Men, we need to understand one thing.. Marriage is a place of service for us, it is not a place to just receive. We spend our days sowing into our wives and children, cultivating into their lives and we reap the benefits in the long run. If you marry thinking u will receive something, that's not the right attitude. Marry to serve, to give and to sacrifice. Boss, marriage is not a holiday for men, its a lifelong purposeful project. Having said that, only men who are content in themselves, men who have clear direction and purpose, men who are mature, should marry. A wife will never satisfy you on the inside, that empty space u have on the inside is for your father and God to fill. Don't put it on your wife

@sharronlouis1228

5 жыл бұрын

Very true

@carolynthinji9968

5 жыл бұрын

true true, i find it unfair and selfish to expect someone else to make me happy.

@nathankibet9682

5 жыл бұрын

Very true...there is no short cuts...if you get into a relationship and marriage there is no quits until there is infidelity that breaks a marriage as the Bible says

@msbling9

5 жыл бұрын

Bosssss👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@dBarryTV1

5 жыл бұрын

Well said, yet what's to the woman to grow from what the man gives?

This conversation is proof of concept that things dont always go wrong, they start wrong. I know most single people in their thirties and late twenties have the pressure to get married and fit in but my people, live your life, love yourself, invest in yourself, interrogate why you need to get married, be true to you, committed to you and make conscious decisions or you will end up being a divorce statistic. I am happy Amani chose himself and choose to co parent instead of staying caged for the children.

@jannetnyaboke1914

5 жыл бұрын

Truth right there. Its always about the foundation.

@sarahmwangi3221

5 жыл бұрын

This so Timely..Thanks for this great advise

@PhilipineKidulah

5 жыл бұрын

Great advice.

@waceranjoki3442

4 жыл бұрын

Wow thenks for this

@valenteboso3676

4 жыл бұрын

So true going through it right now it starts wrong!!!

There's a divorce program in Nairobi Chapel known as Divorce care where people who've been through a divorce can meet and talk and express themselves freely.

@keymertertriza3705

3 жыл бұрын

Agnetta I need this

@felixmusau1643

Жыл бұрын

This is nice

Men need to be allowed to express themselves..thanks Grace!!

@gakegakeslowly8429

4 жыл бұрын

the problem is that many men at least african men don't like to express their emotions

@blackamericapapi3841

3 жыл бұрын

@@gakegakeslowly8429 it's not that it's because when men open up about they emotion because women will look at us like we weak or soft

@africanqueenmo

3 жыл бұрын

Allowed by who? Men set the rules in society!

@africanqueenmo

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackamericapapi3841 yes because men mock women calling is emotional and weak.

People should stop expecting perfection from church members. Once you are there long enough you will realize that they are just humans prone to make many mistakes so don't expect much just because it's church. Don't leave church because you were hurt. The moment you stop expecting much, the more free you will be. That doesn't mean some church people are not saved. Everyone is at a different maturity level and some show more grace than others, others go to church for their own reasons that are not religious related, even those in leadership.

@wilma1866

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t say it any better!

Marcus your parents have taken many years of growing to come to the point of solving their conflicts differently. A process you were not willing to work through. The right person does not exist on earth, You be the right person. You need to allow yourself to grow

My own mam always tell me that marriage is not a bed of roses and don't go in it with any expectations

I like how Amani is fluent and authentic. Keep soaring higher.. Marcus it feels like you jumped in too fast,wish you new beginnings. Thanks for sharing your deepest

@okiyamolaa8601

5 жыл бұрын

I really feel the same... But I'm really praying for them...

Aww men cry too. My Dad raised three of us on his own.

I’m very sorry to both gentlemen. This must’ve been very difficult. Thank you both for sharing. It’s very eye opening. Helps me understand more. I can never judge. It’s very personal, and what I get is that men should be allowed to feel, but not be stereotyped, or given blanket judgment. You’re both very bold. You have helped many. God bless you abundantly.

Wow! As a DIVORCÉD WOMAN, 17 years later I thank God for my late father! Church failed me 100% both in the US and Kenya! My family shunned me completely, and favored my ex who was ABUSIVE ALL ROUND for 27 years! My kids TOO DEVASTATED! I expected too much from those I HAD INVESTED THE MOST! Marcus and Amani thanks for opening up! VULNERABILITY cares!

@Jenniferakinyi

4 жыл бұрын

It's hard for the children.

This was really eye opening. Not many men talk about their feelings so openly and I believe it this is really helpful to those going through the same.

Thank you Grace for tackling this Divorce topic that other shows avoid! It's too important to be ignored! Well done to the guys for being open xx

At the age of 20 I've learnt a lot about marriage, to the point I've decided am never getting married. I've mastered being happy and peaceful alone and am grateful to the universe.

To Marcus and Amani l say Thank you for talking about this issue. Brave is a word that comes to mind. Thank you.

My take home is "Own your choices". Powerful

Incredible!! Time to speak out. Looking forward to more of these conversations.

Yes divorce process is ugly emotionally draining. So much rejection from friends,society n family somehow. Great talk.

This was articulate, eloquent, and truly applicable to men in this struggle...thank you and God bless.

love is blind Marriage is bliss Divorce is murder Unmarried,single and living happily with a borrowed cat 😍

@sarahmutabazi18

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha 😂😆😆

@lykamlaki7120

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@maryjones3523

4 жыл бұрын

Borrowed cat 😂

@wilma1866

4 жыл бұрын

BORROWED CAT. Say no more! I am open to meeting a good man when the timing is right. But right now, I am content with my life with my 🐕, Princess Diana. I don’t ever envy anyone’s life because that is a waste of energy that could be spent loving my dog and people. I hope all is well in your world. Stay blessed.

@SM-mh1kq

3 жыл бұрын

Borrowed cats , my category 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and trust I'm doing well 😜

Thank you guys for sharing your story. My parents are separated but we’ve never been closer like we’ve been in the last 10 years......

In laws also playing a huge role in breaking marriages. Mothers in law, especially on husband's side are causing divorce by interfering in the marriage and wanting to be given priority over their son's wife and kids. In laws please stick to your lane

@faithfaith4108

5 жыл бұрын

Well put

@user-kpkxgtj

5 жыл бұрын

💯

@Jenniferakinyi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeap

@sarahjustice526

4 жыл бұрын

Wana ujinga

@ekim6023

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget what y’all learned as DIL. Eventually DIL’s become a MIL let’s kill that selfish attitude

Now this is good content... Thank u NTV

No judgment is the best this is an excellent program. They were candid about their emotions which is rare with African men. Great show. They were real

@nancyn175

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

Its called walking 🚶‍♂️ away in peace 🙏 and not in pieces.

Marcus is just fine..You can’t blame him for his life decisions.He sounds like a principled man who does his things a certain/specific way🤷🏾‍♀️

Marriage is for a God ordained purpose and when you are pursuing purpose it's not happiness all the time that's why you have to stick there even when things are tough.When people marry for selfish reasons they get disappointed when those tough moments. The key to marriage is grow together, work together, stick together and have a forgiving heart because there is a lot to forgive each other,alot.Don't come with unrealistic expectations. Marriage works because of two very imperfect people who refuse to give up on each other coz that's what true love is about.Perfect marriages are only found in one's imagination's. Good marriages are not found,they do not come,they are made by two imperfect people who refuse to give up on each other.

@rosembimo

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

@MudachiNix

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are judgmental..what if all you said marriage is..happens to all not be there?

@Angel-xe1xg

3 жыл бұрын

So according to you, people divorce because primarily they got married for "selfish reasons" or refuse to work through the "tough times"?? Come down to the literal practical world and put down your Bible for a minute.

@felixmusau1643

Жыл бұрын

Leave God out of these please,God is interested in our holiness. Marriage is a personal decision

Divorce is worse than death because you will face that person who has died in your heart everyday especially if you have kids together. That's why God said He hates divorce!

@florencezizo

4 жыл бұрын

They resurrect also everywhere.. specially if you have unresolved problems 🙏

@bobimnm7062

4 жыл бұрын

Where did God say that

@stamminahgusto3808

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobimnm7062 According to the Bible the only reason one can divorce is because of infidelity. Nowadays people divorce for selfish reasons.'The grass is greener syndrome' has led so many people in the path of destruction..

@stamminahgusto3808

4 жыл бұрын

@Mukiti M. Yap you aren't supposed to re marry because marriage is a blood covenant recognized in heaven. By re marrying you have automatically committed adultery.

@patriciawairimu6089

4 жыл бұрын

Re-marrying in the Bible is allowed in death of a spouse

Let's just stay bio nyumba Ni supuu,secondly the church members are the worst when it comes to single mothers

While am here praying n fasting for a husband others are divorcing what unfair world we live in

@jamessquare

5 жыл бұрын

Joycefaith, how long you've been fasting and praying?

@joycefaithnjeri6386

5 жыл бұрын

@@jamessquare for a very long time

@jamessquare

5 жыл бұрын

@@joycefaithnjeri6386 I, too, am looking for a wife. Who knows? We may be what each other has been waiting for. Are you on social media?

@rasras9567

4 жыл бұрын

siunipee nafasi

@kenwanyoike

4 жыл бұрын

Imagyn

Grace thankyou i thank God someone finally beat me to the game of creating awareness on this topic loveee you

the best program ever.... men need this

Its better to divorce than to kill or cause permanent damage. Let's b real

@bensonmudogo9755

4 жыл бұрын

Ohh yess

@otienojush6415

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.... It's only noble

@blackamericapapi3841

3 жыл бұрын

Shit I from Atlanta and divorce killed a lot of niggas especially from drug and alcohol overdoses so it's fucked up all around

@beproudofyourself.3876

3 жыл бұрын

Those who kill in marriages have mental issues a normal right person cant kill

Marcus seems like he was not emotionally mature for the reality of marriage, that is why he jumped ship - and seems to blame his ex-partner - when troubles rocked his boat. At no stage of the interview does he take responsibility or accountability for his failed marriage. But anyway, this is his side of the story, and a lesson to all. Marriage takes work, and commitment, and communication. You might idealise others who have been married for many years, and think they have their shit together - but the truth is, we all experience challenges. If you marry someone who is coming from a hurting place, allow them to heal first, or walk with them through their healing process. If not, please don't get married.

Divorce is tough.Thank y' all for sharing your experience!

Talking and sharing is part of healing unfortunately many guys are dying inside. Men, kill these phobia and i bet you will escape depression in large %..

Great conversation. Honest and searching. Kudos

Thanks guys, you are oaks of strength, trusting strange public n opening up, kudos

Oooh yes you must own your choices!! Very powerful

voice abit low.. kudos to tis amazing dude,, speaking about it .. wow it talks courage

I like that you talk about being a catalyst. We should never have gotten married and NEVER had children together. So many red flags I chose to ignore. In my marriage we both were - he who cheated and me who shut down. Do I hate him no? Does he hate me? He continues to share that hatred - in my opinion - not just with me but with our children - in his mind there can only be one right and therefore the other one is wrong! I chose not to fight his thinking. And that has impacted our children. They have been forced to choose - and I chose not to fight their decision because I couldn't afford to financially support my children. He said to them their financial support depended on their loyalty to him. I told my babies to play to that - my relationship with them wouldn't be changed. It has been. i'm their financial failure and yet their emotional and psychological support. Im sorry I failed my babies in that respect, It's more than finance

sometimes the only mistake we make in marriage is 'growing up' and without empathy its very hard to understand the new found 'stranger'.

@thegratenjambinimurungah1219

5 жыл бұрын

This is so very true...

@isabelomolo8853

2 жыл бұрын

Wow....THIS👏🏾👏🏾

This is a Powerful Content..Good job Grace

Any form of separation is painful, divorce is an ugly thing, and as a church member and as a society we can't turn a blind eye to it. We should stand together and encourage ourselves in the Lord to see to it that no one will commit suicide bcs of divorce. Let's show each other Love...it conquers all

Love is blind but marriage restores its sight

My friend Marcus, mau God keep you and restore you

Thank you for speaking out

Your pastor was human and caring

Big up Amani n Marcus. Thnx for sharing..

Incredible insight!!!

Divorce amongst alleged Christians happens because they practice not forgiving one another. Which is scary because the same Bible they profess to follow states that one who doesn't forgive isn't forgiven by God either. Narrow is the path. A little kindness goes a long way.

@angelabuzz2691

5 жыл бұрын

Nyawira Muriuki you can forgive a person n choose to move on.. if someone cheats severally for example you forgive n leave..

@ItsjustSylviaa

5 жыл бұрын

Angela buzz I don't subscribe to that theology. Have a lovely week!

@angelabuzz2691

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't campaign for you to.. i just said forgiveness is usually for yourself whether Christian or not.. so you can forgive someone whether you are a Christian or not n move on..

@ItsjustSylviaa

5 жыл бұрын

k chebet Chebet, first a true believer will not be caught in infidelity or sexual immorality for that matter. Sin is born from carnal desire and something like immorality or even bribing for example takes deliberate thought and decisions. We call ourselves Christians when we're not even trying to live up to the word of God. Secondly, if God forgave you and moved on what would happen to you? Note that both Jesus and Paul said if one does divorce as a believer then they are not to remarry. So are the divorcees believers or not, is the the question. Our definition of forgiveness is horribly corrupted in that regard. Have a lovely week!

@ItsjustSylviaa

5 жыл бұрын

k chebet As I said, I don't subscribe to that theology. The Bible stands as final authority. Good day

Lessons!!! Thanks Grace 💙

While an here praying and fasting God to give me a husband

@dianak.8350

5 жыл бұрын

Gal...same here..maisha..hmmm

@waceranjoki3442

5 жыл бұрын

@@dianak.8350 mungu atuonekanie haki

@katush7959

5 жыл бұрын

Ata mimi mungu ata tuonekania hii mwaka

@perrybenson7188

5 жыл бұрын

Nawaombea stay positive !

@waceranjoki3442

5 жыл бұрын

@@perrybenson7188 thenk you

It seems as though Marcus is not being transparent, he comes across as trying to look like the good guy in this. Amani appears to be more candid. I may be biased, I know Njeri and her family quite well and was so shocked to hear they parted ways.

@dorsyogot6229

5 жыл бұрын

He is not marriagable

@miriammwangi1520

4 жыл бұрын

These guys are just childish

@miriammwangi1520

4 жыл бұрын

Grace dont be lured by those foolish men.

@anonnona6433

4 жыл бұрын

@@miriammwangi1520 🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️

What stood out for me was how the program was ended. With the saying of carrying the load together. I for one have had to deal with depression on my own. Not because I wanted to. But because in the beginning the people I chose to reach out to did not have the best interests for me at heart. And this made the whole process more heart wrenching. Am grateful that I got out of it. But there are people out there dealing with it on their own because they have no where to turn to. So how would you help them out?

This was very insightful ...

Never settle for less in a relationship and marriage, know your self worth!

Thank you for this. Gives me a clear perspective on men's emotions. I always encourage people to be honest with themselves. If you want to get married, do it but if you don't make it clear from the start. Marriage isn't for everyone. Do what works for you. As Caroline Mutoko said, "Things don't go wrong, they start wrong."

I like the conversation...what hurts us is that we as men tend the problems to ourselves....but you can only carry so much...you need some one to give you a shoulder to learn on

You are so graceful Grace

This is beautiful Grace!!

Quite an eye opener!

what an insight......!

Do you guys have a support group for divorcees?

If a man wants his marriage to work it will.. Most of these marriages fail because our men have perfected the art of playing victim.. No one is design to deal with loss or pain..

@joysadalla5526

5 жыл бұрын

it depends

@dBarryTV1

5 жыл бұрын

Or rather we see most cases women playing the victims. Smh

@leonbosire378

5 жыл бұрын

@k chebet I've seen you on more than one conversation here and on both you are biased. I think you missed the whole point of this feature. This is about healing and pain that is indiscriminate both to men and women, not directing fault to either party. So slow your roll.

@q33manthy

5 жыл бұрын

Marriage = Man + Woman. Whatever problems that happen in marriage are a consequence of both parties and not just the man. Also, even if the man wants to work on his marriage and the woman isn't ready, it'll fail. Thus I find it unfair that you seem to suggest the marriages fail because the men are not compromising.

@q33manthy

5 жыл бұрын

@k chebet I totally understand someone not wanting to work on their problems because sometimes you just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I also understand that no one wants to be married to a spouse who cheats. However, I have a problem with her saying men play the victim because that invalidates all the men going through actual problems in their marriages. It also invalidates the psychological turmoil that comes with the break down of the union and the resultant fear that a man experiences when his family life is on the line.

Strong men! I hope they can find true love 💕

@nathankibet9682

5 жыл бұрын

Amen...depression is real

@georgem5698

5 жыл бұрын

There's nothing like true love, this guys should have never gotten married in the first place. Marriage laws are anti male, marriage is a scam & men are waking up to it. Google (1) MGTOW (2) men on strike (3) the marriage strike

@niasworld27

5 жыл бұрын

Well I believe marriage is not for everyone

@ndondiafrika249

4 жыл бұрын

I hope they stop chasing the illusion of marriage....

@mainadicksoni2959

4 жыл бұрын

True

Two brave men...kudos Marcus and Amani..

Wow! Great show.

Genuine, raw and authentic.

I think that truthful conversation should be the case even before you get married. Clear and free communication between the man and woman must begin in courtship and continue throughout marriage. Next, one must be willing to forgive. I think people are going for divorce too quickly.

Work on me.. pray for them! 🙏

Would kindly share the social networks or contact details for this two guys. Am asking for the sake of my Brother and I fear the worst can just happen could they can be of help save my ailing brother. Thanks

Please pray for the men and women still in that situation.

Kudos Amani my former classmate. so glad you are soaring in the industry. so sorry about what you went through. its a difficult journey not that i have been there but i can just imagine!

Its something that messes up kids if they are in the picture as well...

I would rather marry in secret than I marry to please my parents and family by Steve Irungu Jermaine

This is a great program!!

Our problem is cultural- we have been conditioned to a narrative that 'Masculinity' means being strong. Hence men should not show weakness. Men are human, with feelings! It is about time men are 'given permission' to express themselves and this means being able to go to hospital and expressing mental health issues, sexual issues, discussing financial issues and marital issues openly etc without being made to feel that they should 'man up'. Consequently we will lower suicide epidemics, alcohol abuse, save marriages and also nurture the boy child which then enriches communities and generations.. may God heal our generation.

@user-kpkxgtj

5 жыл бұрын

I have a problem with this thinking though. Who is to give men permission to talk about their issues? Guys, GIVE EACH OTHER PERMISSION. Be someone a brother, a colleague, a friend can confide in. With all the times this sentiment comes up one would think it would be obvious by now. Be what you need to each other.

@maxlynlc2718

5 жыл бұрын

It was not meant literally. I was referring to what we perceive as norms in our society as not being ethical. So men should start by giving themselves permission.

@TNJ-gn2gv

5 жыл бұрын

Society IGNORES men, hence they do not express themselves. This is why men are not opening up not because of the sterotype that they have to be strong or show no weakness. If you were being ignored, would you express yourself to those ignoring you??

@maxlynlc2718

5 жыл бұрын

T NJ 6789 No! That's a mind boggling point you have raised. So would you say then that men are lonely in their struggles?

@user-kpkxgtj

5 жыл бұрын

Who is this society though? If we take it that society is at least 50% men, and say for arguement's sake that a solid half of it (the women) is not interested in hearing them out, that leaves a good number of people to potentially talk to - fellow men. I still feel it's their responsibility to make safe spaces for each other to talk and air out their issues. Who better to understand a guy's issue than a fellow guy? Who funny enough is also the one most likely to tell a man who's suffering to man up 😂. A large part of the solution is within themselves.

People get married for surface reasons. I believe we should be taught how to vet properly, how to identify red flags, how to communicate in a relationship etc People are winging it out here and hurting each other.

I have been married for 10 years now, and over the years it has been emotional and physicological torture. I have my flaws so does she, but she doesn't want to help me fix. I have said IT IS OVER more than 4 times but the thought of leaving the kids without their father has kept me home. My wife changed and her weapon is silence. We don't talk, she doesn't respond when i initiate conversations to solve our issues. She says all is ok. But it's not. I want to move on, I want to walk away and start afresh (I don't have a side chick fyi). I dont understand why I have to be with her when she doesn't express her feelings for me. I just feel our marriage is draining me as there is no emotional or physical support that I get. We have been in a sexless relationship for almost six months. I agree with these men, men are hurting in silence. I need help.

@mweusimrembo890

5 жыл бұрын

I wish you well, just share custody of your children! Your wife seems immature.

@missrk6623

5 жыл бұрын

Benson Kama Jr sorry to hear about the dread you are going through...to be honest marriages are in a mess and it takes two to tangle,and in this case she is not willing .Perhaps you could engage parents before making a crucial decision....Be strong

@cherylokeyo

5 жыл бұрын

That's the first step...recognising there is a problem. I pray that the days and weeks that follow it will be clearer what you need to do next. Hugs and prayers....

@euniceomolo1502

5 жыл бұрын

Benson, pole sana, but you need to Pray, God will guide you plus also get help/counseling for both of you.Please try citam they have free counseling.

@margaretkamau3095

5 жыл бұрын

Please try mutual dialogue & seek counselling ,got divorced but after 12 years both of us have realised we didn't give it a thought about our decision,we are both in regrets though we have moved on ,its so unfortunate but wish there was that chance .

Nice...sound person "wewe!"

One of these men is clearly threatened by a wife’s right to express displeasure when/how she needs to (excluding violence of course) and with the right to expect her man to try to understand her too. But she needed a grown MAN for that. Funny he talks about “courage“ near the end. Total contradiction. He likely did her a favor by leaving.

hm not yet married i learnt alot from this conversation....hmh!well said

Great show.

Olang's cute smile....​

Beautiful show.

I am Currently in a failing marriage, i have tried to no avail to rescue it. We just separated a few days ago, men the sh***t hurts! Worse am holed up in Europe with no support systems. On friday the 24th am being admitted in hospital for depression! What is life.

@jacquelinemuthoni2569

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry, I hope you make it through the depression. Prayers your way🙏🏾

@maureennganga7161

4 жыл бұрын

@stephen Okumu truly sorry to hear that. And i pray that you are healed. I know its been a year. Refuse to be a victim of failure and accept that yes things might have not gone the way your imagined them but as long as you have life, you have a room to change everything to the way you imagined them

@Muthonie

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Stephen, May God The Lord bless thee, and keep you, The Lord make his face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you: The Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace. I may not understand what you are going through but I would like to wish you blessings to help you get through it

@dellxp1742

4 жыл бұрын

Jatelo, Alemonu gi jaber mondo Nyasaye Otelnu

@princebethu368

2 жыл бұрын

I will never marry.

The only happiness is in Christ. I'm praying to raise a good Christian family one day 🙏🏽

Two things causing these divorces, decline in our morals amongst our young men and women. Married women want to be controlling due to insecurity juu ya mpango wa kando culture and men cannot be trusted. Recipe for disaster. Add in laws to that and an inferno is created.

As much as devorce is bad, it's better than wait and kill your spouce.

@shijay4165

4 жыл бұрын

🙏Amen..

@edinahokoba7720

4 жыл бұрын

This are two different things Batuli

Marriage is a dying institution. Women have been fed this idyllic notion about marriage when the opposite is true.

@donwade9800

5 жыл бұрын

This is a strange point to come to when it's the men in this video who have unrealistic perspectives on marriage

Waaa very sobering and difficult journey... Children are the most affected thru the whole ordeal...

I like the conversation

Powerful.

Marriage is fragile and it needs the participants to understand its fragility and to be interdependent. This current generation seems not to understand this. Either because of being raised in dysfunctional marriages and therefore dysfunctional families or being raised in a single unit family.

Ok but like can we just appreciate Leapnotch for making us smile everyday

No marriage = No Divorce. Problem solved!

@clickprofileimage

5 жыл бұрын

Lol! You're right.

@georgem5698

5 жыл бұрын

@q33manthy, you're smart. I've been saying the same thing all my life. I'll never give that much power to a woman to ruin me using the law never. Bachelor 4 life.

@q33manthy

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly @@georgem5698. Especially now when most civil courts are likely to side with the woman when it comes to the kids and alimony. Acha nikae single.

@georgem5698

5 жыл бұрын

@@q33manthy, like I said, you know what's up. I hv an uncle who has been paying ALIMONY to his ex wife for more than 30yrs now. He's a doctor & so is she ( they met in campus), he still practices & so does she, all their kids are grown ( so the child support ended, fortunately) & hv left home, yet still he has to support an adult (ex wife) till today, who brutalized him leading to the divorce on top of all that he lost 100% of his property to his ex I.e (45 acres of very prime land), he was not even left with a 1/4 acre, where's the justice? this is EVIL. Fortunately, he is hard working & he has managed to rebuild himself once again but never remarried. STAY SINGLE.

@q33manthy

5 жыл бұрын

@@georgem5698 sad to hear about what your Uncle went through. I'm glad he moved on and got his life in order again. I doubt he'll ever remarry after having gone through all that.

Are you guys still single? (Asking for a friend). Lakini, gym inaeza saidia kidogo, yo'll are handsome though.

@cikumainone

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. These men are so good looking but would look even better if they hit the gym.

@kipepeo75

5 жыл бұрын

Actually one of them was my former classmate! if they had not put up his name, I would not have recognized him. I'd be like, mmmh he looks familiar

The church in Kenya it's hypocrisy I would rather go to clubs etc than I go to church by Steve Irungu Jermaine

Yes you cannot change your partner....but if their actions and behaviors is causing you pain, and he or she loves you. they will change