Removing Heavy Swirls From Dark Finishes! (Hard Clear Coat)
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This video shows the way I remove swirls from darker finishes. This is a harder BASF finish. We will use Sonax Cut Max a current leader of our Cutting Compound Series.
Sonax CutMax is a highly abrasive cutting compound for polishing sanded or severely weathered paint surfaces.
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@maxfriedenberger8043
6 жыл бұрын
Brian yes it does!!!!
@topgun7234
6 жыл бұрын
lol...right!
@imrichbitch.1937
6 жыл бұрын
*_Brian, excellent work as always!_*
@MDI.PHOTOGRAPHY828
6 жыл бұрын
Apex Detail do you have a Facebook contact?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
@apexautodetails
I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to make these great videos for us all
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Hey... my pleasure... hope they help a bit.👍🏻
Thank you for all your time and vids. I am learning a lot from them. Especially since our household consists of 2 silver & 1 black vehicles.
Extremely well done. I feel patience is the key, you aren’t at all rushed in your movements.
Good choice in tools and products, that clear was really hammered!
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
It was! Looked like a scotchbright pad was used to wash it!
Awesome finish!! Thanks for putting this video up! That vehicle looks amazing!
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Its a bit better!👍🏻
damn, plz more real-world videos. It's so helpful for beginners like me as you went though the process how to choose the combination. Thums up
You know what would be interesting? A discussion of the various clear coat systems in use today and their different properties. Another excellent video as usual
exactly what I need to know. I have a Mercedes too and I tried Meguiars compound but it didn't helped that much. I was unsure if I should use heavy products... now i know. thank you
Outstanding as always brian thank you
Sweet..happy customer in deed !!
Clean.....not only the ME/BE bit your shop too. Nice job all around!
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah... I go over that floor every 3 days or so.
Looking awesome. By the way i live down the street in wernersville. Seen your car outside your shop and yelled to my wife, I FOLLOW THAT GUY ON KZread LOL.
😱👍🏻😍! You can definitely see a difference!!! One question- did you end up using the uro micro fiber pads on certain areas?
Thanks Brian.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Anytime!!
Looks great ! How do you handle around the emblems and so forth ? Seems impossible to reach and correct
Great video sir....Would a euro fiber pad be a choice here? Thanks for all your hard work !!!!
Awesome work! Thanks for the vids, you have a great channel! Do you go over the headlamps and tail lamps when you do this?
Thanks for these easy to understand videos. I hav me a Black Ram 1500. And I just got a drill master polisher. Just trying to get more knowledge before start... any tips
Great vid B! Thanks!
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!!!
I like all your videos. You are always talking about the important facts that occur during the correction process. These clear coats are pretty hard. This one is pretty affected, but i had much worse cases where a 180 mm Rupes blue coarse pad was only partially successful on a 21mm throw orbital. In those cases i rely on my Flex 14-2-150 rotary at higher speeds. Surely a rotary is not for inexperienced people, but it is the only logical solution to fulfill the time consuming process. Sometimes, there is no way to shorten the correction time and you need 12-15 hours or even more to get rid of the majority of the defects on a mid size car, no matter what compound you try to use. From case to case it is different, sometimes even sanding on some points is only partially successful. Anyway, you are forced to finish the correction with some good finishing compound and a orbital, it really adds the needed finishing touch that is not avoidable in order to remove hazing, holograms or swirl marks. The Sonax Cut Max is a top notch compound, i use it the most and it is my favorite cutting compound, but i have to admit that the 3M 09374 is the most aggressive compound i ever tried. Some people doubt it because of its known silicone base that was used in it back in the days, even though 3M nowadays claims that it does not contain any silicone based ingredients in the actual product.
Gracias .. Great job..
I just found your channel recently, great videos! Would you normally completely finish a whole section like you did with the front clip or do you go around whole car in stages? Is there a "normal" way of doing that or is it just preference?
Beautiful!!!
Great videos, could you also include on your videos products you use such as compound, polish wax and pads?
Hi brian what is good for protecting the front headlights on a new car? Something from angelwax or gyeon range. Keep up the good work 👍
Great video, nice real world example
Hi Bryan, what protection did you use after the correction?. Thank you. Big fan from Dominican Republic. Love your vids
that was great video very educated.👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Brian! pretty educative and as always, great job 👍
Brian nice step by step processing order!!! Nice job!!! Love the finish!!! Do the customer have the understand of car washes and what they can do ??
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. he does... great customer.
@maxfriedenberger8043
6 жыл бұрын
thanks..........
I recently paint corrected my first mercedez. Jesus christ that clear coat was hard!!
Sorry if I'm repeating a question , but do u clay b4 compounding ? TY & great work mad skill
I love black when it's finished,it's the most beautiful out of all the colors,but,it's the hardest to work on,great job brian,by the way how long was process,just curious,thanks brian,from sunny California 74°
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Sunny ! Sure rub it in! 😁 16 hours for me... Iam old...and its an SUV! 😂
@groundcontrol6876
6 жыл бұрын
16 hours sounds very reasonable. That was not a tiny Honda CRX and the defects were pretty bad.
What’s your process for cleaning the black paint around and inside the emblems. In the beginning they look gray and discolored but on the finished video they were clean and matched the paint. If you have a video I might have missed it, just pass me the link please. Thanks for the videos they have helped a lot!!
Hi Brian, Just finished a 2004 black s Class. Funny I found angelwax resurrection and a rupes yellow. Sounds that it shouldn’t work but finish was amazing.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Hey... whatever gets the job done my friend!
Would you recommend sonax perfect finish and a yellow rupes pad for minor cobwebs and water spots on a brand new car? Never ran thru wash tunnel but seems that dealer washed car with less than ideal towels. Not looking for 100% just at least 80% before I use a good sealant
Hey Brian, what kind of protection do you put on the vehicle after you finish waxing it?
Man great job ..god bless . How many pads did you use on this SUV?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 4 pads.. one for each side, top, front/back.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
I use Poorboys pad cleaner and forced air to clean pad after each pass.
How long did this whole vehicle and all the processes take you complete from start to finish? Please and thank you. Asking for the current Mercedes job I'm currently doing. Thank you
Do you do both steps back to back before moving to the next panel? How long did the complete job take? Another happy customer!
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
When I have my routine planned start to finish... I will then proceed, step by step. I dont want polishers, cords and pads laying everywhere.
@Eurogloss
5 жыл бұрын
How many hours did you spend on this car Brian ? One day, two days, 15 hours what's your time frame with cars in this condition?
if you would of used rotary polisher think that would of given better results?
Looks great. How do you handle the badges and emblems? Do you tape them off or do you go over or around them?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Badges come off... behind door handles done by hand.
@felixf5211
6 жыл бұрын
I do the area behind the door handles by hand, too. Always want to ask the owner if it's really so hard not to scrape his nails against the paint. A personal peeve of sorts.
I've noticed my clay bar leaves residue on my 2018 Audi Q7 vs many other cars I've used it on. I understand the Audi clear coat must be a hard clear and it acts very differently from Toyota, GM, etc clear coat. Any tips on this? I'm using a clay luber and I've tried both a blue and red clay. My Audi is stubborn to work on which is why I haven't done a full polish on it particularly in the rear.
Hey Brian, thanks for the informative videos! Question, would you recommend sonax cut max for cutting and then finish off with sonax perfect finish although it’s an AIO? thanks again
I did a similar thing on a black car. Could remove only 80% of the swirls. Wasn’t able to remove the very deep ones, even I did many passes with a heavy rubbing compound (3M) and a woolpad (3M) which is a very abrasive combination. Is that possible? Any ideas how to proceed? Possibly wetsand it? Another question: Don’t we need to wipe off the oil components in the compound with isopropanol or something similar? Or else the swirls might just be temporary covered and we don’t see the real result after the polishing. Or do I get something wrong here?
Hi there.Can you help me with a question?Im going to do a paint correction in a european car Citroen.Its a black car just like this and the gold is to remove 60-65% of the deffects,a bunch of them caused by car washes with machines.Can i use a soluction of ipa after de correction to apply a ipa soluction or i need to by a true paint cleaner cause im going to use car pro reload to give some protection?
I just bought a new black Honda Pilot. Will a single stage polish take away the random minor swirls?
Brian would also like to see how you do the black behind door handles and the emblem when using a cutting compound??
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Emblems come off... behind door handles be hand.
@maxfriedenberger8043
6 жыл бұрын
thanks..............
Do you go around and compound the whole car and then go around and polish? Or do you compound and polish section by section?
I have a brand new, 6 miles black civic type R with some crazy swirls just above the black bumper. Would love to talk offline about how I can go about tackling this.
How can one learn which type of paint (hard, soft) each car has. Something I haven’t been able to figure out in my few years detailing.
Another very impressive video Bri what speed did you have on the polisher please I have a Rupes some guys say speed 3 is enough however others use 5 & 6 ,what’s your opinion Daver the UK
@apexdetail85
5 жыл бұрын
For me...the 3rd speed setting. That is mid speed.
I have an SQ5 with Methos Black Metallic paint. Is there anything I need to be aware of with this type of paint finish when removing swirls or paint correction? Let’s assume I have all the right tools and supplies. Do you have any training videos on this paint type?
Nice work brian. Out of curiosity, why not the rotary for the compounding stage if you knew you were going to follow up with a polish? Little bit less vibration for such a large task and a bit more defect removal.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
I would personally cut with the rotary... but keep in mind, beginners asked for the video. They only use DA polishers.😞
@erikdatadeen134
6 жыл бұрын
Apex Detail you and me both my friend lol love my dewalt!
have you tried maxshine pads?
Im starting off with a rotary buffer and a wool pad... a little wetter and a little slower..keeping it old school...lol!
Did you go over the head lights and tail lights the same way?
Wow - incredible results! I was honestly expecting you to go for the rotary because of the Mercedes hard clear coat! Impressive results with a DA and orange pad. Any reason you went for the DA instead? Also, could you post a link to your spot lighting?
@apexdetail85
5 жыл бұрын
I switch polishers every video or two just to keep it interesting. Cutting here at the shop is done with the rotary.😃
@apexdetail85
5 жыл бұрын
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Out of curiosity why use a polishing pad with the wax instead of a finishing pad?
My question is, how does it look under the sun? Swirling from the polishing wheel?
Can you get the same results doing it by hand.
A 2 step correction for "swirl removal" with that bad of marring/scratches and not use a more aggressive compound/pad ?, in the same amount of time (16 hours) I could easily do a full correction and taken 98% of the deep scratched damage out with Scholl Concepts S3 Gold XXL & then jeweled with S40 finish. If you were truly just trying to remove "swirls marks", their are a couple amazing one step paint correction products, s20 black in particular that finish down fine enough to then coat with SIO2. If you don't believe me just ask the manufactures of Porsche, Lamborghini, Bugatti, McLaren, Mercedes Benz who they recommend for paint finishing.
What was the orange pad you used?
What do you put on tires to make them black.
VW paint on my 2014 Jetta is so easy to scratch with even a clean finger tip or towel when drying. I recently left hologram scratches on my roof by doing the baggie test, even when I had just washed the car. I couldn't believe it, last time I do that. But VW paint is still quite hard vs Hondas for example.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
I just had a Jaguar like that. Sneeze in its direction and you scratch it! 😂
@adamc.7795
6 жыл бұрын
Good lord. I don't understand the fragility of modern clear coats. I hope some day soon they're more resistant to scratches at the very least. Can't be too expensive to do once they figure out the right formula.
Wouldnt HD speed do that in one step??,great job
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
A one step would not cut deep enough.. would have to start with HD Cut Plus.
what is the brand and model of polisher?
So if you protected this with Angelwax dark, is it worth topping that with enigma wax or vice versa?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
It was protected with another product. But when I use Enigma... its by itself. I take advantage of what that wonderful wax can provide.
my cars never see a car wash. especially when I'm stopped at a light and see them drying the cars with dirty towels and leaning over the hood with zippered hoodies and jackets.
Brian what did you end up using for protection on top? Wax/sealant?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
QP ON 2.0
@petr7884
6 жыл бұрын
Apex Detail, thanks Brian, great work. I had a 350 like that not too long ago, it sure let’s great when it’s all done but a lot of work.
@kratos9174
5 жыл бұрын
Apex Detail Brian I know is a old video but I doing my Bmw 2008 and I believe is a hard paint or clear cause like these is a Germany , I will do your combo now same people say final polish , then IPA wax then sealing, other say seal then wax what should I do? Thank so much
Just curious how long it took to complete and how much you charged the customer. Thanks for another great video.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
16 hours. Pricing is subjective
@pappajohn8912
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I'm curious why Ardex didn't make the top of the list? You video review of the product was a strong positive.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Roger Baron Hard at it is very good... the top 3 finish much further, cutting down on steps and time. Time is money.
@rogerbaron9514
6 жыл бұрын
You did a finishing polish with this one which sits at the top. The contest isn't the best 1 step.
So I have no problem getting my black car to the condition of the one you’ve just done. My struggle is getting it better than that. The rids in my car stick out like a sore thumb to me even though I get a ton of compliments on the paint. Can you make a video that shows 85-90% correction?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
I can put it like this... anything harsher than swirls will be taken care of with wet sanding.
@gmitch239
6 жыл бұрын
Apex Detail I was hoping that wasn’t the answer
How much time this correction took you?
Brian, do you think short throw machines finish out better? I've heard several people make that argument over the years.
@apexdetail85
5 жыл бұрын
It certainly makes it a bit easier to do so.
What does it mean if a paint clear coat is hard or soft and how to tell if it hard or soft? Thanks.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
I will do a detailed video on which vehicles have which clears... and why.
@makinamati
5 жыл бұрын
@@apexdetail85 ok
Somehow when I did my dads Mercedes CLA 2015 I still can see swirls after using lambswool with 3M Fast cut XL followed by 3M machine polish with a dual oscilating machine with yellow foam pads. Speed 2 on a flex 603 rotating, speed 3 on the dual oscilating one.
@apexdetail85
5 жыл бұрын
Everything looks good...try switching from 3M to say....Sonax Cut Max and Perfect Finish.
@fd3s64
5 жыл бұрын
Will do! Should I use Perfect Finish with the dual oscillating machine?
Wat speed do u put it on
Too difficult to find Angelwax Redemption & Perfect Polish in USA.....WestCoast Dealer does not have inventory. Guess I should stay with Sonax or more mainstream brand names...This is for my 2012 Vette Inferno Orange Garage Queen.
How do you know when a clear coat paint is soft or hard?
@enduringpursuit
3 жыл бұрын
One way that I use is a test section. Start with least aggressive polish and pad combinations. Do a few passes. If it yields little to no change, go up in aggressiveness. Soft clear coats correct very fast, with minimal pressure. Hard clear coats might require heavy cut compounds with microfiber pads (on a DA polisher) just to get out swirling. My wifes ford has the hardest damn clear in history haha. I used meguires D-300 correcting cream and microfiber cutting pads and found I had to do multiple passes to get out even mild defects.
Which polisher should I buy first for a beginner
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend this one...www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=apexdetail-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=ef0ba9bc06b011add0dacd41f68c19cd&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=automotive&keywords=MAXSHINE%2015%20mm%20polisher
Wow! Can you do mine next?
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Mikey P Absolutely!!
Why do they call some polishing pads "heavy" polishing?
What did you spray @5:18 ?
@briandraper7630
4 жыл бұрын
IPA.
Brian for a beginner that is so difficult to use Sonax .....
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
Actually...Sonax makes it easier for a beginner.
With todays Touchless Car Washes, there is just no excuse to destroy the clear coat on your vehicle.
@apexdetail85
6 жыл бұрын
We really do not have many options for touchless in the area.
@rogerbaron9514
6 жыл бұрын
There's one 1 mile from my house that doesn't touch the paint.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!! AMAZING JOB!!!
Can you please use a cheap DA to show removing swirls. Man it's killing me right now 😔 10 year Navy vet trying to do the detail thing. All I can afford is this cheap shot. If you have a used flex 15mm or 21 mm I'll buy it from you. Need help brotherhip
If you're going to do two steps, why not use a MF pad at first?
HAND CAR WASHES ONLY NOW!!!
Car washes aka swirl factories.
Your doing a correction pull the scratches out , grab your rotary !! Why charge the customer Twice !! Pull the scratches !.
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