I think Ross and Rachel were the perfect examples of what not to do in a relationship. Whereas Monica and Chandler told what to do in a relationship.

@bridgetjohnson7553

3 жыл бұрын

yessssss

@EllaChant

3 жыл бұрын

I agree!! Through my years watching the show, I realized all of the toxicity of Ross and Rachel's relationship by seeing how Monica and Chandler were in theirs. Of course, that's not to say they were 'perfect' but what is? Hahaha.

@rasikaa_

3 жыл бұрын

@@EllaChant Yeah, true. Monica and Chandler made mistakes but were pretty quick to realise and accept them.

@ithamarlowe6158

3 жыл бұрын

Ross and Rachel were both immature and bad at listening to each other. Chandler and Monica communicate their insecurities with each other and fill the gaps.

@dallasstone5160

3 жыл бұрын

Yeaaaaah

“You never have the time.” They started dating when she was a waitress who hated her job, and he was a career academic. The power dynamic was in his favor. When that power dynamic began to change, he felt threatened. Add to that the jealousy issue, and the “just a job” issue. He just didn’t see her as the woman she was becoming; he only saw her as the girl he crushed over.

@ivsbanks

3 жыл бұрын

Literally, nothing else needs to be said. This is SPOT ON.

@alanstuff

3 жыл бұрын

Very well said I absolutely HATED the fact that the series ended with her getting off the plane and giving up her dream job. They could have worked something out.

@Daisy-jz7ky

3 жыл бұрын

Francisco Leyva Martin u may have a different opinion but it’s her dream job personally I prefer Rachel’s job

@ErinRaeASMR

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin dude, your opinion is not fact. get over it.

@ErinRaeASMR

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin say it all you want, it doesnt make it true, objective fact. it's just your opinion. your opinion is real, but it's not fact or truth just bc you believe it. understand?

Could anyone imagine that 23 years after Ross and Rachel broke up, we would be watching 2 relationship therapists analyze it on the internet during a pandemic?

@alijane5116

3 жыл бұрын

lol jesus'

@szamira7199

3 жыл бұрын

After we watched the whole TV show like a 100th times in 3-4 different platform

@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe

3 жыл бұрын

No because that’s a highly specific situation. You could say something like that for any situation.

@msaijay1153

3 жыл бұрын

Oh sure, I was expecting all of this to happen.

@hufflepuffhorcrux3269

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, I’m psychic

I love how these two are never afraid to disagree with each other, but always do so in a respectful and rational way. True professionals, and I can see they respect each other as such.

@hollywoodshopaholic

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it would be ironic if they were constantly arguing lol

@haltiamava

3 жыл бұрын

Shubham Patil it's a big yikes that you feel that way 🥴

@impedimxnta

3 жыл бұрын

Ava Gordy hi ava, fancy seeing u here

@BlessedBeyondCompare

3 жыл бұрын

At first I thought you meant Ross and Rachel but you meant the couple therapists haha

@DinosourousRexx

3 жыл бұрын

blessedout Haha nah 😂

Read in someone else's analysis - Ross & Rachel each grew up a spoiled child. This affect their adult relationship.

@augustinensang3109

3 жыл бұрын

Fair points

@rayannetirza9432

3 жыл бұрын

This is SO ACCURATE

@taniamanik2012

3 жыл бұрын

While Monica and Chandler were the sideline/ignored children

@cassoIa

3 жыл бұрын

Omg I never thought of that before! That’s a great point

@pamorris73

3 жыл бұрын

This is so true

I would like to see an analysis like this on Monica and Chandler's relationship.

@janinebraul3954

3 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling that could be much more controversial...

@henrypeters5291

3 жыл бұрын

@@janinebraul3954 I don't think it would be controversial, I think it could either be super loved or super hated. However, I would like to see how I met your mother or the big bang theory reviewed. Imagine the chaos.

@dvchel

3 жыл бұрын

@Katherine Rinck They would probably fall asleep .... because Monica/Chandler hardly had any real or serious drama in the shape/way that it came with Rachel/Ross.

@gggg-if7ze

3 жыл бұрын

monica definitely did some very questionable things but overall it was a very healthy relationship

@weddywanderer8322

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, especially after they get married. Because after that Monica (and everyone for that matter) is super condescending towards Chandler and it really annoyed me.

The problem is that, they both got character develoment but there is nothing in the ending that actualy proves that their relationship problems can't happen again

@rochellesalesc

3 жыл бұрын

Very well said!

@aa96998

3 жыл бұрын

Ross got not an ounce of character development. By the end of the series, he was still controlling and petty, still overly jealous of Rachel’s relationships, hiding her messages, dating and using a woman who had clear emotional problems to “get back at Rachel” for kissing Mark, etc. He was nowhere better than season 3.

@jeteaze

3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious to know what character development you think they both had. I didn't see character development in Ross and I saw some in Rachel. Could someone give me examples of Ross's character development? I would love to hear the opinions of others.

@lilil9752

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeteaze examples: Rachel trying to fix Ross's relationship with Mona (being selfish in their relationship was pretty defining for Rachel) and Ross helping Rachel with her brokem arm while having an important event and not whinimg about it (whining and braging was quite defining for Ross) There are little examples but i'd say the are better people than when they began

@dvchel

3 жыл бұрын

@@aa96998 Well, Ross did have some substantial character development in season 1 and 2 that was both interesting and consistent. Take for example, learning the "ropes" of being a father when he finds out his cheating ex-wife Carol is pregnant with his baby and deciding to share custody and be involved, while simultaneously going after the girl of his dreams in the name of Rachel Green and helping her settle in her new life in the Big Apple. Then, in season 3 and beyond he was this complete different person and the constant progression/regression continued after that. That includes neglecting Rachel with his ego, arrogance and sense of self-entitlement that came out of nowhere, and then, the many divorces and breakups that came to following in season 4, 5 etc. It is a disappointing observation and it continues to highlight where Friends itself was heading into the wrong direction. Because, season 8 did end up reviving the show for finally bringing character-driven motive back into the spotlight and writing new, interesting and fresh developments, in addition to a different type of comedy that was less cartoonish.

I love how invested we are in a fictional relationship

@sophieblue6289

3 жыл бұрын

That pretty much sums up the traits of our species

@nicobones9608

3 жыл бұрын

It allows us to analyze real relationship issues and what makes relationships fall apart without having to feel like we're being judgmental of real people.

@dvchel

3 жыл бұрын

@Gabby Cepeda I love how we human species continue to fall for the _"we were on a break"_ catchphrase. Because it was *never* about cheating, but rather Rachel being angry at Ross for sleeping with someone else when they were broken up. Because, later in the season 3 finale she even admits that she hadn't stopped loving him. Then, in season 4 and beyond the catchphrase gets an entire new twist and meaning. Take for example, when Ross' character says to their daughter: _"no matter what your mommy says - we were on a break, yes we were, yes we were."_ Pointing out the context that had changed to whether they were broken up at all, even though in the breakup episode Rachel clearly admitted they were.

@magdataravini2413

3 жыл бұрын

Because this happens in movies, happens in real life, happens in TNT 🤣

@YTistooannoying

3 жыл бұрын

The horrible parts of fictional people teaches people about undesirable traits. The good parts of them. How we should be. It is important to be invested in them as humans (to a point).

Give credit to David Schwimmer and Jennifer Aniston for portraying their characters like this.

@chantelles3641

3 жыл бұрын

David is a great actor. But I HATE the Ross character - he's so needy!

@Noah_ol11

3 жыл бұрын

David Schwimmer is amazing, best actor on the show , but Ross is an unlikeable character , Jennifer Aniston is one of the best actress ever , beautiful and talented , but her better job wasn't played Rachel Green ,Rachel also was in this toxic relationship , so Jennifer and David , great actors ( even i ship David and Jennifer ) , but i appreciate more the actors than their characters

@Noah_ol11

3 жыл бұрын

@@chantelles3641 totally right , Ross may be a jerk and problematic character , but David Schwimmer is amazing

@charasganja1997

3 жыл бұрын

David Schwimmer was very underrated as Ross....

@oopsneha

3 жыл бұрын

Whatever it is, we always enjoy watchin friends everytime cause this is not much realistic and we ppl like to see unrealistic things cause that doesn't happen often...

It wasn't just that Ross wasn't listening to Rachel when she said she didn't have time/ten minutes, it was that he wasn't supportive or understanding of her finally getting a great job, that excites her and that she is really good at

@gllyflower

3 жыл бұрын

It's ironic because when he's making that pro and con list about her one of the cons is "just a waitress"...so clearly he thinks having a purposeful job is important but...

@CH-kr2df

3 жыл бұрын

That always bugged me. Especially since he expected then to be supportive of his career.

@Leondragon06

3 жыл бұрын

@@gllyflower Thanks for pointing that out! Great detail.

@JoySilla

3 жыл бұрын

And she had just taken over Mark's position with Sophie taking over hers as the second assistant. It's understandable that she didn't have time all week when she is the more experienced of the two. Sophie probably didn't have enough on the job training to pick up the slack

@drena278

3 жыл бұрын

E) All of the above...

i do love ross and rachel, but mondler were definitely the best couple in the whole show

@MrCanada4evr

3 жыл бұрын

Mondler, hilarious. Sounds like the human version of mongrel; something bastardized that was constructed in a lab somewhere. They were the best couple that felt like a real couple and they seemed legitimately funny rather than forced.

@meliza.day83

3 жыл бұрын

@Molly Misandrist Chonica Binger

@MrCanada4evr

3 жыл бұрын

@Molly Misandrist How about Chanica, Mondler. Then it sounds like they were spliced AND in some sci-fi movie. Although, I like your Chonica better. It sounds like something went wrong in the splicing. Chonica Mondler.

@therockingvolbeat3630

3 жыл бұрын

Monica often puts Chandler down, I dont see it as a healthy relationship

@MrCanada4evr

3 жыл бұрын

@@therockingvolbeat3630 That's true, now that I think about it.

when he pointed out that “i can’t do this anymore” REALLY should be “i can’t do this, like this anymore”... this is why therapy or just a simple conversation with someone w an outside pov is genuinely sooo important. bc ending something & fixing something are completely different

@catherinesinclair7727

3 жыл бұрын

That's such a great point. I read today "don't make permanent decisions based on temporary emotions"...which I think ties in with your point.

They should have analyzed the one where she flies to London, then he says her name. Or where she tells him to stop dating but he is with Mona.

@nasrisyahaniahmadlutfi1104

3 жыл бұрын

She told him to stop dating when he went out with the girl who works at the baby store. After he was with Mona.

@solisgloria74

3 жыл бұрын

@@nasrisyahaniahmadlutfi1104 Oh yeah!!! That one too. I think Rachel was more selfish than Ross. If that is possible.

@nasrisyahaniahmadlutfi1104

3 жыл бұрын

MacClovia Solis I think they're both toxic.

@xaviconde

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, but Ross wasn't dating Mona when Rachel said that, she was at the end of her pregnancy and the relationship with Mona was over months ago. Rachel and Ross are kind of terrible to each other yet perfect for each other too.

@xaviconde

3 жыл бұрын

@@nasrisyahaniahmadlutfi1104 he had broken up with Mona before meeting the girl at the baby store.

That was superinteresting. I would also love to see a video where they discuss Monica and Chandler's relationship and why it worked. Because they are also very difficult people who have had maaany crappy relationships before they fell in love with each other

@florleo3968

3 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it I really hope they do one in the near future because that’s something I’ve been wondering too

@jodie3950

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Monica and Chandler are my most favourite couple of all time, and I would love to see their relationship discussed by these two experts

@MissieK

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed but I think in many instances in the series we see Chandler and Monica addressing the issues they had with each other. Also they did show to support each other even in tough moment and not just bailing. Chandler was jealous of her ex not a coworker. And so did Monica she didn't jeopardize his career because she felt insecure. It is shown that even tho they had a friend group of six they managed to keep their relationship between them and not involve the others around their decision about what they will do. Remember when everyone told them not to move and it was bad and what is gonna happen in their friendship if they move so Chandler lied that they didn't get the house to get them off. And later he told Monica that he lied because they got the house and they didn't have to deal with their friends being selfish

@jiminycricket9220

3 жыл бұрын

Yessssss

@Agrillot6

3 жыл бұрын

marvelka94 Janice 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Honestly another part of the problem is Ross doesn’t actually value Rachel’s job. Her dream career is in fashion but Ross doesn’t think a job in fashion is a “real job” (it’s mentioned in a few episodes around the break one). That’s going to be a source of tension. Ironically Ross is also the person who get’s ultra defensive over the validity of his own profession whenever somebody makes light of it. Honestly I don’t see them ever working as a couple. He’s had a crush on her for ages, Rachel’s never going to live up to the version of herself that Ross has a crush on because it’s an idealised version of herself that lives in his head and people aren’t perfect. Even without any other glaring problems in their relationship, this would probably doom them.

@TheDayDreamingOwl

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't so much that he didn't value her job, he didn't want to have to share her with her new job. Which is why he would actively devalue it.

@jessicamarshall1975

3 жыл бұрын

The Day Dreaming Owl The one where he goes with her to a fashion lecture. When Rachel was annoyed he went to sleep, Ross responded that he couldn’t believe the guy talked about a specific style of dress for about an hour. Like talking about fashion for any length of time was boring and not valuable.

@TheDayDreamingOwl

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessicamarshall1975 Okay and?

@louis-stephane1391

3 жыл бұрын

People always forgot that everyone undervalues Ross love for dinausor since he a was kid. Of course, he is defensive about it.

@jessicamarshall1975

3 жыл бұрын

Louis-Stéphane Ross knows what it’s like to have people question the validity of his passion but he turns around and does the same thing to Rachel. That’s what I meant.

Must be weird having a relationship with a relationship therapist

@Justanotherconsumer

3 жыл бұрын

My wife is a lawyer that does domestic violence protection orders... The risk is actually that they let you get away with being a lousy partner because they’re used to seeing things that are so much worse.

@jeteaze

3 жыл бұрын

I had a relationship with a communications teacher. It’s not the same but similar. It was the best relationship I’ve ever had. He taught me so much about myself and my emotions, how to process them, and how to communicate needs. It was amazing. I became a much better version of myself thanks to his help. I would love a relationship with a therapist.

@ni3070

3 жыл бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer oh my! That's so deep

@michaelgeorge1737

3 жыл бұрын

That would be like having a relationship with your mom 😖😂

@Wxtst.3

3 жыл бұрын

jeteaze Wow that sounds amazing! I would have thought they’d be arrogant or controlling about what they know.

I think Ross isn’t understanding that this is the first time in Rachel’s life that she’s realized she can do something for herself, her first career oriented job that actually meant something.

@monabohamad2242

3 жыл бұрын

what does it matter whether or not he understood? people do crazy irrational weird stuff when they're in love Lol

@mariamolina4777

3 жыл бұрын

Mona Bohamad2 it does matter LMAO otherwise you can't really say you are in love when being in love and in a relationship doesn't mean to have things just go your way and according to only your feelings. There's someone else there to consider and be supportive of. If not, that's not really love, that's probably just obsession or fear of being alone lol

@vishuyadav8186

3 жыл бұрын

Maria Molina Rachel was like a bird for Ross. Just like people love adore their Bird and feed them with so much love but they completely ignore that the bird wants to fly too.

@pmw5422

3 жыл бұрын

Mona Bohamad2 that’s what a lot of abusive partners say

@pmw5422

3 жыл бұрын

Francisco Leyva Martin I know he wasn’t abusive. I just meant that justifying crazy, irrational actions by saying “I’m in love” isn’t always right.

Two people with very different personalities at different points in their lives. Ross is established, while Rach is trying hard to establish her career.

@woodswitchprints

3 жыл бұрын

Right, I think a lot of people really gloss over how significant a problem that is, and why Ross's behavior is so inappropriate. Ross worked for years on his doctorate. Can you imagine if he had a girlfriend doing this crazy clingy stuff to him while he's prepping for exams? All that chaos and the constant mental accountability that you have to balance and stay on top of, and then there's this partner who literally cannot give you space to succeed for the time it takes. It demonstrates how much Ross literally does not care about Rachel's investment in her future if it inconveniences him.

@vishuyadav8186

3 жыл бұрын

Chelsea T. Mona was the best. Even when Rachel was pregnant Ross was still wooing women.

@woodswitchprints

3 жыл бұрын

@@vishuyadav8186 She really was incredibly understanding. Didn't Ross dump her because she made Christmas cards that featured them as a couple?

@neostar63

3 жыл бұрын

This. The latter point in particularly problematic, most people should take this into account when finding a suitable partner they can live and grow together with.

@vishuyadav8186

3 жыл бұрын

Chelsea T. Yeah exactly. Also it was Mona who came looking for Ross. It rarely happens that a beautiful girl is trying to find someone in a big city.

I think how their relationship is at the end is awful too. Ross does everything he can so that Rachel doesn't move to Paris for her dream job then tells her how he feels just as she gets on the plane so she doesn't know how to feel. In the future Rachel would resent Ross for not letting her go to Paris and try out her dream.

@monabohamad2242

3 жыл бұрын

Dreams are overrated AF anyways

@vishuyadav8186

3 жыл бұрын

No they won’t. I think Jennifer Aniston understands Rachel better than anyone that’s why she pursuaded the writers to write a better ending.

@janefehr2028

3 жыл бұрын

Mona Bohamad2 nah dreams > relationship anytime. You can always find another partner but you won’t always get another shot at your dream.

@neostar63

3 жыл бұрын

Politely disagree . Rachel is an adult and can make her own decisions. We don’t know the exact reasons why she decided to stay, but she had them. They have a child together perhaps having the opportunity to raise Emma in a loving household with parents who love each other was her highest priority? Remember Rachel grew up in an affluent household with parents in a loveless marriage. For all we know, a stable family life is a more important want for her. Best Regards,

@ni3070

3 жыл бұрын

The show intended to show that they do Move to Paris actually

Next relationship analysis : Dwight and Jim

@janewayistheway7957

3 жыл бұрын

You’d need a series to break down that dynamic

@NAshlieify

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please!!!

@estersilva7804

3 жыл бұрын

LOL pleeeeease

@thepolarbearsarelife

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@lissifajen185

3 жыл бұрын

YES!

My biggest problem with this episode and the story line is the fact that there’s no way that Joey and Chandler would have left Ross drunk at the bar. It was 100% in conflict with their characters.

@drena278

3 жыл бұрын

Good point

@Olivia_Neumann

3 жыл бұрын

Ross left with the Xerox girl, and Joey and Chandler couldn't find him, nor was Ross that drunk. He starts making out with her after only a couple beers, still being very aware of his surroundings. This is just my reading of the incident.

@brendatomines8171

2 жыл бұрын

And they were also hitting on the xerox girl, how could they not be paying attention to them? That makes no sense

@kitsunehikaru-4268

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendatomines8171 The Xerox girl clearly didn’t have any interest in them. It was logical that they didn’t hog her the whole night. Plus Chandler was the one who told Ross to go talk to Rachel, and they told Ross that when they didn’t see him anymore, they assumed he was with Rachel. Which was, again, logical if they expected him to go talk to her.

@SemmeralddynamicsBaammy

7 ай бұрын

​@@Olivia_NeumannA "couple" is not that drunk? How do you know Ross's alcohol intake?

"Ross is playing a game ... He always wants Rachel's attention" Yesssss. This is so true.

I know a lot of Friends fans are going to hate me but I hated Ross. For one, he dismisses Rachel's job not once but twice when she got Louis Vuitton's job in France. Always trying to sabotage her dating life. Second, Ross always disagreeing with Phoebe's spiritual beliefs because there is only one ideal way of thinking. Third, marrying Emily when he clearly still loved Rachel as if she was second best. Fourth, and even though this was the 90's just the whole ordeal with his ex-wife. Ross always puts himself superior to other women and always cries as the victim. I think there was something that I read that said, if Ross was never Monica's brother Carol would have gotten the group after their divorce. Edit: More stuff that he did. Never standing up for Monica between her and her parents. Ross writing a pros and cons list about if he should date Julie or Rachel (parts of which was also about their physical appearance). Ross not telling Mona he was living with Rachel. Ross creating, "I hate Rachel club" when they were in High School. Ross being rude to the male nanny because he was a guy. Ross also not letting his son play with dolls and instead forced him to play with action figures.

@weasleynmunatoti

3 жыл бұрын

I hate Ross too! I remember watching friends as a kid and Ross was my favourite, but on my rewatches I've started to despise him more and more. He never defended Monica when their parents were clearly favouring him over her, he was awful towards the male nanny Rachel wanted to hire, and he was honestly an awful boyfriend to baiscally all his partners.

@linseyem92

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never liked Ross, even as a kid I couldn’t stand him.

@nannasrensen7674

3 жыл бұрын

Disagreeing with someones spiritual beliefs whn they're clearly as craxy as Phoebes (and often risk doing harm to others like with the whole "this cat is my mom"-thing) is okay. Letting someone believe whatever they want to quietly is something entirely different. I agree with the thing about Rachels job though.

@xaviconde

3 жыл бұрын

I think the writers pushed too far to make Ross a bad guy so it was easier to have them break up. During season 1 and 2 Ross was a nicer guy. And Rachel is quite spoiled, she destroyed Ross's relationship with Julie, Emily and Mona. They're terrible to each other yet perfect for each other too.

@mickeyguajacho9827

3 жыл бұрын

@Realityruinedmylife Hmm, not really haha. None of the characters hurt others besides the way Joey not caring about the women he dated. But towards the end, he started actually caring about them.

Blah I can’t watch friends anymore because their relationship is so outdated. He is so controlling and emotionally abusive. I do like Richard and Monica’s relationship and there are parts of Monica and Chandler’s relationship I like too. The difference is that Chandler is aware of Monica’s insecurities and works with her and helps her out, supports her, and it’s sweet.

@estherluciano9623

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Monica and Chandler grew together, supported each other, had arguments and disagreements but talked them out and were a healthy and realistic relationship imo.

@hollywoodshopaholic

3 жыл бұрын

Why is the blame always on Ross? She's emotionally manipulative af and goes back to him whenever he's in a happy relationship with someone else. She loves knowing she has control over him, too.

@cassoIa

3 жыл бұрын

hollywoodshopaholic I guess he’s a bit of a showboater at times that overshadows Rachel’s behaviour a tad. She can be more logical but he’s so insecure about his dating life that he will do anything to rub it in her face and belittled her when he has someone on the hook in front of her. If you listen to any argument he’s in there’s normally a sense of undermining the other person and picking at their weaknesses. It’s always blaming the other party which is why Ross is gonna be hated more

@hollywoodshopaholic

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassoIa I get what you mean about Ross being more over-the-top but never picked up on him belittling others, or at least any more so than Rachel. He certainly argues to win but generally by picking holes in other people's logic or intelligence (which, let's face it, is kind of the point of an argument). Rachel often hits below-the-belt when fighting with people and criticizes them for very shallow reasons, so it's kind of a wash for me. Agree to disagree, I guess :)

@estherluciano9623

3 жыл бұрын

@@hollywoodshopaholic yup. She was childish, selfish, bratty, spoilt and inmature. Both of them were super toxic and damaging.

When Ross brings Rachel a picnic at lunch, he did that out of jealousy, not just actually because he wanted to see her and bring her lunch

@effiehagan654

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. They didnt even watch the lead up to scenes. It was almost like watching out of context

@hyde52292

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but she was just as jealous. Almost every time he tried to move on she got jealous and possessive and tried to ruin it. At times she didn't want him but didnt want anyone else to have him.

@idkok777

3 жыл бұрын

@Aisling.. I don't think so.. he gave the earlier gifts out of jealousy when Mark still worked with her.. he brought the picnic basket and stuff out of genuine love and affection to celebrate their anniversary..

@bhargavrao4752

3 жыл бұрын

Mark left the job before this happened

@MuricaTurkey

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It was an attempt to control and possess her, not to be sweet. It wasn't just jealousy about Mark. It was jealousy that her life didn't revolve around him. He was awful.

Okay when are we going to get a full season of friends therapy commentary

@melindoranightsilver9298

3 жыл бұрын

I would watch it

@lesleyfairbairn3899

3 жыл бұрын

I'm here for it

@AshleyNicole-ct7gh

3 жыл бұрын

Francisco Leyva Martin what is your deal troll?

Imagine if Rachel turned to Ross and said its just a job

@anjab-1769

3 жыл бұрын

She'd be the "crazy" or "hysterical" girlfriend. For sure.

@samanthacharlton4123

3 жыл бұрын

She is the "crazy girlfriend" already.

@preston6618

3 жыл бұрын

If she did, it will be justified. You never pick a job over the person you love.

@anjab-1769

3 жыл бұрын

@@preston6618 wrong. You should never ever sacrifice your dreams or job for anyone. If someone is right for you they'll support you and your dreams. If anyone asks you to throw away your source of income or happiness, it's a major red flag

@Noah_ol11

3 жыл бұрын

@@anjab-1769 but she is not a great girlfriend , none of them , they were toxic for each other and the others

On a similar note: it would be interesting to hear about the therapists' view of Normal People, how Connell and Marianne develop a co-dependent, almost symbiotic relationship

@herreguda6199

3 жыл бұрын

Omg, yess!

@andra2996

3 жыл бұрын

YES, THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA

@sadiabegum1099

3 жыл бұрын

YESS

I wanna see them do Harley and The Joker so that some of y’all will finally get how not cute and unromantic.

@AC-ze1nh

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, I've been lucky enough to chat with Bruce Timm and Paul Dini (Harley's creators) and they meant for Harley and Joker to be obviously toxic. It was never supposed to be romantic in the slightest. I'm glad they've kept them broken up in the comics, Birds of Prey, and the Harley animated series.

@penname8441

3 жыл бұрын

+

@taliamason7986

3 жыл бұрын

@@AC-ze1nh Except that completely contradicts her character. Timm and Dini's clear intentions behind her in Batman TAS was that she is so obsessed and drawn to Mr J that she cannot ever truly escape him no matter how hard she tried. That was evident more so in Season 4 where even though she starts off living with Poison Ivy, she ends up crawling back to him because she feels he is the only one that gives her purpose. The whole idea is she is so damaged and traumatised on a psychological level that she finds it impossible to let him go. That's what that great episode of her origins is all about towards the end of series is all about where she is giving therapy to the Joker as Dr Harleen Quinzel until the tables reverse and Harley Quinn is born.

@daisieswitch24

3 жыл бұрын

@@taliamason7986 yeah that's toxic, she was obsessed with him and excused his abusive behevior

@BlessedBeyondCompare

3 жыл бұрын

I loved Harley and Batman in that ONE episode haha. I wish she would have ended up with him. Joker was so unhinged and abusive... hated it. I know Harley could be that way too but it was usually in response to his violence.

I would love to see them discuss Marshall and Lily's relationship on How I Met Your Mother!! I feel like they're an example of a healthy relationship that went through a few ups and downs at the beginning, but I'd also really like to hear their perspective on the "pause" for any argument.

Re: They didn't understand what the break means... As much as I always thought this whole thing was wrong and Ross was totally in the wrong to run into another woman's arms that night, Rachel totally meant what he thought she meant. The next morning, she wants to be his girlfriend again. They both knew "we were on a break," but I find the ultimate question is if Ross should have been with someone on the night they broke up.

@konstellashon1364

3 жыл бұрын

Also, there was the part where Rachel invited that guy over to have someone to talk to, when Ross called. So in his defense, he mistakenly thought she was already moving on.

@sleepykitty1985

3 жыл бұрын

Konstellashon excellent point! I still blame him for his actual choices, but they are both so guilty of not communicating well over twenty whatever years as VF says. Like when she accepts no blame in the letter and wants him to accept it all before she’ll move on.

@xotennisxgirlox

3 жыл бұрын

They’re both problematic. I mean I always judged Ross because I could never understand how you can say you love someone but then hook-up with someone else that SAME night just because you’re hurting? Regardless of if they actually “broke up” or not, a normal loving person doesn’t just seek out someone else the day after a break-up. But yes, Ross was clearly still in love with Rachel when he did what he did. And Rachel still loved Ross even though she threatened a break-up with him. Yes, Mark came over, but he came over as a friend and Ross chose to sleep with that girl to deliberately hurt Rachel because he thought she was sleeping with Mark.

@melvina628

3 жыл бұрын

Ross is an infant, hence all the puppy dog eyes, pouting, and whining. He's adorable, but he's definitely emotionally stunted.

@sleepykitty1985

3 жыл бұрын

CNoelle agreed!

I always thought who cares if they were or weren't on a break. That same night HE SLEEPS WITH SOMEONE ELSE?!?! even if they were broken up and rachel believed they were too, she'd still be pissed, cause a couple hours after they broke up he slept with someone else

@csillakaszas7285

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin you should hone your skills in rhetoric, because that's not how you argue. also: yes.

@rudiegotbetter8730

3 жыл бұрын

@@csillakaszas7285 There were a lot of factors in that as the people in the video explain. Ross did it as he was in pain and needed someone. And Rachel knew exactly what she meant when she said break.

@jmonta21

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but he believes she’s doing the same thing. Mark answered the phone when he called. He thought she was moving on that night too.

@raissacaba9826

3 жыл бұрын

He was drunk.

@Anna-vg3ne

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmonta21 yes, I actually agree with you. Always wonder, why nobody is pointing this out. He was always jealous of Mark (and as it turns out later - for a good reason, Mark actually liked Rachel) and when he calls to apologise and make up after huge fight, Mark is there eating :)) (he obviously came so fast cuz he realized he can win Rachel when she is vulnerable and hurt by Ross, Mark is sorta sleeze ball). Ross thought she was already cheating on him with Mark. Not that this totally excuses what Ross did, but it explains it a little

Are we really acting like Ross gifting her that picnic basket was a nice gesture? It was just out of jealousy lmao

@user-sg4ov7ng4h

3 жыл бұрын

wasn't she jealous too

@cielogwyneth

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-sg4ov7ng4h that doesn't negate the fact that Ross did that out of jealousy.

@pbsrinidhi

3 жыл бұрын

He did not do that out of jealousy. Mark had already quit the job for a better one. He brought that basket because it was their anniversary.

@desiraesherwood

3 жыл бұрын

@@pbsrinidhi lol no he did it to mark his territory, I see right through that

@pbsrinidhi

3 жыл бұрын

@@desiraesherwood that was before, when he went there with gifts and sent a band. Yes, he was jealous but on their anniversary he just wanted to be with his girlfriend.

Lol when they cut in "Pivot!"

This was awesome, the best one so far. 5:26 Rachel: "But, I told you that I didn't have the time," and Ross: "Yeah, well, you never have the time," are too different conversations. They're both right, but not on the same emotional level. Ross should not expect to have his required, long, drawn-out, personal conversation that he's talking about at Rachel's workplace, especially when she's under a real time crunch. 20:02 Excellent observation.

@Sweethearts4969

2 жыл бұрын

Yess! Exactly, everyone in the comments was bringing up past mistakes of the characters but in reality ross was being inappropriate. if he wanted to do something nice, drop off food with flowers or some chocolates. Dont interupt her already busy workday, its not professional and not as thoughtful as people would think 🤦🏽‍♀️

@MerelvandenHurk

2 жыл бұрын

Your observation that they are two different conversations is incredibly sharp and true. And it's very important to be able to distinguish that! Rachel just wanted to communicate that that particular moment wasn't a good moment, while Ross suddenly opened the conversation about her availability in general. Which is not a topic to bring up _especially_ when your partner just said they don't have the time XD

Rachel explicitly told Ross that she didn't want him to date anyone else, cause she wanted him to be there for her and the baby 24/7. He agreed to this (which I think is the right thing to do) but that's why he is outraged that she is all of a sudden out having fun meeting people when he's actively putting his life on hold for her

@Leondragon06

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@411onThem

3 жыл бұрын

You dropped this 👑

@yenireevalero5639

3 жыл бұрын

That's exacly what I was thinking, that's why he got so angry when that, although he didn't manage well 😂😂

@violettababenko4847

3 жыл бұрын

Umm nope, he didn’t ask her not to date. It’s so paternalistic to say I’m taking care of the baby and you’re out with guys? Um she’s taking care of the baby too and you are the father!!!

@MrRahbech

3 жыл бұрын

@@violettababenko4847 I didn't say he asked her to not date, but if she asks him to be at her beck and call 24/7, I personally think it's fair to expect the same both ways, not one side getting preferential treatment. Not saying she shouldn't date, just saying that she's the one who asked him not to, so at least she shouldn't be angry when he calls her out on doing what she asked him not to do. Either none of them should date or both of them should have the option, that's my opinion. There is no need to make this a gender issue, it's just about being upfront. I'm not arguing that she's not taking care of the baby btw, they both are. Just want things to be equal.

I will admit Ross isn’t the greatest person around and he and Rachel weren’t good for each other; but she was just as selfish as he was. There were so many times when she meddled in his relationships and messed with his head just as soon as he was starting to get comfortable with some and over her. She was just as toxic to him as he was to her.

@blue_sweater

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Rachel was not better but yet Ross gets all hate. Lol

@konstantinosmichail450

3 жыл бұрын

thank you. they showed scenes where only ross was bad, but Rachel was equally bad

@joannaremaneses

3 жыл бұрын

Ross gets all the hate because he is not as physically attractive as Rachel is. For most people, it's okay to be a terrible person if you're hot, which Rachel definitely is. 🔥

So stonewalling is what it is when my husband just walks out of the room and next time he comes back in it is like the conversation never happened?

@mahaimtiaz947

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Design____ByS

3 жыл бұрын

That would drive Beatrix Kiddo level insane

@djawnsjhilson218

3 жыл бұрын

Could also be gaslighting or rug sweeping if you want other language to look up. And knowing those help tremendously.

@justajumpingypsygirl

3 жыл бұрын

@@djawnsjhilson218 rugsweeping.... that sounds more akin to his mindset usually

@Dauerglotzer123

3 жыл бұрын

Id say rugsweeping and stonewalling. I stone wall (trying not to) but when I've been able to calm down I want to talk it out and solve it instead of moving on. I just need to process my feelings for a second.

Uncommon opinion: Ross and Rachel's relationship was toxic. Everyone I tried to say that to, they would respond with "What? I would LOVE a relationship like Ross and Rachel's!" That always would make me nauseous

@imsadlol4528

3 жыл бұрын

that is quite possibly the most common opinion in the history of the world

@ShawolB2uty21

3 жыл бұрын

@@imsadlol4528 you’d be surprised

@FatimaL9294

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin Oh god, get over your weird love in with ross who is fictional on every reply you weirdo

@marinaoliveira8989

3 жыл бұрын

That should be a more popular opinion. It was definitely a toxic relationship

@sophianeck1854

3 жыл бұрын

I agree it was super Toxic

They should do also an analysis of Monica's and Chandlers relationship

I’m a single person, but it’s so interesting to hear this stuff and to apply some of the issues to my close platonic relationships. Taking notes!

I love how they are not completely bashing on Ross and Rachel because I'm sick of people just labelling them as toxic. People nowadays are so quick to label everything as healthy or toxic. You gotta understand that relationships evolve. Infact they HAVE TO keep evolving otherwise they'll fade away. Sometimes relationships have toxic starts, they have toxic moments. People have toxic moments but that doesn't mean you should dismiss them altogether and not bother.

@gourvigupta1190

3 жыл бұрын

the only opinion that mattered tbh

@dulce8608

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. After this video, I realized that they really needed to find a way to communicate and heal. Maybe seeing a therapist? He was able to find his dream job and himself before she had the chance to even think about providing for herself and they were on different paths. They needed time to grow alone, so they could thrive together

@breanabrown2274

3 жыл бұрын

This☝️

@girlysword

3 жыл бұрын

I also loved how they talked about the relationship. I don't think a relationship like Ross and Rachel's would have a happy ending in real life, but their problems aren't solely the responsibility of either Ross or Rachel and their problems weren't the result of Ross or Rachel being bad people. They had fundamental misunderstandings that they never fully communicated and they refused to let go and either allow their relationship to evolve or to actually move on, forever staying in the limbo of "not together but unable to fully commit to any other relationship".

@sexyblackcharlery

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Please do Lily and Marshall (HIMYM).

@nadiajahani4092

3 жыл бұрын

yesssssssss

@K1ng1995

3 жыл бұрын

I hated Lily

@ia4835

3 жыл бұрын

Ted and Robin 😒😒

@athenalin6737

3 жыл бұрын

@@K1ng1995 Wait, me too... no one else sees how selfish lily is!!

@AlienIschozar

3 жыл бұрын

Lily is toxic to everyone ... she wants to be the center of attenion

Despite their feelings and love, by the middle of the series, Ross didn't understand that Rachel's job was her dream and Rachel didn't understand that she was his*. And it's interesting because it seems that Ross is looking at their relationship with rose-tinted glasses, but at Rachel herself with dark tinted glasses. Conversely, Rachel looks at Ross with rose-tinted glasses and their relationship with dark tinted glasses. I think they begin to align better in the last season and that's why they finally click. Great video! *Edit: I meant this as an implied parallel sentence -- Rachel's dream was her job and Rachel didn't understand that she as Ross's _dream_ -- as in, their priorities had different values in the seasons they were together.

@nanditasikka6666

3 жыл бұрын

She was his??? What.. Are we living in the 18th century tf..

@mars_mayday

3 жыл бұрын

@@nanditasikka6666 Sorry, "she was his" as in "she was his dream", not "she was his property". I'll make an edit so it's clearer!

In fairness to Ross, he actually gave up dating while Rachel was pregnant because she asked him to, so she did owe him the conversation of when to start dating again.

@foolslayer9416

Жыл бұрын

That's the bare minimum of not being a shithead.

ross is toxic, but no one is more toxic than ted mosby.

@userr23456

3 жыл бұрын

How? Can you elaborate

@eleo_b

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think so? I do not like Ted Mosby, but I think he’s way nicer than Ross.

@diamondheart1580

3 жыл бұрын

I've always thought this and im glad someone else thinks that too

@heavyblue4985

3 жыл бұрын

How is Ted toxic?

@janinebraul3954

3 жыл бұрын

@@heavyblue4985 He never took Robins no seriously for example. That's a huge boundary issue (he also stole the instrument thing in the first episode for her if I remember correctly. Another boundary violation and also criminal). He was super preoccupied and possessive of her throughout the whole series. The guy had a very overbearing, stalker-like personality in general as far as I remember and always thought he knew what's best for other people, not respecting their own opinion.

I always looked at Ross and Rachel's relationship like the high school couple that were ALWAYS together and ALWAYS breaking up. They never seemed to STAY together or STAY apart. They could never figure it out.

You guys need to anaylze Amy Farrah Fowler and Sheldon Cooper. Is she not in a pseudo emotionally abusive relationship part of the time? And the double irony is that Mayim is a real scientist and Jim Parsons has got to be one of the nicest humans alive. She should know she's in a bad relationship AND her parents don't really make sense why she would stay.

@Jjlinny

3 жыл бұрын

This.

@liamisaac1152

3 жыл бұрын

Haven’t watched Big Bang theory in a while cause it always felt like trash to me and unfunny but was their anything in particular that made it an emotionally abusive relationship?

@annabelvb

3 жыл бұрын

There are additional layers in that relationship in terms of Asperger’s type behaviours etc - it would be interesting to have their professional take on that

@immacentaur8793

3 жыл бұрын

I like them better than Leonard and Penny...

@ky4864

3 жыл бұрын

Imma Centaur omg thank you! There is NO REASON leanord and penny should be together. They bring out the worst in each other and have different goals/values.

I just think that she shouldn't have gotten off the plane

@estherluciano9623

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT. She worked hard for her dreams and just left it all for a guy that was soooo toxic, controlling, jealous, insecure, bratty, manipulative, that cheated on her (jury's still out on that) and always saw her as someone inferior.

@monabohamad2242

3 жыл бұрын

@@estherluciano9623 a) Nah there are a bazillion people who agree with the idea that Rachel shouldnt have gotten off that plane b) I somehow doubt that Ross ever actually saw Rachel as inferior even if he did so what big deal and c) Love is blind

@oatmilkmaid3781

3 жыл бұрын

correct

@nasrisyahaniahmadlutfi1104

3 жыл бұрын

Esther Luciano they're both toxic and jealous and insecure and bratty and manipulative. That's the problem.

@estherluciano9623

3 жыл бұрын

@@nasrisyahaniahmadlutfi1104 yup

I'd also like to add that I feel like their gernal lives are set up differently. I've worked both in fashion and museums in NYC. Rachel's career is high production, high time-commitment, and high stress. Ross' job in an non profit is more about process and is far slower pace than her job. they live 40+ hours a week in the psychological space that leads to this fight

Now Monica and Chandler!!!

@LilySaintSin

3 жыл бұрын

They had much healthier relationship

Clearly their relationship was unhealthy a lot/most of the time. When I was younger I shipped Ross & Rachel, but the older I got, the more I understood that Mondler was the real deal. However, David Schwimmer was PERFECT portraying Ross, he was one of the best actors on the show.

@nikhilmhatre3473

3 жыл бұрын

Yes monic and Chandler were very good with each other. They are very supportive of each other and unlike Ross and Rachel, they never undermine each other.

They weren't good for each other.

@greyerbaby3323

3 жыл бұрын

Kuldeep Kashyap 🙌 They were so toxic.

@estherluciano9623

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no, I won't change your mind. They were a TERRIBLE COUPLE.

@monabohamad2242

3 жыл бұрын

What does it matter Lol

@monabohamad2242

3 жыл бұрын

Probably cuz they were fictional and a part of a sitcom made to make people laugh Lol

@kuldeepkashyap909

3 жыл бұрын

@@monabohamad2242 all of us have real life examples of couples like them

They’re cutting Ross way too much slack.

@effiehagan654

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@danidkg4071

3 жыл бұрын

agreed. i felt kinda bad for him too when he tried to surprise rachel, but he just refuses to listen

Let's be honest no one would date Ross in real life. Even if someone did it won't last long. He is immature and over bearing and selfish.

@melissawellington9924

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@abbiepierson7921

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@chichang9377

3 жыл бұрын

How?

@xaviconde

3 жыл бұрын

You're describing 99% of the people who date, Tinderwise.

@immacentaur8793

3 жыл бұрын

I would date him...he's passionate and caring...but you're right,that relationship wouldn't last either...he will show his true self, become obsessive and needy bcoz he still got issues with his ex wife...

FRIENDS is one of my favourite TV shows ever.... I love how they analysed the situation, the acting, and the context behind all of the scenes. Please do more of these videos!

ok, but was ross's picnic surprise actually a sweet surprise tho? rachel specifically said "i'm sorry ross but i don't have time, please DON'T come to my office" and he showed up anyway. even if it's an objectively sweet gesture, i'd be pretty pissed as well if someone did that to me after i told them i DID NOT want that/wasn't available at the moment.

ive been asking for this in-depth of an analysis of them for ages, this needs more views. i definitely love how open these two were to each others differing perspectives and how they never really deemed ross or rachel as the wrong one.

These two do a really good job. Balanced, reasonable, and courteous in disagreement.

Please do Monica and Chandler next. They do not need therapy actually but please.

This recommendation is unrelated but please do a review on Meredith and Derek in 'Grey's Anatomy'!

@sassypants7536

3 жыл бұрын

Oh i'd love to see that one!

@whitneymouse

3 жыл бұрын

Omg, also a train wreck! They’re just as bad as Rachel and Ross. I don’t want any of them to be together

@uai-anchow98

2 жыл бұрын

Omg yasssssssss

I've been re-watching Friends during this lockdown and I just finished watching the episodes when they break up for the first time, and then this video popped up. I really enjoyed the analyses here and dialogue between the therapists - I like how empathetic they are and the insights they bring to the dynamic between Rachel and Ross.

i love that the majority of comments here truly are able to understand healthy relationshiippsss 😍 i hope y'all are in healthy relationships as well!!! ... cos im single for this reason lmaaoo, there's so much more to learn still

they both act quite childish and immature when neither gets what they want, Rachel tries to sabotage ross's relationships with, Julie, bonnie, Emily and others just because she isn't with him. ross narrow-mindedly thinks that any guy who is possible date material that isn't him shouldn't be with rachel because he childishly wants the ideal relationship and doesn't understand and listen to what rachel wants.

Ross and Rachel were for the audience, not an example of a relationship.

@stephaniemasson1224

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I feel like too many TV shows care more about throwing in drama to keep things interesting, so Ross and Rachel being on and off all the time was to leave the audience on expectation to see them finally get together. Which, to be fair, can be entertaining to watch, but in reality, spending 10 years fighting and making up with someone without ever getting it right, sounds exhausting.

@madladiesscientists6894

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniemasson1224 it is. Communication is key.

@dvchel

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniemasson1224 Well, it was exhausting already watching the "on- and off-relationship" going on since February, 1997. There is a reason season 8 blew new life into the show and that was Rachel and Ross getting back together with their pregnancy. Then, in season 9 and 10 the ratings took a nose dive again, because millions didn't want to see their on- and off-relationship again. Add the terribly contrived Rachel/Joey vs Ross/Charlie plot and it only added more fuel to Friends coming to an end in season 10 sooner than later. Millions still observe to this day that Rachel and Ross had so much more to give in the show. The series finale just being the tip of the iceberg for pretty much between season 4 and 10.

@FiddlebirdBlue

3 жыл бұрын

But basically every relationship we see as an audience is an example of a relationship. Maybe not a god one or one the writers intend us to take seriously, but a lot of people do. Just Google all the teenagers doing godawful s**t after watching Netflix's nightmare garbarge "365 Days" ...

I always feel very bad for people saying they look up to this relation like ..wow that is a real LOW couplegoal xD Like honnestly we all knew they would end up together but in real life ?.. They would have broke up 2 months after the end of the show lmao

Ok ok ok ok, but this is so professional and brilliant and talented acting, that i sometimes i think this was real

Incredible video. I know these scenes almost by heart due to watching them so much (we had the box sets but no cable back in the early Aughts) but these were some fresh and interesting ways to think about them!

I was always on Rachel’s side on this. But listening to their analysis made me realize they were both at fault.

@dvchel

3 жыл бұрын

@liz t Excellent points! Add Rachel's naivety about Mark, his motives and efforts to mess with her relationship with Ross to the equation too. Take for example, instead of taking Ross' warnings and that of the group seriously about Mark and stop seeing him, she went along foolhardy and neglecting her relationship with Ross on the way.

@charliefen

2 жыл бұрын

@@dvchel I never get the hate for Mark. He had a girlfriend at the time (one that Ross saw Mark with), that should have been enough to stop Ross and his jealousy. Mark never once made a move on Rachel when she was with Ross. And even if he had, it didn’t mean Rachel was going to respond to him!

This was great but I'm surprised they skipped the part in Season 4 when Ross was about to get married and Rachel tried to stop his wedding. Also, they forgot to mention during that fight in Season 9 that they agreed not to see other people prior to that.

I still don't know how much of Ross's "we were on a break" alibi stays true to what he thought "we were on a break" meant in that moment. It just seems like he's trying to cover up his impulsiveness as "premeditated action" (despite the fact that he'd been drinking).

@DianeHampson

3 жыл бұрын

They should've established what that meant and what they were and weren't allowed to do during their break.

@KurosakiMintaka

3 жыл бұрын

He called her apartment and Mike picked up the call. So he thought Rachel was cheating on him.

@Vivi_9

3 жыл бұрын

@@KurosakiMintaka She effectively was.

@Vivi_9

3 жыл бұрын

@JW McCabe she had Mark up in her flat after going on a break. Duhhh

it isnt even a question of "were they on a break" but really, "Was it okay for Ross to have a one night stand and was it valid for Rachel to not forgive him"

@csillakaszas7285

3 жыл бұрын

exactly! for me, it's like they crossed the bridge with the breakup, and then Ross burnt it down with the hookup (and consequent lie) Yes, he had the right to do what he did - and so did Rachel to not get back together with him.

@lilyblue3205

3 жыл бұрын

I think the real question is something not shown here which is all the trouble he was willing to go through in order to make sure that Rachel never found out. Had he just told her, even if he painted himself as a victim (very very drunk, in pain, clearly taken advantage of), especially if he was upfront and said he was the victim, but admitted to some blame, they could have talked it out then

@CGZ26

3 жыл бұрын

@@lilyblue3205 exactly. He was running all over the place asking people not to tell her, instead of talking to her.

@RandomCarrot2806

3 жыл бұрын

@@CGZ26 Doesn't he literally tell Chandler in that episode that he is doing that so he can be the one to tell her and explain his side of the story or am I remembering that wrong?

@bluegreen5377

3 жыл бұрын

@@RandomCarrot2806 He did, but he was very easily swayed by Chandler and Joey to not tell her. Same happened with that list of reasons to be and/or not with Julie and Rachel.

The reason why Ross is upset when Rachel kisses the guy on the balcony is because when she was pregnant she asked him to not see anyone else, and he agreed to stay single indefinitely.

@benjamen7118

3 жыл бұрын

Thats on him

@ShawolB2uty21

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the way I saw that is that it was a request until the birth. Pregnant women tend to need help and they are very sensitive. But honestly they should’ve discussed it and communicated better, they were not setting themselves up for succcess st all.

Please continually produce new segments with Zach and Laura! I am currently reading a Gottman book, which is what they are both certified in. Comparing what they are saying and what I am reading makes it fun to connect the dots of what I have been reading. My boyfriend and I watch these and have a open discussion on our thoughts which we then relay to our couples therapist. Truly a wonderful concept for those who thought to do these videos!

"I would hate to be the other person in this triad." And this is why I sympathize with Emily. LOL

No way, I have zero empathy for Ross. He looks down on everyone, treats everyone below them, and gets upset when things don't go his way. Then manipulates everyone by being pathetic. He's awful.

@JaxLittles

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin Hahaha what are you even trying to say?

@JaxLittles

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin Hahaha! If you're best insult is unintelligible name calling, then it 100% makes sense why you back Ross. Bahahaha. The ignorance is hilarious.

@janinebraul3954

3 жыл бұрын

Monica is pretty similar, too. Their parents didn't exactly do a great job.

@JaxLittles

3 жыл бұрын

@@janinebraul3954 Yes!!!! 100% agree.

@meghanwilcox5453

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I 100% agree. It would be one thing if Ross genuinely apologized for his mistakes but he takes no accountability for his actions afterwards. It becomes the running joke in the show, “We were on a break!” He is so immature and he is a grown man. He does look down on others for sure. I also hate how the writers let him have many partners throughout the show and let Rachel only a few throughout the series when she is gorgeous and a like-able person. Her character realistically could and would have dated way more guys than Ross women and she would have been strong enough to move on. I feel like there truly are men like Ross in the world who were the nerds growing up who feel entitled to one day getting the girl of their dreams always thinking of themselves as the victim but really they are immature and selfish and that’s why women don’t want them. I also hate that they ended the show with Rachel not going to Paris which was an Incredible opportunity! To be with Ross. And all these people love this show and glorify this extremely unhealthy relationship. Monica and chandler were the way better couple of the show

Couples I Would Love to See Them Analyze Like This (In this Full Video Style): 1. Brooke and Lucas (One Tree Hill) 2. Clark and Lana (Smallville) 3. Barney and Robin (HIMYM) 4. Hyde and Jackie (That’s 70 Show) 5. Dan and Blair (Gossip Girl) 6. Maya and Lucas (Girl Meets World) I picked couples that didn't end up together because I'm curious if things could have worked out between these couples and what they could have done differently.

@impedimxnta

3 жыл бұрын

YES dan and blair!! i remember really rooting for them at the time

@Icyjessy1

3 жыл бұрын

Barney and Robin😍😍

@FacebookQueen

3 жыл бұрын

This would be interesting

@squigglypop8748

3 жыл бұрын

Maya and Lucas was done so dirty

Taking notes for my future spouse.

"I would hate to be the third person in this triad" -- poor Mona. She found that out the hard way.

that three year life cycle thing is mind blowing

@Pacobell2024

3 жыл бұрын

Right?! I would like to know more about that!

This is so well done. I wasn’t expecting it to be this good.

They were both just toxic towards each other. They both play with each other's feelings.

Initially I was thinking, "Kim Cattrall is a marriage therapist?"

I loved how you analyzed and communicate. It's so clear!

Please have these guys back to do the argument scene in marriage story

Wow! That was a thorough breakup of their relationship when they were vulnerable in the show. I particularly liked how you guys picked up those serious moments & conversations in their relationship when they had hard times. Well done guys, gave me more perspective on how Ross and Rachel thought process was in those moments. Thanks & Cheers! Look forward to your next discussion.

Ross was a toddler.

@estherluciano9623

3 жыл бұрын

So was Rachel. She was spoiles, selfish, bratty and inmature. They were both REALLY TOXIC.

@carwynt

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Leyva Martin no ❣

@synkronized

3 жыл бұрын

Francisco Leyva Martin try improving your english grammar first maybe

@DannieDoll

3 жыл бұрын

so was Rachel though, and a narcissist

They really avoid the earlier scenes where he constantly is red-eyed jealous of Mark who is just a friend helping her. His constant possessive attitude.

@dinogranolabars4795

3 жыл бұрын

Just a friend helping her???? He literally admitted he had a crush on her. Im not denying he was her friend but its really obvious he was trying to sabotage their relationship.

@ajnjaajn2816

2 жыл бұрын

Mark literally asked her out as soon as Ross and Rachel broke up 😂

@ruthenictoaster

2 жыл бұрын

Mark asked her out lol and if you remember both chandler and joey said to both Rachel and Ross that a random stranger is never just nice to a girl to be friends

@journeyforever1932

Жыл бұрын

As if Rachel isn't possessive..did you just forget how she obsessed over Ross when he was with Julie, Bonnie and Emily?

Honestly they didn’t touch on all of the scenes that show their relationship. But I think for the most part they brought in interesting perspectives

ohmygosh i LOVE these two i started following their podcast after their first vanity video 💛

I found their podcast after the first VF video they did and I'm so thankful! Marriage therapy radio gives great advice and now these two feel like friends of mine :)

Very well done 👏 It is amazing how their relationship causes so much debate between people who watch this show. It really shows how different people perceive the complexities of relationships, i.e. whether Ross or Rachel was ultimately responsible for their breakup or the cheating. Some people blame Ross, some Rachel, and some both. Some say he deserved to be broken up with, and some simply say they are very immature and don't navigate their relationship in a healthy way.

Do Pam and Jim next! Or The Office couples like Kelly and Ryan and Michael and Jan

@anneb889

3 жыл бұрын

giugiuba2 I would love to see the dinner party with Michael and Jan discussed! Lol.

@melissawellington9924

3 жыл бұрын

That would be awsome

@tobytheshih-tzu6329

3 жыл бұрын

Also Dwight anf Angela! 😂

I would love to see a longer video or another part diacussing their relationship as a whole because there were so many moments that could be analyzed.

after seeing your VF Disney videos I started listening to your podcast and absolutely love it. can't express how enlightening its been and bc you two are so relaxed & funny even my husband listens at times❣️Thank you

despite all your opinions about how healthy and unhealthy this relationship was, the therapists's point actually hit it. their foundation is so strong since they are friends, by friends which mean that has a circle together, care for each other, and always stick together. you can't never really move on if you always hang around it and never leave that circle. that connection is real, if they surpass deeper relationship than it'll always be that way if no one leave or done being friends.

There's this random kid who can't spell in this comment section just screaming at everyone who thinks Ross and Rachel are toxic. Completely ruins any mature conversation Anyways, I really never realised that Ross and Rachel were toxic, I always just saw them as a sort of "a guy who wants to spoil his girl", but I never realised that that's not how life works and that Rachel, even though wanting to be spoilt, wants to have her own life which doesn't suit Ross' neediness and possessiveness

I love when these two do reviews. Please do more!

The thing is... She never said "i wanna a break" Rachel said "MAYBE" and he just left like ?????? Ross was so deep in his fantasy of datting her that when she didnt correspond to his expectations he could hadle it AND LATTER she just ask him to apologize and he was like "you know what i dont think i want to be with you so much to the point that ill have to say that im wrong"

@bluegreen5377

3 жыл бұрын

Remember how Chandler gets cheated on by Kathy and Ross starts saying if she thought they were on a break she didn't do anything wrong? What kind of a friend would go straight to excusing the cheater?

@infravioleta

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluegreen5377 exactly

Laura looks like a modern day Samantha Jones.