I always buy refurbished and have NEVER been disappointed. My theory is that a refurb has had a personal touch to it, an engineer or tech has looked at it and verified that it works and looks good, probably with more detail than the ones rolling off the assembly line.

@ConstantGeekery

Жыл бұрын

I like your theory 👍🏻

My last MacBook Pro was refurbished. I got a solid 10 years out of it, plus a couple of years limping along at the end, until the graphics card died. Apple certified refurbished is the way to go. Just remember to back it up externally (good idea with any computer) and start slowly saving up for its replacement (again, a good idea for most things you own).

I bought an old MacBook Air from Backmarket and am quite happy with it. It came looking almost new and the battery was at 90%. They even give you a 1 year warranty. Impressive for a 2015 Macbook Air. I hope to get about 3 years out of it and I paid $176 incl tax.

Costco had a sale for a week or two and were selling the Max Studio for $1,500 and the Ultra Studio for $3,200. So 20-25 percent off. My understanding is that they are discounting the Mini now. Costco has not been known for big Mac discounts in the past but they may be a good place to get Macs now. They also offer 90-day return and 2 years warranty.

Great insights! Many of my Macs I’ve bought over the years have been refurbished and I’ve been really happy with them. We now as company buy refurbished and are super happy with the savings we make whilst getting quality at the same time.

I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a refurbished computer from Apple. As a Studio Max owner I'm looking forward to your comparison with the MacBook Pro.

I tend to either buy Apple Certified Refurbished or directly from Amazon when they have nice discounts. A business colleague recently bought a new Mac directly from Apple and it was DOA. He returned it and bought one of their refurbs and all was well. Go figure.

Love buying refurbished from Apple. It is the way to go. I just picked a MacBook Pro 14” M2 Max. Loving it.

Friend bought a baseline 14 inch m2 pro MacBook from microcenter that was opened by the employee for $1500 with taxes calculated in. They opened the wrong MacBook to display (space grey rather than silver)

Great Video. Thanks for the content.

Still very happy with my n-2 version apple refurbished iPad Pro, at about 30% off depending on how you determine that. Any downsides I experience is not bc of it being refurbished - came out as-new from the box.

I love my base model M1 MacBook Air, it also came with a new battery. But I had to upgrade to a newer version of macOS. Otherwise, no problems at all, I saved 10% on the new price.

I have looked at what models of refurbished M1/M2 Macs are for sale and it seems that most of them have base level minimum sized SSDs. I suppose that this shows that most people buy the smallest SSDs and so those are the models that are available in returns. This is very disappointing. This is because with M2s at least 256 Gb SSDs are much slower than 512 Gb models. I suffered from this issue when I bought a half price customer return iPhone SE 2020 for £229 from the Tesco outlet eBay store last year. Every single iPhone SE 2020 was the 64 Gb base model and so I was forced to buy the 64 Gb base model to avoid paying twice as much for the 128 Gb model that I would have preferred to own. The good thing about my refurbished iPhone SE 2020 was that it still had 100% battery capacity.

I gave Apple Refurbished a go for a 16” MacBook Pro M1. After opening the box and removing the paper cover the first thing I saw in the front right side of the cover was a stain from a cup, it looked like coffee. I decided to clean it off and proceed. Once the machine was setup I checked the Battery Cycles which was 17. That was fine. I then decided to take a look at the data written to the drive, it was a little over 19GB. without installing any additional software or open any programs I noticed that enormous amounts of data was being written. Within 40 minutes there was over 1 million GB’s of data on the drive. I called Apple Support. They could not figure out the problem and said to just return it. I did notice that there were 4 particular programs writing GB’s per second from each one. I wasn’t too happy about the experience after hearing all the good things about the program but I’ve decided to give it one more try. We shall see what happens.

@ConstantGeekery

11 ай бұрын

Sounds like you got a faulty one - let us know how it goes with the replacement. Hope all is good. 👍🏻

@jims8702

11 ай бұрын

@@ConstantGeekery I decided to give it another try. This time the one I received was in excellent condition with 1 battery cycle and minimal data written to the drive. Seems like someone may have tried it out for a day or two and decided to return it. Very happy with the purchase.

@ConstantGeekery

11 ай бұрын

@@jims8702 really pleased it worked out for you. Enjoy the new machine 😁

in the United States I got the MacBook Pro M1 16 base Certified Refurbished for less than the price of the M2 MacBook Air 15 with 512gb Also a dad buying a MacBook for his son deserved a subscribe regardless.. First time to the channel. Great work top the both of you!

Refurbished is great. Only done so one time, but I did that because I couldn’t find an intel Mac and I wanted one for gigging, and because at the time, running Windows alongside MacOS on M1 wasn’t ready for prime time. This was in 2021, so I managed to snag the last Intel MacBook Air 2020 with 16 GB RAm and 512 GB SSD. I gig with it to this day, but now that VMWare supports Windows 11 pretty decently, when or if this dies, I won’t cry too much. No, not boot-camping, never done so, don’t intend to do so either. For me, as I also do web-testing and consultancy on-site sometimes, being able to show a client that ‘hey, your website works well with X screen-reader under Windows, but fails hard with VoiceOver with Chrome and Safari on MacOS’ is priceless. It’s a bit slow, yes, but it definitely served my needs even with it’s loud fan. On-stage in Logic though, I don’t hear it anyway so don’t care much. Sorry for the long comment haha.

@ConstantGeekery

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Andre 😊 great to hear your experience and love the MacBook Air use case! Many years ago I went to a Goldfrapp gig and the support act (Mountaineers) were using a PowerBook. I was mesmerised by the glowing Apple logo and the cool sounds they were generating. Made me want one so bad!

Great video! Your son’s reaction was sweet. I do not see any reasons as to why someone would buy brand new over refurbished. None. Unless you need to finance the device and pay monthly, then buy brand new. Unfortunately you cannot do the same for a refurbished product-at least not in Canada anyway. I was gifted a refurbished M1 MacBook Air in 2021 and I haven’t had a single issue with it till this day. I remember inspecting that thing for a good 10 minutes after pulling it out of the box. It was immaculate! From that day, I was convinced there were no differences. It led me to a theory: I have a suspicion that Apple uses their refurb store to sell off overstock. Think about it: Why would Apple go through the hassle of replacing almost every component, including the keyboard, screen and casing? They’re basically rebuilding the laptop at that point! Since there is a stigma associated with buying second-hand or refurbished, Apple will always have people who want to purchase brand new. But for those of us who are not concerned with superficialities and want to save some money, a la the “Certified Refurbished Store”. If anything, they will swap out the bottom casing because they have to engrave a new serial number on it. Apple’s refurbished devices always begin with the letter “F”. Take care.

The three previous macs I bought are all Apple refurbished. I don't care about the packaging. All I care is the $ saved. They come with full warranty so why not?

my m1 air was refurbished .... saved me around £150 :) only down side is you have to take what they have.

Sadly no refurbished option in Czech republic... I wonder where the machines from CZ go when returned...

@photovincent

Жыл бұрын

When I traded in some Apple gear I had to send it *to* the Czech republic (from NL), but to be fair that thing wasn’t going to be refurbished but at best turned into parts…

I got an M1 MacBook Air as certified refurbished (upgraded model with 16gb memory and 1tb storage, hard to tell the difference from new, saved £250! I would say worth the saving.

Is it possible to get the US keyboard layout on the certified refurbished products?

@ConstantGeekery

Жыл бұрын

Yes, if you're buying in the US.

Ive only ever bought refurbished apple laptops... And never had any issues with them. The savings are well worth it.

I just bought a refurbished M3 macbook with 24gb of ram and 1tb of storage (8core CPU, 10core GPU) using it for some (not super intense) video editing and for school. I had the option of getting the m3 pro for the same price but with less ram (18gb) but with more cores (11core cpu, 14core gpu). I decided in the end the ram was more important than the cores. I’d love to know ur thoughts!!

Just get one macbook pro m1 pro. and it's working great. I got 11 cycle count of battery. but the health is 100%. All works great

I just purchased an Apple refurbished MBAir M2, 16G/512G. It looks perfect and works perfect. Great video! Thank you!

@ConstantGeekery

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of help - enjoy the new beast! 😁

Thanks for reminding me of the Refurbished Apple Store! Though I can get $50 dollars off using Best Buy for a NEW M1 MacBook Air!!

shell, screen, keyboard and battery are all replaced on MacBooks

I am minutes away from buying a refurbished 2011 MacBook pro 13 on eBay. I hope I don't have buyers remorse, but for $120 I guess I can't complain. I LOVED my old MacBook that died after 13 years and have been trudging through dealing with an awful Dell Inspiron 🤮🤮🤮💩💩💩

Hi is there anyway to buy apple refurbished in europe ? it seem its only posible in us.

@ConstantGeekery

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Scroll to the bottom of the website and look for the link for the refurbished store in the footer. I just checked Germany, France, Spain, Netherlands and Italy, and all have refurb stores. The link will be www.apple.com/de/shop/refurbished - where "de" is the two letter country code for your country.

Can you be my daddy too? lol I bought the M1 Macbook Pro 16" 16GB 512GB, 10 core 16 core. Apple refurbished $2419cad, Amazon was selling them new for $3400 cad. Works great for my needs. Use it maybe 2 times a week, charge battery once a month.

I bought 2 refurb Apples in the mid 2010s one for me one for my Girlfriend.. the biggest mistake I ever ever made. They sucked. They never worked right and died early deaths.

@Beemur

8 ай бұрын

That was more than 10 years ago I'm sure they've massively improved

Great Video!

@ConstantGeekery

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😁

14 inch MBP M3 Pro vs. Refurbished 16 inch MBP M2 Pro I have hard time to decide between brand new MacBook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch with 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD and Refurbished MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16 inch with 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Currently I am using MacBook Pro 16 inch late 2019 on Intel i9 with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD. So, I don’t have any issue with portability at all. The indecisive comes from the M2 Pro vs M3 chip and RAM difference between those 2 machines (36GB RAM on M3 Pro vs 32GB RAM on M2 Pro) Based on those two differences, which one do you think has better value and better investment protection between brand new MacBook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch with 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD and Refurbished MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16 inch with 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD? I am not video editor or digital content creator or any graphic intensive users here. Any valuable input is welcome. Thank you.🙏🏼

@ConstantGeekery

5 ай бұрын

There's not a huge performance difference between M2 Pro and M3 Pro. The M3 Pro is a bit quicker for single-threaded tasks, but that's like saying that one hypercar is slightly faster than another. If the M3 Pro model is the binned chip (11c/14g) and the M2 Pro is the full version (12c/16g), then the M2 Pro actually has more multi-threaded performance, and more GPU performance too (albeit without ray-tracing support). The 16-inch chassis also allows for better thermal performance, so the larger machines can sustain load for longer. I'd expect that any difference between 36GB and 32GB RAM would be very hard to perceive in real-world use. So, it's really down to whether you want the bigger form factor and are happy to run with refurbished, or if you want the latest model brand new.

@sglatitude

5 ай бұрын

@@ConstantGeekery thank you for your valuable insight. My bad for not detailing the 14 inch MBP M3 Pro. It is 12 core CPU and 18 core GPU. The Apple refurbished 16 inch MBP M2 Pro chip specifications is 12 core CPU and 19 core GPU.

Or.... just hear me out. Don't buy Apple at all? You can get a very nice Lenovo Slim Pro with 16 GB RAM/1TB SSD and Intel Core Ultra 7 for about $900 from Lenovo and you don't have to have a used product and you could upgrade the SSD yourself later if you needed to.

Fear not Apple refurbished!

Shout out to Ben 🙂

Which would you choose? Brand new, or refurbished?

@JoeDezibel74

Жыл бұрын

Now that I know they are like brandnew. I would go for a refurbished Mac. I don’t care if the box has an image or not 😬. Why don’t save 15 % if you can?

@aelaan12

Жыл бұрын

I have always opted to purchase refurbished from Apple. The only time I went for a new one was because here in Canada they are always sold out or late to market.

@daisyintherain

Жыл бұрын

I have never bought refurbished, but I would now after watching your video. Thank you for this and for making another great video.

@POVwithRC

Жыл бұрын

I'd probably continue to take brand new. Apple refurbs through third party contractors with less than stellar labour practices and quotas for throughput. What that means in practice is that sure, it may look brand new, but I can't trust that whoever reworked it under contract to Apple took the same care that Apple would. The discount isn't worth it to me. If it's worth it you you, on you go, of course.

@robgreen13

Жыл бұрын

I got a refurbished 2018 15" MacBook Pro i9 (yes, the hot one!) in 2019 and it was my main work machine until recently. It was as-new when I got it and it is still going well as a second machine. Unfortunately my main work machine is now an XPS15 because I develop software for x64, but that's another story!

First 🎉😂

@ConstantGeekery

Жыл бұрын

That was fast! 😁