Recreating my Amiga 500 Setup Episode II: The Amiga!
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This is the second part of my 2018 Xmas series. The mission is to recreate my first Amiga 500 setup from back in the day. In this episode, I unbox, test and refurb my original Amiga 500 from 1987.
Includes retrobrighting, cleaning, a bit of repairing and a lot of nostalgia.
Here's the whole Amiga 500 Setup Recreation Series:
Part 1 (The 1084 Monitor): • Recreating my Amiga 50...
Part 2 (The Amiga): • Recreating my Amiga 50...
Part 3 (Bits & Pieces): • Recreating my Amiga 50...
Part 4 (Amiga Repair): • Recreating my Amiga 50...
Part 5 (The Internal Disk Drive): • Recreating my Amiga 50...
Part 5a (The RAM Expansion): • Commodore A501 RAM Exp...
Part 6 (Status Update): • Recreating my Amiga 50...
The tracks used for the soldering/timelapse portions of the video are called "8-bit wannabe" and "Fride" and were kindly provided by Focus 10 aka Øystein Hansen. Thank you! Check out more of his work here: / user-993847645
Focus 10's tune "8-bit wannabe" is now also available as a single from CDBaby/iTunes/Spotify: store.cdbaby.com/cd/focus101
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I still have my 500 that I bought in 1987, watching this really makes me want to see if it all still works.
@JanBeta
4 жыл бұрын
Do it! :)
Incredible nostalgia and family memories....I cracked when i saw The writing on The drive.....
Nice result mate! Just goes to show that retrobriting can work quite well given enough care and attention. Love this nostalgic series too. Your friend in retro, Perifractic
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Really happy with the result, but as we all know your mileage may vary with retrobrighting. :)
My first A500 was second hand, my buddy and I brought a copy of "Shadow of the Beast" to test the system. (I'm not sure if that was truly a good test bed but my friend insisted it was). Then I created a Frankenstein by attaching a "Bodega Bay" which allowed me to add the Zorro II cards and eventually a toaster... Ahh memories, I remember hooking up a 80 meg hard drive thinking I'll never fill this thing up! ;)
@apemoon1731
5 жыл бұрын
'Shadow of the Beast' was the first thing I ever saw on the A500. It blew me away. Still does.
What a brilliant result Jan, you must be very pleased with the results. It will live on for at least another 30 years.Great video
Good job hanging onto an original Amiga box (whether or not it's the original box the Amiga came in when your dad bought it) after over 25 years! When our kids were small, "Santa" would use big computer boxes to hide their presents in; later on, the boxes which were small enough to be liftable when filled usually got reused as shipping boxes for eBay packages.
Nice! It took out some memories of me and my father going to buy the A500 and a A1011 disk drive, in 1989. After a while, he brought the memory expansion card, a compatible one without clock, and a Star LC20 to print. First disk inserted: WB1.3, first game was Afterburner II. Still have the diskettes and the Amiga 500 (and many others, yup). Cheers, M
@12:36 Wow...that's almost an entire beardworth of fluff =) this is one of the best amiga restorations i've seen so far ...thank you jan beta...this warmed my heart =)
i can see your dad put some love on those amiga, and now you're continuing on his job. such good videos man
@sheep1ewe
5 жыл бұрын
Neither did my things. They are still pretty frech.
Whenever I see restoration like this my heart always beat faster. Applauze!
Priceless Feelings !!! A500 Rev.5 is still Alive👍 Great Video
You've done a great job on it Jan. Glad you got the disk drive back up and running....🎅🎅🎅Kim🎅🎅🎅
So many hour i had spend on this machine so thanks again for making me remember the late 1980- early 1990
Quite fun to follow this series of videos. The Amiga is quite an interesting computer, like its 8-bit predecessors. I rarely compose Amiga music, since I'm not too crazy about the sample-based soundchips, but it's fun to try to make a song using 4 channels, especially since one can get around the limit by using a sampled chord as one instrument.
Awesome videos. Great job. Hi from Berlin.
It's called a socket, or if it's in the form of a screwdriver, it's sometimes called a nutrunner.
it takes me back too. my 500 had a faulty av cable which meant we ending getting a 1200
It makes me very happy to see an Amiga in such good condition.
Very nice result, looks like new after retrobrighting it :) My Amiga could use retrobright treatment as well :D Removed the battery from my Amiga 500 Ram expansion real time clock already in 2006 as it started showing signs of corrosion. I've taken apart my Amiga only once in the 1990's, might be about time to take another look sometime soon...
Nice work. Takes ages but worth it. Keep it up.
@JanBeta
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Patience is definitely needed.
Always enjoy your videos. I just restored my own Amiga 500 from back in the days. Merry christmas Jan!
Best way to do the keys is leave them on the keyboard, remove the membrane then coat them with peroxide gel, then leave them in the sun. Happy holidays!
You've done a great job on that Jan; always nice to see a tired looking sysyem restored to its' former glory! Keep up the great work and Merry Christmas!
Nicely done. It turned out awesome. That motherboard is such a treat to work on, just like the c64 board. Also, the picture usually gets slightly better after a recap. I dont trust that powersupply either, i think i would have got a laptop powersupply with the correct voltages, and made some mods to that to make it fit. Also, turrican series is my favorite platform games ever.
Thanks for posting this - lots of great tips and tricks for restorations
It looks fantastic! It really does look almost brand new! Good work.
I guess this is what they call "being early" and then you post a comment about it and that somehow makes you cool. As you can all clearly see I, being such a fine gentleman and scholar, am completely above all that.
Wishing you a Good Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year. Warmest regards, Wayne Brill & Nina Evans.
Ofcourse it was Turrican 2 :D I used to play that game every day when I came back home from school before doing homework back in the days. Sooooo many memories.
Oh my goodness, this turned out beautifully! You're giving me second thoughts on not retrobriting my own A500. :)
Godamn I love the Amiga 500!
I would probably have measured the ESR and capacitance on the removed capacitors, just out of interest, to see if there was any evidence that they had started to degrade or not. I have an early chicken-lips A500 in my modest collection. It only really gets used as a novelty every once in a while because I have higher performance AMIGAs to use as "daily runners". But I haven't changed out the electrolytics and this is probably a good idea since a bad electrolytic can end up causing some damage to the PCB and in some cases this damage can be impossible to repair without leaving a scar on the motherboard, which is kind of a shame. So maybe I'll do a video, inspired by this one, and I'll measure the capacitors that come out of the machine to see what's up with them.
Actually, (i don't exactly remember if was him) Adrian Black did some test on retrobriting, and he found out that the light and the ozone that the peroxide creates is the most important, so, you should have put the key upside. They turned out quite good tho
Great Lips TV, I love that brand XD
Super nice! I love your videos so much! Great Work Jan, really great ! I hope you will try to enjoy this Amiga as much as you can, and as much as life in general allows you (I have a kid and I know you have as well, which means time is not as much as we hope, hehehehe). Anyways, I am looking forward to seeing how this whole series ends up! :-)
Nice! It looks like new to me. glad you were able to get it all sorted out, I would have been worried for your morale otherwise!
Love your videos! Very interesting and informative :)
Great video!
Good job ! Superb !
Great job 😎
Nice Video,Jan! Greetings from a Hungarian fan from Hessen
Love your vids man!
Gonna Watch it ASAIC hope it turned out great!
Frohe Weihnachten!
I'm sure those keys that are too bright right now, is because they actually sun-faded...the yellowing covered that up...now that you removed that yellowing, the color is faded
I love what you’re doing. What type of gele light do you use by the way? I have just bought a very yellowed C64C, inspired by you, MsMadLemon and Perifractic.. Your videos are very detailed which helps a lot! But saving for the gear first..
Your father is a hero, having kept not only the Amiga but also the packaging in such an incredibly good condition! :) I may have missed the info in the video but I'm curious whether this Amiga 500 was equipped with KS 1.3 from the beginning?! Because the board is dated 30/1987 and afaik KS1.3 only came out in 1988. But maybe I'm wrong. :)
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
I think I mumbled it at some point in the video: it came with 1.2 and my father upgraded it to 1.3 as soon as that was available. :)
@ZedBeeblebrox
5 жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta Ah! Thanks for the clarification. Yes, that makes perfect sense. :)
@sjarken3979
5 жыл бұрын
After what i can remember, the difference between KS1.2 and KS1.3 was that KS1.2 didnt have hard drive booting, so you had to insert a disk that told the machine to boot from the harddrive. While KS1.3 did so automatically if you didnt insert a disk before the boot.
I always use 12% Hydrogen Peroxide liquid. I have 2 50w UV LED lamps and it is the UV that is most important. I never use any heat (apart from the very low temperature from my lamps, which I can hardly feel) and I get brilliant results every time. Heat is really not needed at all.
The opposite of an allen wrench in the States - is just generally referred to as a socket - you have metric or standard measurements of them - but yeah you take those risers out with a 'socket'
Another great series, Jan. Unfortunately, I sold my 1987 Amiga 500 in order to buy an Amiga 1200 -- but inspired by you, once again, I have picked up an A500 in very good cosmetic condition but needs repair, won't boot. Also, I have to say I envy your Retrobrite setup -- it seems to work quite well. Can I get more info on the grow light you use?
@CatsGamesWhatever
5 жыл бұрын
His mother bought it for him as a gift off his Amazon wishlist.
Sehr cool! Ich freue mich schon auf den nächsten Part! Ich muss mich auch endlich mal wieder mit meiner Sammlung beschäftigen. Aber wie es denn immer so ist...man kommt zu nix, wenn Kinder im Haus sind :) Was war das denn für ein weisser senkrechter Strich beim letzten Test auf der rechten Seite im Bild? Grüße aus Bremen.
Any plans on fitting it with an external Gotek in a case with a boot selector? I plan on doing that with my Rev5.
Those bits for hexagonal things are most likely called "nut spinners". At least, thats what I've heard them called.
Wish I had an Amiga. Good video still though! Hope you make more commodore 64 videos!
@retrogamer33
5 жыл бұрын
I have one and I don't like it at all
is this the one they call chickenlips edition, because of the embosed logo? i also thought that would go together with the keyboard with a C logo on what later became the left Amiga key. but now i dont know for sure anymore where that keybourd should fit in originally. can you do a small explanation on that one time? perhaps.
good plan.
maybe you need a magnetic laboratory shaker to retrobrite the keys
Curious. How many watts is the grow light you use for retrobriting?
Great video as always. I hope you can get that 1084 working. I am considering retrobrighting my A500 - it is terribly yellow if you have seen it in any of my videos. My concern is that the plastic is also quite brittle now too. Have you noticed any change in brittleness of the plastic after treatment? I don't want to cause more damage to my case.
@DanielSchneller
5 жыл бұрын
I did the same to mine, and there was no change in the structure of the plastic at all. My keys were more evenly yellowed (close to what Jan‘s number keys), and all the originally dark keys become much brighter than before - but without the yellow, which I consider a win. If you’re interested, I did not film it, but took quite a few pictures along the way: www.danielschneller.com/2018/01/amiga-500-restoration-retrobrighting-i.html
The darker keys that got lighter might be due to drying out, try to use some Armor All protectant on them to see if they get darker.
I really, REALLY need to do this. I had a decent system back in the day; an A500 with an internal 512k memory upgrade, an A590 20mb hard drive with an additional 2 meg of RAM, two external 3.5 inch drives and a 1084 monitor. I also had a mountain of original software. My ex - wife sold it for peanuts on a car boot sale after we split up.😭💔😠😠😠😠😠
A socket, the tool that removed the nuts from the connector. A socket, a set is a socket set.
Parabéns pelo projeto gostaria de saber mais sobre o HD deste Pc e aquela entrada do lado da placa mãe
I didn't know the ram expansions were originally part of the main board.. that's an interesting tipbit..
@alhartman66
5 жыл бұрын
Tidbit.
@bazza5699
5 жыл бұрын
thanks Al
@NicolaiSyvertsen
5 жыл бұрын
More like manufactured on the same PCB panel then cut off and sold as addon. It was never planned to be part of the 500 as standard, RAM chips were too expensive for that. Of course I'm sure some runs they just didn't bother populating that part otherwise they would have made just as many ram expansions as they made 500s and I don't believe they did. A lot of people bought cheaper third party ram expansions anyways.
I would love to recreate my Amiga setup from back in the day....A1200t with PPC/Bvision
At 26:34 is that a ZX plectrum 🤣🤣
I am curious you didn't mention (unless it was in another video) what you did to get it to display on your LCD monitor.
@JanBeta
2 жыл бұрын
I‘m mostly using an OSSC upscaler/Scan doubler these days. I think in this old video I might still have used an inexpensive Flylink branded upscaler for the job. I only use that one for testing things on the bench currently because it adds quite some lag and the video quality isn’t great.
What is that light device that you use? Model #? I would like to get one.
So....you did the BrixtyFour....any thoughts of applying this concept to the Amiga?
Are you gonna install CF+HD+RAM board there?
Excellent Jan now that is a clean lookin' Amiga! Ich muss nach der Blackbox fragen, die Sie dort haben, mit dem Hintergrundbefehl. Es steht drauf "POKE 53281, 0" Wie ich mich erinnere, ist dies ein Befehl, der die Hintergrundfarbe des Commodore schwarz macht. Sie haben vielleicht vorher gesagt, was es ist, aber es tut mir leid, wenn ich es hier wiederhole, aber was ist das, was Sie dort haben?
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Die Box ist ein SCART zu HDMI upscaler, um den modernen Monitor an den Amiga anzuschließen. Ich habe ihn ein bisschen verbessert, weil das Gerät sonst sehr heiß wird. Es gibt bald auch ein Video dazu.
@SaintKaede
5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh ok, dann werde ich weiter zusehen.
Nice..
Can you please link the growlight?
Wow an Action replay III, correct me if im wrong but that one had 'Burst Nibbler' in it. I used the Replay II religiously along with my Devpac, Pro/Soundtracker Dpaint3 combo. Way to many great memories of coding M68k ( queue the way back when machine music! ), Nice cleanup and re-cap, Nichicon is has been my goto brand for fixing LCD Tv's with Capton ( X ) crapton caps that bulge / burst. ( Showing my age now ) for the Action Replay |||, if you type at the prompt 'may the force be with you' you get some nifty response, there is another line you use to which it says try a new one if you type new you open up extra things, ( took a quick gander online ), www.vware.at/winuaehelp/SetUpActionReplay.html
What type of lamp are you using?
Did you cut yourself over the cardboard? I couldn’t stop staring at the stain. 😂
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
Ha! It was actually meant to look like blood. I refined my Halloween costume with some red spray paint. ;)
Amiga is a nice gaming console.
@TheLemminkainen
5 жыл бұрын
A500 is fully computer
Um. What's that vertical white line at 48:32? It's partially visible on the next screen, too. I'm pretty sure that wasn't there before.
@IDPhotoMan
5 жыл бұрын
I was curious about that too
@philrod1
5 жыл бұрын
@@IDPhotoMan - Oops. Definitely not there at 16:20
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s because of the cracked version I used (I also own the original actually). I mentioned the stripe thing in the unedited video and accidentally edited it out. This version of Turrican randomly shows the stripe on all Amigas I’ve tested it with. So normal behavior in this case.
@IDPhotoMan
5 жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta :-)
@philrod1
5 жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta - Dang! I thought we were going to get a repair video out of it. Oh, well. I'd rather it not be your personal Amiga that needs fixing 👍
This is some incredibly great Retro Tech Porn, Love It! LOL😁👍
i cant get past the boot work bench 1.3 screen.. i guess my floppy isnt working properly?
It looked to me as if the RAM Expansion had been painted with varnish.
18:13 that's call a socket
What modifications have been made to that scart to hdmi adapter?
@lordmuaddib
5 жыл бұрын
it's one of those unnamed chinese black bricks. not outstanding but it's good for a dirty cheap converter. easy to find on ebay. there's an "hd" sign on the top and 3 buttons on the front
@Stjaernljus
5 жыл бұрын
@@lordmuaddib i have one of those but i was asking what modifications had been done to it as it looks modified.
@lordmuaddib
5 жыл бұрын
@@Stjaernljus hmm to me it seems pretty much standard. scart, power and hdmi passthru on the back. and on the front i see HP jack, coaxial, hdmi and buttons. maybe i miss something? 18:09
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
I added some RCA jacks on the side for easier connection of composite video devices and I put heatsinks on the ICs (drilled crude venting holes, too). There’s a video about the mods in the making.
@lordmuaddib
5 жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta cool!
Leg dir mal nen günstigen Ultraschallreiniger zu. Für Tastenkappen und so das gründlichste und bequemste, was man haben kann!
It will make a fine BBS server, Jan. If you sysop it, I will visit. :D
Looks like you didn't finish it in time... I hope you'll still do it anyway :)
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
Caught a bad cold in the meantime which delayed things unfortunately. The new video is up now. :)
I have 2 amiga500s at the moment stored away..i tend to emulate the amiga on a laptop rather than wearing down original machines.
@JanBeta
6 ай бұрын
Amiga emulation is extremely good these days so that makes perfect sense. I just like to tinker with the hardware too much to enjoy emulation as much (although I do use WinUAE and its derivatives quite a lot).
The box handle is not in the center, I think the inner box should be on the left and the Amiga on the right in the box for the balance.
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
I think they did it because the power supply has a heavy transformer. The balance is pretty good with mouse/transformer/Amiga in the box.
@EdwinNoorlander
5 жыл бұрын
Jan Beta yes your right. I forgot the power supply.
"Fluff! Hehehe..."
There called nut driver's or nut runners in English
Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher...... of Amigas
OFC it was Turrican II!!!!!!!!!!
what? This is the first time I ever see non-socketed CIA chips!
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was surprised, too. At least they seem to work fine so far.
@silkwesir1444
5 жыл бұрын
Riskteven I am pretty sure there already were videos where he took off a chip from a board, added a socket and then the replacement chip into that socket.
@JanBeta
5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the CIA in that Amiga was socketed but the socket didn’t make proper contact so I had to replace it with a new one.
Haven't you got the Y and Z keys the wrong way round?
@thomasweitzel8506
5 жыл бұрын
That is a german keyboard, y is seldomly used here. So the two keys are exchanged.
@thomasweitzel8506
5 жыл бұрын
Or you could say they are the wrong way around on the english keyboard ;-)
@MrTobysDad
5 жыл бұрын
Oh I did wonder if that was the case. @@thomasweitzel8506
If only Atari and Commodore merged in 1996..
@sjarken3979
5 жыл бұрын
That would have been awesome. Commodore and Atari made the best computers ever imo.
@sjarken3979
5 жыл бұрын
@@Okurka. Why are you even here? Shouldn't you be on some shitty nes channel?
Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher :-D
One frustrated Atari ST user disliked this.
@david-spliso1928
5 жыл бұрын
If only Atari and Commodore had merged in 1996..
@CP200S
5 жыл бұрын
@@david-spliso1928 They would have sank together...
@david-spliso1928
5 жыл бұрын
Aw let's be positive .. imagine the possibilities _!_
@CP200S
5 жыл бұрын
@@Riskteven I used to be a musician-wannabe back in the day and I must tell you that I never found any tool for creating music close to the wonder that Protracker 2.3b was on the Amiga. I've created a few modules, but none of them is on Aminet.
@david-spliso1928
5 жыл бұрын
Mod music is good for the demo scene and games but can't cut it for studio quality synth music, which is why the ST was the go to machine for professional musicians because of the included MIDI and incredibly tight timings, which rivals the best of today's offerings.
Your kid write mirror "j" ?
Is it just me .. or is there a creepy weird laugh at kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXWdpdJsY821ptY.html ..