I’ve rewatched red dwarf more then Star Trek, well anything really! A masterpiece of fun! The older series 100% hold up, it’s so well written! 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😂😂😂😂

@tilasole3252

4 ай бұрын

This and Are You Being Served I've seen dozens of times. But unlike the later AYBS episodes after Mr Lucas left, Red Dwarf all the way through is still pretty good.

27:27 - Weirdly, I think Ed's response here is pretty telling of the attitude around Season 7 and onwards. If you go back to the earlier seasons documentaries, you hear the cast talking about how seriously Grant and Naylor took their concepts and applied them rigidly to their scripts. It was never "Who cares, we made it up anyway", they put thought and effort into it and could usually field off the crew's questions. I've seen the excuse of "the rule of funny" but the reason Red Dwarf was such a classic with a dedicated fanbase was because it wasn't *just* a sitcom, it did the work to introduce sci-fi concepts with a level of internal consistency that paid off with greater audience engagement.

@kellyjeaularson5786

Ай бұрын

No matter what genre a writer writes, continuity is a must.

@brianm2881

12 сағат бұрын

There are loads of inconsistencies in Red Dwarf, to be fair, even going back before the time drive. For example, in Kryten, Kryten is shown to break his programming at the end of that very episode, telling off Rimmer, before driving off on a motorbike, dressed in leather, yet in subsequent episodes, he can barely tell a lie and has to break his programming all over again. So, there wasn't as much internal consistency as you think, even before S7. And, anyway, Ed Bye would be the wrong man to confront because he's a director and it's not his job to maintain logical plot consistency across episodes and series. That's really more up to the writer(s). Red Dwarf was just one of the many things he directed/produced.

@kellyjeaularson5786

5 сағат бұрын

@@brianm2881 👍

Series 7, has some of my fav episodes I remember dying when i saw BLUE I still ring the song every now and again

The fake crodile was hilarious 😂 I still love that scene to this day

@Mark-lj1dj

8 ай бұрын

One of my all time favourite red dwarf scenes. Series 7 was very well done

@Dennis-555

8 ай бұрын

The modern motorbike in the early 1900's, classic.

@alanbeckett4

7 ай бұрын

I think Doug has missed the point, regretting that it was cheesy. Ace Rimmer is the cheesiest comic invention in Sci Fi! What did he want, Ace to 'realistically' sky surf on a 'realistic' looking crocodile?

Aside from the show being great, it's surprising how well spoken and likeable every single person involved with it seems to be!

"so we wrote a scene inspired by james bond where ace rimmer surfs a crocodile" "It ended up looking a little cheesy"

Don Henderson who played the simulant sadly died a year after filming his Red Dwarf scenes. Series 7 was filmed in 1996 and Don died in June 1997. He had throat cancer, which was very noticeable in his scenes on Red Dwarf, his voice was going as mentioned by Craig.

@kylerennie30

10 ай бұрын

As horrible as it may sound, the vocal issue brought on by the throat cancer actually made his character a fair bit scarier.

Chloe Annet, literally my first crush 😋💓💓

I watched series 7 when I was about 12. As I was into Star Trek at the time, I rather liked the new look they gave it along with the added CGI. The JFK story was genuinely great and I still love it. The Ace Rimmer episode beginning felt like it was supposed to be cheesy, again loved it. Shame there wasn’t more Rimmer in series 7 but I think they managed to pull it off rather well. This is British Science Fiction, it’s supposed to be just a little bit crap! It wouldn’t work if it was perfect! Dealing with absolutely huge ideas that the Americans really can’t handle and at the same time making it funny…. A grand plan with very few resources! Well done to everyone that worked on it. I loved every second! Oh and by the way, that was a T-55 with ERA not a T-72!

This series 7 was actually my first introduction to Red Dwarf (and look back it now, I understand on why most fans overlooked this and prefer the original ending to Series 6 and Skipped over to Series X)

Chlöe Annette is truly a gorgeous woman and funny to boot

This is the first time I've heard that Chris Barrie wanted to leave the show. I kind of wish I had not found out. I thought they loved working on it together.

@wwemusicfanC

5 ай бұрын

They did. Its just that Chris was more or less burnt out by then. Out of all the cast members, he had nearly triple the work load with all the alternate versions of himself compared to Caig, Danny or Robert. He's talked about how he just needed a break, but ended up missing the crew and came back.

1:07:40 - The T72 tank didn't enter production until 1969, which was long after WWII had ended...

I loved it

thank you thank you thank you! ive been hoping to find this as my dvd is scratched to hell in this area

Great review, loved the Red Dwarf Series.

The tank that kryten drives is now in the dezerland park in Florida

Red Dwarf ruuuuules 🤘

I love the story lines of seasons 7 and 8. I always like the unexpected plots of Red Dwarf.

smeggin' brilliant that is

thanks for uploading

@RandallFlagg1972

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

@RandallFlagg1972

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

The show lost something with them spliting up. The subtle, cyncial grit of Grant's writing is noticably absent with the more high brow, heightened concepts of Doug Naylor. Saying that a purely grant scripted Red Dwarf would've been very, VERY restrictive on the sci-fi ideas and might've got cancelled sooner and aged worse. We never would've got Kryten.

Gary Martin was Vince Fontaine in the musical GREASE when it returned to the west end in 1993.

Craig Charles must not be paying attention if he thinks British comedy doesn't allow for pathos in moments and US sitcoms do. Has he ever seen Steptoe.

i have been watching chateau diaries, for quite a while, and if anyone has ever noticed the name of the friges, they use in their video''s ????

Alternate dimensions is just one theory of Quatum Mechanics, I wouldnt say it was real, more bonkers science. If you think about it is a crazy theory. Still good fun though. :)

Wait what! They did an American version!? Well, I didn't know that. I would have thought the Americans just wouldn't get it.

1:40 Who is that actor without glasses...? I've seen him in something. 22:56 Beautiful car! Chevrolet...? Chloe Annett...I love you! x

jesus, i thought they were thought they were talking about the other michael shannon as JFK

@JagerLange

3 ай бұрын

I went and looked it up as that's what I thought too - I was sure I would've known that if it were the case...

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGSsxNKdk8u4o9o.html Robert Llewellyn's video diary which he recorded during filming of Beyond a Joke.

36:50 this is the ace rimmer funeral music kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqOilNCRocaafKw.html i absolutely adore this piece

Boy is my finger not on the pulse! Love RD but Duct Soup is my all time least favourite

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1:14:20 Not to be unkind to the bloke, but I think Epideme could have been quite a good episode if it hadn't been for Gary Martin's ridiculously OTT voice over.

I love how Craig and Chris didn't particularly get on to begin with and slowly warmed to eachother as the series' went on. The fact that they were probably at their closest by S7-8 so that kiss was like the culmination of their journey together.

55:00 😂😂😂

@axelshawAk

7 ай бұрын

Yessss! I was going say the same thing!!!! 😂 you could tell they loved it

@Mark-lj1dj

7 ай бұрын

​@@axelshawAkCraig Charlesian Liverpool supporting poparee 😂

1:12:20 - Watching this little bit from Ed Bye now in 2023, after we have lived through the hell which was Covid era of 2020 to 2022 and what he says here about "viruses" is interesting.

@SuborbitalPigeon

5 ай бұрын

What's that? I've never heard anything like this on video comment sections the last 4 years.

I rewatched series 7 recently, for the first time in about 15-20 years. The show definitely jumped the shark when Rob Grant left, and Kochanski's character is so horribly written I feel sorry for Chloe Annett, but honestly series 7 has aged REALLY well. A lot of 90s stuff has aged better than expected, but RD series 7 is really strong. Stoke Me a Clipper, the vastly-underrated Duct Soup, Blue and Epideme are absolute belters. Tikka to Ride is uncomfortable and the Pride and Prejudice one is easily the worst. EDIT: The CGI is absolutely horrible though, the VFX are such a step back from series 6. It even looked shit at the time and I'm pretty sure Craig Charles criticised it later on.

Wow you can feel the tension oozing out of this one, must've been some atmosphere at the time. Literally go to the Series 8 doc, which must;ve been filmed around the same time, or any of the others and they are lightheartedly chuckling about this that went wrong or a cast member doing that, which was annoying at the time but now is very funny, not quite the same this one, lot of agitation, clipped voices and gritted teeth. I think the shift to a comedy drama is a really interesting point, I do think Series 7 is the weakest despite my personal view that having Kochanski was a really positive move but mainly due to Rimmer's absence, how can you do the odd couple without one of the odd couple. If you take them as comedy dramas I think Tikka to Ride, Duct Soup and Epideme are quite outstanding. Blue is meh because it's reaching backwards, Stoke me a Clipper is a bit too tailored for a glorious send off rather than because it suits the series, Ouroboros is bogged down with so much exposition, Beyond a joke starts well but loses it's way and Nanarchy I think is just a weak episode that ends the series on a low note.

Red Dwarf is my fav show ever ! but just a quick one (what happened holy aka the male)

@pauladamson9749

5 ай бұрын

Norman moved to Scotland and didn't want to travel down all the time to do the rehersals and live studio shows when only on a TV screen. He chose to move, he was always bitter about his screen time and lower pay and was a pain in the arse bringing the set down - all gathered from the commentaries, he still even whines on them! Still he came back as Holly from season X onwards IIRC.

1:04:12 - Well Robert that idea goes all the way back to Star Trek: The Next Generation, where Data their android discovers he has a "brother" called Lore, both created by their same creator Dr. Noonien Soong. So Star Trek was around a decade ahead of Red Dwarf on that story.

@RandallFlagg1972

Жыл бұрын

Agreed that its not necessarily an original idea, but some of the best comedy work is lampooning serious drama e.g. Airplane

@stitcha123

Жыл бұрын

The whole of red dwarf is just a spoof of trek and alien.

@AndrewChapman

10 ай бұрын

@@stitcha123 And a touch of Star Wars too.

@SuborbitalPigeon

5 ай бұрын

Don't give me any of that Star Trek crap, it's too early in the morning

27:36-28:09 Jeez, someone clearly took the show way too seriously. Since Red Dwarf is a sitcom, does it really matter if the time drive isn't handled correctly? Even Stephen Hawking (RIP) once stated the show doesn't take itself too seriously or try to be politically correct like other sci-fi shows. Hope that smeghead doesn't have a KZread account and still moans about Ed Bye breaking the rules of the time drive.

@ShamrockParticle

8 ай бұрын

"Rule of funny", yup. It's not like Red Dwarf altered continuity before, Kochanski and Lister were never an item until around series 4 when it was revealed they had dated for a while (DNA). Which is arguably irritating as the show wasn't outright slapstick, but Red Dwarf somehow made it work. For the most part.

@misterwishart

3 ай бұрын

"Does it really matter if the time drive isn't handled correctly?" I mean, if you want people to care about your sci-fi stories: Yeah, it kinda does. It's easier for an audience to engage with genres that involve obscure concepts like sci-fi, fantasy, horror etc. if you establish what the "rules" are. That means they know what is and isn't possible and it makes engagement much smoother. The guy in question obviously was far too sensitive (also: How would it be Ed's fault as director??) but Ed's response is also pretty telling if that was the attitude around Series 7.

after season 2 red dwarf went down hill and then fell into a deep pit this season was an epic fail never even watch'd all of them but then season 8 brilliant after all those years holly(original) n rimmer are a must

I love S7, the series matured and there was some character growth with callbacks to past stories. Anett was a great addition and a foil to both Kryten and Lister. And it still had some great humour, just not some of the shallow 'knob gags' some of the harcore RD fan base wanted. That, and I think some of them didn't want a woman on the show for... reasons.

@mikesmithz

2 ай бұрын

Because women are not funny. Watching an episode of Red Dwarf is like hanging out with the lads down at the pub - and no one wants their mate bringing their bird with them to the pub. The whole dynamic changes, and it becomes boring.

@TroyConvers5000

2 ай бұрын

@@mikesmithz and that's why you're single. What a stone age attitude to have, you misogynist. Get some air and a clue.

I didnt like cloe annett in this, prefered the orignal kachnaski i think season 8 onwards it didnt feel like red dwarf anymore personally

@TakeNoteOfThat

7 ай бұрын

Exactly this

@TroyConvers5000

4 ай бұрын

Except Claire Grogan is a crap actor.

@tilasole3252

3 ай бұрын

I would have preferred Claire if they were going to still use the character Kochanski. However Chlöe was just absolutely the better actress. From the very first shot till the end, she was perfect. Great range of emotion and facial expressions, funny and gorgeous to boot!

It has been downhill from series 7. Rob Grant took the funny with him when he left.

Thr Notion that Every human Beings's decisions split off into a parallel universe, or existence, requires a level of personal/individual and very human-centric conceit on the part of every consciousness that exists. That apart from including insects and animals too. This conceit means that it cannot be true. The only way you can square this theory is that you or I are everything everywhere in every time. It's not a question that you are real and I am not. It's that you ARE me! Now go and have a little sit down bro.

No. It's NOT scientific. There are no parallel universes.

@hollandsemum1

7 ай бұрын

I agree about differing choices being the source of parallel universes. But as far as I know, the general concept of parallel universes hasn't been proven or disproven. So please prove they don't exist at all using academic math & physics research.

27:35 Someone got an autism diagnosis after that meeting...

@erosion271

10 ай бұрын

i love red dwarf but the people who go to those conventions are an unique bunch

@sarahjrandomnumbers

10 ай бұрын

@@erosion271 Everytime I see a clip from them, I cringe so hard my back cracks.

@AndrewChapman

10 ай бұрын

@@sarahjrandomnumbers They're the real smegheads lol

Season 7 and 8 were garbage. Funny enough it took until season 11/12 for it to get funny again,

@finenebula

9 ай бұрын

Some of the new writers were just not up to it

@leeauld4216

9 ай бұрын

I think 10 was a decent return to form, and more importantly, they reverted back to the classic 'golden era' of Dwarf formula (season 3-6)

@ShamrockParticle

8 ай бұрын

​@leeauld4216 seconded. Series 10 got made only because people tuned into BTE out of nostalgia, which was originally a one-off reunion special. I didn't expect 10 to be as robust as it was, but 10 does hang in there with the greats (2-6 IMHO).

@valley_robot

7 ай бұрын

I remember when the show life on Mars was being filmed in the street below my bands rehearsal room, I wanted until it was all quiet on the set and then shouted "action", fun times, it was chaos

Series 7 was the biggest disappointment. Most of it was just not funny, by far the worst series.

Always thought the show peaked at series 6. The cliffhanger and years of waiting as a kid built up so much. But sadly it was never able to gain the same balance of comedy and jeopardy and was never as good. 0

It’s one of those series that I regularly watch over and over again, I always find it funny even though I know what’s going to be said next. Some people just don’t understand. Smoke me a prepper 🫑 and I’ll dump on trump for breakfast! Just wish there was more of them, red dwarf that is, not trump