Imagine being the first test person to get tied to a balloon, knowing you're gonna get caught by a plane, but not really knowing what is gonna happen with you, when you get yanked up in the sky by a fast flying aircraft

@markcantemail8018

Жыл бұрын

Jazz , I think they might have shown the test Person the Pork screwing Film before hand . It Might have Calmed him Down ?

@stuartgray5877

Жыл бұрын

I talked with the military doctor that oversaw the very first "extraction". The "Volunteer" that was "volunteered" was hoisted into the aircraft and immediately started swinging at people. He was PISSED that he had no idea what was about to happen to him.

@LMarshall73

Жыл бұрын

IIRC, the volunteer was Dick Marcinko, former commander of SEAL Team 2 and founder of SEAL Team Six.

“Lost in Shangri-La” is an account of a army medical personnel,in WW II, in a remote South Pacific Jungle in an inaccessible mountain range. Army parachutists reached the survivors but hiking out would be daunting. They landed a glider and then snatched it and the survivors in a successful rescue.

@orangelion03

Жыл бұрын

Great book!!!!

@lot2196

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Great story. It should get more notitorty.

@amartinjoe

Жыл бұрын

I read that book - it was amazing how they yanked that glider out of that forest. amazing story!

The anticipation of that line going taut had to be overwhelmingly terrifying.

@griz312

Жыл бұрын

It must be one of those things that is absolutely terrifying and badass to at least try.

@garethjames1300

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but what a ride !

@ThommyofThenn

Жыл бұрын

It's like a pulling a bandaid off but much more extreme. You can see it coming and try to prepare but it still comes as a shock

@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

Similar to a static line jump I'd assume

@ThommyofThenn

Жыл бұрын

@@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL what's that

so with only 1 fatality it was considerably safer than the V22

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

lol I was tempted to make that very same dig but I knew the comment section would be enough

@thekhoifish0146

Жыл бұрын

It's trying its best :(

@jackstecker5796

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, every V-22 crash I can think of either involved falsified maintenance records, or pilot error.

@gizmo709

Жыл бұрын

The V-22 has a much better safety record than many other aircraft in current service, especially among the marines. *glares at the CH-53*. The main issue is that, while it may be half as accident-prone as other aircraft, it tends to carry a lot of people.

@jackstecker5796

Жыл бұрын

@gizmo You're not wrong. If memory serves max sink rate in helicopter mode is something like 600 feet per minute, because of the high rotor loading. You can get into vortex ring state. But I might be wrong.

I once knew a guy that did this after being thrown off a bridge. During the process he broke two of his bones and sustained multiple deep cuts. After applying sutures to his wounds and resetting the broken bones with splint and bandages he had to be Fultoned out of a radioactive zone.... What a BOSS!

@mlc4495

Жыл бұрын

I think he might have been guided through the first aid process by a paramedic. Still, impressive stuff.

My step-dad who was first an ops and the commander of a spec ops squadron on the three corners of South Viet Nam, Cambodia and Laos. He and several colleagues evaluated the STARS system. Said it was a heck of a ride.

@bloodlove93

Жыл бұрын

a friend of my dads who died several years ago actually used it to evac nam after a night time enemy officer long distance elimination. man never said much about the details, i just know he died bitter and resentful of those he served under, feeling they ruined his life....never told me why.

I got a chance to see a live demo of the Fulton Skyhook at an Armed Forces Day airshow at the Point Mugu Naval base when I was in high school in 1967. The father of two of my high school classmates at Newbury Park was a diver working in the Navy's Man in Sea project, and he got us passes for the airshow. Where we saw the Fulton system grab a guy off the ground with a C-123, IIRC. Looked downright sporty. It was a great airshow including two passes by an SR-71 down the east-west runway, one slow, the second faster and gone into the sun. Probably the best part was the jet drone heading along the runway and out to sea, followed by an F-8 who fired a Sidewinder just past the stands, to clobber the drone. I suspect we don't see too many airshows like that these days.

@MisterIvyMike

Жыл бұрын

After Ramstein in 1988 we have no more (interesting) air shows in Germany, since 88 they are banned. (Germany, land of the ever anxious). But in the years before i've seen a lot airshows (including Ramstein 88) and in one of that we saw a "surface to air rescue" done by a C-130 at the Landsberg -Penzing air show. Landsberg was the home base of the "Lufttransportgeschwader 61" or translated "61st Air Transport Squadron". Miss that old shows... ☹️

@ColonelSandersLite

Жыл бұрын

Went to an airshow maybe 10 years back and saw something that I never thought I would actually see IRL - Wing walking on biplanes. There was some kind of hokey theatrical pirate story being read over the loudspeakers. It was kinda meh. But the actual wingwalking itself was pretty damn cool. Look up Kyle Franklin. Worth going to see if he ends up in your area sometime.

Very interesting. I always enjoyed seeing James Bond being plucked up by a B17. By the way, there is a good cinematic sequence of a C47 grabbing a CG4A glider at the end of Errol Flynn's "Objective Burma".

I totally thought you were pulling my leg. A bit of research revealed that you were just doing your usual education, complete with video. Johnny, you are the man! 👍

Funny thing is the B-17 seen in Thunderball is today a museum aircraft restored back to WW2 aircraft looks (despite the plane itself having no WW2 combat record)

It was so cool seeing this system in the Cod Cold War campaign. For how badass this extraction method is, it’s a shame how rarely it appears in video games.

People here might also be interested in Nate Saint's "Bucket Drop" technique. It involves a fixed wing aircraft trailing a long rope behind the aircraft, a rope as long as the turning radius of the aircraft then the aircraft makes a tight turn. The end of the rope is then no longer being pulled as it's like the center of a wheel, the payload on the end of the rope then hangs in the middle of the air and letting of the rope a bit lowers the payload down and can then pick up a payload.

THANK YOU for covering this! I have wanted to see a deep dive of this extraction method for YEARS!

Imagine using this recovery system for home delivery with horizontal-flying drones.

Since Thunderball, I've always (not seriously, of course) fantasized what could have happened if Bond had strung the line around his neck before the plane snagged it.

@bloodlove93

Жыл бұрын

i imagine a similar result if anyone tightly wraps anything around a neck....strangulation. could be wrong, maybe with the gentle lift,if one was strong enough maybe they could unwind it?.

@Tuberuser187

Жыл бұрын

Might be like a long drop hanging, the force seems to be in the spot where it could cause instant spinal fracture but not enough to cause decapitation. Though it might not cause the right vertebrae to break that cause instant death, its very dependent on the placement of the noose and how much slack there is so the result might be paralysis and then asphyxiation. Either way, not a fun time.

@Daniel4646

Жыл бұрын

@@Tuberuser187 As I said in my post, it was more for personal imagination and with a more slapstick-like air, not a hard-fact scientific discussion.

@Tuberuser187

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel4646 Was just a comment speculating myself too... No need to be an arsehole about it. Come to think about it though, "fantasizing" rather than just curious about what might happen if something goes wrong seems very, very weird.

@Daniel4646

Жыл бұрын

@@Tuberuser187 I didn't intend to be an AH. And as for the latter part - think more of an Abrahms/Zucker comedy like The Naked Gun.

TY 4 showing Miss France Claudette Augar (I think her nane) in "THUNDERBALL". I wanted to be as lovely as her when I saw that film.

I'd never really stopped and thought of the physics behind this. It makes so much more sense now I watched this and related it to a couple of things I have experienced! Like taking the twist out of a fishing line, the resistance of mono nylon even with 300 metres or yards of fishing line no hook or sinker is quite incredible. Same as doing my Bronze Medallion for Surf Lifesaving, pulling just rope freely fed to me as I swam out through the waves, was amazing! Like someone was pulling me backwards in the surf!

Excellent video Johnny! Regarding the photo of Robert Fulton on a motorcycle @5:38: he rode around the world in 1932-33. He wrote about his adventure in his book "One Man Caravan"....well worth the read even if you are not interested in motorcycles. He also filmed with a 16mm camera and produced a documentary, but I've only seen snippets of it.

Me as a Child: This Looks Fun! Me as a Teen: This Looks Fun! Me as an Adult: This Looks Fun! Also I can still Remember Fuckin around with this Mechanic in MSG 5, hood times... Thanks for Tackling on the subject Johnny, informative and enjoyable as always! Keep up the Damn Fine and Amazing work, my Friend!

@Kenionatus

Жыл бұрын

The cult classic game, Metal Steel Gonads.

this video makes we want to ride a shipping container to outer haven, thanks Johnny!

I worked in the group that implemented the Fulton Recovery System on the C-130. The stories about using and testing it were legendary.

I recall seeing at least two skyhook pickups at airshows in the 1970s. I also remember an episode of the Lassie TV show where Lassie was rescued from a glacier using an improvised low-altitude pickup. I doubt ASPCA approved that stunt.

@paulperry7091

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, they would have used a stunt dog.

I personally know one of the original live test subjects for the Sky Hook system. He is 83 years old today and a member of my church. He wears a Sky Hook tie pin every Sunday. He served in the Special Forces as a young man, completed tours in Cambodia and Vietnam, and was also one of the pioneers of the HALO sky dive technique. After leaving military service, he became a missionary in Thailand. He has spent over 40 years preaching, teaching, and training preachers across Southeast Asia. He was in Thailand when the 2004 tsunami struck and was active in the rescue and relive efforts. He is an amazing man with an amazing life story.

Thanks for reminding me I was overdue for an Ice Station Zebra re-watch.

I was assigned to the Avionic shop with the 67th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron, back in 1972-74, at RAF Woodbridge in England. we had the "Cat Wiskers" those booms out front on most of our birds. Somewhere in 1974, they removed them all we had all of the gear to use the system up until they removed them. It was removed more because we had HH-53C helicopters with refueling and could perform the Fulton system.

Excellent video, is there a chance you can cover the Harrier jump jet?

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@Themaxwithnoname

Жыл бұрын

True Lies has Arnold flying a AV-8 Harrier.

@paramishin4869

Жыл бұрын

@@Themaxwithnoname Yeah, that's the first movie that comes to my mind. Very badass too

I think the common reference besides "sky hook" is "vertical extraction". Amazing it works so well.

While working with P-3s I heard a story. The P-3 is never mentioned in your story, because it never passed the testing phase. A few issues with grabbing the line were worked out, but the P-3 doesn't have a rear door, only a side hatch. The story that I got (take it with a grain of salt, it's the Navy) is that the test subject got picked up just fine, but while transitioning from the air to the aircraft, he got caught up by the harness and started slapping against the aircraft. The situation couldn't be fixed so they grabbed his arm and detached the harness. It didn't work. The harness jammed, the people holding him lost their grip when he was pulled away from the AC. Rather than be pulled out hatch themselves, they let him go. The harness was partially opened and came away dropping the Commander into the air. The falling officer quickly opened his life vest to slow his descent and it seemed to be working. He hit the ground rolling, but did not survive. Trials on the P3 were halted. The system was still in the P-3 manuals and configuration but only for cargo. The Commander was noted as saying he didn't want any of his people doing something that he wouldn't do himself while taking the spot of a Lieutenant that was slated to test the system. Is it true? I couldn't find anything more than five old-timers that corroborated the story and the reference in manuals that's it's not for human retrievals. There isn't a real good procedure inside other than a gaffing pole. I have seen damage to the side of the aircraft in pictures as gear beats up the side of the AC. It's not pretty.

I haven't had a laugh like that in a while, what a fantastic and humorous video. Great work!

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Glad it gave you a laugh it was a fun video to make :)

6:42: "Research included test dummies and some live animals - but no bears."

@Delta_Hotel

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: the B-58 Hustler's escape capsule was tested using bears: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-58_Hustler#Crew_provisions

@Daniel4646

Жыл бұрын

@@Delta_HotelOooh, the irony!

Project 46 was an effort to upgrade STARS from a two person pick up to a six man pick up. On the last test to man rate the system the sky anchor failed, and all six test dummies fell to the ground. The system was never man rated as the spec ops guys started to look at the CV-22 to solve the long range pick up mission and the solution to the problems seen at Desert One in 1980.

My father was a Green Beret in Vietnam and actually got to use the skyhook at one point he said the way it yanked you hurt like hell.

Damn, Connery had hairy legs!

Ice Station Zebra is one of my absolute all-time-movies! Nice to see it mentioned here.

11:02 Rope burn much?

@cameronnewton7053

Жыл бұрын

Uhh, _yeah_

Good video. I've known about this system for a few years, since I rewatched Thunderball, and was intrigued by the premise. However, I've always thought it really was quite silly. Almost as silly as the Goodyear Inflatoplane...an attempt to build an inflatable airplane. 😮. (this is a suggestion for a video, btw) 😛

I remember being flabbergasted when that happened in BF4. Wondered if that was a real thing, neat knowing that it is.

I remember in the earlier 2000s there was an episode in the tv show The Unit had the character exfil using the Fulton STARS

Hey Johnny, dunno if ya already did it or not, but love to see a vid on the M1919. Keep up the good work!

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Not yet but I will forsure. Likely be a long video.

A fellow I use to work with was in the Air Force. And said they had a waiting list of Volunteers to be picked up by the aircraft.

I always imagine a former soviet nco or officer watching a video on cold war espionage and just face palm.

@paulperry7091

Жыл бұрын

I expect their Western counterparts are facepalming even harder,

@lmccampbell

Жыл бұрын

@@paulperry7091 yeah at how inept the soviets truly were.

Richard Marcinko states in his book Rouge Warrior that he was used in testing this system.

@ThommyofThenn

Жыл бұрын

Rogue* I mix those spellings up all the time

The image of aircrew getting chased around the fuselage, in flight, by an angry pig is hilarious.

About the line guard and the part where the line need to be caught in. I just remembering a game where you play as a gunner onboard of AC-130. I cant remember the game sadly. Either a Call of Duty or Ace Combat: Assault Horizon. But at the end of said mission, the crew are tasked to sky hook someone on the ground. We see a clip of the AC-130 from the outside, moving the hook part into position. I dont think the system was so simple that some C-130s could have it on and ready in case they need to use it. And I also thinking more about the line guard, as how that would had been stored

Skyhook and a wing suit, now that could be a lot of fun.

Jonny, you are amazing! That was cool!❤😊

"pork screwing"

Quality video Johnny!

Where in the world did you find VIDEO of the Fulton Skyhook on a C-123 Provider? I'm in need of it for a project I have been working on. Have found a few stills of 54-0683 outfitted with the recovery equipment, but not a bit of luck finding any kind of video. Please advise what searches I need to do. Thank you. Used to watch this at the AF base my family lived next to in Europe whenever they would practice it with C-130s. It was always a fascinating thing to see.

Similar system was actually used to recover exposed films (pre digital) from early recon. satellites. This was the Corona Project using KH (Keyhole) satellites.

Saw a demo during Bright Star 85' in Egypt and did one with my ODA and SEALs at sea in 89'

When serving in the Navy a friend of mine who flew an F 18 was actually hit once by ground fire in his wing, a hole about the size of your middle finger. Didn't know about it until he landed and the plane was getting looked over by the ground crew a couple hours later.

Better make that donation burns.

Every ship, boat, and dingy should have this system as a way to airlift people to safety. Every lifeboat should have at least one such system, either to lift a critically injured person to safety or to mark the lifeboats' position in a way that is visible from much further away. Maybe replace the helium bottle with a chemical reaction that slowly produces hydrogen from contact with water. Just add water to the balloon inflation device and watch the balloon grow, and it could also help with longevity. Make the process two staged, one fast to inflate, and one slow to maintain for a couple of days.

Hey, Johnny, I'm looking forward to ya doing a video on some iconic modern pistols - such as the Glock 17, the Barretta, and the SIG Sauer P226 - in movies, TV shows, and games. It's the next logical leap after your vid on WWII Allied Sidearms on the silver screen.

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Will do! Give me some time tho 🙏

If you look closely at retrieval in Thunderball you’ll see the second before pick up Bond has the rope under his right arm, that wouldn’t be good at all.

I’m surprised it was in operation so long before a back-up parachute was employed. That would have been one of my first considerations.

Yeah. In Burma they created a small airfield with Parachute and Glider dropped troops to supply troops in the area. I do believe that - as shown - they were able to recover some gliders early on that may have had wounded on board. I believe they eventually got the airfield they were constructing sufficiently big enough to land and launch cargo aircraft. There were more modern Helicopters that had a Refueling Probe. They lost one of these though when it was sent to deal with a yacht that was in danger from a Hurricane. Problem was - the were using a refueling nozzle shaped like a bad mitten bird that the refueling probe was supposed to penetrate. The wind was twisting the nozzle around so much that they could not get the probe into it. They were running out of fuel and elected to give up so that they would be able to make a powered water entry. Some of the crew survived but some did not. Wave heights were so high that the trough was very deep and one of the men who jumped from the chopper was likely killed by the fall. An escort ship went in and got the guys who made it, using the body of the ship to create a wind break to pick them up. The Yacht they had been sent out to help - made it in on it's own. . .

I have vague memories of a different, simpler Sky Hook system. The plane circles around the ground guy, steep bank, wide circle, and lowers the cable. As long as that circle stays relatively stable, and enough cable is on the ground, the ground guy has time to strap in to the end of the cable, whereupon the play stops circling and flies away. The transition from circling to straight is gentle enough to avoid abrupt yanking away from the ground. I imagine it can be more dangerous for the plane since it has to circle around the whole time, nice fat predictable target, and pinpointing where the ground guy is. Wish I could remember its name. I'm sure I've got the details wrong.

I hope you played MGSV. Fulton recovery is a great asset 💯😁

Im surprised you didn't show the scene from dead rising. Main boss deployed the balloon but the player handcuffed his harness to a rail. What happened next is something

The real life heroes here on the Wirral are the RNLI ,as well as the first Responders..good post though !Johnny..😊

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Thanks E. My wife is a paramedic so I'll pass on your kind words 🙏

@eamonnclabby7067

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq top stuff...Mrs C thoroughly impressed...in the so called good old days...before scrubs..Mrs C was in what was called the Forward Aid team, jumping into ships holds in Bootle docks in Nursing whites...I mean..ooo err missus...!!!.. she says it cost her a fortune in laddered tights...not very lady like, I guess...I m sure they could swap a few tales..!!.. give Mrs J our best...virtual cuppa on it's way..!!!...

Thanks for the video on this.

My father was stationed at Udorn air base when VMA-332 was there in 1962 and said the system had been in use there to evacuate personnel. What exactly those personnel were doing, I don't know.

@ye11owman29

Жыл бұрын

doin' your mom

Pretty sure they used it once in The Unit. I have an image of Dennis Haysbert being picked up by it, in my mind.

our content creator routinely uses this system when he needs to leave a bar/tavern in a hurry, often to avoid paying his tab

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

We have to fight inflation however we can. Times are tough.

That is one way how to get a uber and lift driver and the Chinook helicopters and Blackhawk supersea Stallions are always available for pick up points on the maps when your radio up to them

I m going to die of old age when the m16 comes out with the line up of vids

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

But where do we go once it's finished.

@erikasan3299

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq oh don't you worry I have plans

That initial yank would not make me happy. Hence I am not a CIA agent.

so what I take away here is still a niche for Fulton in long range difficult terrain insertion and extraction

I was friends with Len le Shack who utilized this in the Arctic from a soviet ice station. It's real and was used often

Mastodon tusks....in the artic.. Yes, the world was much, much warmer.

"Robert Fulton had an extensive engineering background" That's funny. If you're familiar with the name Robert Fulton.

this was not retired in 96. this is still used today.

"Live pigs were used in testing, as they had a similar nervous system to humans." Nah, I believe they used pigs because one guy said, "Let's make today the day pigs fly"

When i heard sky hook, i thought immediately about the PayDay 2 (game) missions where the Pilot picks up heavy load of money etc. ;)

Fulton Recovery Expenses (GMP -900)

This system still has advantages over helicopter extraction. Not to mention, how has no one capitalized on this as a high end thrill ride? This looks way cooler than skydiving!

6:45 which differnciates it from supersonic bomber escape pod tests

EXTRACTION ARRIVED AT MOTHERBASE!

a now dead Vietnam vet friend of my dad actually got to use this once in nam to evac from a dangerous in enemy territory after sniping an enemy officer.

wow good video, very interesting, the truth is that I always wondered if it would be physically possible to do it. I always thought that the pull of the plane when hooked would be too strong (even with some shock absorption system) to be supported by a human. I always thought it was just a movie or video game thing..

I think that Battlefield Vegas needs to buy a C-130 and a couple of these and start charging people $20,000 a flight. They would make $1000000 in the first year.

I watched them practice in preparation for Desert Storm. way cool system

In the late 90's I was working at Super 8 next to a truck stop in Michigan. I met drivers who had served a couple of them were rescued from Iraqi this way. Quite a story.

@jameskietzer1960

Жыл бұрын

I also met a veteran who served in Vietnam. One day after my 19th birthday. I got shot at, then got shot, medic shot me up with morphine, and the helicopter I was on got shot down. So he said in one day in Vietnam I got shot at, shot, shot up, and shot down in 1973. LOL

Back in 87 I picked up a Skyhook balloon in surplus.

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Now you just need to find a buddy with a C130

This appeared in a early 50s movie starring Dale Robertson. Top of the World

For some odd reason I want to do this now. Gonna be honest, a pissed off pig tearing through the fuselage of an aircraft after being taken for a ride is really just Karma biting you in the ass. LOL. "Porkscrewing". Too funny.

This was practiced at CFB Lahr before that base was closed 1993 by American forces. Night operation. Airfield on full blackout.

Seen it in green berets one of the few John Wayne movies I like

Hey Johnny, you forgot about Call of Duty Black ops cold war.. where the character Bale has to choose between two characters...

In the movie Double Team with Van Damm they use that.

Skyhooks! Legendary Australian Band. The lead singer died while flying a helicopter.

Is this a re-upload? Or a more in-dept view?

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

It's fresh material🤓

A bit late but keep up the good content johnny :)

Another example in Holly Wood would be The Unit - S2E1's ending

Folsom sky hook is a real system. Would have trained with in the park service.

Can never! if you do that you only have a head hanging on it.

Could you maybe do a vid about the flying wing ? (Like in indiana jones)

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

Жыл бұрын

Ya! That's a cool idea.

A+ for pronouncing the WAH-CO (Waco) Glider correctly... I always thought is was WA-CO like the city in texas... But it is indeed WAH-CO (Weaver Aircraft Company of Ohio ) and has nothing to do with Waco, TX Learning is fun-da-mental