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I only regret being unable to attend this debate. What I hope happens is that people who had the privilege to attend will become curious about the Message. It would really be outstanding if someone who didn’t believe in God were to get turned onto the Message just from watching this kind of debate the same way I did.

brother where i can find the full debate of this

I hope anyone can show me any verse in the bible showing the word for word explaination about the trinity.

How can I see the full debate

Ma upload ang full video

Nasan full vid nito?

1 Timothy 3:16 KJV - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

@StringPlunker

5 жыл бұрын

A well known scribal corruption and lie which Trinitarians cannot stop telling. He appeared in a body (NIV) He who was manifested in the flesh (ASV) He who was revealed in the flesh (NASB) Who was manifested in the flesh (NAB) He was manifested in the flesh (RSV) He was revealed in flesh (NRSV) Which was manifested in the flesh (Douey-Rheims) He was revealed in the flesh (NET) He was manifested in the flesh (ESV) Who was manifested in the flesh (NAB)

@Srhyle

Жыл бұрын

@@StringPlunker 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂ Philippians 2:5-6 John 10:30

@StringPlunker

Жыл бұрын

@@Srhyle And that has to do with the topic at hand how?

@Srhyle

Жыл бұрын

@@StringPlunker everything, you're just can't comprehend it.

@StringPlunker

Жыл бұрын

@@Srhyle Yes you are right. I can't comprehend what your post had to do with the translation of 1 Tim 3:16. I suspect you can't comprehend what your post had to do with it either.

ALMIGHTY FATHER YOU ARE MY LORD GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST,d MAN YOU ARE MY SAVIOR Till my Breath Last...🌅

"The doctrine of Christ's divinity is the central Christian doctrine, for it is like a skeleton key that opens all the others." - Peter Kreeft, Ph.D., is a professor of philosophy at Boston College www.peterkreeft.com/topics/christ-divinity.htm "There never was a time when Jesus was preached as anything other than diety and resurrected." - Larry Hertado, eminent Bible scholar, quoted by eminent Bible scholar Gary Habermas

true ..knowing is different from understanding.People know verses even use verses from the Holy Bible but there's no truly understanding ..

the other ptr should be more prepared and equip with more verses supporting the diety of Christ... and whees the full video anyway

nice po...

I feel bad for the guy wearing blue, but the truth must be accepted no matter what.

@psgary6622

8 жыл бұрын

+Grey Sky It could be GOOD for him if it makes him want to reconsider his beliefs and humble himself to listen to the Message, brother/sister. if a person were to choose between a moment’s embarrassment or forever in the lake of fire, most people with any common sense will choose that moment’s embarrassment “for 1,000, Alex (from the game show Jeopardy).”

@greysky6666

8 жыл бұрын

PS Gary​ I couldn't agree more.

@Brideoflamb

8 жыл бұрын

+Grey Sky Why you feel sorry for him? Have you watched the ENTIRE debate or just these EXCEPTS on here?

@Brideoflamb

8 жыл бұрын

+PS Gary What MESSAGE? OH the MESSAGE about the SUPPOSED LAST MESSENGER being Feliix.. lol and the FAR EAST being mentioned in scripture? NEITHER ONE EXISTS anymore in scripture than the CATHOLIC'S ' purgatory!!

@greysky6666

8 жыл бұрын

Eric Pennick​ Dude, you need friends lol.

Im just happy now that i have accepted Jesus is God and become a trinitarian christian.... Never felt happier knowing my Lord Jesus is God and not a creature...

@Angelreyes-ej8pd

3 ай бұрын

did you watch the whole vid?

@ChiSoter_2024

3 ай бұрын

@@Angelreyes-ej8pd I did why?

Why do people add things to the verses in the Bible? I know that the Trinity is not in the Scriptures and I also know that modal ism or the father taking on the role of Jesus and make-believe story is also man-made.

in Isaiah 10:21 who is this the father or son??? the mighty​ God??

@janlesterfernandez291

4 жыл бұрын

The father if you reding isiaih care fully

@vincentlamech

3 жыл бұрын

you beed to compare that with other verse read this who is that mighty god? ephesian 4:5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

We both believe and all religion beleive that Christ was sent to the world but the question was there a Christ first before he was sent? If you will say no Christ? Then who is He the one the beggoten God in John 1:18 as written in Greek? The only thing you can keep saying that the Christ is a man and only human if you erase those verses that telling about the begotten God/Son his previous condition as spirit before he was sent to world.

Their ancestors if true servants of God were deceived therefore in darkness, so whatever they learned continued to be passed down thus their descendants are in complete darkness. That is why there would be a light #inc so that those in darkness may see :) my belief...

Either God exists in the form of the trinity, or He doesn't exist at all. God presents Himself in the plural in Genesis, which means that if He isn't existent in the Trinitarian form, then the Bible was meant to be polytheistic and then changed later, meaning that the Bible is not the word of God but in fact false, meaning that we have the wrong God. Also the trinity is difficult to comprehend, so is the nature of Christ, so thinking that Christ isn't fully God is really easy to do, but it's not true.

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder. (James 2:19) :)

... for those who believe in a sole creator that men call God.. they have no problem with it. Only those who were taught by their religion always and always argue and argue.. but they are all just reading from a book and none of them ever went to heaven and confirmed what really is. Reading from a book is not enough.

This debate is clearly underhanded. The other presenter is clearly uneducated and does not even have a firm understanding of his own beliefs. It would had been great if both were well equiped. Then a solid conclusion could be created.

As pulling pieces out of all different bibles is not how god or Jesus made it the hole book not pieces to fit you view of it.

The word was God. Word became flesh. Jesus is God in the flesh. God the son walk on the water and rebuke the storm. And Jesus walk on earth as human. Thomas said my Lord My God..

@ 3:25 NKJV John 17:3 is not accurately put up on the screen If Jesus is not God then why are you called Iglesia Ni Cristo? Why not just be Church of God?

@detectivem6419

8 жыл бұрын

It's Simple Because God has Given Christ All the Authority to Judge on Us Human Which is then in the End We will be One with The Head of our Church which is Christ Jesus and That Jesus Will be Under God the Father. Reason why we choose that name it's because Christ Purchased his blood for us not God the Father The Father Only Gave Life But it is Jesus who Judges us in the End For he Has the authority in which the father gaved.

@flipteezy

8 жыл бұрын

+Detective M but it's so simple to understand that Jesus is God. before Jesus died God had to respect the limitations of man, and when Jesus rose he did not have the limitations of man and showed that he is God. of course you will omit verses in the bible to show it. also you cannot say "we choose" BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T EXIST when the name was chosen. your canned response shows that you don't read the Bible and have it read to you. it's not about your church that will save you. Jesus is the only one that can save you so get off your high horse church and only claim that you are the one true church.

@detectivem6419

8 жыл бұрын

There is Always a Church it's group of people in which god purchased them thru his blood didn't you read acts 20:28? or your just blinded by this false doctrine trinity. didn't you read John 17:3 the Father is the only true god and that jesus christ whom he sent. ever read the revelation chapter it's speaks only of TWO throne Not THREE but TWO how in the world did your trinity doctrine fit on it. TWO THrones one for the lord our God and one for Lord our lamb Savior it's a Father and Son relationship and to think of your trinity they are one. we have TWO beings has two different wills Luke 22:42 and even jesus said it infront of the pharisees like you are he said at mark 14:62 he will be sitting at the right hand of the mighty one Right hand not on the center or the throne but on it's right. although i never be littled jesus for without him i would not be saved nor for the church i am now which he purchased by his blood Jesus Christ is important but if you asked me whom i shall praise i praised the father in which Jesus Christ teached whom shall we praise the Father which is the Only True God. you are lost my friend due to the false trinity doctrine you are listening at

@flipteezy

8 жыл бұрын

and you didn't bother to read Reference to the Trinity 16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; Isaiah 48:16-17 and Matthew 28:19, John 1:1, John 1:14, John 10:30... there's so many references don't go telling people are blind when they can read too. the problem with you and your church is that you take advantage of the poor and illiterate creating fear just like the catholics do and tell them that your church is the only way. lots of cults have already did that and people end up knowing that it's not true. so get off your high horse about jesus is not god and there's no trinity just because you fail to read the ENTIRE bible and what your INC tells you what to read. the only reason why INC exists is because they want money and power just like the catholic church, then when other christians challenge you because you are copying the same format you don't listen and tell people they are blind. felix manalo didn't even come up with this. it was his son who came up with this creating yet another division just to maintain power... as if there was power. you want to call people blind, then look at yourself. does jesus really want you to determine if he is god or not? don't you understand that jesus has to respect the limitations of man and then when he died and rose again he became fully god because he overcame death? so you can't say that jesus is not god. and today your leader, wow... he really spends a lot of time making that hair perfect. you really think that's what god wants him to do? have perfect hair, kicking out his own mother and brother out of your church? there's so much crap that your church is struggling through and you make this whole trinity a big deal as if everyone's life depended on it. all these titles and memberships and causing a rift with no real reason is so filipino. and you think that you are the only way to heaven. wow that's a lot of filipinos in heaven... oh boy. don't eat diniguan. even though jesus already said it's okay to eat whatever was created BY GOD. Mark 7:14-19. i won't say you are blind, you are just lost. lost in what your leaders are telling you. so go ahead and continue to act like a cult because that's the only way you will get members through fear. not fear of god, but fear from man. so go take another 4 weeks and ask your leaders what else to say.

@detectivem6419

8 жыл бұрын

To flipteezy: Give Me Just One Verse where it says the Throne of the Holy Spirit for in the Entire Bible it only says about the Throne of the Father and The Throne of the Lamb which is the Right hand of the Father the Entire Bible Says that the Father Sit at the throne and it's right is the son tell me if there is any verse you can find where it states that the holy spirit is in the left so it would complete your cult doctrine the trinity.. listen you are the one lost because your stupid trinity doctrine always comes to a reason "mystery" your reason always say that because man cannot level gods teaching that is why it's a mystery to have the trinity doctrine you are lost... god keeps saying he is the father and that he send this son jesus christ to teach the proper doctrine that his father is the only true god and as a son he too will inherit the authority of his father in which is given unto him time by time by the God the Father.

“But about that day and hour no one knows,” Jesus said in talking about his return at the end of time, “neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matt. 24:36). Note: that’s the Son talking. Or how about in the Gospel of Luke where the story of Jesus’ childhood ends with the words, “And Jesus increased in wisdom and in years” (Luke 2:52). In the Gospel of John it appeared Jesus didn’t no his friend Lazarus had died, and on the cross in Mark’s gospel he thought God had abandoned him. In other words, it looks as if he didn’t know certain things and he learned. For many Christians, to question Jesus’ all-knowingness smacks of irreverence and even blasphemy. If God knows everything and Jesus is God, then Jesus must have known everything, right? Doesn’t thinking that Jesus walked the earth with anything less TEMPthan the total knowledge of everything that was and was to be take away from his divinity? Jesus-as-all knowing, however, runs into another basic Christian belief about him: that he was fully human in every way except for sin. To be human means to have human limitations. Does even a morally perfect person like Jesus get an exemption from not being able to know everything all the time? Doesn’t thinking anything else take away from Jesus’ humanity?

@fredrolinners8903

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus is worshiped for His omniscience (Revelation 5:12) which proves He is God.

AS USUAL stick to one verse only and disregard the verses that call Jesus a God... How about these verses? John 1:1, 14 (RSV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . . [14] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. John 10:30 I and the Father are one. John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Colossians 2:9 For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily, 2 Peter 1:1 . . . our God and Savior Jesus Christ: St. Paul uses the same phrase in Titus 2:13 as well. Hebrews 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.” Jesus is omnipotent (possesses all power): Philippians 3:20-21 . . . the Lord Jesus Christ, [21] who will change our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power which enables him even to subject all things to himself. He's omniscient (all-knowing): Colossians 2:2-3 . . . Christ, [3] in whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. He's omnipresent (present everywhere): Ephesians 1:22-23 the church, [23] which is his body, the fulness of him who fills all in all. (cf. Col 3:11) Many attributes that are said to belong only to “God” are applied to Jesus in Scripture. God the Father said, “besides me there is no savior” (Is 43:11; cf. 1 Tim 4:10). Yet Jesus is called the “savior” of mankind in passages like Luke 2:11 and many others. God the Father stated, “To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear” (Is 45:23). The same exact description is also applied to Jesus (Phil 2:10-11). The Bible teaches that “God” is judge (1 Sam 2:10; Ps 50:6; Ecc 12:14; many others). But so is Jesus (Jn 5:22, 27; 9:39; Acts 10:42; 2 Tim 4:1). Therefore He is God. God the Father sits on His throne in heaven (1 Ki 22:19; Ps 11:4; 47:8). Jesus is on the same throne, too (Rev 7:17; 22:1, 3).

@ojosdelagua

5 жыл бұрын

where can you read that jesus introduce himself as god

@niel1165

5 жыл бұрын

@@ojosdelagua where in the Bible Jesus says I am not GOD? hahahaha You want to find word by word in The Bible but The Bible is NOT DICTIONARY 😂 If you have commonsense you will find the Truth that Jesus is God according to the Context of the Bible 😂 John 1:1-3 NLT In the beginning the WORD (REV 19:13) ALREADY EXISTED. The WORD WAS WITH God, and the Word was God. HE EXISTED in the beginning WITH God. God created everything THROUGH HIM. and NOTHING WAS CREATED EXCEPT THROUGH HIM. Heb 1:2 NLT And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his SON. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and THROUGH THE SON HE CREATED THE UNIVERSE. Col 1:17 NLT HE EXISTED before anything else, and HE HOLDS ALL CREATION together. 1 John 1:1-2 NLT We proclaim to you THE ONE WHO EXISTED FROM THE BEGINNING, whom we have HEARD AND SEEN. We SAW HIM with our own eyes and TOUCHED HIM with our own hands. He is the Word of life. 2 This one who is life itself was revealed to us, and we have seen him. And now we testify and proclaim to you that he is the one who is eternal life. HE WAS WITH THE FATHER and then he was revealed to us.

@niel1165

5 жыл бұрын

@@ojosdelagua If Jesus is Just a Man, Not God How come that WITHOUT JESUS there is NO CREATION?

Never seen this before im 7yrs late all I can say in Psalms 37 it states how Yeshua (Jesus) was the first of creation,so therefore Yeshua is a created being,he was the first of the acts of old praise to the Almighty YHWH and the one whom he approved Yeshua that sacrificed his earthly life because it was the will of his God his father that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON

So if Jesus was mistaken by jews and they crucify Him, so it means INC peeps will crucify Jesus, as well? Because you also stated that you dont believe Jesus is God just like pharisees and other jews..

@vincentlamech

3 жыл бұрын

john 17:“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

@ckmarjanovic765

Жыл бұрын

That's a different time and event. Please broaden your critical thinking so that u can accept the truth.

Would anyone like to question Christianity as a part of a school project. I would prefer it be a non-christian

@dementare

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryley Collom If you are still looking for an atheist... "I'm your huckleberry." lol

The only church all over the world, who stand for this debate, about the true nature of Jesus christ. Which is very about, what the apostol teaching.., god is flesh and bone,, Christ is resurrect with his body. So it means, he is not become a god..

In orig Greek John 1:18 begotten God (Christ) and even some English version Bible, but the exact word written in Greek if to be translated exactly it should be begotten God (Christ).

The Trinitarian got Decimated with the sharp scriptures of truth.

Amazing Church of Christ defender, preach and teach very clear

I post a scripture with nothing else attached to it. None of my own words, thoughts or interpretations and immediately you try to discredit and attack it! Wow! Must be nice to be above God and His word to try to correct the Bible. I'm certain God must be smiling upon you. NOT! However, if you'd like to talk about different biblical translations why don't we start with Acts 20:28. KJV: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. NIV: Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. ESV: Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. NASB: Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. Douay-Reims Bible: Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. ASV: Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood. God purchased the with God's own blood. In fact. even though I don't subscribe to Constantine and the Council of Nicaea's mandatory 325 A.D. subscription of the trinity, I do fully believe and understand that God is a three-part being. Just as you and I are. Spirit, soul and body. Yesterday, today and forever. Which should be of no surprise as we were made in His image. At least I am! Now let's have George Lamsa confirm that Jesus and God are the same and interchangeable as he clearly states in his version of scripture at Acts 20:28. Lamsa: Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood. Did Lamsa really just put Jesus in place of God and make them interchangeable? And is this not the foundational scripture of the Iglesia ni Cristo? A big giant YES!!! See... when man tries to mess around with God's word and point out scribal errors and whatnot that are simply your own interpretation or those of another man, and have no Godly inspiration or truth to them... All you get is burned. You and the INC are in my earnest prayers.

@zhouqi1003

4 жыл бұрын

Your argument was very misleading and selective. There were different manuscripts regarding acts 20:28 such as, church of the lord or church of God. The Lamsa translation takes into account the more accurate manuscript, church of the lord ( as God does not have blood as he is a spirit which is in other verses) therefore the words used are “church of Christ” as Jesus has flesh and blood unlike God. If it was church of God it would create a contradiction in the bible therefore using this translation is more accurate. The Lamsa translation takes into account Jesus being made Lord by God which is also in another verse in the bible. It is then said that the lord referred in acts 20:28 is Lord Jesus Christ. I recommend you asking a minister in the church through our website (incmedja) if you are still not convinced.Having a one sided argument without hearing the other side is unfair and is very misleading. INC follows all doctrines written in the bible with no interpretation whatsoever, if you were to just listen with an open mind you may be filled with more understanding before coming to a conclusion like this.

if Christ deity is not biblical why the apostles said the divinity of Christ as GOD in the bible we can read it then you said not biblical ? since we can read it in the bible! ...

@StringPlunker

5 жыл бұрын

There is nothing in the Bible which identifies Jesus as the one God. You have been deceived. There is only one God and therefore every mention of the one God in Scripture is a reference to his God.

@DO-sr8jw

5 жыл бұрын

you are very wrong on your statement i didnt say one God but God!

@StringPlunker

5 жыл бұрын

So he isn't the one God but another God?

@DO-sr8jw

5 жыл бұрын

you are the one thinking of it as another God i said God the apostles mentioned it that Christ is God!

@DO-sr8jw

5 жыл бұрын

what are you an iglesia ni cristo human founded in the philippines by Felix manalo and the rest of 19 founders!?

And.. i thought religion should be all about doing good and helping one another... and helping the sick and the less fortunate in life.. but it seems that preachers ,and ministers live and show their faith in God by talking ang arguing? You better be kidding... All the bla blas and no deed ? Everybody wants to be a hero.. but the one you all revere as your saviour was nailed on the cross and thats how you follow Him ? By arguing and debating? Cmon ... show me some good deeds ..

not the one God but GOD!

I noticed That the Casa De Oro debater is not that familiar with INC's tactics on debates. The full debate shows that the INC when confronted with verses that disagrees with their Beliefs, he wont answer the question but wishes to read other verses instead. Overall its not a great debate. INC points were clear and on point but when verses on the scripture agrees with CDO he shy's away. CDO should have articulated his points much stronger. This debate is not a clear win for the INC. No wonder they are scared to DEBATE ELI SORIANO. DOCUMENTED

@jovitrondilla9551

5 жыл бұрын

For your info Mr Rey De BAD, INC are clearly winning not only in debates but most especially people of all walks of life and religious denominations. Hundreds of religious leaders, pastors, ministers, priests, nuns are joining the Church of Christ. About a debate with Mr. Soriano, pls ask him to come back first from his self-exile in Brazil. Like what Mr. Soriano said "may sinabi ba ako na hinahamon ko ang Iglesia ni Cristo, WALA NUN".

This inc uses other translations about deity of Christ but when it comes to acts 20:28 they will use only lamsa.

Jesus POINT the FATHER his ONLY TRUE GOD. JOHN 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know YOU(referring to the Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you hast sent. JOHN 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God. ---Jesus NEVER address himself as GOD, NEVER include himself, NEVER point himself as GOD. But he POINT the FATHER his ONLY TRUE GOD. ->The Apostles also POINT ONE GOD, and that is the FATHER 1 CORINTHIANS 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 8:6 BUT TO US THERE IS BUT ONE GOD, THE FATHER, OF whom are all things, and we in him; and ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST, BY whom are all things, and we by him. ---Both Christ and the Apostle TEACH ONE GOD and that is the FATHER. ->Besides if we point JESUS as GOD. Why Jesus (SON) DOES NOT KNOW WHEN was his (JESUS, SON) SECOND COMING(JUDGEMENT DAY, END OF THE WORLD) As MARK 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON (JESUS), BUT THE FATHER. ---So If Jesus is GOD Why Apostle MARK said that “No one knows when that day or time will be. The Son(JESUS) and the angels in heaven don’t know when that day or time will be. Only the Father(TRUE GOD) knows.” Because ONLY THE TRUE GOD(FATHER) KNOWS when His(FATHER) son’s(JESUS) SECOND COMING(JUDGEMENT DAY, END OF THE WORLD) ---Any Church or priest, pastor, minister, reverend or wizard that teaching or having the doctrine that ”Jesus is GOD” is a FALSE teacher or a FALSE church. BEWARE of them and don’t let them DECEIVE you.

This video is bias, show us the full video.

There is one God, the only God is Jesus Christ's God and there is no other God but his God. No sane believer of Scripture can deny this.

@boiboi9888

3 жыл бұрын

The being of god is shared by 3 persons - father, son, and spirit

@dondongervacio4920

Жыл бұрын

@@boiboi9888 no the only one god 😂😂😂

@Srhyle

Жыл бұрын

@@dondongervacio4920 so you're really saying Jesus is a liar. 🤦‍♂ John 10:30 Philippians 2:5-6

I think dr.white is the best oponent on that man. I sure he will cry and nose bleding. 😁

@pizzahypeftw9039

2 жыл бұрын

agreed. Dr James White would be awesome oponent. He is very clear when it comes to the Deity of Christ.

My words belong to me and me alone .. GOD's words belong to HE and HE alone , HIS WORD became flesh who is JESUS CHRIST.. yes JESUS CHRIST is GOD .. how do yall not see it ? Yes there is an order but all equal because 3 persons is one .. GOD does not share HIS glory theres one GOD .

INC followers r hardcore lol I know these r just highlights, but it seems like they breakdown a single passage. Dr. James White took that teacher from INC to school. It's on KZread. Hebrews 1:3. ✌🏼

@tabasco7915

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I had seen that debate but there is another debate where a J.W. took James White to school.

@sictoruno2345

Жыл бұрын

@@tabasco7915 send me the link if u have it. Thanks

@tabasco7915

Жыл бұрын

@@sictoruno2345 I will find it and send it to you.

@sictoruno2345

Жыл бұрын

@@tabasco7915 cool. Thanks

@tabasco7915

Жыл бұрын

@@sictoruno2345 After watching, tell me what you think.

Trinity is man made doctrine ... People must know how Trinity Created !!!! People Must Search The Truth.....

We catholic believe the father our God and believe jesus the son of God, who also our God...

Trinity pa more

Jesus on earth fully man & fully God.has limitations like human being,dependent on God,moved by the power of the Holy Spirit.when casting out demons pharisees accusing Him casting demons by the power of the devil.Jesus told them blasphemy agains Holy Spirit would never be forgiven.He was made little lower than the angels heb. 1:6.take the form of a bondservant phil. 2:7.Jesus was even so scared and stressed praying at the garden of gethsemane.for the fear of eternal seperation of the Father.but after ressurection all authority is given to Jesus heaven & earth including mat. 28:19,20 that includes second coming & judgement day.do not be deceived your Savior is God,be like doubting thomas the greatest public confession of faith & said my Lord & my God well accepted.for it is a horrible sin accepting worship as if u are a God.

TRINITY (GODHEAD): Romans1[20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead [theote¯s]; so that they are without excuse: theotes; divinity (abstractly): - godhead TRINITY (GODHEAD): Collosians 2[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.[9]For in him dwelleth [katoikeo¯] all [pas] the fulness [ple¯ro¯ma] of the Godhead [theote¯s] bodily [so¯matiko¯s]. katoikeo¯: to house permanently, that is, reside (literally or figuratively): - dwell (-er), inhabitant (-ter). pas: Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole: - all (manner of, means) alway (-s), any (one), X daily, + ever, every (one, way), as many as, + no (-thing), X throughly, whatsoever, whole, whosoever. ple¯ro¯ma: repletion or completion, that is, (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period): - which is put in to fill up, piece that filled up, fulfilling, full, fulness. theote¯s: divinity (abstractly): - godhead. so¯matiko¯s: corporeally or physically: - bodily.

Let this mind be in you,which was also in Christ Jesus:Who,being in the form of God,thought it not robbery to be equal with God (Phil.2:5-6 KJV) kayong mga inc there’s a lot in the Bible that Jesus is God hirap sa inyo ang dami nyo bibliya na binabasa

@slapzglow9564

Жыл бұрын

In the form of GOD , was used as an adjective meaning Jesus was Holy but he never thought he is equal with God cause he knows he is not God John 17:1-3

->Jesus Christ is a MAN(HUMAN) before(John 8:40) and after(Luke. 24:39) resurrection, even when he reached heaven(Heb. 10:12). Before resurrection: “But now you seek to kill me, A MAN who was told you the truth which I heard from God.” (John 8:40) After resurrection: “Behold MY HANDS AND MY FEET, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; FOR A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES, as ye see me have.” (Luke. 24:39) When he reached heaven: "BUT THIS MAN, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God" (Heb. 10:12) In fact, those people/group that deny or do not acknowledge that our Lord Jesus Christ is a human are called by the Bible as ANTI-CHRIST. “There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was TRULY HUMAN, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: DECEIVER! ANTICHRIST! “(2 John 1:7, MSG)

@mepuememes959

8 жыл бұрын

Jesus is essentially God in human form or God in the flesh. Why formulate INC doctrine out of INComplete scripture reading? Read and understand the whole scripture and you will know Jesus co- existed with the Father before creation. Its a relationship with Jesus that grants sanctification and justification not a religion. Religion says do but Jesus said done. Period.

@arielramos7130

8 жыл бұрын

+Mepue Memes - Wrong Jesus is the son of God he was sent by God and was the first creation of the Almighty God. Collosians 1:15 ... and "The Father is greater than I am.” John 14:28. Also, please use a bible verse when you reply not just a hearsay on what you have heard from someone, I was like you before pick your bible and take the verse to defend your faith. Felix Manalo is an ordinary man and will never ever be a messenger and it is impossible for him to be an ANGEL as to what the INC is claiming (5th angel) ang dami nga nyang anak eh ibig sabihin nakikipag sex siya nung buhay pa siya ( no offense meant pero that is true ) at nabinyagan din siya sa RC ... kung sugo siya ng diyos at anghel sa simula pa lang alam nya purpose nya. hindi yung palipat lipat pa siya ng Religions.

@matthewmanucci

5 жыл бұрын

For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, Colossians 2:9 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” John 8:58 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28 (Thomas should be stoned for blasphemy if the INC is correct about Jesus not being God) but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Philippians 2:7-8 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son today I have begotten you”? Or again “I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son”? And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.” Of the angels he says, “He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.” But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.” And “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.” And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”? Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation? Hebrews 5:13

@earlgosselin5023

4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmanucci if Christ is not God, how could the Father be. A father and son must be equal in being to be called such.

INC,THE WINNER

hope you're set free from this cult

***Saad sa Juan17:5 na bago gawin ang mundo at tao ay kasama na ng Dios Ama and Dios Anak na si Jesu Kristo. Wala pang tao at mundo ay kasama na ng Dios Ama si Jesus. Papano sasabihin na tal lamamg is Jesus? Ang Panginoon Jesus ay nagkatawan tao para iligtas ang mundo sa kasalanan at binayaran niya ito sa Krus.. Huwag na huwag baliwalain and pagka Anak ng Dios si Jesus. Huwag iligaw ang bayan ssa maling turo.

Great ! INC FOREVER

@fredrolinners8903

2 жыл бұрын

INC will forever be heretics. They deny the Lord Jesus is God.

The debate with James White vs Joe Ventilacion was better! Joe was schooled by a real scholar! Joe lost horribly on the debate.

@dondongervacio4920

Жыл бұрын

Not lost baptis lost😂😂😂😂

INC debaters are hilarious! like a modern pharisees who criticize Jesus.

@detectivem6419

8 жыл бұрын

It's you who think liked that but don't you know that Jesus is important to us for he is our savior "the messiah" without him there will be no salvation but if you ask us who is the True One and Only God (It will be the Father) no doubt. There is a Difference between the word "God" and "Lord" try to see it in a dictionary

@flipteezy

8 жыл бұрын

+Detective M that's a pretty weak defense.

@detectivem6419

8 жыл бұрын

At least not as weak as your mind does..

The INC debater talking about Jesus Human Nature that He Dont know the Time but Forgot the verse stating that Jesus knows everything 😂 John 21:17 Jesus not refute the statement that "You know EVERYTHING" If Jesus literally dont know the time how can Jesus says "Behold I BECOME QUICKLY" Rev 22:12 "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each as is his work. Revelation 3:11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. Revelation 22:7 "Behold, I am coming quickly. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of prophecy in this book." Iglesia ni Cristo Minister and Members have no commonsense 😂

The Trinity Creation Gen 1:26 Us and Oura become Singular v27 Who is the US and Ours? Father Mal 2:10 Son John 1:3, Col 1:17, Heb 1:10 Hs Job 33:4 The CULT Iglesia ni Cristo cant deny this TRUTH in the Bible 😂

Jesus is God

INC has been burned! 🤣🤣🤣

@user-tf9mq6fx2c

4 жыл бұрын

and then you realized that you're the one who is burning like hell.... and its too late. hahah!!

Jesus is fully divine fully human

@briankregg6329

3 жыл бұрын

You will never find a verse that says so.!

The Truth is in the Church of Christ or Iglesia ni Cristo only, because this is the one build by Christ during the 1st century Church, This is the one God proclaim to go inside this Church Acts 2:47 so that you will be saved on the Day of Judgment, This is the only Church to be saved when Christ come on his 2nd advent. This is the Day of the judgment also, this is very near less than 100 years from now, to be exact on Jan 17, 2117 This is the last day of earth.

Jesus literally said he was God. Like, literally, its in the bible. I and my Father are one, he's even in the Trinity.

@leumasnugas6222

4 жыл бұрын

You are putting your assumptions to the mouth of Jesus

@professionalbiologist7108

4 жыл бұрын

@@leumasnugas6222 John 10:30 "I and my father are one" is literally in the Bible.

@user-tf9mq6fx2c

4 жыл бұрын

@@professionalbiologist7108 One on what? read the entirety of the verses before that and you will know where they are ONE - ONE IN TAKING CARE OF THE FLOCK. 2-in-1 God? naahhh... it's only in your head - more so 3-in-1 (trinity) God... the holy spirit where in the Bible that it speak of itself as God? only in your head again. there's no TRINITY in the BIBLE - don't add nor subtract on what is written or your all days will be doomed.

@vincentlamech

3 жыл бұрын

really? then read this verse mark 10:18“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone. and then john 17:“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. did jesus say we are both gods?

@EastSheepDefender

Жыл бұрын

​@@vincentlamech I Tim. 2:5 trinitarians always avoid this verse

soo.. i guess your a member of this cult eagle news?

Jesus is not God, He worship God, and God never worship another god, it against the Bible,

Jesus is always a God. In death, all these INC members will repent for their belief. Jesus shall turn his back to them.

Jesus is called Almighty God in the Bible Revelation 1:7 INC is a false chruch felix manalo was a false messenger

@manuelbuniag3651

4 жыл бұрын

then why we know all things? why we can understand the bible?

INC church is not prophesied in the Bible!!!! Felix manalo was not a angel.

@ddoseofmemes

11 ай бұрын

No one said he is an angel???? He is a human. Where did you even get that

Very Clear .INC is the true Church🎉🎉🎉

Jesus POINT the FATHER his ONLY TRUE GOD. JOHN 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know YOU(referring to the Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you hast sent. JOHN 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God. ---Jesus NEVER address himself as GOD, NEVER include himself, NEVER point himself as GOD. But he POINT the FATHER his ONLY TRUE GOD. ->The Apostles also POINT ONE GOD, and that is the FATHER 1 CORINTHIANS 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 8:6 BUT TO US THERE IS BUT ONE GOD, THE FATHER, OF whom are all things, and we in him; and ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST, BY whom are all things, and we by him. ---Both Christ and the Apostle TEACH ONE GOD and that is the FATHER. ->Besides if we point JESUS as GOD. Why Jesus (SON) DOES NOT KNOW WHEN was his (JESUS, SON) SECOND COMING(JUDGEMENT DAY, END OF THE WORLD) As MARK 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON (JESUS), BUT THE FATHER. ---So If Jesus is GOD Why Apostle MARK said that “No one knows when that day or time will be. The Son(JESUS) and the angels in heaven don’t know when that day or time will be. Only the Father(TRUE GOD) knows.” Because ONLY THE TRUE GOD(FATHER) KNOWS when His(FATHER) son’s(JESUS) SECOND COMING(JUDGEMENT DAY, END OF THE WORLD) ---Any Church or priest, pastor, minister, reverend or wizard that teaching or having the doctrine that ”Jesus is GOD” is a FALSE teacher or a FALSE church. BEWARE of them and don’t let them DECEIVE you.

@lectoyacuesta9687

8 жыл бұрын

+Gio Alavarez matthew 28:18 and Jesus came and spake unto them saying all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.... after he was resurected and ascended in heaven,, he say All power what is that power, in heaven and in earth...pls... proceed to revelation chapter 1:8 I am alpha and omega the beginning and the ending saith the lord which is and which was and which to come the almighty..... pls research kung sino ang all mighty na sinasabi dito The father or The Son..... ang tao ay hindi kailanman maging all mighty pero si Jesus sabi nang Biblia All mighty Only God is Allmighty pare after Jesus was resurected he Come back to his Thrown....as being God almighty.........

@lectoyacuesta9687

8 жыл бұрын

+Gio Alavarez I timothy 3:16 and without controversy great is the mystery of godliness. God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the spirit seen of angels preached unto the GEntiles believed on in the world received up into the Glory.......maski ang mga aghel kita nila na ang Dyos ay nag katawang Tao.....sabi pa dito wITHOUT cONTROVERSY......SANA wala nang controversy na may misteryo sa pagkaDiyos ni kristo....sya ay nagkatawang Tao....hindi ba kaya nang Dyos na mag soklob nang katawan nang Tao.... ano ang pagka intindi mo nang All mighty walang kakayahan?????? tatanongin kita pare kung si Kristo ay Anak nang Dyos papa ano ang Diyos Manganak??????

@lectoyacuesta9687

8 жыл бұрын

+Lectoy Acuesta Si kristo ay Son of God diba???? ngayon papaano manganak ang Diyos?????nabuntis ba sya si Kristo ay galing sa langit Diba???? ngayon kaylan sya nahulog galing sa langit.... Dahil ang pag iisip nyo sya ay pinadala nang ama kaylan sya dumating na galing sya sa langit?????? Yon kasi LOgic lang ang ginagamit nYo.....

@xwilliam1x

8 жыл бұрын

+Lectoy Acuesta John 17:3 says "they may know YOU" --SINGULAR NOT PLURAL. YOU, NOT us, we, u and me, me and u. When Jesus said YOU. He is referring to the Father as he begins on verse 1

@xwilliam1x

8 жыл бұрын

+Lectoy Acuesta Was Jesus has VISIBLE/PHYSICAL existence b4 the WORLD BEGAN on John 17:5? "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was"[John 17:5] This verse DOES NOT PROVE OF CHRIST PRE-EXISTENCE neither does Christ claimto be God. For Christ in that very instance never included himself in the one true God, he speaks of no other God but the Father. "When Jesus had spoken these words, HE LIFTED UP HIS EYES TO HEAVEN AND SAID, FATHER, the hour has come; glorify thy Son that the Son may glorify thee...And this is eternal life, THAT THEY KNOW THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent."(John 17:1,3) TRINATARIANS disregarded John 17:1-3 in their understanding john 17:5. If having a glory b4 the WORLD BEGAN means PRE-EXISTENCE, then ordinary people would have pre-existed as well. "But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, WHICH GOD ORDAINED BEFORE THE WORLD UNTO OUR GLORY:" [1 Cor 2:7] "According as he hath CHOSEN US IN HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, THAT WE SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLAME BEFORE HIM IN LOVE:" [Eph 1:4] God "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, WHICH GOD HATH BEFORE ORDAINED THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM." [Eph 2:10] "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, WHICH WAS GIVEN US IN CHRIST JESUS BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN," [2 Tim 1:9] "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, PROMISED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN;" [Titus 1:2] This proves that God can choose to bestow glory to anyone even before their existence, This is the same thing that happens to Christ. God has given Him glory before the world begun to be the savior for man and not as God. "But with the precious blood of Christ as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you," [1 Pet 1:19-20] Jesus was given glory before the world was and it does not mean he pre-existed. CHOSEN PEOPLE ALSO HAD GLORY IN THE BEGINNING, [1 Cor 2:7] and they did not exist yet when the glory was bestowed to them. ---John 17:5 is a PROOF that Christ is NOT PREEXISTENCE or has a VISIBLE/PHYSICAL existence before the world began. If Christ is PREEXISTING with God(Father) before CREATION, there is NO NEED for Jesus Christ to CLAIM the GLORY he had with God(Father) BEFORE CREATION. For a PREEXISTING Christ would have STAYED GLORIFIED before creation til the time on John 17:5   --John 17:5 designates the MISSION fulfilled by our Lord Jesus Christ. Christ is claiming the GLORY because a PHYSICAL Christ fulfilled that MISSION which is bestowed to the MESSIAH/SAVIOR. That’s why Satan tempted Jesus thrice on the desert, For Satan knows that Jesus have the chance to FAIL. If Jesus give in to the TEMPTATION of Satan, The GLORY of the prophesied MESSIAH before the world began have NOT given to Jesus. But through all the TEMPTATION of Satan, Our Lord Jesus Christ CONTINUE on OBEYING the will of God and not the will of his own flesh nor the temptation of Satan.