Real Road Test: Panhard's Last Gasp - the 24. I loved it! (despite breakdowns...)
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Best wipers ever! But that aside, the engineering prowess within the Panhard 24 is absolutely incredible. Play HubNut Bingo by having a drink every time I say "remarkable" or "extraordinary." Please drink responsibly... A frothy aircooled 848cc flat twin produces 50bhp and makes for a very entertaining drive in this, the final Panhard. Find the club at: www.panhardclub.co.uk/
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I love Panhard - the only company that made Citroen look normal......
Hi Hub Nut, from Sydney, Australia, when I was a kid in the 60's one of my mates was the son of a French diplomat, his mum had a brand new one of these, but it was the later one with the disc brakes & the longer wheelbase and proper size rear seat area in pale lemon yellow with a black & grey interior , it looked very smart , sounded really kool & everyone wanted to know what it was . Claudine used to "flog" it really hard and give it maximum revs before changing a gear, she was seriously adept driving it , his dad had a DS21 Citroen. Hearing the sound of it was like going back in time to being a 9 year old again , and not a 66 year old as I now am. So Hub Nut keep finding these terrific period pieces. As the soundless boring plasticky Ev's are coming
@gregharvie3896
Жыл бұрын
So "-Hub Nut-" I have kept 4 classics and have no modern car now. My favorite weapon of choice is my (prior to me) one owner and in 2012 50,000mile 1967 Jaguar mk10/420G it's an ultra-high output factory car with bronze head & tuned that's how its doctor owner ordered it, with the aussie Jaguar neva-rus galvanized steel sports exhaust, Jaguar factory heavy duty suspension with factory Koni gas shock absorbers. It's in mechanical time warp condition, as is the beautiful deep maroon ox-blood leather, an extra cost option as it's wet dyed thicker but softer leather in 1960's money this was $500 more, that would be like $5 thousand more now!! I love the sound of the exhaust drone in sustained second gear it is evil, stunning & masterful all in one splendid sound. A year into my ownership I fitted it with electronic ignition had it tuned & dyno tested to be perfect & the printout was 350 horsepower, with its factory suspension handling package and cream paint this really, truly is a BIG cat in sheep's clothing, looks very tame but has serious punch and handling to match, as those Koni gas shocks KILL any wallow, stiffen the whole car like a modern sports car suspension setting wiping out any lean in cornering too.
@tonyduncan9852
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Cheers. Those were the days.
I totally loved your video. I own a Panhard 24 BT since 2001. It is black, with red upholstery, and completely original. Never had real trouble with it. I did not hear you mention the names of the guys who did this outstanding design. Here they are: Louis Bionier (1898-1973) and René Ducassou-Péhau (1927-2006).
@yacinek.r.o7846
Ай бұрын
okey now i wanna see it!
What I love about these is just how modern they look. You could add a few minor modern styling features, throw an EV sled underneath it and wouldn’t look out of place as a brand new car
You cannot argue that those back light clusters are an incredibly futuristic design ..arguably 80s
@jamesdecross1035
Жыл бұрын
Arguably 1930s… the architectural modernism of the ocean liner. A delight.
@coops206
Жыл бұрын
Similar style used on the Jaguar F-type
@deadkemper
Жыл бұрын
@@coops206 bingo
@the123king
Жыл бұрын
I think the design reeks of the 1970's. I think that we can all agree that this thing doesn't look like early 60's design.
@richlee509
Жыл бұрын
I always thought they were bmws lol
I really enjoyed this road test, what a fantastic machine! I spent a stint in the research dept at Rover in the 70s and they had a Panhard Dyna in there. they were looking at the construction of the aluminium body. It was a 4 door and one rear door was steel. Presumably a service replacement. All the best, Mart in Solihull.
@channex8179
Жыл бұрын
French car design was at its best during the 70s it's sad that they seem to have lost it now.
@42anyd
Жыл бұрын
That alloy Dyna from Rover is still around and as yet not reassembled
@raymondo162
Жыл бұрын
@@42anyd ................ be ready for yah nex friday mate
I could admire the styling all day long. What an oddball beauty! I've only seen a Panhard once. Probably they were never popular in Finland, if officially imported at all.
@Ragnar8504
Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've seen more than one Panhard in my entire life so they're quite rare in Austria too. That was a PL 17 MK1 two-door I saw in 2006 at a 1950s retro show. Back then I'd have sworn that was a two-stroke engine because of the sound and the tinge of blue smoke.
@jimmyj1969
Жыл бұрын
They were not a common sight anywhere, I guess, but I remember a few in Greece in late '80s - early '90s, when the country was still a vintage cars heaven...
@calbackk
Жыл бұрын
Maybe not popular, but not unusual. I (born -55 in the Kokkola-area) remember them well.
@Rom3_29
Жыл бұрын
I have to look up old 1950-60s Finnish Car magazine (Tekniikan Maailma) maybe there’s test drive.
My 24BT (longer wheelbase with the 60hp engine) that I got early this year has been very reliable I have to say. But it did need an engine rebuild to get there. It's a blast to drive!
With how rare that car is, I'd be scared to drive it Nicely done Ian 👏
My father bought a Panhard in San Francisco in 1955-56. Amazing vehicle- lightweight aluminum body, Alfin brakes, surprisingly fierce 2-cylinder engine, etc…
One of my favourite things to behold, Panhards. Always ahead of their time in design
What a beautiful looking car, we sure have lost the ability to make stunning looking cars. Great review Mr H, thank you.
😮WOW! 😮I didn't expect that at all: a Panhard 24 ct! My favourite car of all times! Thank you so much - Ian and owner of this green beast - for showing it to us. I own several Panhard models, books, postcards, a Panhard keyring and the dream to drive a 24 bt or ct or a PL17 one day. 👍😃👍
Gorgeous colour, and you can see where Citroen got a few design ideas! Very nice, a real collectors item.👍
I have been waiting for this one. When I was around 8, a friend of mine’s father had a 24 bt. He had various French cars around the property. I remember a trip to North Berwick in the Panhard and thought it was sensational. It was the later disc brake version in a lovely bronze metallic. A bit agricultural at low speeds but very smooth at high speed. When one considers this car came out out in 1963, it looks so advanced . They also appeared in some lovely colours. I have an article from Autocar Oct 1991 and I think this may be the car featured in it. The trouble was the car was too expensive in Britain and cost nearly E Type money. Sad that Citroen killed off the brand.
What a stunning little car, the design is just utterly gorgeous and it's a classic I would love to own. I will admit that I'd heard of Panhard Cars but had no knowledge of this one so thanks Ian for adding another car to the list of my 3 car garage to make the decision even harder lol
When we were on holiday France near the town of Plougenast, we stayed in a converted farm. The English owners had several cars and hidden in a barn was a Panhard in red. It was in very good condition but was missing its engine and hadn't run for 7 years and he was afraid that it wouldn't run again due to parts/time/money. A shame really, cars like this need to be driven and admired!
@HarborLockRoad
Жыл бұрын
Add a subaru front boxer, and go hunting porsches! 👍
Just totally amazing and beautiful, and that engine sounds absolutely delightful, this is a car that cannot be criticised whatsoever.
I saw these once when an old man came to pick up a dog at our house. I remember the crazy dog sitting on the seat as he and the old man drove away. Great looking car and way ahead of it's time.
Thanks for this - I’ve been intrigued by the last Panhard for sometime now, but have never seen such an in-depth road test of one until now. A very, very interesting, and beautiful car!
In the early Noughties I used to know an English guy who lived on a canal boat in the south of France. He had two Panhards parked on the bank nearby. I believe at least one of them was a runner. I loved the look of them and I am glad now to know some of the back-story and that HubNut is so enthusiastic about them.
@olik136
Жыл бұрын
that sounds like a real life Duncan MacLeod.. Didn't he live on a house boat in Paris- driving a Citroen DS in the 90s TV series?
@SubTroppo
Жыл бұрын
@@olik136 That name or series is not on my "radar".
Always been very intrigued by the design of this car - you can see one in the background of almost every video on Jay Leno's channel (he has one in his garage). The interior and exterior design are astonishingly ahead of their time. So much intelligence in the design and layout.
Well done, time these had a bit more recognition. DS got all the praise for being ahead of its time but Panhard was ahead of everyone. First one I saw was in France on a holiday trip to Spain in 1964 and I was hooked.
As a 24CT owner (one of only two in the southern hemisphere I believe), I can't fault the research. Well done.
Purely by chance, I've just had a guided tour of this car by the Owner. What a lovely car with some unique engineering built into it's design. Thank you, John. It was a pleasure learning all about this car from yourself.
@dalethomas360
11 ай бұрын
Forgot to say, Hubnut. Have now got a new channel to subscribe to, after being directed to you. Loving the content 👍
This is a very special car, never expected to see it in the UK, you are lucky Ian. I have seen a number of Panhards racing during the Classic 24h of Le Mans in recent years.
Panhard will always be my favourite car ever, thanks for making review,you have brilliant sense for cars indeed.
One of the most amazing cars ever made, such a remarkable design! Wow. Beautiful.
I have to say the body styling reminds me of so many other cars, NSU springs to mind and for some odd reason, even an SM, it's none the less gorgeous for it though. What a fabulous machine, glad you got to share it with us.
@kw9849
Жыл бұрын
The Corvair had a very heavy influence on the styling of the NSU, Panhard, BMW 2002, and a few others.
@niallsommerville9941
Жыл бұрын
@@kw9849 Thank you, that was my mental thread, just couldn't remember the names
One of my “bucket list” cars - so efficient due to its advanced design. Handsome and aerodynamic, too - as you said, one can see it’s influence on Citroen’s DS facelift and subsequent models. Just wonderful!
I think that is one of the most beautiful car designs I ever seen. Absolutely gorgeous and deliciously French.
Ian what a beautiful looking car for 1963 absolutely amazing 👏 😍 👌 🙌 ❤
What a beautiful car to look at and drive. Thoroughly modern in design. Glad for the ride along.
Great road test Ian. Always impressed by the amount of research you do on each vehicle. Keep up the good work.
What a fantastic car! The styling has elements that are lightyears ahead of its contemporaries.
Yes this Panhard has some looks of the 1990s Subaru Coupe you recently tested! Both superlative cars. But I would kill for such a 24CT!
Thank you John, from me too! Fabulous car and we all got to hear it rev!
Don't know what it is but something tells me that you absolutely loved this Panhard. I'd take a guess you'd be beyond happy to have one in the Fleet. Very impressive spec and engineering.
Well done Ian, great video and your enthusiasm really came across. Great car too; just think what was on offer in the UK at the same time. Seriously good stuff. Thank you
In France there are still Citroën dealerships/garages (especially in rural areas) that welcome Panhard cars and help the owners to maintain and preserve them.
What an amazing car Ian. I think I love it almost as much as you do. Thanks for a great video.
Great find and congrats on one of your most enthusiastic and elated reviews! The Panhard 24 is one of the weirdest and most beautiful cars ever, I completely agree with you and am just as smitten with it.
I don't know which is cooler: that gorgeous car, or that gorgeous color!
What a fantastic car. It brings back so many memories of my holidays in France in the 60's. The two cars I remember most were the Panhard and the ami8. Bearing in mind we were traveling in a converted Morris post office van called Fred these French cars looked so modern. Thank you Hubnut for a wonderful video.
Back to the future with Panhard! Love it. More french than a frenchman. Thanks for sharing this with us. 💖💖💖💖💖
I really enjoyed that. What a great video. As a small boy when this was around, I was fascinated by its chic styling and, as you say, the utter Frenchness of it. In those days when you travelled in France it was an intoxicatingly different experience - everything was excitingly 'other'. The Panhard and many other French cars of the time embodied that distinctly French view of the world.
Beautiful! And I love the fact that you are doing the intro broken down at the side of the street. Absolutely adds to the charm. 👍
Always loved this car. Very glad you got a chance to drive it
My Peugeot e2008 actually features a Panhard Rod in its rear suspension to improve lateral stability. Panhard knew what they were doing and a lot of what they did is still valid today.
Never knew these existed. What a beautiful car in a beautiful colour. That was a joy to watch. Thank you!
What an absolute stunner! Never seen one close up before, and knew absolutely zilch about them either. The dashboard is so modern, and the general overall design features too. Lovely.
I remember seeing one of these Panhards being restored in Portugal. A very distinctive machine.
Wonderfull video Ian ! I've never see one of these, and this road test was phenomenal. What a cracking little car.! It should have been a world beater for a small coupe.!
So great to see you enjoy it! I agree, Panhard was crazier than Citroen was. As an example: the B switch under the steering wheel is for a battery disconnect; you need that as the Panhard has no electrical fuses whatsoever. If something goes bad just stop and pull that battery switch. The gears are hard to find as it is a cable-operated linkage that runs in a U shape underneath the driver's side, they needed that to keep the entire flat floor. Panhard military division ended up in Renault Defense, then into the Volvo Group, and around 2018 stopped existing (now just a department in the Volvo group). I really love driving my 24BT (drum brakes) which drives like a classic sportscar but without the risk of oversteering. And it is still comfortable. The engine likes to be put at work.
@billg7205
Жыл бұрын
I assume the battery disconnect is a high current relay switch? I would imagine owners have fitted some of the harnessing with fusing, in the modern day.
@marcelromijn2227
Жыл бұрын
@@billg7205 Actually the switch operates a steelcable that pulls on a big (high current) switch right at the battery terminal. Fuses are indeed a popular upgrade.
@peterduxbury927
2 ай бұрын
No Fuses? Then I would be compelled to (at least) fit a 25A on just the +ve Terminal of the Battery, since everything is fed from there.
What a fascinating road test Ian, I am a lifelong Citroen fan (and 2cv owner) so this test was just the best. Many thanks.
Outstanding job making the best of a bad situation. Didn’t miss a beat doing a roadside review of a broken car while traffic wizzed by. Hats off to you for that one. I’ve seen these cars before but never a driving review. Looks like an absolute hoot to drive
I've wanted one of these since I saw one in a car magazine as a kid in the early 1980s. Really enjoyed this, Ian, thank you :-)
Great video, superb car, love the soundtrack and swooping lines around the sides and bootlid. Spot on 👍👍
for the four-door, Panhard's advert motto was "130 km/h, 600cc, 6L/100 km, 6 seats". A marvel! (Two decades later, my Citroen Visa came close, but not quite -- 650cc, 125 km/h, 7L, 5 seats... but it was good enough to be one of the most enjoyable cars I ever had).
Massively brilliant, style and engineering. So French so Hubnut. These road tests, when you get to drive a dream car, are the best. And we get to share your delight in driving.
What an amazing thing, such style & quirky engineering. Contemplating the incongruously peaky little engine, with air cooling & a roller-bearing crankshaft I can't help thinking that Soichiro Honda would have approved.
Always loved that car. Thanks for all the additional information. I really liked it. Cheers and good night!
That is one of the prettiest little cars I've ever seen! Every angle is special, and the colour suits her perfectly.
Cor blimey! That's astonishing!
Never seen one of these. What a fantastic thing, and great design. That interior is glorious!. What a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing :)
Really enjoyed that one. What a car. Thanks Ian.
Many years ago when visiting a friend, a neighbour of theirs had 2 of these, one was a drop top, stunning looking cars.
What a great video Ian. Thank you so much:)
Great Video Ian you are really doing well. Keep it up mate your knowledge is awesome we all love your videos.
Absolutely fascinating car, in so many aspects! Thanks for bringing it to us. A treat, to be sure.
Love Panhards , and that 24 is gorgeous!!...thanks for sharing!
More videos like this please. Old, obscure and nuts are everything I like in a car.
Ian, just brilliant, great car, great colour and interesting to hear the brands story. Reminds us how many long standing brands can fail despite long histories.
Wow - didn’t know about these! Beautiful styling, you can see the clear influence into the Opron designs. Those ribs in the roof and boot are 👌
Bit quirky, bit loveable, bit fantastic. Totally great. Thanks for road testing this one. Good stuff.
I remember these from childhood holidays in France but knew nothing about them until now. Sounds like fun!
Well that was rather special! What a car, and what a terrific review.
As a child in the late sixties I would occasionally see one particular Panhard in traffic on my way to school in a city close to Frankfurt. It was the only one I saw in decades. Its odd looks fascinated me at the time. How marvelous, that such a wonderfully differently designed and styled model was actually put into production, with all the involvement, effort and dedication that required. Anything automotive out of the ordinary today seems to want to impress and show off.
What a gorgeous car inside and out, note how the door trims merges into the dash, lovely
Looks awesome! Especially with that colour, and it looks cool inside too!
What a lovely car and what a lovely insight to panhard thank you
That was brilliant. Thanks Ian.
I am in love. That front end is amazing. Just love it.
Fabulous choice, liked before watched, I’ll watch later. Love these.
Brilliant...again! Keep up the great work. Peace be unto you.
Local fellow here has one. Private import from when he lived in France. Fascinating and thanks for increasing my knowledge of these cars.
What a treat! Thanks for the video & your knowledge.
I love Panhard. So good to watch this review. Cheers
What an incredible car! I've always admired these from far off Australia - remarkable quirky designs as only the French seem to do back then. I'd imagine there is quite a following for them across the channel these days. Many thanks for what I think is one of your most interesting road tests, quite off the wall.
Fantastic car! Only ever heard of Panhard. Great film, as ever, thanks so much!
Wonderful video, thanks Ian! Lovely car. Citroën GS sound, Alpine wipers. Beautiful straight lined 60ies design. Gteat car.
I used to see these occasionally on our family holidays to France in the late 60's/ early 70's. I love these quirky vehicles along with the original Citroen Ami (Ford Anglia style rear window).
Yay! Another one of my French favorites! Very intresting to get to know more about it. I think I only saw one or two of these ever.
I love it's styling. It looks like the Citroen DS at the front. It seems so modern, not like a 1964 car. Lovely.
I an you hit the jackpot with this road test, The Panhard 24 has fascinated me a but ever since it caught eye when I used to spend holidays in th 60s with my grandparents in the south of France, Cool cars with lots of character.
Great review... Such an elegant car, styling so far ahead of its time, and air-cooled too. ..
Beautiful machine ,thank you for this!
"...a knitting needle in a box of spark plugs..." Absolutely classic! I thoroughly enjoyed this ride in a Panhard. In the States, most folks have never heard of them, much less seen Panhards. As always, excellent job. I'm glad that I recently discovered your channel. Cheers from Utah, USA.
That is such a beautiful car, and the exhaust note is the icing on the cake!
Amazing car and lots of great info, thanks. Those wipers are crazy.