Red Rooster vs AEW vs Gursewak vs Stock: The MEGA Interceptor/Continental GT 650 Exhaust Battle
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Are you looking to upgrade the exhaust of your Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 or Continental GT 650 and don't know which one to choose from the many available in the market?
Well, I happened to chance upon the three most prominent aftermarket options available for the Royal Enfield Twins on my ride this Sunday: AEW, Red Rooster and Gursewak.
And the only thing then to do was to line them up and make you hear them.
Red Rooster Performance or RRP as they are also known are a Bengaluru-based performance tuning brand who have made a set of chrome pipes for the Interceptor/Continental GT 650. These cost Rs 19,000. With the baffle they don't get unreasonably loud. RRP can be contacted here: redroosterperformance.com/
AEW or Ashu Engineering Works is a Pune-based company that have been designing exhausts for Royal Enfield for long. Their exhaust has a brushed finish, unlike Red Rooster and are a bit more bassy too. They also happen to cost the least in this trio. Rs 15,500. AEW's website: torquexhausts.com/ (The bike with the AEW exhausts in the video is mine)
Gursewak from Delhi look like jet engines from the back, the inside diameter is that big. These don't have the option to install a baffle and are the bassiest of the lot. The ones on the bike that rode with us were brushed finish and were the size of the stock exhaust.
Gursewaks suit the Continental GT 650 more than the Interceptor 650 in my opinion because they seem more racy and purposeful. Cost is again Rs 19,000. You can reach out to Gursewak here: gursewakexhaust.com/
And finally, the benchmark. The stock exhaust that these aftermarket units hope to replace. While I think the stock sound is the most mature of the lot, it is a little on the quieter side and the design is not the most appealing either.
This was just a last minute video we shot with my phone and not under the best of conditions. I plan to shoot a video comparing all these exhausts and their pros and cons very soon.
Do leave me a comment below on what you would like to see in that comparison and which of these exhausts do you like the most and why.
As always, thank you for giving me your time.
Ride safe and have a nice day.
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It is rare to find a good youtuber nowadays. No stupid music, no cutshots, no meaninglessly frolicking around doing random shit. This is how it should be done. Great content and presentation. Keep up the good work! PS - Idky but by your looks I expected your voice to be like that of Jason Momoa but it is very smooth and insanely clear.
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@hasanyassine4646
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to tell him that he has nice eyes also you creep?? The voice quality actually is horrible as he does not have a microphone could not here anything he was saying… If you can’t afford proper kit for shooting videos just don’t do it!
AEW was the best of the lot, legal plus light, nice sounding too👍
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I too quite like it. And looks the nicest as well.
@akhil1781
5 жыл бұрын
is that exhaust legal?
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Don't think so.
@TheTwinPost
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed....they sound the most consistent of them all...decent base and sound really nice (looks good too)
@vishnusimba6136
5 жыл бұрын
@@akhil1781 nope xD at least in bangalore they're not
Thank you so much for this video!! Seldom have i seen a comparitive video of bike exhausts.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I'll do a detailed one with better audio soon.
gursewak was kickass
@wasimakram4145
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 💯.
Tanq so much for the video. It is Definitely gonna help the ppl who are planning to update exhausts of their newly bought RE's. ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Stock. 1:35. ☺️ Gursevak:. 1:49😑 RRP 3:00. 😣 AEW 3:33. 3:48😍
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained.
@sachinkk98
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks akshay....very useful👍🏻
@joshuadsouza675
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Akshay. Thanx for this . so convenient bro!! 👌👌
@ameysawant5746
5 жыл бұрын
You the real MVP
@harikuttanpillai3492
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro😍
much awaited for a video like this on the sound notes of various exhaust .. thanks a lot
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Most welcome :)
Gotta love an AEW exhaust! Sounds great on the REC500…. and sounds great here too! 👍🏻 Think you missed a trick here though by not pulling the baffles out as a bonus clip! Thanks for the compilation!
@abhinavbhatt
Жыл бұрын
This was an unplanned video. Think I have a video somewhere on my channel which has the sound without baffles.
Damn man im loving your videos i was suggested to see your videos by a good friend of mine and im absolutetly loving your work keep it up bro 🙏🏻❤👌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Do thank that friend of yours on my behalf. Cheers buddy
Gursewak is powerful, thanks man for great demo
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
Most welcome.
@aaak733
Жыл бұрын
Are they illegal in Delhi?
@gmresports2414
7 ай бұрын
@@aaak733they are illegal everywhere
Love the stock set up. Got enough rumble to keep company for touring. Others are way too loud for my liking.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
If you hear them in person, you won't find them too loud. The baffles make a huge difference. And now, even Gursewaks are coming with baffles.
@anishabisht4213
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt what's baffles?
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Baffles are small pipes that are inserted inside exhausts so that the flow of gasses get restricted. They help the bike make less noise and pollution.
@mind_blower3825
3 жыл бұрын
@@anishabisht4213 db killer
@vincentabel6654
2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt appreciate you brother you are clearly expanding everything which others don’t know you are so low down to earth in heart I like you
Getting the interceptor 650 in Chrome in May at the Seattle, Wa USA dealership with the S&S exhaust as an accessory. Hoping it will sound as good as some video's I have seen. I have waited 2 yrs for this bike!
@EternalPodcast
5 жыл бұрын
currently riding a 2013 Suzuki TU250X, Bought it with no miles on it in 2015. now with 7,000 miles on it.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, David. I waited for S&S as well but finally ran out of patience. Good choice on the colour. Chrome looks elegant. And from what I have heard, S&S do sound nice. Happy riding. Cheers
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I hope you put a lot more miles on both your bikes :)
@AshU-ug2fy
2 жыл бұрын
I want this bike. You posted this 3 years ago. Can we get an update with thoughts please?
AEW! Damn! I didn't expect that sweet ear drop sound😍🔥✌
I think the AEW are the best they have a nice old school sound, then comes the stock one, then the red rooster as they sound too sporty which doesn't go well with the style of the bike and then at last the Gursewak, i am happy it is an Indian brand but it is not just about how loud you can make it, it is about how nice of an sound you can make it. With a bit of R&D i am sure they can improve...
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I guess so. These are a bit too big as well, but look nice in person. They should have given an option with a baffle.
@superchargedpetrolhead
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt yeah, i guess with a baffle it might sound good, cheers.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Cheers
@jacobroman9965
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be so off topic but does someone know a trick to log back into an instagram account?? I somehow lost my login password. I would love any assistance you can give me!
@allenfrancis3582
2 жыл бұрын
@Jacob Roman Instablaster =)
Great comparison, I really liked the red rooster sound it sounded crisp
You are doing great work Abhinav. Way to go!
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Abhishek :)
I just loved the Red Roosters ,that grumbling sound like something liquidish is stuck in the exhaust sounds amazing ♥️
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
It does sound nice in person.
@yousufmusthaneer9738
3 жыл бұрын
Like some v twin engine
3 customised exhausts are nice.... each have its now way of impressive sound..
One of the best exhaust reviews ive seen !
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I hope to be able to do a detailed one soon.
Woah buddy one of the best interceptor exhaust compilation! 🙌 cheers btw i was trying to go for aew te 102, but my mate's are like red roosters are also better! So if you can atleast tell me which one is way better in your thinking thanks a lot would be helpful 😊
I have AEW T101s on my Interceptor and they sound f@#king AWESOME 💥🔥
The stock exhaust sounds the best! The sound from the stock exhaust tells of a powerful 650 motor, the heavy bass note and shrill lower revs sounds good. Not every bullet has to be a sound polluter. The stock exhaust not only sounds good, but also look bigger and well matched with the bike design. Gursewak exhaust is nothing but stock exhaust engineered without the DB killer.
@sscbkr48
Жыл бұрын
I thought the Gursewak sounded not unlike what RBB WORLD accomplished by opening up both ends of his stock exhaust. Still has the weight but sounded great and for zero $. 👍
Great concept.. Thumbs up for video.
I like the 4th and 3rd one is the best sound . Thank you 🙏.
Not a substantial difference..may be the mic is not able to pick up differences....but yes it is noticeable...nice comparison....keep up the good work Bro
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Could be. I was using my phone to record this. And thank you.
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
It is an LG V30 Plus
Loved the way he directed them. BTW Gursewak is always the KING.
Video I was waiting for!
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Will try to do a flyby too.
Superb job Abhinav!!!
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
I also use AEW’s on my interceptor, they sound lovely.
@sahilpakhare7962
2 жыл бұрын
Which 101 or 102
Great video! Can you test also the s&s exhaust? And where can you buy the luggage rack for the Interceptor? (the penultimate motorcycle with the sissybar) greetings from Germany;) 🇩🇪
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. S&S not available in India yet. But as soon as it will be, there will be a rematch :) For the luggage rack, you could search for Zana motorcycles. They are based in Delhi but ship worldwide.
@RoadRam
5 жыл бұрын
Abhinav Bhatt Thank you very much my friend! I'm very interested in the bike! Unfortunately, there are still few accessories for the interceptor so I thank you very much for your answer! jea a test of the s & s exhaust would be terrific because the exhaust meets the requirements of the German Road Traffic Act (in Europe, the conditions are very strict) Greetings to you! im a german motorcycle/scooter youtuber as well :)
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Lovely. I will check out your channel. 👍
Nice video, bro. Short and sweet.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man.
your videos are always in good details 👌
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, buddy.
Ooh man you made the best decision, those sounds so good..
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Aryan :)
@aryansoni4760
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt Pleasure is all mine.
Man o man ...what a video
@mohitchowdhary
5 жыл бұрын
Chakshu Tikoo dr. Disrespect is that you?
Thanks Abhinav absolutely amazing comparo wished you added few more now like the MW (Moto wings)
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't have access to them, bro.
The perfect comparison 👌🏻
Is any adjustment in the fuel/air ratio required? Is it just a sound change or performance is also modified? Thank you! Cheers from Argentina, where the 650s are about to arrive very soon!
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Hello Rodrigo. No adjustment required at all. It's most sound, minimal change in performance, if at all. Cheers from India.
@paulm2467
5 жыл бұрын
Tec in uk claim 49 bhp with their cans, they sound great as well, have a look at their videos as they say there's a lot to be gained by cleaning up the air intake and putting better air filters in as well.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
We've added a DNA air filter and a piggyback ECU unit. Power has gone up to 50.3 bhp. Will review soon.
@paulm2467
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt sounds good, power up and weight down is always a good thing.
Are they all Legal?
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
No Bulu, they are not. Congratulations on your Interceptor, by the way.
@torqueysailor2597
3 жыл бұрын
but below 3000rpm its sounds like normal....
I enjoyed the comparison and interesting that each has a distinct sound - Stock is my favorite.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Stock cans look hideous though. That's the only reason I changed.
@theradiantchild
Жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt and they're HEAVY
Nice video, thanks. Just deciding what to put on mine.
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
There's a new exhaust that I am running. It is a full system 2x1 stainless steel exhaust that is 11 kg lighter than stock. Search SS Moto. All details on my Instagram.
Sound wise AEW, RED Rooster, GURSEWAK in that order
AEW is the best sounding. It is soothing. And bassy I love it
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@ashish2925
4 жыл бұрын
Moto wing is best ..
@Aravinthakumar100
4 жыл бұрын
@@ashish2925 is motowings sounding good? Better?
@ashish2925
4 жыл бұрын
@@Aravinthakumar100 kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKd8o5mdg8ing7g.html Watch full video bro .... Made in Coimbatore.. But importing quality
@raghub1616
4 жыл бұрын
The aew's are te101 or te 102 model...?
gursewak without the baffles sounds so much nicer. very harmoniously rythmic. no noise
Great. This is a perfect information. Thanks Bro.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Most welcome, Rakesh :)
AEW 💰💯..Best for the soul'. Love Sikkim.
I loved the stock one's, they are very pleasant and balanced.
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Wish they weren't ugly though.
@arnoldnitesh
4 жыл бұрын
They are not ugly at all
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
They don't look nice to me at all. But if you like them, that's good for you.
@arnoldnitesh
4 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt these stock pipes are better than all aftermarket , I tried all after market and I found they are not worth at all.✌️
I really love the looks and sound of the second one..
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Gursewak does sound nice.
Hey man. Really great videos. Thank you for doing this. Besides the sound. Any ideas which pipes give you the most added HP. I feel my continental GT just a bit sluggish off the line. Thanks so much guys.
@abhinavbhatt
3 жыл бұрын
All these pipes will add between 1.5 and 2 BHP. Go by which one looks and sounds nice to you.
No doubts.... AEW exhaust is awesome look and perfect sound.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
My pick as well.
Lol that red rooster and AEW makes it sound like a 500 cc. Cheap. Stock sounds classy.
@navsribe
4 жыл бұрын
Felt stock set up has very good rumble and less noisy
Good comparison.Looking forward to the FLY BY episode.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I'll try to shoot it soon. Cheers
Thank you for making this video, I’m currently waiting for delivery of a 650GT and this video is perfect for selecting which set of pipes to have on my own machine, excellent, keep up the good work, it’s appreciated. From Seàn, isle of sheppey, Kent UK
Fyki Red Rooster is from Coimbatore ... And to me AEW sounds and looks best out of the lot good choice 👍
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Oh damn. I thought Bangalore all this while due to Race Dynamics. Thanks for correcting me.
Aew are the best sounding exhaust among those
Those red roosters sound a bit like my peashooters on my Norton, very cool.
I like to see your videos of modified v3 doing top speeds since a long time I m waiting
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
So am I. But the fuel injector conked off and I need a new one to make the bike run properly. Till I can't get that, there's no point as the bike just won't perform.
bro we need flybys of all
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. I bike had been in a workshop the last two months. As soon as I have it back, I will make some flyby videos.
East or WEST, the stock is the best! :)
@ojastushar8123
5 жыл бұрын
It's too wide, that's the problem. Many people scratch it while trying to squeeze past you or when it's parked :(
@arnoldnitesh
5 жыл бұрын
@@ojastushar8123 let them sratch it's just iron pipe anyway , putting at home has no use
@GregoryHouseMD1
5 жыл бұрын
@@arnoldnitesh Some people keep their bikes at home and do pooja only!
Wow!!! Sounds really feel like a big cruisers (1200cc)
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
The bikes definitely sound nice.
I just cannot choose between the INT and the GT.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Ride them back to back over a slightly long distance.
@UDSafarnama
4 жыл бұрын
Cody S. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5No2dWviJfVops.html
Bro when will you ride Yamaha r15
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Still not ready, my friend.
My friend has aew mounted, sounds really premium and refined... With the dbkillers ofcourse
Very informative video. Thank you so much..! :)
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Joseph.
U need to visit the Red Rooster Shop down here in Bangalore sometime Abhinav.. Your mind will be blown by how much work these chaps put in to ensure max efficiency n power.. They've a long standing history when it comes to racing n rallying.. Edit : I can neither confirm nor deny thers a lil bias on ma end bcos my friend is one of their official partners 😬
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Sure, Rahul. I agree. And I know they dyno test their products extensively. In my next video, I will try to talk about these things in detail. All the best to RRP.
@rahulsudhir666
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt Right on ma man! Subbed to your channel bcos u seem to know wat you're talkin about compared to most other Indian biker KZreadrs.. Keep up the good work brother!
@karthikkrishna5870
5 жыл бұрын
Rahul Sudhir perhaps you can send your products for feedback from Abhinav :D
@rahulsudhir666
5 жыл бұрын
@@karthikkrishna5870 I think that's kinda doable if Abhinav were to come down sometime.. I can at least put him through to them.. RRP have their HQ inside the same industrial estate n about two buildings away from my Uncle's factory.. So back when I was in college, I'd go n hangout outside n ogle at all de amazing stuff they had inside.. N then one day a guy saw me loitering around n asked what I was up to.. So I told him about my uncle having a business in the same compound n that the stuff they had scattered around fascinated me.. The guy asked me to follow him in n gave me a full guided tour of the place n let me rev the Evo X they'd finished working on.. So then I told him that I should probably leave bcos the owner of the place won't be happy about it.. N he replied : "Relax. I'm the owner n you're free to be here all u want".. That very owner is ex Indian rallying royalty Leelakrishnan Narayanaswamy.. Needless to say, he made ma day!
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I've been a big fan of Leela's work and Red Rooster in general. I wish I had the time to come down and explore their HQ. And in fact even get my vehicles built by them. Some day, maybe.
Frankly speaking i love the stock exhaust which suits perfectly !!
@vishnu6274
3 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@lauralassan325
3 жыл бұрын
Its too big. Big exhaust doesn't suit in cafe racer. Look at diablo exhaust for gt its the best looking exhaust
@lalnablehector1285
7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a washing machine with stock pipes
Red rooster n AEW 👍 thanks for the review man . Will get either one when i got my bike
Great seeing people loving motorcycles around the world!
@jayk6087
3 жыл бұрын
What this statement in a country where the oldest continuous production bike brand owned and exists. Hmmmm.
AEW sounds awesome ... Candy for ears !!! 👍
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Very bassy.
your accent sounds like john Abraham.good video my beard 🎅 brother.👏
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
He's a cool guy. Thanks mate.
I selected my aftermarket exhaust after watching this video. Thankyou guys for the help me choose one and I really love the one I ordered. ♥️ from 🇬🇧. Bloody loud...
@abhinavbhatt
3 жыл бұрын
But which one did you get?
@vmartin5505
3 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt AEW...
@abhinavbhatt
3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Good choice.
Great video...a big thumbs up for bhatt ji
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
🙏
Gursewak❤️
Is it just me or the stock sounds the best. Absolutely balanced rumble. Being Loud is not everything imo.
thank you Abhi impressive
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
🙏
I like the 4th one. It looks awesome n excellent sound
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. AEW. That's my bike, by the way.
Am I the only one who heard "Good sevak" ? 😂😂
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Hahahhaha
@deepakkataria117
5 жыл бұрын
Gur Sevak
Gurusewak sounded best
Nice job.👍
Some ride bys would have been great !
NO1.gurusevak / NO 2. AEW
gurusevak
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty good.
Try red roosters and AEW without baffle- they sound amazing specially with increased base
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
But they are too loud without baffles and I don't want that.
Good luck with the new exhaust and you should check for new rto rules
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I know they aren't legal and the new rules suck. Just absolutely illogical.
Honestly speaking, best sounding exhaust is Stock exhaust, second is AEW, rest all are useless
@patrickyumnam1106
5 жыл бұрын
Ganesh Vadcar agree . Expect SNS does good
Thanks for the review katappa😂😂 This is just a joke pls don’t take it seriously 😂❤️
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Haha. No worries ✌
By far the best video on RE 650s... #pureEcstasy
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Faisal.
What is the mileage difference after installing the gursewak with and without the baffles
Red rooster perfect.
Stock and AEW. ❤️
Your top speed 158 got the most like video u have done bro so pls make soon bro waiting for tat mini R1
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I will bro. I soon will.
Boss covered complete road... Good job
@abhinavbhatt
4 жыл бұрын
Boss, this is a service road. Don't try and act smart. Sometimes, one comes across as a fool while doing that.
AEW 😍😘💪🏼👌🏻
AEW sounds good on idle. Gursewak might win in a flyby.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Gursewak too loud man. Just too loud.
@Dheeeeraj
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt yeah, living with it daily might get hectic !
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
Great video Abhinav! Waiting for your next one. P.S. - I booked the Interceptor way back in mid November but RE's been dilly dallying with the delivery since then. Last I checked they said it'll happen in April. :/
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Damn. That's some wait. What colour are you waiting for? I booked mine on launch day and was one of the first to get delivery.
@ivandavid21
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt Mark Three (Black) - Standard color!
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
I thought only Baker Express commanded that kind of waiting period.
@ivandavid21
5 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavbhatt I thought the same! The dealer has been telling me that RE haven't started mass production of that specific color, hence the delay.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Quite possible. Where are you from? My friends got the black.
Best video ever
Gursevak is the best that shit sounded like a inline 4 ❤️
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Without the baffles, the others would sound similar too, I guess.
hit like if you disliked red rooster
@OSHIGUAY
5 жыл бұрын
Aew the beast sound
@josephdebbarma6492
5 жыл бұрын
Red rooster is fucking carzy
Does AEW decrease mileage? And does it have any damage over ECU & engine?
Actually all three aftermarket exhaust is good. Before watching this video I was with AWE. But now I am gonna go with Gursewak. Don’t take it personally because it’s sounds so loaded and full of bass. But it’s better to have an exhaust system, which you can control with dB killer.
@abhinavbhatt
5 жыл бұрын
Why would I take it personally? All four exhausts sound nice to me. One should always go with whichever appeals to them. Cheers
Red rooster sounded shit, i would prefer stock over it.