Your reviews are the best I have seen. Very thorough. And most importantly you are one of the very few in UK that has in-depth reviews of your tools. Keep them going and great excuse to buy some more tools so you can do more reviews 😉

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

Ta very much. Its good to know that people are finding them useful and informative.

@peter-raymondsmith7505

3 жыл бұрын

I must say I am impressed with your more than comprehensive run down on this machine and I have learnt quite a deal especially in regard to the aluminium beds as opposed to cast iron, thank you sir..

Excellent in depth review as always Matt, thankyou for sharing.

A thorough, honest and most useful review. Many thanks.

Excellent review. The best I've seen for any piece of woodworking equipment on YT. Well done and thank you. Subbed!

The exact type of review i always hope there are for tools! Thanks!

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I hope it proved useful 👍

one of few worthwhile reviews!!!!! Greetings from Germany!

Very thorough & straightforward honest review spot on well done

It's great to see reviews of machines that are available where I live and are in a price bracket that I might be able to afford (one day). Keep it up mate. Love it.

Excellent review. Looking forward to more. I was just about to purchase the this model, but I’m now looking further afield.

Very detailed review. You confirmed my suspisions about aluminium beds.

Thank you Matt, very helpful, honest and low key practical review. I have my own issue with Record and echo your frustration with what could so easily be significantly better. Record is a good brand, but it could be a great brand.

Honest professional review You earned I subscribe

Thanks for the review, really interesting. Particularly useful that you spoke about what scale the machine was really capable of dealing with, I hadn't heard anyone talk about this before beyond the usual keeping to within the length of the infeed/outfeed table.

Really enjoying the channel, lots of great information for a beginner like myself wondering what are the things to look for in tools. Particularly like the relaxed style and dulcet northern tones. Look forward to more.

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

Ta very much.

Very informative..and useful. Many thanks

Rag n brown brown recommended your Chanel. This is the first of your films I’ve watched. I am very impressed with your review, not that I am an expert but I do watch a lot of reviews and yours is very good. I need to get out more 😛

i found the rview very helpful .i am in the market to buying a thicknesser/planer and a lot of matthews comments were some i had not come across which has been a big help in deciding which type of machine i will end up buying some other reviews left me a bit confused thanks matthew

Great review. I'm just looking at a second hand Axminster Perform PT260 (same machine), so this was most useful thanks.

Hi Matthew, thank for a such a detailed and honest review of this planer thicknesser. I was considering this machine, but you've persuaded me to go for something better. The Axminster AC250 is on my radar. It has cast iron beds and seems to be a much better proposition. All the best, Mark

Excellent review - thanks

Great review 👍🏻

Very good review pal, do more. 👍

Great video Matt, you cover a good number of issues that many other reviews haven't touched on. I bought a second hand Metabo HC260C which, apart from the blade guard, is very similar to your machine. It was cheap enough but I soon discovered that the infeed and outfeed rollers were worn and the plastic bearings that they run in were in very bad shape. Looking inside the bores of the bearings it's clear that the roller tensioning bolts (the ones you mentioned as being tricky to adjust) had been over-tightened and the bearing surfaces were badly deformed so that it was very hard to rotate the rollers. I am glad I found this out and was grateful to discover that spares are easy to get online (for the Metabo at least - I feel certain that spares for the other brands of this machine are similarly easy to find). Two new rollers and 4 bearings cost me just over £100.

Thanks very helpful in making my mind up!

Great video, thank you very much

Great review. Had one of these since May 2015 and would go for something slightly better with cast iron tables if buying another. You have highlighted all the niggles I have experienced with mine.

After watching this I think ill be stretching for axminster or jet, great review.

Great video! Record Power is likely not available here the U.S. but regardless, the information and logic analysis was excellent and is universal. Keep making videos and keep up the good work!

Informative. Thank you.

Thanks for a very useful review. I have been looking at purchasing a planer thicknesser for a couple of years now and the 'niggles' that you mention have always put me off the RP PT260, which as you say might be something one can live with a £500 or below, but certainly not at £800 plus.

Looks exactly the same as my elektra beckum hc260 (later rebadged metabo). I've always found it to be reliable, well made and good value for money aside from the points you mention. I haven't checked my tables for warp since getting it, so I need to do that. Thanks for a great video

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

I think that they are exactly the same machine. As you say, they are generally reliable and for smaller scale work absolutely perfect. I suppose I'm just getting a bit tired of the faffing about due to the lack of relative ease of adjustment. That and I think that they are ridiculously over priced new these days.

Thanks for the review. Was thinking about purchasing pt 310. Not so sure now

Thanks. Great review, looking to buy a machine sometime next year.

Thanks Matthew, great video. Was looking at the Metabo HC260 more for space reasons rather than budget but your video has me thinking i should go with a heavier unit with cast iron tables. Or just stick with what I'm doing at the moment which is hand plane one face, dimension on bandsaw and hand plane parallel and joint on the router table. Takes a lot longer though!

Honest and great review, I scraped one of those cheap desktop P/T and got a DW733 Thicknesser mainly because of space issues. I agree about your comments about value for money and the next step up. Whilst Your experience with RP customer services was sh*te my was brill with a Ebay purchased new DML 320 lathe when it was 12old and out of the 6 month warranty, they sent me a Speed Controller FOC for me to change...but £1a bolt is pretty poor. You really do deserve more than 131 subscribers Matthew..... Cheers Paul

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I hear mixed things about record. Some people have had great experience of their customer service and some terrible. I suppose its because they are still a smallish company and it depends who you speak to on a given day. Thanks for the comment about the channel too. Its still new and only a few long form videos at the minute but it is steadily growing. Its nice to know though that my dulcet northern tones haven't put everyone off.

Excellent video. I have just purchased a used Record 260 and hope it serves me as well as yours has.

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

If its all in working order, its an excellent buy used.

I totally agree cast iron is the way to go. For £800 I would expect that. I have found triton tools the same keeping you hanging on the customer service. Great review 👍

Hi Matthew, thanks for the detailed and honest Review. I had pretty much the same issues with the tensioning bolts. I'm still working on it. It sucks! Can you tell me how you solved the problem? Many greats from Germany. Erten

Thanks for the review Matt, due to space I wouldn't get this machine and it seems like a rip-off at 800 quid, I actually saved up and got a jet drum sander 16/32 and I couldn't be happier, combined with a cheap lunchbox type thicknesser and a tracksaw I'm able to accurately dimension timber. It would have processed your bench components easily, and it's able to flatten panels up to 32 inch wide. It also takes up a much smaller footprint in the shop. Highly recommended. Thanks for the charnwood saw review as well, if only my workshop was bigger...

Finally an honest review of this machine. Thank you. I have only been interesting in woodworking for a relatively short time and bought the pt260 for £799.99 in April 2019 :( I have had pretty much the same issues as you. I spoke to record today and was told to watch videos on KZread to see how to set it up. When I said I couldn't get consistent flat results, they said "well how flat do you want it?" So I guess they know the limitations of this model. Sorry for the rant. Loved the content, keep it up. I wish I had seen your video a year ago. Subscribed and liked

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

This has been my experience with Record Power too. They tried to charge me £1 plus p&p per bolt for the little m6x10 blade retaining bolts. Got a box of 200 from screwfix for a couple of quid instead.

thank you for the video. can you please do a recup ad write us the cons and pros?

good video mate, I have the Axminster Perform CCNPT planer, got it new about 15 years ago use it for small bits when i dont want to turn on the big planer. great machine when set up correctly. fence is awful though. one point i noticed at 20 minutes in i notice you out feed table is not parallel with the in feed table. have a look at this and use a 6/8 foot straight edge to make them parallel and use 3 3 foot straight edges as winding sticks to remove twist from the tables. on a related note you mention the in feed is not adjustable its not supposed to be. there are a lot of much more expensive planers such as the old wadkins that had fixed in feed as it is much better than having an adjustable in feed. Best way to set up this planer is to 1) bring the in feed in line with the blades 2) use winding sticks (straight edges) to remove twist from the tables 3) use straight edge to make both tables parallel 4) double check with winding sticks to make sure it didn't move

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

I get that in feed tables are generally not adjustable, but the point I was getting at is neither is the cutter block. One of these needs to be. If you are using it just to plane and not thickness, you can adjust the knives to the infeed table, but if you do this and the infeed isn't parallel to the cutter block, doing this will put the thicknessing out of parallel, so either the infeed or the cutter block should be adjustable. Neither are on this machine. And we'll spotted with the outfeed table. It's not out by much but it is out. It's a work in progress though as the actual table is no longer flat, so adjusting out the twist is a compromise. Although, if your looking at the fence as a reference, don't. It sits above the outfeed and there is a perspective issue with the camera occurring at 20 minutes in. Basically, the outfeed table has a cup in it of about 0.5 mm, but it isn't even. When I have 3 corners level, the far left corner sits about 0.2 mm low. Adjusting this out moves at least one of the other corners.

Thank you for your very useful and thorough review of this tool. I was considering buying one of these but now I probably won't. There is a Metabo version that looks very similar but is priced around £600 so perhaps it is better value, but will have similar issues I guess.

@paulwestlake4278

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like the same machine. See Badger Workshops review

Thank you. Don’t think I will purchase this model now

Thanks for that. I've got a Record sander, lathe, bandsaw and grinder and I'm happy enough with them all. But based on this video, I won't be buying their planer-thicknesser.

A great balanced and clearly unbiased review. The level of detail was just the job. It was good to see the negative, as well as the positive, were each given the appropriate measure. As I make garden furniture for friends and family I generally work with 2-metre lengths and whilst absolute accuracy is not essential it's nice to have things flat and square. In view of this what would you suggest is the best planer-thicknesser for working with such lengths?

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

Something with cast iron beds as long as long as possible. But that depends on the level of accuracy you're after.

@skember1

3 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewSmall Thanks for coming back to me so quickly. Garden furniture machining accuracy isn't mission-critical but its good to be there or thereabout for nice and accurate mortice and tenon jointing. As I generally use 2 or 2.5-metre recuperated wood for the uprights and much else it seems to me that I need a good size planer base. So, is it best to buy a long table planer thicknesser [if so which one] or to use extension pieces or not? I have seen some Fielder extension units but getting them true and flat with the infeed seems an issue of concern. Other issues come down to price, I guess. Should I go for 2 or 3 blades or maybe a spiral cutter, which seems expensive but looks a great solution. The problem is I just don't know which way to go, new or second hand [but there doesn't seem to be much on the market], Axminster, or Charnwood or Leman, or, or! So cutting to the quip as I am relatively new to buying more sophisticated woodworking tools and have only limited funds I'd appreciate a firm steer as there seem to be so, so many options. In short, I simply need you to complete the following sentence: 'Stephen buy a...............'

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

@@skember1 that is a difficult question to answer. Realistically for stuff that size, you would want 2 metre beds, but you don't get two metre beds on combination machines unless you look at industrial scale machines. A separate planer and thicknesser could be an option if you could find them. The two most sensible options are something like an Axminster trade 12 inch planer thicknesser if budget allows (a 3 knife version or spiral cutter. .. Both would work just fine) along with infeed and outfeed roller stands, or... A number 8 hand plane. Without spending a fortune, at that scale, the best you are likely to get is 'pretty straight and pretty flat'. My planing bed is a metre long. Planing stock a metre and a half or more results in almost straight and almost flat.

Hi Mathew where did you get that ruler from as i cant find it and would like one

When I check it out now, it says it comes with iron-cast top. Would you recon it's worth it with this improvement alone?

Give or take the odd tiny tweak, this looks almost identical to my Metabo HC260. I find the fence does move though if you push too firmly against it. I note you pushed against it fairly close to the mounting, whereas if you had nudged it further along the unsupported part of the fence, I think it might have moved a little. Thanks.

Does anyone know why this machine might not be turning on in Planer mode. The sensor is engaged underneath the in feed table, am I missing something else?

Thanks for the review. It's put me off buying one I think. Even if it was second hand at the £500 mark, I think I'd still be wishing I'd spent a bit more and got something like the Axminster Craft AC250PT.

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on what you're going to do with it. For furniture sized stuff, it works well and is a very solid machine. It is a faff switching it over between planing and thicknessing though. Even if you could put up with that, you would still be better served with a more modern design like the Axminster Craft or the Charnwood as this now is simply too expensive to be worth it. At those prices though, Record do their own version which is supposed to be excellent. For bigger work, this really isn't suitable.

top review mate, new sub here, im glad a ran across this review as im look for a jointer now ( only have about £600-£750 for one ) but going to give this one a miss, any suggetions anyone?? cheers lads.

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

For me, if I had that budget and knowing what I know now, I would be looking at the sacond hand market for something with longer, cast iron beds.

Hopefully (since this vid is two years old) you have learned to keep pushing down on the outfeed side not the infeed side that should clear up the issues you are having. Start pushing it through on the infeed but as soon as there is enough on the outfeed only push down there. Hope this helps

Can I ask why you don’t run it against your fence to keep it straight as it was wiggling all over

My record planer thicknesser froze today the power is going to it the blades just aren't turning does any one have any idea of the problem

This is nearly a 100% copy of good old Elektra Beckum Hc260, from Germany in the seventies/eighties! Now sold by Metabo, still as HC 260. In Germany the old Elektra Beckum from '80 are hunted like crazy and were sold about 600€...

Looks like the Metabo to me which can be bought for around £560

Axminsters has just gone up to 1299!

@Rwecosher

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to buy the Metabo HC260 due to the Axminster increase. Not so sure now. The point of buying something good is to get away from all the niggles. Still, an increase of £300 since the Axministers last list price is a piss take.

If you can afford it I would suggest having a seperate thicknesser rather than trying to use cheap 2 in 1 systems. If you are only planing small wood Proxxon has a small surface planner.

@MatthewSmall

3 жыл бұрын

That's the problem, I'm not planing small stock and this wasn't particularly cheap. I also don't have the space for separate machines. When I move and upgrade, I'll be looking at something bigger though, maybe in the Axminster trade range or, if I have the money, Felder.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewSmall My comment was more general and probably poorly worded. I can see you run larger stock. Your machine is probably good enough. I am not sure what your production needs are either as in how much you need to plane and what your output needs to be. It is just when people have two seperate cheaper machines they can run far more without having to fiddle and play around. All of this depends on needs and what a person can afford and use in their space. I think for many small furniture makers a Proxxon and separate thicknesser would do the job not for making tables 20 feet long though. I have several felder machines and would highly recommend them as they can massively increase output and quality.

Mmm, a little on the expensive side without its failings..

Excellent review. This machine has some good features and when you are hobbist might be Ok. But for the precise work it is not suitable (eg issues with 90 degree). I would not buy it again.

Hi Matt, thanks for the great review. I also enjoyed your review of your Charnwood table saw. However, I think if you want to grow this channel significantly you might need to move away from this sort of detailed content. I think this content is very interesting but probably to a smaller audience than some quicker paced build videos out there. My sister has a baking blog and she had to find a balance between detailed step by step instructions for the smaller number of people who will actually copy her bakes and the much larger number of people who just like looking at pictures/video of nice food.