Sub to my second channel or I'll make you play Redfall: kzread.info/dron/5Pi8DHUItNgbGVhjh4kVgQ.html

@baddreams3850

Ай бұрын

I just have to totally agree that all this is the decision of shareholders and money-driven people. It's important to remember that the individual devs are still those devs. The people that gave us Prey and Bioshock are still out there

@phoenixzappa7366

Ай бұрын

​@@baddreams3850Yeah just not in Arkane Austin 😅

@phoenixzappa7366

Ай бұрын

Arklame 🎉

@darugdawg2453

Ай бұрын

title=me:good. trash gfdsadaga i dont give ashit

@SuperSkaterboy1990

Ай бұрын

Why is that cat like that?

There will be people 10 years from now who join Gamepass and find out... "Wow this game sucked."

@acfeo890

Ай бұрын

Lo😂

@c24nk

Ай бұрын

exactly what I was thinking!

@Scantronacon

Ай бұрын

Hurtful fact my dude. Game or devs dont deserve this at this point in gaming tbh.

@RedRabbit-ZA

Ай бұрын

Gamepass is the only part of Xbox that will exist in 10 years.

@panzer00

Ай бұрын

​@Scantronacon what does "at this point in gaming" mean? The industry as a whole is a disaster at this point in gaming.

It’s wild that these 2 studios are on total opposites of the spectrum and yet both get shut down Arkane Austin makes Redfall: A total disaster, critics hate it, people clown on it and the studio gets shut down Tango Gameworks make Hi-Fi Rush: Critics love it, people saying it’s the best “Xbox exclusive,” it literally won a BAFTA award…. Studio gets shut down. So like you can make bad game or a great game. It doesn’t matter you’ll be shut down for whatever reason. I hate this shit man

@bencarlson4300

Ай бұрын

And Arkane only made Redfall because they were forced to by Bethesda

@happyspaceinvader508

Ай бұрын

Whether critics like a game is irrelevant to shareholders… they care about whether the game sells well and brings in revenue, and neither of these games did.

@Calvin_Coolage

Ай бұрын

​@@happyspaceinvader508Almost like launching games on Game Pass is a boneheaded decision or something

@karenpojar2514

Ай бұрын

Behind the scenes, the ESG money dried up. So now Xbox doesn't have the funds to for payroll. Anyone not releasing a game in the next few months is on the chopping block, as MS can't afford to pay them. It doesn't matter that they spent $200 billion to acquire Zenimax, the pedigree of any studio, or that the game they are working on is a guaranteed hit in three years. MS either cuts them now, or the employees walk when the paychecks bounce. Which leaves the question of

@lookiss8502

Ай бұрын

And 343 are still around..

>grab studio known for good single player immersive sim games >force them to make dogshit looter shooter live service slop in a market saturated with live service slop >it flops (who could've seen this coming?) >fire everyone Arkane deserves better

@josuepviana

Ай бұрын

Arkane wasnt forced by Microsoft. The game was made under Bethesda/Zenimax, MS just didnt interfer, which is what the developers wanted.

@Chevelle3_

Ай бұрын

remember deathloop? it was much better than redfall- what, it was created under sony?😮

@1Medivh9DSparil9JagarTharn4

Ай бұрын

I don't think Arkane is known for Simulators.

@shroudofmartin5052

Ай бұрын

​@@1Medivh9DSparil9JagarTharn4 I can't speak for Prey, since I haven't played it, but the Dishonored games are classed as stealth sims.

@RekashalGames

Ай бұрын

​They are classed as immersive sims. Like deus ex or something of that nature. They are known for environmental puzzle solving and great ai. Except the last two. ​@@shroudofmartin5052

I could care less about Redfall, I hate it for Tango. Hi-Fi Rush deserved far more than this

@EisOfSpades7

Ай бұрын

@@RockerBoy20045 thanks 😂

@WhiteManOnCampus

Ай бұрын

@@RockerBoy20045 Eh, both are correct. "Could care less" is a sarcastic statement, and the tone/cadence with which it's said is almost universally and obviously sarcastic. Yes, "couldn't care less" is more grammatically accurate if you're being 100% honest, but "could care less" still works.

@fairyboy444

Ай бұрын

@@WhiteManOnCampusi never understood this, ever. its never grammatically read or said in a special manner that makes sense. to me, “couldn’t care less” has always been the right way (& for obvious reasons). others who way “could care less” come across as dumb and lacking imo

@kapixniecapix3869

Ай бұрын

Arkane Austin made Pray. Really good imersive sim. It's cheep now. Worth give a shot. Shame bc game had open ending. Mean IP is stil owned by Arkane and Microsoft so they still could make a sequel but chance for that are really low.

@glawio

Ай бұрын

They made Prey (2017), and it’s one of my favorite games of all time. It’s an incredible immersive sim and there’s no game quite like it. I believe they also developed Dishonored which is also widely accepted as a great franchise. Redfall was a game the developers truly did not want to make, was poorly managed, but ultimately stands as a testament that games as a service is the riskiest gamble publishers will take, and the developers will take all the consequences while the hire ups will who made all the shit decisions get to keep their jobs.

So many companies wasting so much money paying so many developers to waste so much work time to make live service games nobody wants.

@grumpynomad3551

Ай бұрын

As long as they stick to the agenda BlackRock will give them hundreds of billions of dollars to make games. They don’t need us.

@Thorn_416

Ай бұрын

Dont forget the time and money spent on DEI consulting firms lmao. 6 figure invoices to be told "make that character gay, and make that one south asain" 😂

@vidmasterK1

Ай бұрын

​@Thorn_416 you know Crime Boss city Rocket City never did any of that and fared much worse than any wOkE game

@sh4dowst3p

Ай бұрын

@@Thorn_416what’s a DEI?

@sheepfly

Ай бұрын

​@@vidmasterK1and I prefer it to payday 3

If Microsoft was able to purchase Nintendo they would tank that company too.

@josuesosa1157

Ай бұрын

Yea just look at forbroken and quantum error

@jonathanwessner3456

Ай бұрын

the switch would run on embedded Windows 12 and crash every month

@nothing2069

Ай бұрын

Microsoft is trying to delete gaming

@eddythefool

Ай бұрын

After last time, when they were laughed out of the room, i doubt they'll ever try it again.

@Saiputera

Ай бұрын

ikr they would F up mario etc..

-Get renowned studio with massive experience in a particular single player genre to make a multiplayer live service looter shooter. -It fails catastrophically, studio loses both experienced old staff and enthusiastic new staff as well as tons of money. -Game is kept on life support for max a year before further development is quietly canceled. -Process repeats with another studio. We cant keep doing this man, its such a profound waste on every level.

@FlamespeedyAMV

Ай бұрын

Oh but we can keep doing it, because BlackRock pays with it's trillions for them to go Woke

@user-ss1os6ek1x

Ай бұрын

You're thinking of the other Arkane studio. They're still open and making Blade. Arkane Austin didn't have massive experience in anything.

@slavahead9488

Ай бұрын

@@user-ss1os6ek1x What are you talking about???? Arkane Austin (the one that was closed) made Prey (2017), which was very good.

@KoryLunaa

Ай бұрын

​@@slavahead9488 They also made the Dishonored series and Deathloop so he's just talking out of his ass lmao

@lootlord8995

19 күн бұрын

​@KoryLunaa not sure about Dishonored, but Arkan Lyon made Deathloop and they are still open

Microsoft: Happy 1 year anniversary! YOU'RE FIRED

@Kristyybug

Ай бұрын

Oh they needed to be fired that game was bleeding money lolol

@dew_b_dew

Ай бұрын

@Kristyybug eh the game needed to be shut down yes. But purge the entire team? It seems like it was more of a leadership issue. It sucks that the devs have to take the fall for it, especially when there was 70% turnover and the new folks were following shitty orders. That's harsh.

@darugdawg2453

Ай бұрын

@@dew_b_dew i dont store trash in my room. its a fuking business you can fire anyone you want

@dew_b_dew

Ай бұрын

@darugdawg2453 yeah, sure, you have the option. Doesn't make it the right move. Culling the departments that were doing good is the real problem

@globalpotaoto6681

Ай бұрын

@@dew_b_dewyea it’s really sad. Such good studio that got shut down I was waiting for evil within 3 but sadly we will never get any of these dope games back

If making a fan-praised GOTY contender with zero marketing like Hi-Fi Rush can't save a studio, WHAT CAN? Time and time again it feels like success isn't enough anymore. Selling a few millions of copies aren't enough, they want DOZENS of millions. When rumors drift around about games like *Spider-Man 2* aren't selling enough to make higher-ups happy, it feels like we're watching the gaming industry starting to eat itself chasing impossible infinity "money number go up" fantasies.

@megamandrn001

Ай бұрын

Gaming industry isn't eating itself, gaming corporation upper management is. As long as talented people have the balls to take less pay and go to smaller studios that don't have shareholders, and realize being under corporate control offers zero benefit, they'll be fine.

Someone revealed on Twitter that some developer started working on Redfall dlc today 5 hrs before studios shut down lol

@tablettablete186

Ай бұрын

LMAO

@ashfernandes2651

Ай бұрын

😂😂

@RobotReg

Ай бұрын

Im sure he got a lot done lol

@maltheri9833

Ай бұрын

​@@RobotRegEither a surprise or he just said fugg it might as well log in and run the clock

@commentcop1246

Ай бұрын

He was probably so relieved

Next on the list is *Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League*

@actionvids35

Ай бұрын

then skull and bones

@TheHK_47

Ай бұрын

More like kill the franchise

@apexanimo

Ай бұрын

then overwatch 2

@acev3521

Ай бұрын

God I hope so

@thedoggbeast6942

Ай бұрын

Then starfield

Welp, there goes hopes for future The Evil Within games.

@bulletn3ctar

Ай бұрын

I never wanted to see this combination of words. Had high hopes for TEW 3. Absolute shame :/

@defaulted9485

Ай бұрын

We need The Evil Within to make sure Capcom don't slack their Resident Evil games. Having both games are just fantastic. HiFi Rush too, that's one game I'd say worth a sequel. I wasn't an anti Phil Spencer guy before... but now... F**king snake.

@Chevelle3_

Ай бұрын

Well Bethesda still owns the rights of TEW or dishonored so they could hire a different studio to make a TEW or dishonored game i love both games, but especially TEW2 wasnt too well received and microsoft only goes by numbers

@vidmasterK1

Ай бұрын

Good. I thought everyone was sick of sequels and craved new original titles, not sequels or continuations of games

@HeatherHolt

Ай бұрын

@@vidmasterK1depends on the game and if it’s deserving of a sequel from a narrative perspective, in my opinion. Resident Evil 4 is a slam dunk, the remaster even better (along with 2, we don’t talk about 3). Silent Hill 2 is obviously better than 1, all the others are sad cash grabs for the most part. High hopes for its remaster. People go nuts for all the Yakuza games. I personally will always hope for a Bloodborne sequel (and pc remaster). Depending on how the Elden Ring dlc goes, lots of people do and will crave a sequel for it. But then again you have a new call of duty every year 🙄

Them closing Tango Gameworks is gonna bite them. It's so weird how they tried so hard to get into Japan,, and now they closed their only Japanese studio....

@elhazthorn918

Ай бұрын

... the week after Golden Week.

The biggest disgrace in the whole situation is shutting down of Tango. Roundhouse and Austin will have their staff moved to different studios. But nothing is known about Tango. Why them? Even 343 is being allowed to roam freely. It's unfair ffs

@irocz11

Ай бұрын

Tango has lost some higher ups over the last few years including the founder. Wouldn’t be surprised if that was causing issues on what to do for future games.

@Nimbus118

Ай бұрын

The worst timeline where 343 is allowed to live instead of tango

@AndrewRyan-zv7zb

Ай бұрын

​@@irocz11id never even heard about them or anything they've ever made until this. I feel like that's part of the problem. They may have been successful "for their size" but that doesn't mean financially worth it for MS.

@irocz11

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewRyan-zv7zb I mean a smaller studio loosing the founder for him to make another new studio is pretty much a death sentence because there is a high chance a lot of the experience is going to move with him.

@TheTytan007

Ай бұрын

@@irocz11 Yeah, but Mikami wasn't that much involved in making Hi-Fi Rush, but somebody else was steering the process. Even without him they seemingly had good people in right position. That's why I'm particularly pissed about Tango. It was a studio that was being ran well enough to give us Hi-Fi Rush last year whereas Arkane Austin was partially destroyed because of how the leadership handled Redfall development. Roundhouse despite being direct continuation of Human Heads had nothing in common with the studio that gave us OG Prey so them being absorbed into Zenimax Online is just a nothing burger.

Redfall has 44 players Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League has 66 players

@selohcin

Ай бұрын

That's just Steam. Most Redfall players are on Game Pass.

@planexshifter

Ай бұрын

I added 10 to account for game pass

@garygearboy1358

29 күн бұрын

I checked the sskj had almost 4 k players on Xbox and who knows how many on the ps5

Microsoft will do everything but shut down 343 and fire Phil Spencer.

@isaakfaulk8067

Ай бұрын

Phil Spencer’s been pretty crappy but I really appreciate how he’s emphasized game pass, backwards compatability I really enjoy those features. He’s just not very ambitious when it comes to anything else.

@RobotWithHumanHair.

Ай бұрын

It’s wild that 343 gets so many chances after constant fuck ups yet these studios are the ones to get axed despite having some actual good games made

@MisterZimbabwe

Ай бұрын

You say that now but I guarantee you whoever replaces Phil Spencer would be so much worse. There's no end of wannabe Bobby Koticks looking to suck the industry dry and enshittify it.

@CyraXFactor

Ай бұрын

A lot of hate for 343, but Halo Infinite is, by far, their best game. It’s a lot of fun. I’d give them another chance after that. Sure there’s the co-op fiasco and other features they messed up with. I can’t say much for the multiplayer. It’s decent (beats the hell out of COD), but not enough to keep me playing. Halo MCC is also fantastic. Bungie does nothing but ride out Destiny 2 these days. Maybe give Halo to MachineGames if it came down to it.

@samuelgiroux6819

Ай бұрын

​@@CyraXFactor So the game is fun but not enough to keep you playing? If that's the best 343 has to offer after nearly a decade of halo titles then you've already dug a hole for them.

People are never gonna learn to not buy season passes until everything is released... hopefully by then there would be a sale.

@EJD339

Ай бұрын

Never. It blows my mind people still pre-order or buy seasons passes. I got burned once on cyberpunk and that was enough. At least wait until the reviews come out.

@WLO1990

Ай бұрын

Agreed. I always wait until it's all released and on offer. Managed to get AC Valhalla Ultimate Edition for £20 recently which is crazy to say it retails at like £120

@thisisaname5589

Ай бұрын

Amend your statement. People are never gonna learn to not buy *season passes.* What the hell is a season pass, and why would anyone be so monumentally foolish as to buy one? It's ridiculous.

@strangestecho5088

26 күн бұрын

@@EJD339 I guess that it's different on consoles, but there's no significant drawback to pre-ordering a game on Steam. If anything it makes more of a statement to cancel a pre-order on launch day, because the publisher then has concrete numbers that they fucked up and pushed away paying customers.

@mikoto7693

25 күн бұрын

@@EJD339Likewise. I got burned by Fallout 76. Never again.

I think the more unfortunate news is that Tango is shut down. They're incredibly talented, creative and passionate.

@Motion_God

Ай бұрын

Yup I loved the evil within series

@1996Horst

23 күн бұрын

but didnˋt they also loose quite a bit of their old staff prior to this? Like Arcane Austin had essentially none of their original staff left, meaning the closure is absolutely inconsequential. The mind was already dead, we now just finally burried the body.

@Retribution8

22 күн бұрын

@@1996Horst Which I learned later. I knew Shinji Mikami left but I didn't know how much of the rest of the staff left till much later. Thanks to Luke for updating me on that fact.

Bad on Microsoft for shutting down Tango Studios that was a bad call.

@erikouwehand

Ай бұрын

Yeah, for years they had big claims and plans for the Japense market. They wanted a Japanese studio, they got one and now they are shutting it down. The Japanese will not forget this. This is going to haunt Xbox for years to come.

@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm

Ай бұрын

But I'm sure it made some Excel cell flash green 😑

The corporate obsession with live service games has been a plague on the industry. So many companies destroyed their own talented studios by demanding they chase the dream of infinite cash in these games with no thought whatsoever of if it would ever produce a quality product. All just to thrill shareholders and give executives bigger bonuses while the people with talent all go down with the ship when these soulless games inevitably fail.

@vidmasterK1

Ай бұрын

You're clearly in the minority here because everybody is playing Helldivers 2 and still heaps praises and hype upon it and it's live service

@nikolasferreira3247

Ай бұрын

​@@vidmasterK1they praise the gameplay, not the live service

@jgomo3877

Ай бұрын

​@@vidmasterK1 ... and its not as if Helldivers 2 is the diamond in the rough of live service games; nor is it as if it has been involved in any live service related scandals recently.... Oh wait; both of those are true.

I’m old enough to remember Rare acquisition in 2002. To let the kids know, back in the day Rare was like the FromSoftware of platforming. Now it’s just a the Sea of Thieves company.

@rodafowa1279

Ай бұрын

They were so much more than that. Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Killer instinct Gold, Blast Corps, etc. They were one of the most elite companies in the industry, period.

@erikouwehand

Ай бұрын

I liked Kameo.

@whosaidthat84

Ай бұрын

Rare and Nintendo were magical during the SNES and N64. Hell, aside from Nintendo, Rare was the only consistent developer for the N64. It was a sad day when MS bought them out. Nintendo should have and they didn't.

Ah, yes, now Microsoft has every excuse to dissolve Arkane Studios, a FANTASTIC studio that's made a good bundle of serious gems. (Fuck man, I still play Arx Fatalis every now and then) Arkane was working on 25% staff, because of the 101 employees, 76 of them left when they were informed they'd be making a live-service shooter. Nobody wanted to make Red Fall. It's a shame that Arkane will be closed, but to be fair, Arkane as we knew them has long been gone for a couple of years now, and are working for other studios. Edit: Kept saying "Arkane will be shut down" but really I meant the Austin division and kept repeating the mistake.

@WhiteManOnCampus

Ай бұрын

Well, by that point they'd already made Dishonored 2 and Death of the Outsider, which were middling and bad respectively. The studio was already on a downward spiral and Redfall was just the nail in the coffin, pun intended.

@dem0nfr0g39

Ай бұрын

Like he said in the video, 70% (more by now) of the people that made Prey are gone. The magic is gone, same as Bioware, same as Blizzard, same as Bethesda, same as a lot of places, sadly

@dylanherron3963

Ай бұрын

@@WhiteManOnCampus I wholeheartedly love that entire series mate, no complaints. Dishonored 2 was collectively celebrated (yes it had performance issues) as a fantastic sequel, full-stop. Like, every outlet called it fantastic, and "best cyberpunk game of X." I was there mate. So you don't like the direction Dishonored took. That's a shame. Prey was also a fucking complete storytelling masterpiece, and came out years later. Mooncrash was great DLC. My thoughts differ.

@cosmancho2959

Ай бұрын

​@@dylanherron3963Arcane was always overrated to me. Dishonored was good but that's kinda it.

@dylanherron3963

Ай бұрын

@@cosmancho2959 Cool, didn't ask mate. "I really like thing" "I think thing is mid" okay then.

Pete Hines has always been full of it, his retirement was a net gain for the industry.

It's even more wild when you remember that Microsoft put Hi Fi Rush on Playstation literal weeks ago

They should give us our money back then

@kyvian251

Ай бұрын

@@RockerBoy20045from what I know only for the value of the upgrade, they don’t give you a full refund

@FlamespeedyAMV

Ай бұрын

​@@kyvian251Lol they scammed everyone again

Never trust anything that's coming out of Phil Spencer's mouth. The infamous two faced guy of gaming industry.

@ThatGuy_92

Ай бұрын

At least he wasn't fired like Jim Ryan 🤭

@twomo1

Ай бұрын

Him, molyneux, and Howard just love to say whatever. It's insane.

@zerenadli

Ай бұрын

@@ThatGuy_92 found one, another certified uncle Phil's boot licker. PS fanboys actually want Phil to stay so he can do more damage to Xbox, which is good outcome for PS 😂

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

Or Peter Hines.

@Faminetheblack

Ай бұрын

At the end of the day, he's still a suit trying to get as much money as possible. Everyone can sit there and say he gets the gaming community, but he doesn't. He'll sell every xbox customer down the river if it means a .25% increase in their stock portfolio, and he'll burn every studio to the ground if they don't make bank with a release.

My heart almost dropped when I saw Tango Gameworks on the chopping block. My brain can't comprehend why they'd kill that studio. It dosen't make sense!!

@grumpynomad3551

Ай бұрын

They wouldn’t go woke for that black rock investment.

@irocz11

Ай бұрын

Mikami the founder of the studio left wouldn’t be shocked if a lot of long term staff that like working for him went with him to his new studio which left Tango in a tough spot to move forward.

@alexandervillar7742

Ай бұрын

​@@grumpynomad3551Please tell me you are trolling.

@Lament_the_VVitch

Ай бұрын

@@alexandervillar7742he’s not his other comments are the same lol

@mcbill7352

Ай бұрын

​@@grumpynomad3551...what? Have you played hifi rush? The anticapitalist themes in that game are not exactly subtle

I'm devastated by the closure of Tango. Hi Fi Rush is one of my all-time favorite games and to see their studio get shut down for absolutely no fault of their own is gutting.

The loss of the possibility of The Evil Within 3 and Hi-Fi Rush 2 withers my soul 💀💀

I still remember all the theory videos speculating that Redfall was the name of The Elder Scrolls VI…

Wasn't Pete Hines also the one who said everything was all fine and dandy with Anthem...! Is this an Anthem 2.0?

@kimihelaste4765

Ай бұрын

Anthem was developed by Bioware and published by EA. (So no, Pete Hines did not say that. It was either Casey Hudson (when he worked there) or Andrew Wilson, who said it)

@battlep0t

Ай бұрын

It'd be hard for Pete Hines to say that given he's not worked at Bioware or EA in any capacity in his career...

@NeverLucky1765

Ай бұрын

Your thinking of someone else mate.

I seen a tweet from an Austin Dev saying something along the lines of. Microsoft seen the state of Redfall way before and still pushed for it to be released, instead of canceling or working on a new title. Microsoft and Xbox are literally their own worst enemies

Same thing happened to Tango. People look at them and say oh how can Microsoft axe them. But they don't know that like Arkane Austin a lot of Senior Devs at Tango, even Disciple of Shinji, the founder of the Studio, left the Studio during Ghostwire because they wanted to make Horror games, not some Ubisoft like Game. After Ghostwire Tango released a Mobile Gacha game which many don't know about. It flopped of course and then came Hi Fi Rush. It is very likely that Tango lacked a proper Vision and devs to even make Evil Within 3. There was no vision. And with ABK buyout there are many studios who would be willing to try making Evil Within 3 and Hi Fi Rush 2 there, so they just dissolved the Tango and will give its IPs to others.

Don't buy pre-order's people

It was still alive?

@LukeStephensTV

Ай бұрын

lol fair

@2:32 Can we please appreciate the fact that there's a "Booty" family somewhere out there?

It's sickening to think that an exec can just casually walk into a studio's office one morning and say "hey uhh, we're shutting down this studio, scrap whatever you're doing right now"

@darksidegryphon5393

Ай бұрын

As if they bothered to walk there. They'd just call them to tell them they're fired.

People are like "man, the games industry is volatile!" When you're not unionized, leap into the arms of the first billion dollar sugar daddy corpo that comes along, refuse to make the games that people want and intentionally make games absolutely nobody wants, act like reputation isn't a thing, intentionally burn out specialized talent, and your development process basically involves starting from scratch every time, no wonder! Maybe don't fall into the shareholder trap and run things like a cancer blob that can only moan "money!" and watch your fortunes turn around!

@freshhands9461

22 күн бұрын

"Cancer Blob" is such a nice way of phrasing it :D

Gaming Corporations are utterly, dismantling this industry. It is completely, mind boggling. It's like all of the upper-wigs are done with this industry and are slowly, poisoning it to death with their idiocy so that they can like, liquidate all assets and move onto other brands ...like locusts. It's so sad and frustrating.

@chasejackson7248

Ай бұрын

Gamepass and people that use it is the problem, when hellblade doesn't do Good they will get rid of them and make them work on call of doody.

@megamandrn001

Ай бұрын

The industry employees are to blame heavily too. People have been begging them to unionize for a decade and instead they decided to keep their head down and sob through work so they could keep their "dream job".

@APsychicMonkey

Ай бұрын

@@megamandrn001 If they did try to unionize, they would all just be fired and replaced the next day. Most of these rank and file drones are imminently replaceable and they know it. That's a big part of why these huge games are so utterly soulless, they're directed by empty-skulled marketing suits and produced by hundreds of interchangeable factory drones. Games are art and there is no art to be had there.

@megamandrn001

Ай бұрын

@@APsychicMonkey So keep doing it. And keep doing it and keep doing it until there's no one left to fire. It's not like they can make the games themselves.

@CanIHasThisName

Ай бұрын

@@megamandrn001 Holy crap, this really isn't something a union would magically fix. This US centric view of unions is absolutely ridiculous.

Tango Gameworks being closed is so disappointing to hear.😔

0:58 "This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!"

@therealMrA

Ай бұрын

We should not have made this bargain

I will keep saying it. Hi-Fi Rush is the best game that came out of Xbox in over a decade. Tango Gameworks do not deserve this BS. I blame Xbox fans for putting all their focus on defending Redfall and Starfield while mostly ignoring Hi-Fi Rush. Such BS.

@adamsteinbacher2629

Ай бұрын

Tango is such a loss. What a great studio. I even liked Ghostwire Tokyo.

@justinlacek1481

Ай бұрын

I think it was either Forza Horizon 5 or Gears 5. But both of those are kinda niche titles so the broader gaming community just doesn't pay attention to them (aside from the random youtubers calling gears of war a dead franchise because they didnt like the story). Imo Microsoft should've put all their attention towards Gears instead of investing in Halo, The Coalition is a far better dev team than 343i

@jackalazzerking3219

Ай бұрын

Who tf was defending redfall?

@F34RDSoldier805

Ай бұрын

@@justinlacek1481 those games are good, but Hi-Fi Rush was great and the best in a decade +. They don't have a lot of even just good games, and they shut down Tango, the one that made their best IN 10+ YEARS. New IP too. What a joke.

@F34RDSoldier805

Ай бұрын

@@jackalazzerking3219 The first few months there were a ton of Xbox fanboys defending it and attcking people who shat on it. Just a few weeks ago there was a discussion on Twitter defending it with the same types of delusional fanboys doing the same. Xbox fanboys have been so desperate to get a W that they defend any game Xbox releases for months after launch no matter how bad or mediocre. And then Hi-Fi Rush released, it was amazing, and it went mostly ignored. This did happen.

Honestly Tango Gameworks getting caught up in the cuts in the saddest thing.

If you paid 100 bucks for Redfall then you deserve whatever is coming to you.

@unclechair2208

Ай бұрын

No, they don't It's still a product that they payed for, and as much as I hate blind buying specially when a game has red flags everywhere but it still is a thing people payed for and if we allow it to happen to bad games, it will happen to other games

@TheForever206

Ай бұрын

​@@unclechair2208"A fool and his money are soon parted"

@MrPMAntunes

Ай бұрын

​@@unclechair2208agreed

@unclechair2208

Ай бұрын

@@TheForever206 yes, but that doesnt change the fact that it sets a precedent for future games and nobody wants studios to be able to get away with MORE shit

@afunkymonke

Ай бұрын

​@TheForever206 he's really trying to act like the game didn't look like complete dogshit from the reveal 😂

Wow. It feels like the end of a gaming era. Everything is going bad. I barely buy new games now. I just play my old library. It feels weird these times.

@vidmasterK1

Ай бұрын

Easy, kiddo. They've been saying gaming is done for or dead for many years. Long time.

Ай бұрын

@@vidmasterK1 you are so unrespectful kiddo

@CanIHasThisName

Ай бұрын

No, he's perfectly right. People used to say same the same thing back when Dark Souls came out, in fact there was a huge wave of people saying "Dark Souls ruined gaming for me". There have always been bad, unoriginal games. Mainstream gaming has always been mostly not good. As you get older and have more and more games under your belt, you begin to understand how repetitive certain trends are and become more critical. This issue can be compounded by only looking at the mainstream segment of gaming and not trying new things. Right now, the indie scene is better than it has ever been, there's plenty of non-mainstream titles which are AMAZING, plenty of larger studios who are focused on quality, most niches are being catered to in some way. Gaming is better than it has every been, you just need to look at other games than just Call of Duty.

The people who bought the bite back edition should get a refund, if not those 5 people need to get on a class action lawsuit. Hi Fi rush was an amazing game, losing that studio is a massive mistake.

Soooooo... No Prey 2, The Evil Within 3, or Ghostwire 2?

@circlesnare3671

Ай бұрын

Most of the main talent left Arkane Austin after the first Prey. After their last releases I’m glad there won’t be a sequel from them.

@AndrewRyan-zv7zb

Ай бұрын

Probably for the best.

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

I don't want Neuroshock 2 thanks!

Damn, The Evil Within series could've been the unique RE type of first party games for xbox.

Hi-Fi RUSH was one of my favorite single-player games of all time. And it genuinely _shatters_ my heart to think we’ll never see anything new from Chai and the gang ever again…

@aledantih6524

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's a travesty. Hi Fi Rush has some of the best gaming moments in recent memory and no one should ever forgive Microsoft for killing it

When a big studio buys out a smaller one... is there no option in the contracting to ensure that legally the projects they choose to work on afterwards can still be of their choosing without this cart blanche puppeteer control we've been seeing with all these throw away game service projects? Is there no protection or sovereignty they can be assured creatively when being rolled into the big corporate Katamari ball?

@LukeStephensTV

Ай бұрын

The answer is actually yes. A great example is Bungie. PlayStation acquired them in 2022 but allowed the executive leadership to stay in place so long as they hit certain revenue targets and KPI’s. The problem is, they have missed those targets by massive margins in the last few quarters and in those contracts it says that if they continually miss those targets PlayStation can take full control and they will lose their autonomy. So, it can happen, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it will always go well for the studio

@Triforcefilms

Ай бұрын

@@LukeStephensTV I guess it's always more sordid and nuanced than you'd initially think. Let's keep hoping there's some hard lessons learned about heaping joyless game-service schlock onto Dev's that are capable of better. Keep up the good content Luke👍

Your videos are 33% better with cats in them.

Redfall has so many odd design choices and weird decisions baked into it that I'm not sure it was ever recoverable no matter how much work was put into it.

There's no one to blame for arkanes closure but Ms, Bethesda should have remained a 3rd party publisher

@McSomething15

Ай бұрын

Bathesda before the MS buyout was no saint

@AndrewRyan-zv7zb

Ай бұрын

Most of Arkane's games never really reached the financial success that the hype around them would suggest. Dishonored for example. I know tons of people who played the first one, and enjoyed it. None of those same people (work acquaintances and friends) ever touched the sequels. Ditto with Rage, Death loop, ghostwire, Prey.

Reminds me of Anthem. Had a whole timeline of upcoming content drops that I believe had been included in the pro-order and deluxe edition bonuses. Studio insisted that they were going to fix the game and weren't going to abandon it. Entire content timeline gets delayed. Like a year goes by without any substantial improvement, and then all development is just stopped with nothing that was promised for the future ever materializing. I suspect the same will happen with Suicide Squad.

I just can’t believe that redfall was forced on Arkane and when it was forced on them a good amount of developers left the studio, then after it wasn’t a good game with any direction they just shut down the studio, they made some of my favourite games (Dishonoured, Prey, bioshock) just insane and so sad to me.

goodbye my hopes for Prey 2 (again)

That fallout TV series was good, so corporate people are focusing on making new fallout game. Axing everything by just looking at numbers of only last oneyear, no long term perspective. Heartbreaking for players & developers.

@WhiteManOnCampus

Ай бұрын

No, it really wasn't. Just because it was better than things like Rings of Power, Halo and the Last of Us TV show doesn't make it good. We shouldn't grade on a curve: if I had Taco Bell diarrhea yesterday and a solid log today, today's poop might be better but it's still unfit to serve as someone's dinner.

@putinmahcochin1636

Ай бұрын

​@WhiteManOnCampus objectively, you're pretty wrong. Was it new Vegas levels of writing? No. But it was leagues above 4, therefore, pretty good. The cast knocked it out of the park. Cinematography was on par to damn good.

@Lament_the_VVitch

Ай бұрын

@@putinmahcochin1636seriously. To act like the show is objectively bad is massive cope.

@FlamespeedyAMV

Ай бұрын

The TV show is hot garbage lol

@elhazthorn918

Ай бұрын

I keep hearing conflicting things about the Fallout show. Some people saying it's good, some people saying it's bad. Is it a matter of Fallout fans, starved for content being thrown a bone?

If you, in this day & age, pre-order a game you deserve everything you get or don't. Because you are the problem.

What’s Microsoft’s studio kill count at now?

If gamers weren't idiots, this wouldn't happen. Don't pre-order, don't buy live service games, don't purchase season passes, no battle passes, no microtransactions, and if you buy a buggy/incomplete game, return it asap. If your chosen platform doesn't allow refunds, that's a you problem for agreeing to that garbage. Demand complete products for your money. Stop falling for publisher/developer shenanigans and promises about future crap. Wait for reviews of complete product. Also, stop forgiving developers for shoddiness. Every studio falls off. Shit's getting worse, not better, and it's the fault of everyone who keeps sucking down the copium that it keeps happening. No Man's Sky is the exception, not the rule, and it still took years for that game to possess 80% of what was initially promised.

@FlamespeedyAMV

Ай бұрын

FACTS

@pikkyuukyuun4741

Ай бұрын

nah just let the consoomers be consoomers. let the industry fall

@vidmasterK1

Ай бұрын

Too bad for your anti live service campaign, bud. Helldivers 2 is the biggest game of all time right now, even after the Sony account fiasco, and it's been live service

@megamandrn001

Ай бұрын

​@@vidmasterK1I would delete Helldivers 2 in a split second if it ended live service games and the industry would thrive because of it. It's another shooty bang, you'll live.

@pikkyuukyuun4741

Ай бұрын

@@vidmasterK1 both apex and r6 are huge live service games. Doesnt mean their microtransactions arent overpriced. Just because its normalised doesnt mean its not insanity. Like there are parts of the world where a child is immediately engaged after they are born. That is insanity but normalised in their area. Again just bcs its normalised doesnt mean its not insanity

RIP Tango Studios 😓

The thing with season passes is typically they will offer it with some form of its content already released. This means since you have already received part of the purchase, you are not eligible for a full refund. It is a money trap essentially and that's what publishers want. That aside, Microsoft have done this behaviour before, consume dev/pub, restructure, have them make a title or two, rinse, repeat. It's their MO to get someone else to make hit games so Microsoft can own it. Bungie, Rare, Lionhead, etc., now it is Activision's and Zenimax's turns.

Imagine taking the crew as your free game back when and having that taken away. I also think the lead is getting buried here. Not a lot of people are surprised Arkane Austin was on the chopping block.. Tangoworks got shuttered.. the studio that made what you can argue is the best exclusive xbox had last year, Hi-fi Rush

Like Luke says: “oooops!” (last video had perfect timing)

This will be the fate of suicide squad...

@ricardomeijer7164

Ай бұрын

It's just there in the air..Just waiting till the life support is plugged out

While individual studios such as tango shutting down is a bummer. Cutting down the amount of people in some of these bigger companies makes sense. It’s become very obvious that these big companies have actually become less focused and proficient because there’s just too many chefs in the kitchen. Smaller companies like arrowhead show that sometimes less is more. This is something effecting a lot of the tech industry I believe. I think a lot of people assumed tech was the future. Jumped into it as a career choice and now there’s just an over saturation of workers in the tech industry.

The cat: are you just goin to flail your hands around or actually pet me"

Tango deserved better.

Oh. Didn’t know we were still expecting something lmao

How many live service games have to fail before publishers realise it’s not what people want. Waste of money and developer time

Redfall will still receiving one final patch, allowing players to explore the town in offline solo-mode... Redfall is a dish best served solo, playing to the strengths of this talented developer (long before they were pressured to create something outside of their natural wheelhouse.) Redfall may not have delivered what Microsoft had hoped for, but I enjoyed every minute of exploring that sleepy fishing village under siege by vampires...

@thientuongnguyen2564

24 күн бұрын

"Will receive one final patch"? Yeah, I don't believe so bub.

So. What you're saying is.... We're not getting Hi-Fi Rush 2.

@kingdomkey2262

Ай бұрын

Or The Evil Within 3

@applehazeva2739

Ай бұрын

Breaks my heart. Literally one of my Favorite Games of all time. You really got to love Tango. Well, rip.

I played redfall for around 5 or 6 minutes. Really really bad 🤦‍♂️

Live service games are like those villains that never die and just keep coming back.

If I own a private gaming studio in the future and someone like Microsoft approaches and wants to acquisition I might need to show them a list of all the studio Xbox shutdown and says: No thanks!

@elhazthorn918

Ай бұрын

Laugh at them for two hours.

Microsoft had the developers just they did not use them well, if they were tools arkane was a hammer but they were used to paint

Next! Microsoft close Bethesda studios!

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

AGH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!

I think it’s safe to assume we will see more live service looter shooters but with “quirky” mechanics because that’s “fun and exciting and new”

I honestly forgot Redfall was a thing that exosted.

not any game can be overhauled like cp2077.. it takes passion, not gamepass (jfc kill me)

@acev3521

Ай бұрын

It takes the game being good in the first place. Cyberpunk was always good lore and story wise it was just the graphics and gameplay that was ass.

@jasonprendergast7493

Ай бұрын

@@acev3521no. The graphics were always great, it was just last gen they were terrible and still are on that. Just most people didn’t have PS5 at the time, I did and I can say from day 1 it always looked amazing!

@bryanpineda2096

Ай бұрын

Like what!?

@AndrewRyan-zv7zb

Ай бұрын

Cyberpunk was a great game BURIED under glitches and non functioning software. You can only "save" a good game that was broken. Not a bad game that works fine.

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

@@acev3521 The woke LGBTQIA+ devs were what went wrong with CP2077.

I really hope we get Prey 2 someday

@AndrewRyan-zv7zb

Ай бұрын

I wished we got the original Prey 2 that Bethesda cheated us out of.

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewRyan-zv7zb Yeah I wish too but I don't think they will be able to now.

Oh man, Tango got the boot, too? I lived in Ghostwire: Tokyo for 6 months. I’m getting around to Dying Light 2 and thought RedFall could’ve learned so much from Techland-both 1 and 2 are some of my faves. I was cresting on an Arkane Games Only Plz streak for a year when my prepaid Redfall dropped. So sad. I’ll always have DeathLoop.

Publishers have been ruining game companies by pressuring them into fitting a mold for decades. It happens with every new fad. MMORPGs, CoD clones, looter shooters, and big open worlds with quest markers have all had their turn in the spotlight. Because they don't see games as games, they see them as categories to be sorted and exploited. They can't let developers just make a good game.

Rest in peace Red Fall. No update can save you now, uh oh 😟

First time I'm hearing of this game

@Theoverlord77

Ай бұрын

Ain't no way bro 😅🤣

@qjames0077

Ай бұрын

@@Theoverlord77 for real man

The industry deserves better than this, another developer who was actually making unique and well developed games just got shuttered like that. The more studios Microsoft and other conglomerates acquire the more often we are gonna see this .

Someone said the devs was working on dlc about 5 hours ago that’s wild

It took this for people to finally realize Xbox is on a downward spiral

@alpsalish

Ай бұрын

So wrong

@jasonprendergast7493

Ай бұрын

I hope not. It thanks to Xbox we’re getting the best of PlayStation, why we got the PS5 pushing the limits, the best games as it was pushing Sony to better. If it just them and Xbox go, we PlayStation users will lose out as they know it’s only them then!

@lacasadelpop4593

Ай бұрын

So right

@nsbm159

Ай бұрын

Why because the closed a studio that released a trash game. And it wasn't even Xbox that was responsible for Redfall. And after Redfall you blamed xbox for not managing their studios and now that they are your complaining lol

@WetWattz

Ай бұрын

@@nsbm159 it was literally Microsoft and the higher ups that pushed the live service aspect onto Redfall that the developers were against from the jump. They were literally forced to make a game they didn’t want to. So wtf are you even talking about?

It died the day of release

Don’t forget Shinji Miami left Tango a year ago. And he never really commented on what happened. Pushed out? Cost cutting? Or did he see the writing on the wall.

@elhazthorn918

Ай бұрын

Saw the writing on the wall.

If a game launches in an insulting state like that, that bridge is burned with me. I wish more people would think like this, maybe we'd get games that launch in playable working states. I think that buying games after they 'come back' only enables this kind of 'release now, fix later' system we keep seeing over and over again. It actually saddens me that 76 is still around. But, as usual, the consumers' ignorance is the real problem, not the companies that do with stuff.

Name a studio that's improved since xbox purchased them

@HaskerHiemstra

Ай бұрын

Blizzard

@Motion_God

Ай бұрын

Obsidian

@X2011racer

Ай бұрын

ID Software. The Doom reboot kicks @$$. Good thing they didn't get shut down and only suffered layoffs. Playground Games. As of now, they're saving Forza from total collapse with Forza Horizon 5's sudden increase in update quality. Mojang. They would've shut down had Notch failed to find a buyer to sell his studio.

@elhazthorn918

Ай бұрын

Exactly. None of them.

You cannot NOT love his cats

"I've Redfallen and I can't get up!"

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

AGH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

When I saw the news this morning, the first thing I thought of was your video from yesterday. Whole situation is crazy

This game was a shit stain on the gaming industry from the start

@fr33kSh0w2012

Ай бұрын

Pete hines and todd howard were!

Xbox just burned any goodwill they had left

@alpsalish

Ай бұрын

What? How?

@beerasaurus

Ай бұрын

They had goodwill?

@UltimateInkling

Ай бұрын

They never had goodwill lol

@elhazthorn918

Ай бұрын

Xbox's remaining customers have Stockholm Syndrome at this point.

I didnt know Arkane Austin lost so many former key staff members. I wonder if something similar happened with Tango Gameworks.

I remember reading about the reasons why the show Firefly got cancelled. Basically different project leads vying for resources within the company. Sabotaging each other's projects behind the scene to stay afloat. Somehow, this smells the same. Corpo-suits being dystopian. Luckily, we won't be needing them forwever...