"I made friends" - and just like that, we lost one more great programmer.

@AndddLegacy

4 жыл бұрын

truer words never spoken

@Mephitinae

4 жыл бұрын

@Omar Ignacio Silvestrini Athlete and musician aren't essential jobs, but a programmer is. Select few are simply allowed to pursue such dreams because the majority are willing to do all the "real" work.

@toasterr4238

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mephitinae not really. The market demand for Olympic athletes and top tier musicians is on par with top programmers. (programmer in a loose sense, only like CTOs and such will come close) Entertainment is important for a diverse economy and a productive workforce.

@Mephitinae

4 жыл бұрын

@@toasterr4238 There's a "market" for a lot of things that society doesn't need in order to function. Music is, and should always be a pursuit of passion. People would do it even if it paid nothing.

@leeham6230

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mephitinae Athletes ARE essential. People need distractions.

He wasn't a savant. He was one of the kids fortunate enough to have a parent who gave him the opportunity to learn and grow. This isn't to say that he was a failure, but rather that his dad was a good parent. Good for the two of them.

@nil0bject

6 ай бұрын

spot on

*_This is really a blast from the past. When they said one day a computer will be so small it will fit on a desk, I didn't believe it. When they said within 20 years every home will have a PC in it, I said no way. It's great to see this. I personally still have & love my library of books that range from the late 1800s to modern-day. I'll always prefer a solid book in my hand when reading. Thanks, David. Your the best_*

@bfkc111

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, what should books even be replaced with. I mean even an E-Reader should be as similar to a real book as possible (with its "E-Ink" for proper contrast), and most stuff on the internet is just summaries or things of particular fields. Aside from the hopeless, useless babble which endlessly goes in circles and seems to degrade yet become more arrogant over time. Books are irreplaceable, be it fiction (still the "blueprint" or real place for proper narrative art) or certain theoretical works or treatises etc.

@hodgey7183

4 жыл бұрын

We had an opportunity to buy a home computer with an interest free loan from work. My reaction, who the F*** needs a computer at home? Ans. Everyone

@WilliamParkerer

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm, you read books but spell you're as your?

@tuttifrutti9698

4 жыл бұрын

I want to take a look a your library heh

@bryancorts5389

Жыл бұрын

Before books was hieroglyphics. Another style I swear and way of thinking!

'my daughters think I'm a big dork" - sums up Fatherhood accurately

@drdr76

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter who you are, even if you are famous, your kids will think this way about their parents.

@odar9729

4 жыл бұрын

This is good actually...it’s called the “eww” factor...this keeps you safe...

@wetlettuce4768

4 жыл бұрын

My Dad's mullet and moustache from the early 1980s still makes me chuckle.

@calisongbird

3 жыл бұрын

@@odar9729 ewwww. Do you realize what you’re actually saying, by “it keeps you safe”? Meaning if daughters didn’t view their dads as dorks then the dads would be tempted to molest them??

@odar9729

3 жыл бұрын

@@calisongbird I should clarify. It’s a primitive factor. The “eww” factor keeps people safe. Safe refers to having the “eww” emotions. “You” as universal everyone. But I can see I wrote it wrong. I wasn’t referring the context your saying. But like eww to bad food. I don’t know how you thought “dads tempted to molest”? But I’m glad the daughter has the eww bc that means she will stay healthy and be cautious. So no worries I wasn’t implying such. Today I learned a lesson in writing sentences. Thank you

Being a programmer in the 70s potentially could have made him a billionaire by the 90s.

@SIRTACONATOR007

4 жыл бұрын

there's more to life than just money

@jonrad5

4 жыл бұрын

tcl yeah oxygen

@mmille10

4 жыл бұрын

Eh, it's not all it's cracked up to be, as far as the money. A relative few programmers become billionaires, because they become business executives. It's a popular misconception that programming makes you wealthy. The wealthy ones left programming to become top-level executives in what were small-cap, which became mid-cap companies. Most programmers make at best what we call a middle income. I was one of them. Some make upper-middle income. Some of them end up in poverty, after having an unsuccessful career in software engineering. I've seen some of those. It's a very risky line of work, because particularly with the booms and busts that happen in the tech industry, you can be out of work in your field for a few years. I know, because that happened to me. Outsourcing can kill people's careers in it, as well. A lot of people wash out when this stuff happens, and retrain for something else.

@danielfronc4304

4 жыл бұрын

And when his life is empty and without pleasure this rich adult computer genius would cap himself. Let's face it, a lifetime in computer science development and advancement is made for only two types, the Gates-like nerd to the core and the manipulative, controlling type A obsessive compulsive businessman like Steve Jobs.

@samsung-eh4dv

4 жыл бұрын

@tcl that’s something a broke person would say.

As Paul Harvey used to say: "and now you know the rest of the story...." Thanks for your work on this!

@santaclause4285

4 жыл бұрын

And now you know your wasting your life.......

I was like, is 1979 over 40 years ago?! Then I remembered I was born in '79... I'm turning 41 this year. And now I feel old *and* stupid. smh

@TheMichelex20

4 жыл бұрын

Intrograted 🤣🤣😂 I did the same thing.

@mystra13

4 жыл бұрын

Geeze, same

@mrcomenttoe2009

4 жыл бұрын

😊 I was born in 1969

@tempesttking5715

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 it's ok. Time flys❤️

@BenHall289

4 жыл бұрын

And yet you express yourself like a 17 year old.

David Hoffman isn’t just into film He’s also into investigating and tracking people down 😂

@domesticatedape9425

4 жыл бұрын

Definition of a great film maker/lover, Investigate and Pursue

@xxxanonxxx

4 жыл бұрын

David Hoffman is a based film maker

@bruceschneider4928

4 жыл бұрын

He's standing behind you right now.

@WillBlindYouWithLight

4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@badreality2

4 жыл бұрын

Other people talked him down. David Hoffman interviewed him, because we, his viewers, were curious as to why this boy (now man), never pursued a career as a coder, and it piqued his curiosity, too.

They say he looked like a dork, but they probably think the Stranger Things kids are adorable 😂😭

@jesseomollo9405

4 жыл бұрын

He does look like stranger things kid...

@deadchannel5018

4 жыл бұрын

He looked like Finn Wolfhard when he was younger.

@colossusforbin5484

4 жыл бұрын

Movies/TV shows always seem to make things 'cool' that once weren't. Look at comic books and Comic Con.

@Steve_305

4 жыл бұрын

I would of said that's Andy from Childs Play

@Galidorquest

4 жыл бұрын

Imo, he looks normal by 00's standards, minus the tucked-in shirt and the short-shorts... People forget that mop-top Beatles hair was revived as *emo* hair in the 00's, and trendy Gangsta Rappers like Trick Daddy made sports jerseys popular from the Mid 90's to the Mid 00's. (During the peak of basketball, Hip Hop consumer culture and gang wars, when numbers signified fake or real gang affiliation... And then mop-top Beatles hair slowly died off when Justin Bieber went big in the year 2010... Dylann Roof was (sadly) the final nail in the coffin for mop-top Beatles hair in Western countries, although it's still cool with Asians because of tradition and K Pop stars.) History repeats itself. Fashion trends are almost always eventually resuresurrected or reincarnated in a different form -- The beard & undercut hipster-look we're seeing now for the last 8 years is a rehash of the 1970's Bob James look, but usually with a taper fade and thin chin shaved. Hipster fashion will *definitely* look dorky in the future if it doesn't already... Kids are even calling those lame hipster undercuts "combovers" nowadays, and I find that hilarious since combovers were typically sported by balding men in their mid-life crisis, like Al from the movie Toy Story 2... lol

I remember my father brought home an Apple II from work in 1984 and my brother exclaimed "You got a computer!!!" My first question as I ran into the room to see what the fuss was about was "What's a computer?" I had never heard that word before. I had never seen one. I was 8. I instantly took to it and spent hours loading programs from disks and learning how to program in BASIC. I probably used that computer more than anyone else in the household. One of my favorite programs was Print Shop. I'd constantly make pictures and homemade cards for the whole family. I wasn't allowed to play video games, but when I discovered computer games were ok...oh lordy! I was in heaven! I'm female, but my dad encouraged me every moment he got. No one ever suggested computers were a 'boy' thing, for which I'm very grateful. My dad and I were the only tech-minded people in our family, so we bonded over computers and Star Trek. We'd take father/daughter trips to Fry's for fun. In college I learned how to build a computer from spare parts. I even majored in Engineering for awhile. Eventually I went on to become a Molecular Biologist and Geneticist, then a professional musician and composer. I do all my own recording engineering. I love manipulating sounds in the DAW and yes, I love using Photoshop to make artwork, too. And I owe it all to that big ol' Apple II with the noisy dot matrix printer and the support of my parents. I guess, in hindsight now, it's really amazing that my mother never discouraged me. She had a lot of rules about what was "appropriate" for little girls to do or not do, but computers were never on the 'no' list.

@juniperwildflowers

3 жыл бұрын

Print Shop! Everyone at school thought I was such a nerd because I was the only one printing my book reports- complete with a cover sheet with a fancy design I made from Print Shop. Lol.

@treintrien9918

2 жыл бұрын

Are you me? LOL I remember when I brought in my first Print Shop homework I had to do it again in writing. In hindsight it's a big laugh, but i was SO MAD at the time! I had inserted basic graphics and even made some 'art' to make it better.

I can’t believe you found them

@earthtantra

4 жыл бұрын

Agree 🙌🏼😳

@Theomite

4 жыл бұрын

It gives us hope for the others we're trying to find from those 1989 videos.

@santaclause4285

4 жыл бұрын

He can find anyone, that is why student loan collectors love him

@SCU3A_S7EVE

3 жыл бұрын

They just had to look in the upside down.

@youngrosco4515

3 жыл бұрын

@@SCU3A_S7EVE LMAO i thought it was will byers

His mother embodied every single mother out there: “Oh cuz your dad such a SAINT! I Bust my-“

His daughters need to appreciate the greatness of his moppy haircut and ‘70s clothes!

@yuvalkapellner2551

4 жыл бұрын

They will but very late. when they are older and they have their own kids. Seems like his daughters are currently very narrow minded which despite any degree they are holding doesn't make them very smart.

@SilkyMilkyOriginal

3 жыл бұрын

'60s and '70s fashion and hairstyles are the best and a lot better than today's.

@geraldjohnson4013

3 жыл бұрын

I remember the 70s with fondness. Great music and great cars but horrible fashion.

@aVeryBmovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I agree 100%!

@mutantcyborg9185

3 жыл бұрын

I really do appreciate short shorts and crop tops and being young and about as skinny as 70s males I wear them.

Short answer: He discovered Girls. The End.

@salehmansour1

4 жыл бұрын

He discovered cats!

@MustObeyTheRules

4 жыл бұрын

Human biology just takes over, bye free will 😎

@ricolaw1033

4 жыл бұрын

My downfall too 😂😂😂😂

@Pllayer064

4 жыл бұрын

Damn sucks to achieve nothing but also not get any girls.

@damonwashington

4 жыл бұрын

I discovered the Victoria's Secret catalog 🤣

I love when dads are so humble and encouraging to their sons. My dad always shot down my dreams. Once I have a son I’ll be like the father in his video. Edward Van Halen, despite his faults was also like that with his son and we have Wolfgang to thank for that bands second wind

@paradoxstudios6639

7 ай бұрын

Nothing like the power of negativity,,,lol..my family always tried to encourage me to do something, and when I finally attempted to do it, they discouraged me and said it was to hard and impossible and tedious and you'll tire out and spend all your resources.

This is so frickin' cool, David! Glad to know he's doing alright. Edit: Glad to know BOTH of them are doing alright!

Love this video. There is a pattern when there is so much attention to a child prodigy very early in life. They normally do not develop to achieve the anticipated expectation. Sometimes, it is important to protect your child from the camera very early in life so that they can grow to their fullest potential.

@kozmeetorez

4 жыл бұрын

So true, it’s quite common. Most people I know that haven’t had kids always said they want their child to be a genius. And I always say that that is not a guarantee to success.

I have wondered “what happened to that kid” at least 100 times since first seeing that video haha. Love your videos!!!

Fantastic to catch up with Jay and his father after many years. Many of us wondered. Thank you.

I am so happy that you found these two. I have been trying to look them up for a while now. I love that you were able to interview them again 41 years later. This is awesome.

As a father of five year old, this serves me as a reminder to not be an overzealous father. I don't claim to know all and don't want to pass judgements on the prodigies father and sure hope they are all happy in their lives. I just hope I do good by my son and serve as a beacon to him.

A lot of parents were like that in the youth of GenX: fairly hands-off (in that they let kids have their own world) but very loving and letting you try different things you were into. It was a good parenting style for sure! And a special kudos to Jay's Mom! Thank you, Mr. Hoffman.

I got married in 1992 at 19. My wife hated computers and said she will never touch them. I told her she will not have a choice, since she is a nurse. One day everything will be computerized. There will be no cable, all TV will be over the internet when it gets faster. Just download or watch a video over it. Well I was wrong about the no cable. My wife always uses a computer now hooked up to our main TV for all of our entertainment. She does Ancestry, Facebook, watches KZread, and we don’t have cable. I have always been into computers, since my first one the Commodore Vic 20 in the summer of 1980. Hooked up to the internet with AOL in 1993 with 5 free hours a month. Was in the beta program with Cincinnati Bell being one of the first 50 families to have DSL with a 768 KB connection. Went from downloading 2 megs that took 14 minutes to DSL that took 30 seconds. What a big leap that was. DSL also freed up the phone line.

Ray Kurzweil ‘The Singularity’ came to mind here. I loved how this came full circle. It’s a great story and I’m sure their mother is looking down very proud. May she rest in eternal peace. You could tell they were a good family and I’m happy to see them both healthy and happy. I’m sure his daughters are proud too!! Great work.

The interview has finally arrived! I'm glad to hear from them (and the wonderful mother, by proxy) and that they're doing well. It is really nice to hear how she pushed her son and husband to a new field. Plus, I imagine staying up to date on technology is hard. Also, I did not expect when we saw a wider view of the father's room that it'd be filled with rifles, haha!

I find it interesting in all these old videos people were more articulate even in a casual interview. They rarely used "um" and "ah" or any other filler words.

@JohnFekoloid

3 жыл бұрын

They weren't bombarded with voluminous media on a daily basis. They had time to think.

@HoleDweller

3 жыл бұрын

Now all I hear are all the AHs and UMs. Thanks...

@blockpart2184

3 жыл бұрын

Its amazing. We need to fix up 21 century people hah

I can't be the only teenager who understands why what he was doing was impressive in 1979. I've always been interested in computers, and when people are interested in something they usually seem to know the history of it, so maybe that's why?

I appreciate the update. I also appreciate the open honesty of these men. Thanks, David.

Great follow-up. FWIW I was this same kid in my town and ended up working at Apple, for 25 years or so now. But similarly there were a few years in college that I had to take a break. 😎

@dirtisbetterthandiamonds

4 жыл бұрын

Me too..gifted and advanced classes and ended up at Xerox. I've been a farmer for almost 20 years now and so much happier though!

@stephanipeloquin4631

3 жыл бұрын

@@recoveringsoul755 that's fascinating. I felt that way in medicine...

Something that I really miss from that time period up to the 90s was how simple programming was. We all thought it was complicated back then, but compared to today, it has become much more complex.

@timothykeith1367

4 жыл бұрын

@@recoveringsoul755 Machine code or assembler too

@ladyofthecentury

4 жыл бұрын

I remember that I took coding in middle school in the end of the '80s. It was so much easier. But of course I thought it was hard then

@lumpytapioca5062

4 жыл бұрын

​@@timothykeith1367 and COBOL, Fortran, APL, PL/1, and dozens of other, proprietary languages.

@OutyMan

3 жыл бұрын

Depends what you're working in. I find it light years easier today. There's higher functions for everything. No need to try and describe something complicated using a convoluted web of "Yes" "No" "Yes" "No".

@surject

3 жыл бұрын

ASM wants to have a word with you...

Your channel is one of the best things I’ve found recently. Internet can be a force of good. All your films are Unpretentious, real and educational. Thank you.

This is why this channel is in the KZread 1% for quality of content.

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

4 жыл бұрын

I wish that were true for KZread. I think that those of you who watch my material feel that way but unfortunately that is a small group. David Hoffman-filmmaker

Thank you David, appreciate your work!

He is like 99% of software engineering and computer science graduates

the interview with the shop owner was super insightful as someone living in the present and seeing what folks envisioned the future as in the past. my father was a truck driver, and i always wondered how difficult his job was before even mapquest was a thing. i would love to do an interview like this was filmed, cause they asked all the right questions and they got all the right answers. its insanely strange how right they were about the future than they were wrong about it.

I bet he “burned out” in high school........it was the 80’s baby.

@bauhnguefyische667

4 жыл бұрын

Fast Times at Ridgmont High

@Shay-nu7id

4 жыл бұрын

Dude that was my face ..

@HeadNtheClouds

3 жыл бұрын

He burned something 😎

@situated4

3 жыл бұрын

You put your weeeeeed in there, maaaaan.

@karlmuller3690

3 жыл бұрын

@@situated4 - I was 16 in 1979, and the only places that had computers, were the big government Departments, and at the Banks, but not every Bank branch of every bank, all over the country. I live in Australia, by the way.

I felt like I waited so long for this. Your channel is amazing, man.

I'm 41 and grew up with the NES on the mid 80s in fact I was the first kid on the block to have one and it was "Amazing" on how many friends I never knew I had wanting to stop by and play when word got out. Anywho, I was watching my friends 10 year old boy a few weeks ago while they were out and I wanted to show him the NES on what I grew up with. So I hooked it up and had a few hundred games in my collection to pick out. The kid looks at me and says "Man you're old, my grandpa has one of these. These are old! So you must be old too" He's a little smart mouth kid but a good kid. I just stood there wanting to laugh which I chuckled and gave him the eye stare for a few haha. He actually had fun playing since I have all the good games and told him stories about when I was his age and showed him pictures of my friends and I. He made fun of our hair and clothes. I told him "Don't laugh, you're kids will make fun of you're hair cut and clothes style just like their kids will make fun of theirs and that's how it goes" this video reminded me of that. BTW, his parents told me that he now only wants me to watch him from now on, they said "Because I have all the cool games" I thought that was cool.

I was the same age, looked almost the same, and often wore my yellow football jersey and, always, the stripped dolphin shorts. The late '70's was a great time to be a kid.

@gumdokim

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I was 8 in 79' and lol wanted the exact same hairstyle as Mindy from Mork and Mindy.

@luciehanson6250

3 жыл бұрын

Dolphin shorts? Now I'm educated?

@josephconsoli4128

3 жыл бұрын

@@luciehanson6250 Honestly, we didn't call them that back then. At least I didn't. Only learned that phrase in recent times. It's all kids wore in the summer.

@luciehanson6250

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephconsoli4128 Never thought a thing about the short shorts on basketballers, etc. They seem so odd to see now.

@josephconsoli4128

3 жыл бұрын

@@luciehanson6250 Yeah, people say that in the '70's "everyone looked good". Kids and adults both wore short-shorts, tight jeans, tight shirts, cut-offs, etc. That along with the "big hair" styles made everyone look good!

He didn't need to fear AI in the future. Just the year 2020

The clothes were typical 70s wear at the time. Even the clothes I wore looked the same at that time. Memories.....

@taoist32

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Gibson Mine too. That shirt looks very similar to the one I wore as a kid in the 70’s.

@wetlettuce4768

4 жыл бұрын

Scary thing is my parents dressed me up like this in the early 90s, what I dork I was lol.

@celticlightning9703

4 жыл бұрын

@@wetlettuce4768 Nah!! You were just before the style repeats itself. Lol!!! Back then I don't remember Nike and the rest. Converse was big. Like Nike is today

@stefankaiser3354

3 жыл бұрын

I had similiar shirts. And I grew up in Germany! lol Oh, and I would still wear those today. They're classic👌🏼

@celticlightning9703

3 жыл бұрын

@@stefankaiser3354 that's funny I would too. I have a pair of jeans from my teen years that I keep in drawer . They don't make anymore so I just keep there for the memories. Those I tracked down on internet.😂

Thank you for uploading this, keep making these awesome videos 📹

Thanks for tracking down these guys. I love finding out what happened to these people. I'd love to see what happened to that Boston accent guy.

This was just terrific to see; I remember the original clip and wondered at the time where he was now.

Back then the idea of a smartphone was something that science fiction barely could imagine

Lol, the guy looks just like his dad back in the '79 video! 😆 🤣 😂

8:20 That's one mystery solved.... now we got to find THIS GUY

@Herfinnur

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly my reactions. His thoughts are so spot on

@stephanipeloquin4631

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!!

This is one of the most underrated KZread channels.

This 1979 video was the reason I subscribed to your channel.

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying this. I hope you found the new one satisfying. David Hoffman-filmmaker

@codeblue2532

4 жыл бұрын

David Hoffman : where can I see the original video (?) 1979 ?

Oh how I remember this time .. I'm still pretty much an amateur on the computer, but a lot less intimidated by them than I was back then. Classic material.

He discovered Girls and Beer. Probably at the same time..

@seagrey75

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe even more than beer...

@lumpytapioca5062

4 жыл бұрын

@@seagrey75 Nah, probably just alcohol. If it was hallucinogenics, he's still be programming, doing CG work.

@alexalexander5628

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@youtube-ventura

3 жыл бұрын

These were the Reagan years, so you know there was some good Thai stick or sticky skunk buds, too.

It’s so awesome to know the rest of the story. I’m sorry that people tracked them down though. That’s creepy. With exception of your investigative skills David. We honor parents that always give their kids the opportunity to be more. This is fun. It would be interesting to do interviews right now when times are more uncertain than in recent history (40 years) and ask what the future looks like.

Thank you for the update, Mr. Hoffman!

David, thanks for bringing this full circle by tracking down and interviewing Jeff and Jay! I saw your original film but this is like going to a surprise party in the future except that the future is now! How exciting! ❤️

Thank you David, that was fascinating. I watched both parts.... It' s amazing to see 41 years condensed down to several minutes.

impressive work David!

It’s a wonderful peak back to and you can feel the peace from that time - Just lovely thank you

This is so wonderful 👏 🙌🏽We're all honoring your mother now too!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽 Thank you Mr. David Hoffman!

This was cool David. Well done. Full circle.

This was the best “Where are they now?” Thanks again David for great content!

This is a terrific video David. I have two sons, twins, that took off like rockets after we bought a TI 99 home computer in 1980. My son is now building a computer with components I can't even recognize now. He has also built three 3d printers that he runs simultaneously. This may be nothing to some, but to me, he is brilliant. He works as a computer engineer in the auto component industry.

Thank you for making this video, David!💖

Thank you sooo much for a follow up!! It is so rare someone does this!

To go full circle it would be amazing to get his daughter on there, and have a similar set up interview to the one from 79.

Bless you for this, Mr. Hoffman. I think I'm about a year older than "that kid" and I definitely was neck-deep into programming, at the time the TRS-80 (Model I, naturally). This video put a huge smile on my face. Thank you again.

He says he’s not as good of a father but he’s still a good man. The fact he’s able to look back at what he has said in the past and change his mind or grow his perceptions attests to that.

What a shame that he stopped using the computer. What a rare position that kid was and what a futurist his father was.

Seeing this video takes me back. I was 8 years old in '79. My father worked as a programmer when I was growing up. I was learning Basic early on myself. When I went onto college I didn't bother to further my interest in computers. I had other intersest. I went on to work in Finance. What amazes me though nowadays you can't get around not knowing Tech. It can be death of you in the current work environment. I do miss the simple days when people would interact. Now, it's all through your phone or online. Loved this video! Thanks for sharing.

Such a great story! Wonderful family story! Thanks for posting this update!

Wow can't thank you so much for this wonderful footage and I hope all is well my friend.

I was 14 years old in 1979. That year my father bought his first computer, a Texas Instruments TRS-80. He was a university professor and used it for his statistical simulations. I learned to program BASIC on it, but never became obsessed with computers (mainly because my father would hardly let anyone touch his computer). When I decided to do a B.A. in economics, my parents were so upset (I was supposed to become an engineer or architect) that they insisted I take programming courses in the summer, which I duly did for several years. After my economics degree I did an engineering degree (I'm a now a professional engineer), and my first jobs were essentially programming jobs, but I would get terrible head-aches. I had a talent for programming, but would become far too focused on it. I haven't done any programming in over 20 years now.

Thank you for all you do. Your archives are a treasure and I'm so glad you're posting them. And this video is such a cool follow-up.

Amazing, great work. Now to find the kid who made the 8mm movies.

Thank you David for these glimpses back in time. It's a great reminder of where we came from what thoughts were back then and a little help in reconciling how we have gotten where we are now.

Wow his dad looks great after 41 years later. He only aged like 20-25 years lol.

@uts4448

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought! He must’ve taken great care of his health. He looked healthy back then. I was expecting him to be shaky and have a hard time talking but he looks great!

I find the burn out factor with kids interesting. When I was a kid I did a lot of sports. I did really well in them. But junior year of high school, I completely burned out. Something I used to do for multiple hours per day - I completely stopped. I started using the family computer more. I got a degree in computer science. And have been doing software development for the past 20 years now. Whenever I met people after that burnout, they were surprised I used to be so into sports.

@bryancorts5389

Жыл бұрын

I went from a professional gymnastics to mental gymnastics 20 years apart from each other. Now the damn does it's own mental gymnastics. Damn harry your fukin WIZARD!

Wonderful catch up with the father & son . The son is only a few years older than me and I remember in the early 80's my friends saw me as some wizard because I used to write programs in BASIC for my Atari 400 ,the school's BBC Model B and friends' Sinclair ZX81, Spectrum , Commodore 64 & Vic 20 .. At 51, I'm a computer Dunce lol .

Wow, he looks lile the kids from Stranger Things. It's amazing how accurate that show is with fashion, timeline, and setting.

That's so cool 😎! I saw your first video and I recognized the little guy. Great video sir! Thank you for the update!

Haha! Fantastic! So glad you guys finally all got caught up, great to see everyone now looking well and healthy (especially considering we're still in the midst of COVID at time of posting!) Great stuff - thanks David 🙂✌️ (and Jay, and Dad AND Mum ... Or Mom as you'd say) 😁

I remember this 'kid', wow time flies, it's really cool to see what he was up to and how life went for him.

David, I am so thankful to you for your work. It is history being recorded as it happens, which history books do not do because they are all written in retrospect. God bless you. I hope many young people find your work for many years to come. ❤❤❤

I definitely didn’t think the story was going to go this way! I thought Jay would have been a computer geek to this day! It makes sense that he got burned out, but I think it’s a really unique story and so interesting to take a step back into time and see the perspective of the computer world/technology in the late 70’s. And it was really interesting to see Jay and his families perspective on it. I think it’s funny that the mom thought the husband was such a dork and didn’t deserve the credit for being such a cool dad, LOL! Gotta love the realness in that!

I spent a few years as a Robotic Technician and I can say that robotics and CNC have eliminated a lot of jobs, and computers and phones have rapidly destroyed the ability for people to socialize face to face. It's disgusting to watch people now whether they're on a date, both transfixed on their phones, or a family reunion where most everyone is on their phones, or just simply sitting around at lunch break at work and everyone is fixated on their devices... I've had enough of watching the decline of civilization... I'm no exception as I sit here filling the void of a lack of social life and companionship. Tech has had a slight benefit to humanity, but is far more detrimental to it

@chasestevens3279

4 жыл бұрын

Couldnt agree more with you As a young man growing up in these times it's tough I do not do social media Meeting a friend or nice woman has become harder as I age and technology isnt helping, only makes us more dull and senseless!

@Pllayer064

4 жыл бұрын

Thank god, if I can't have friends, at least no one else can 👿

@lilysslimefest

4 жыл бұрын

Virtue signaling senses are tingling 😅😂😅

@Storv

4 жыл бұрын

People have always said this about technology. Before smart phones it was tv, and before that it was books that the older generation were afraid would rot the minds of the younger generation. It’s hog wash. We just live in a different world, with different rules and many people have figured out how to use tech as a tool and navigate a social life successfully. People used to ignore each other to read the news paper on public transit, now they do it with phones. I think tech is an easy scapegoat to blame things on. Just my $0.02

@kozmeetorez

4 жыл бұрын

jonathan storvick I can do way the fuck more on my phone then I can with a newspaper, its not a good comparison. The television actually brought families together’s. Everyone came together and sat down in the living room as a unit. Cell phones have individualized everyone.

I literally just watched that clip yesterday from my suggestions, and KZread recommends this to me today. Amazing follow up

Cool retrospective! Now, since I live within an hour or so from Cedar Rapids, I wonder if that building still exists and what purpose it serves over 40 years later.

I really enjoyed this update. Wonderful family, wonderful video.

also went into software, never got a decent job, never got decent pay, no parties, never got dates never got laid hated my life. 40 years later I still live in my mum's basement. Software is a career full of unfulfilled promises that never come to pass. it's a sad lonely pathetic life.

@amgm1996

3 жыл бұрын

youre a good person that what truly matters :)

@mynamejeff8401

3 жыл бұрын

Why did you not get a different job before it was too late.😐

@motherofallemails

3 жыл бұрын

@@mynamejeff8401 because in your mind, it's never too late. Also the early sacrifices you make to go into software, cripple you socially, limiting your ability to branch out into other professions which almost always require "social skills", simply put, you can't. I hate that people interfered and persuaded me to make the mistakes I made going deeper and deeper into my geek bubble of awkwardness, they thought I was going to be a "high flyer", they're gone now, I wish they were still alive so they could see the pathetic result of their interference, even though they believed they were doing it for my future. It leaves you with incurable deep bitterness. Don't let that be you.

@OutyMan

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus, dude.

@motherofallemails

3 жыл бұрын

@john smith trading software for the stock exchanges, City of London, the usual C, C++, Windows NT, Java client/server, IBM RS 6000 (Unix), had unbearable stress with constant negative thoughts about whether I'm worth the salary for the company, even when my work clinched them a major contract. Everyone thought I was rich when actually I was on four figures after tax and transport. Before that I worked on car insurance software, four figure salary, so were the other devs. So much for this elusive six figure salary we got lied about, that's how they lured us into this bullshit, they want talent, so they spread lies about high salaries. BULLSHIT

Your videos are amazing. I'm not even from the US, I'm argentinian but it's so interesting to know what people years ago thought and feel, they way they saw and see the world and how they experience it

"once you start you can't stop" lol he was sooo right! I went back to college in 1987 learning computers and programming in different languages and quickly learned that I want to learn everything these things are capable of!! lol

This is so awesome, David and everyone involved! Great job and thank you for coming on David's KZread and giving the people an update. This is truly wonderful and wholesome to see.

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. David Hoffman - filmmaker

@iwanttosurvive3992

4 жыл бұрын

@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker My pleasure. Thank you for such awesome, positive videos. You are enriching all the lives of people who watch your channel. 🤗

I sometimes forget that you still are a filmmaker. You not only show us the films you made when you were a filmmaker, you still are making them. And you are very very good at it. Thankyou!

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much for your comment. David Hoffman-filmmaker

Can't imagine 50 years from now if I'm still alive, I will say wow this thing should be recorded in history. Nice info btw 👍🏻 love from 🇲🇾

In 1979 I was 9 told too. But learn to code (BASIC) when I was 12. My father give me my first PC, a ZX81 and later a PCJr. Never studied CS, nowadays my life always round about computers. Graduated in BA today I’m full time CS K-12 teacher 😄 and my son started learn to code since his 9. What a life.

Love the videos and thank you for the update. I remember seeing this when you posted it a long time ago.

Nice follow up. I always wondered where the kid ended up. Thanks David. I love your videos.

He discovered social life, good for him! I myself did not get my first computer until 2002. Even throughout the late 90's not all of us had computers.

Thank you for tracking this wonderful family down. Interesting to watch

David, you've done a sterling job here. Your channel is one of the best on KZread. Jeff, it's so great to catch you guys up. Your dad has hardly changed in appearance! And as for you, you were a cool-looking modern kid of the era, so don't let your kids rib you so much! I had the same shorts in the early '80s, but mine were red with blue edging! Very cool. : )

So great to see this followed up. Thank you