auto electrical systems
Thanks
I use alldatadiy and add it to the bill. There is usually a coupon which brings it to about $10. I would like to be able to highlight wires which they don’t do yet
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize until recently that the diy version of Alldata and prodemand are different than what is available to shops.
@istvanmeissler2238
4 жыл бұрын
Where do you find the coupon? Thanks.
@bartscave
4 жыл бұрын
@@istvanmeissler2238 SUMMER19 is a coupon now for $12.95. Once you start building a library they will send coupons out.
If I am in the Caribbean working and mostly Japanese vehicle which one of these fix or better for me Alldata Identifix or Mitchell
Great video. Can anyone purchase the full version of these sites or only licensed shops? Think the DIY version has a guide for replacing a 01 Odyssey ABS brake module?
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone can purchase the full version of ALLDATA. But it is a one year subscription.
Hi i really liked the video excellent presentation a quick question please i intend to open a repair and maintenance workshop for almost all brands of vehicles except the BMW and Mercedes which repair system would you recommend ?
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
My honest answer is all three but if I had to chose just one it would be a tie between Prodemand and Identifix. Both will supply you with repair and labor estimating guides. The identifix articles and testing can be very helpful at time but can cause target fixation as well many techs will skip the diagnostic process and this leads to comebacks. Prodemand has been around for ages and integrates with many shop management systems and many Snapon scantools. Alldata has great features as well and depending on where your located you may be able to get a discounted rate from autozone.
Can anybody purchase identifix or is it available only for shops?
There is a free resource for BMW's, newtis(dot)info. BBB industries has free factory wiring diagrams. I jump back and forth between identifix and shopkey. Identifix used to have catch up maintenance, but that seems to have disappeared. It was good for finding out what should have been done already.
@ThePracticalMechanic
5 жыл бұрын
I forgot about the catchup maintenance that identifix had. I will have to double check now and make sure I didn’t miss a button. Seems like they included the stuff from the last 10k or 5k in case the customer didn’t follow the manual. I will have to look at BBB industries. I think Ivan (Pine Hallow Auto Diagnostics) uses BBB in many of his videos and free diagrams sound like a great resource for DIY mechanics. I have newtis save in my bookmarks for future BMW use. I just hope I can navigate it since I’m not familiar with BMWs body and engine codes. I only work on a four or five BMWs a year.
@picoboo5048
5 жыл бұрын
@@ThePracticalMechanic google is your friend, my friend!
@ThePracticalMechanic
5 жыл бұрын
Pico Boo I alway end up at the bottom of the google rabbit hole.
@hsttrek1
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePracticalMechanic BBB Industries wiring diagrams are no longer available..☹️
@ThePracticalMechanic Did you find out if there were any limitations for AllData DIY?
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I have herd the diy software is slightly different then the pro version and may not have as much information. The wiring diagrams are not as interactive either.
You're not using the search function in Alldata to pull up the strut. That's usually much faster than clicking through the path you went
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I got too familiar with the older databases that didn’t have a good search. Both Mitchell and Alldata have drastically improved the search function. I’m still getting used to Alldata after coming from a Mitchell Prodemand background.
Did you ever hear back from AllDAta DIY regarding limitations like the Mitchell? I have a 2011 Dodge Ram and I am hunting down a door lock issue, I was thinking of getting the AllData DIY but if there is not door lock info, then that would be silly.
@ThePracticalMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
At this point it seem both Mitchell and alldata have limitation in some form or another. The limitations are different between vehicles and year ranges. The better option might be to pay for the OEM information. Techauthority.com will give you access on a short term basis (1day, 3day, etc) but it will have all the information needed. You can also purchase the wiring diagrams for life for specific vehicles.
@AFatherToTheFatherless
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePracticalMechanic for Chryslers only
Old video I know. But @ 12:28 this is partly because of your print area of the Rollo printer
@ThePracticalMechanic
2 жыл бұрын
Good catch. Strange that it defaulted to the rollo instead of my epson. Just thinking about reading a diagram or SI off a rollo label makes me cringe.
Hi, great video...thank you for including the DIY section. I live outside America and I notice that these businesses don't allow 'outsiders' to purchase subscriptions . (1) Can you confirm this? (2) Have you reviewed Emanual on line? Thier reviews have scared me off parting with my money? Looking forward to your observations. Thank you once again.
@phr3ui559
4 ай бұрын
hmm
Great video, I was curious which system show labor time within main subscription? I know in Alldata you'll need to pay for estimator separately, but what if I don't need to make estimate, just simply want's to have an idea of how much time for each repair, any of these have that without paying estimator? Thanks
@ThePracticalMechanic
Жыл бұрын
I think identifix is the only one that has labor times in the main subscription.
@davidbsac
4 ай бұрын
@@ThePracticalMechanic ALLDATA has labor times throughout the Repair information system; you do not need to buy anything extra.
@davidbsac
4 ай бұрын
ALLDATA has labor times throughout the Repair information system; you do not need to buy anything extra.
Which one would you say does more accurate labor time studies? I've quotes repairs based on alldata parts and labor section and royally screwed myself before
@ThePracticalMechanic
2 жыл бұрын
They all have short comings. We use Mitchell for most of our labor guide operations but we double check alldata and identifix(motor/chilton) on Subaru turbo cars and euro vehicles.
Does all data diy provide step by step instructions for part replacement? Etc clutch
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
Does anyone know if you can edit labor repair times in alldata to account for older or problem cars? I’m a master Vw tech so for instance the older Passats with 4 link front suspension has upper bolts that always seize and are a pain to get out. With prodemand I can add .50/hr to account for this common labor expense.
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
Any shop management system will allow editing labor times. ALLDATA has 4 types of SMS with different features but all allow editing labor times.
I need a wiring diagram for a Ford 4500 series diesel backhoe tracktor
I bought all data for one month but I didn't find what I was looking for! I was looking for how to replace coolant bypass pipe on my 2010 subaru wrx. Where can I find this?
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 ай бұрын
Are you talking about the crossover pipe under the intake? Sometimes you have to lookup a similar repair or a larger repair that will require the removal or the part. I would likely look up intake removal and the then the crossover housing is only 4 bolts or so.
My car was not in alldatadiy :( My car is ford cmax 2015 diesel. Website is only for hybrid and energi. Any solution?
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I just check my version of prodemand and Alldata and it does not show a diesel variant. I can’t find much information about the diesel “duratorq” engine except in Europe only vehicles.
Do you know which system is best for invoicing customers?
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t use the invoicing system with any of these companies. This was just to cover the service information systems. Mitchell Manager(snapon shopkey) is a very common Shop management system but there are dozens of other ones out there.
Can you update All Data and how you get the code?
I like to use the snipping tool for windows so I can print off exactly what I see on my screen. Just thought this tip could help people.
@ThePracticalMechanic
10 ай бұрын
Great tip. Snipping tool for those that haven’t used it before is activated by pressing shift+windows key+s or by typing snip in the search box.
Does AllDATAdiy have limitations in 2020? If so, what are they? Thanks.
@deviousmotorworks3834
3 жыл бұрын
Its very basic diagrams and standard info. All the good features are for the pro version. It's usable yes but nothing like the paid version. Wiring diagrams are basic black and white diagrams. It has a lot of useless info like technician book times with factory part numbers. Which most diy don't need. Like if you under suspension only some repair have guides and others do not or are mention in others so you have to dig for things. Just my 2cents for the price its a c+/b- program.
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
@@deviousmotorworks3834 The DIY version now has parity with the pro version.
Is it possible to use the program to repair motorcycles?
@ThePracticalMechanic
Жыл бұрын
There is no motorcycles listed in the vehicle list from any of these three providers. I’m not sure who offers for MC. I normally just download the manual from emanualonline for my MC and small engines.
I tried looking for all data kind of thing only for hybrid and EV but can’t find non and I hate paying for cars I don’t even work on like regular gas car. My shop is an EV /HEV repair shop
@ThePracticalMechanic
8 ай бұрын
If your shop is doing ev repair you should probably have the full shop version. It only a few hundred per month. We pay for all three pro versions.
Does anyone use motor tru tech?
I have a '96 Grand Caravan, 3.8L AT 2WD that died on the road. No code, no spark. Cam position sensor and crank position sensor test good (I get a change in conductivity when engine cranks), the coil is new, still no spark. None of the voltages match the factory manual specifications, however. I have a code scanner, but no codes. I have AllDataDIY but I see no help whatever in diagnosing what has gone wrong. I see the exact same information that I have in the factory service manuals. I hate to just blindly replace the ECM because it is sending 8 volts to the sensors. How can any of this software help me figure out what is wrong? Also, "Cycle Ignition key as described in manual and observe code flashed by Check" does not help one bit.
@things971
3 жыл бұрын
Have you check your fuel pressure?
@johnbrooks7144
3 жыл бұрын
@@things971 Yes. No fire.
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
You’re using the wrong tools. Scope the waveform from the crank and cam sensors. Look for a bad waveform or bad cam/crank correlation. The crank sensor on your van reads off the flex plate. They have been known to crack and throw off correlation. The crank sensor is a high failure item and without it there will be no spark. Check waveforms at the coil pack. No trigger signal means no spark.
@johnbrooks7144
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbsac Thanks. I handed it off to a real mechanic who has all the diagnostic equipment and knows how to use it.
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbrooks7144 what were the results?
Do any of these have BMW? I saw alldatadiy doesnt have bmw.
@AbsolutelyNot12345
3 жыл бұрын
Alldata has every vehicle you can imagine.
Has anyone tried motor etech online?
Why not depend on the Causes & Fixes page? doesn't it give you the causes for the given error code?
@ThePracticalMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
While it is sometime good to reference the cause and fix page for a visual reference of code that could be caused by a common failure I still prefer reading the code set criteria and determining if the part is functioning as designed.
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
Causes and fixes have limited usefulness. That’s why I’m not a fan of Identifix as it encourages techs to throw parts at the problem. Read the description of how the system works and then proceed with inspection and testing. Test and verify symptoms. Diagnose causes.Then repair. Repairs may be wiring or connector related and not involve parts replacement. Bad grounds are also a common problem.
i,m after a manual,,,why would i pay same for one month...on same model....pass
@dant6769
2 жыл бұрын
Hayes/Chilton manuals kind of suck compared to these online databases. Pictures are black and white, hard to see, no exploded diagrams. I use them for specs, that’s about it. Trying to use them to learn how to fix/replace parts is a pain.
I suspect the "diy" Alldata subscription is LACKING some crucial data to favor dealers. I dont see fuel trim... either
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
Fuel trim is a scan tool value. ALLDATA DIY does include information on diagnosis of fuel trim that is out of limits.
Sorry late to the party. I am a retired shop owner. I used alldata for years .'My son acquired a2014 Volvo s60 with timing belt bent valve syndrome. All data only showed pictures without descriptions.They could not even provide valve clearances even with email requests. Maybe diy info is incomplete.
@ThePracticalMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a bummer. Did you ask for a refund? A short term subscription to factory service information may be better. Just make sure you get all the information saved or printed out before the subscription expires. Might check a local shop and see if they will help you out as well.
@donaldisrael7147
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePracticalMechanic Everything worked out well. Ten intake valves replaced-only had to swap 2 buckets for proper clearance. Car had the famous shredded drive belt causing timing bel slippage,
I just started a mechanic business and i wanted to know if you know of a program than can tell you hours of labor and parts of the vehicles for free?
@ThePracticalMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
mel ellner if you have a commercial account setup with napa or carquest you will have access to a limited estimate builder from you parts ordering page. Honestly if you opening a business and charging for repairs just pay for one of these programs. You are going to need repair information and you waste more time looking for free information than if you just pay for the information. The cost of anyone of these programs can be earned by working on a few cars. If the information saves you three hours over the course of a month it paid for itself.
@melcastilloCrj700
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information, this will actually help me allot!
Prodemand (Mitchell) sends you a disc as well as the web download when you sign up!
I have never had Alldata or Alldatadiy. Now with that being said, I am liking Alldata more than the Diy one. Although do you need to be a shop owner or have a tax ID to have one? I know it is way more expensive. $179 a month compared to the $30 first vehicle and $20 per vehicle. I also prefer the one with more interaction which seems to be the AllData. Any help would be great! Thank you all in advance!!!!
@maxboya
4 жыл бұрын
Cant! People who don’t run a shop and are “DIYers” get the BS lower quality site. Not even slightly interested anymore! Scammers !
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
@@maxboya ALLDATA DIY now is the same as the professional version of ALLDATA.
@maxboya
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbsac fantastic! Only took a year! LOL!
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
@@maxboya The change occurred several months ago.
Alldata doesn’t give DIY access for BMW
How much does all data cost a month? And also which one of these softwares are most affordable? Thank you.
@AbsolutelyNot12345
3 жыл бұрын
$160/month and it’s the best of them all.
@erikrodriguez8383
3 жыл бұрын
I found that my library had an alldata subscription that we can use, you could also check yours.
@lifepresent3183
3 жыл бұрын
Watch the video and you might learn
@joshualawson7604
3 жыл бұрын
@@erikrodriguez8383 What's your login info, thanks. JK, but it's a shame we don't have that here.
@erikrodriguez8383
3 жыл бұрын
@@joshualawson7604 dang thats too bad, best of luck
Dose alldata provides wiring diagram for Japanese vehicles!
@ThePracticalMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
Yes alldata has domestic, imports and European vehicles as long as they were sold in the USA market.
Do you know a free site without any registration or email?
AllData don't carry SUV my Honda Pilot 2017 is not cover.
Regarding AllDataDIY, I have a ton of problems with this vendor and I would not recommend. I currently have a subscription for car #1 and want to purchase another subscription for car #2 and they want $65.99 not $20!
Mitchell1 is the best compared to their competitors and has far more information then AllData and Identifix combined. “NoData” just doesn’t cut it when it comes to running shop. I like identifix but it can be too messy to find things.
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. My 1st stop is Prodemand and then identifix and then alldata. All of these companies will help you locate the information or send it to you via email if you cant find it but that takes additional time.
@christianstamps6410
4 жыл бұрын
I'd say Identifix is the best by far. Mitchel only offers 60,000 or so fixes. Identifix gives you 2.5 Million fixes that are live updated weekly... There is no comparison when it comes to the amount of information, Identifix takes the cake imo
@davidbsac
2 жыл бұрын
ALLDATA has the same amount of information as Mitchell. TSB’s, wiring diagrams, procedures, all the same. What is different is the way that information is organized. If you use the search function you can find the info.
I work on cars and dealers give me the info. Companies are getting rich on free info.
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That identifix is horribly inefficient. I got an ELM 327 and a $150 Lenovo T440 on eBay , and paid $10 for the Pro App , and it's surprisingly better than any scan Tool . Especially that Snap - On $10.000 first Gen Tablet still using Windows XP , and I Love the 20 second Delay between the Data screen values , and the real time values.I hate that Snap - On scanner. ALLDATA is My favorite source for info. I prefer the older version to Their newer version cause I an so used to the older one.
@ThePracticalMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
I think all electronic service manual providers have their place in the shop but all have strengths and weaknesses.
@raedessam
4 жыл бұрын
which app do u recommend?
@davidwaynechoate8059
4 жыл бұрын
@@raedessam If You have a shop , and use Alldata , I have found out that They now offer a scan tool service using a blue tooth interface and even supply a free Tablet. FOR the Do it Yourselfer they offer a cheaper version. I always thought Alldata was very good.
You just mentioned some basic things that aren’t covered for the do it yourself group and yet you’re recommending for the diy to purchase the alldata subscription? Huh? That doesn’t help the diyer? In today day and age will so many deplorables lacking disposable income living paycheck to paycheck being RAPED for car repairs I would think you could do better to provide something next to non fees, especially since the diyer is also being RAPED for the damn parts too. Yes free!!!
Alldata DIY sucks i used it a few years back looks nothing like the shop version you showed very poor ... You are better off with a hanyes manual.. Identifix is good....
@dant6769
2 жыл бұрын
It’s better now
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@johnmascarena6340
Жыл бұрын
Where can I get a wire diagram for a 1089 Lincoln town car with 5.0 engine, power steering, power brakes, A/C ,power window and a 1967 chevy malibu with 283 cu inch engine and power steering.