Dishwasher in the kitchen, clothes washing mashine in the bathroom.

The main reason for keeping our washing machines in the bathroom is the floor drains. So if there is a leak, no harm done because basically every home in Finland has (straight-at-the-floor-)floor drains in the bathrooms and usually in separate toilets too. Few people have a tub or shower cabinet. Finland has quite a strick regulations when it comes to waterworks, insulation etc. In homes, so every space that can potentially get wet has to have a drain. This being said, I live in a old wooden cottage and we only have a outdoor sauna, not a bathroom/shower etc. at all so I do have a washing machine for clothes in my kitchen. :) But it is not common here.

@katjak5334

5 ай бұрын

I agree and would also argue that in most Finnish homes we have this "open concept" layout for kitchen and living room. So the noise would also be a problem and an annoying factor for sure. I have 3 kids so the washing machine is going all the time.... 🙄

@nanni9615

5 ай бұрын

@@katjak5334 Try putting it on a wooden floor in a house with old russian windows. Jingles like a christmas song! :D Luckily we have this typical "rintamamiestalo" where all rooms are separated with thick wooden doors. But I have had to put spinning to a smaller setting.

@hellionfi

5 ай бұрын

I think it is also a hygiene thing - handling your laundry with all the skid marks etc. (yes, laundry can be dirty as well as clean, so you might want to factor that in) where you also prepare the food you eat... Yes, when I have seen it in UK homes, it really weirds me out.

@Kosmologiikka

5 ай бұрын

@@hellionfi At the same time people keep waste right under the sink. Not a hygiene thing, just plumming, space and regulations.

@Ziegeri

5 ай бұрын

I've seen washing machines in kitches too, but usually they are either in washing room or what ever the fuck "kodinhoitohuone" is called in English.

I am pretty sure that window had 3 panes. The one he opened has two on the room side only about a centimeter apart (that cannot be pulled apart and I think has special gas there) and then the third outer one.

@elinahamalainen5867

5 ай бұрын

So more like 3 or 4 panes are the norm. Only very old houses have 2 panes.

@peterbaarman612

5 ай бұрын

Agree

@flatusfi

5 ай бұрын

Yes! That's right, you are correct. They are triple glazing windows at least.

@WeeJiiWee

18 күн бұрын

You're absolutely right! That's Argon (or something) between those glasses! Anyway that gas is suppoused to stay there for ten years to isolate. After it's effects are gone, it's just air that isolates. But make no mistake! Air is the best isolate, that's why we have that gap between windows.

I'm sorry, but for me having a washing mashine in the kitchen is kind of yucky 😀 Handling your dirty clothes in a kitchen where you make food. But I do understand that if your bathroom is really small, you really don't have a choice where to put it.

@killerkonnat

5 ай бұрын

DISH washing machine. Not clothes.

@emmarantanen8635

5 ай бұрын

​@@killerkonnatNo, in England for example (there are other places too) it is super common to have your washing machine for clothes in the kitchen

It's not a prison, but a high guard rail on the top floor of the house. someone always manages to drop something down the stairs, especially in the student dormitories.

The "cage" wall on the 8th floor is there because it's the top floor - other floors have upgoing stairs blocking the way so it's unlikely for anyone to fall down to the next floor down even if stumbling while drunk, but on the topmost floor the risk exists. You don't see the safety bars in every building, but a lot of the newer apartment blocks and especially student housing have them

The windows are actually double glazed just as you described you also have. So there is 2 glass panels really close together, but then as shown in the video, there is second window frame with another double glazed window, so there is basically 4 panels of glass total, 2 + 2.

@lesalmin

5 ай бұрын

Or in most cases 2 + 1.

@Sepelrastas

5 ай бұрын

​@@lesalminlike this video actually has...

Triple windows and electric keys are pretty standard nowadays. I live in a building from 1959, but also here these renewals have been made. Windows are essential part of saving heating energy. The worst part of these old buildings is the fact that storage is cold and on the roof top without an elevator.

@squidcaps4308

5 ай бұрын

Electric keys are not even common let alone standard. I don't know a single building here that has electronic keys. I would not be surprised to see one but it will be an anomaly.

@esaholmberg

5 ай бұрын

Electric keys are nowadays very common.

@LevisL95

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I guess normal locks are still much more common, but electric ones are retrofitted more and more. Especially iLoq seems pretty common in my experience.

Re: Locks Even in buildings where we don't have electronic locks, we usually have the mechanical Abloy locks, falling to the class of disc tumbler locks. Abloy is now rather international and has absorbed many lock makers, but originates in Finland. The original Classic design lock is from the 1930's IIRC. While it is not picking proof, it is highly picking resistant especially compared to pin tumbler designs widely used in the US (hint - you will find videos on the channel Lock Picking Lawyer). The design readily allows serializing keys in an apartment block so that each apartment key fits the street door as well, and the doors to the storage/laundry/sauna spaces.

@LevisL95

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, even with regular non-electric locks, I don't think anyone needs a separate key for the front door.

i was traveling in Stockholm Sweden this summer and i had an airbnb apartment which didn't have a drying rack over the sink. it felt really weird and messy to dry all the dishes on some weird table top dryers. made me to appreciate our drying racks back in Finland a lot more.

Those old "cage storage" rooms in the dark cellars or attics in old buildings were the scariest thing when I was a kid. One place had timed lights, so that the lights would go off a few minutes after you had pushed the button, and you would be left in the darkness to try to find the button to get them on again. And the button would be near the door, on the other side of the room that your storage cage was. All the weird stuff people had in their cages made the weirdest and scariest figures in the darkness, and I don't know if there were any mice or bats in those really, but as kid I was sure there were and that those would come at me. Those new storages with bright lights that actually stay on, and light colours (the old ones used to be unpainted) and being on the street level are so much nicer 😅

@linroos5252

5 ай бұрын

Had to visit my storage in the cellar once when I was watching my nephews. The kids wanted to come along and take a look, seeing the place for the first time. They handled it quite well but the first thing out of their mouths when sis came to pick them up was "Auntie has a scary basement!" 😅

@kanukki84

5 ай бұрын

Minä asuin 18 vuotiaana tyttöystävän kanssa talossa joka oli sotien aikaan ollut väliaikainen sotasairaala, häkkivarasto rakennettiin tiloihin jossa sotien aikaan säilytettiin ruumita. Meille tuli aina ahdistunut olo kun piti mennä varastoon:D

There is only simple glass on the outside, because if someone throws a stone at it, it is cheaper to replace it than the inner window, which is double-glazed. Our old apartment (built: 1990) also had triple-glazed windows. This is quite normal here in the north.

Majority of this stuff's common not only in regular homes, but office buildings, hotel rooms, etc. as well. So common place stuff infact, that Finns only realize most of them to be in any way "special" when they visit other countries. Tokyo city with its 1-pane windows in Hotels was honestly a shocker. And yes, laundry machine in a kitchen? WTF??

@killerkonnat

5 ай бұрын

It's not laundry. It's a dishwasher.

@annekristiina7503

5 ай бұрын

He meant other countries have a laundry machine in their kitchens@@killerkonnat

@tuikkur.5655

5 ай бұрын

​@@killerkonnat They do have washing machines (for laundry) in the kitchen in UK. 🤷‍♀️

I've seen most of those things but the rööri recycling system was a new one for me. I've only seen the traditional bins. Also circular bins with a hatch up top on a dome, but they have extra storage space underground. Those ones aren't emptied underground though

This was so far the best video about Finnish apartments and other homes. Lots of facts quickly and to the point, no unnecessary chatter. Greetings from Finland

In Finland, you can use the *same key* to access your home, your own storage buildings, the garage and also the buildings of the summer cottage. The locks can be serialized like that.

Yes, a washing machine in the kitchen would be weird. They go in the bathroom.

@SPPhotography89

5 ай бұрын

Welcome to the 2010s, some new idiot invented that, calls himself a designer. There is a washing machine in the toilet, and a dishwasher in the kitchen.

It is largely the same in Sweden. Apart from that with coded key and sauna. Yes washing machine in the kitchen is very strange! Dirty clothes and food mixed. It is usually in the bathroom or in a laundry room.

In Finland, that outer outer door must last at least 30 minutes in a fire, at the same time that inner door keeps smoke gases out of the apartment.

@SPPhotography89

5 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Youjs6yHibudp7g.html In this apartment building in Turku in 2014, the fire test of the doors showed that the doors could not withstand burning for 30 minutes. The house was completed in the 1970s

@jattikuukunen

5 ай бұрын

Those double doors are illegal to build since 2018 because you might not be able to open the door if there's a fire that causes a pressure increase.

5:30 The more important reason for electric keys is that if somebody loses their key, it can be invalidated electronically and it cannot be used to access the apartment or even the whole building even if some criminal found it. Previously most apartment buildings used mechanical Abloy master keying system which allows having only one key that can access only the doors that you're supposed to access but in case you lost that key, rekeying of all the doors that the key was able to access was required if you want to be safe. Rekeying mechanical locks is pretty expensive so in reality this was rarely done and every lost key reduced security of the system a lot. (Abloy locks are practically pick-proof so lost keys are the biggest threat factor in most buildings.) (A skilled picker can pick typical UK lock in 5-20 seconds. A skilled picker can pick typical Abloy lock in 8-15 minutes.)

2:00 That window actually has 3 panes with inert gas between two innermost panes. Old houses from the 1970s used to have 3 fully separate panes but when the sandwitch structure with inert gas between two panes was invented, it got pretty common fast. If somebody wants to build zero energy buildings here in Finland, they typically use 4 pane windows with two sets of double panes resulting in overall structure glass, inert gas, glass, air, glass, inert gas, glass. This is maybe 30% more expensive than typical implementation (like in this video) and has the con-side that if snow catches the outermost glass during heavy snowfall, it will not melt away like with 3 pane window. As a result, most people actually consider the 3 pane setup the best compromise.

We have triple glazing here, in all apartments unless the building is very old. Most do not notice that the inner window panes is already double, there is low pressure air between two classes and they work as a single unit. Very easy to miss that the first layer is double...

Having a washing machine for laundry in the bathroom is normal. Having it in the kitchen is just weird.🤷‍♀️😁😂

I used to live in very similar building around year 2001 (in a building that was only a couple of years old at that time) and the only major difference was that sauna wasn't at the roof and doors used mechanical Abloy Exec locks. There was a shared pool table on the ground floor, though. So most of this stuff is already pretty old here in Finland.

I have one of those electric keys. The apartment house I live is old but the locks have been upgraded to use those. It is handy. The out door (to stairway) can also be opened with a number code that you can give to your friend when they are visiting.

In our apartment-building we have the ”cages” in the cellar. The key is the same, like for the apartment,

Best part of the video. You correcting the pronunciation of saana to sauna.

A good video and he was clear about what is different in these very new buildings compared to older ones. One thing I would like to mention about the "häkkivarasto" storage is that in all the apartment buildings I have lived (they were all built 1950-1980) the storage "cages" were built with a frame made of wood compared to the all metal ones in the new building in the video. That means that they were actually quite easy to break in to, and break-ins have been quite common. It doesn't matter how good a padlock you have if it is attached to some flimsy old wood frame that can easily be broken with a crowbar. All you need is a sketchy neighbour with the key to the storage area door.

@jattikuukunen

5 ай бұрын

Well the padlocks most people use are super easy to break as well, even with brute force. The more expensive ones are more difficult to break in the sense that you need better tools or knowledge. The bottom line is to not store anything valuable in an unattended shared space.

In the UK, you often have a window over the sink. Therefore impossible to have a drying cabinet over the sink.

Regarding the saunas, it's pretty common in newer buildings to have a sauna in top floor. And also, in those saunas there's a reservation list for your personal time slot. I've been living in one of these houses once and trying my best to never do that again. I need my own personal sauna which I've had in almost every apartment I've lived in. That's the one thing you can't live without. Of course in that video there was student apartments and they don't have the in-apartment private saunas for obvious reasons. It might also be different between the generations, young people might not be that fond of saunas anymore. As a middle-aged man, I need a small room with hot steam to feel comfortable. Go sauna!

In Helsinki the Clarion hotel there is sauna and swimmingpool at 16th floor, with nice citywiev

Yes, basically all the doors in Finland, that have a lock, lock automatically when you close the door. Apartment doors, carage doors, office room doors etc. There is a switch next to the lock tongue that makes it possible to disable the locking mechanism and you can open the door from just the handle.

Actually I think he did mean we had double panel window. That other panel had actually double glazing. Usually we have 3 to 4 glazing in total.

The inner windowpane in this video is a double pane in itself - the one glass element is actually 2 sheets of glass with either a vacuum or special gas between 2 sheets of glass. so it is 'the' insulation glass in this instance.

I use the Rööri tube disposal system as well.

I have combo washing machine thingy, it has both dryer and washer in the same. Absolute godbless for one person household, of course it does not dry as big amount as a proper dryer would, but as a single it does the job well enough for me.

I used to live in that area back in 2014-2015 while it was still basically a huge construction yard, and boy did I hate those trash tubes 😂 they were stuck almost daily and can't even fit one full trash bag there.

@flatusfi

5 ай бұрын

Because people misused them? Broken furniture's, broken bicycles and whatever really wrong crap things was pushed into those garbage tubes. I heard! Perkele!

@sundflux

5 ай бұрын

@@flatusfi pretty much. After friday it was usually stuck with pizza boxes. Maybe nowadays this happens less.

Windoes in that example was actually 3-layer windows. There was one outer layer and double inner layer. And 3-layer windows are standard has been about 40 years at least. Key thing is normal you dont need a electric lock system to achieve this. Standard mechanical locking system works same way, you need only a one key and locks and keys are "coded" way that different keys can open a one door and some locks accept only a specific key.

To those Abloy keys you can program the locks it will open. It is programmable key (electrically).

Hey by the way, Finnish independence day is coming, it's on 6th of December. Should you release some fitting reaction that day? I don't know what should it be though... You have listened to Finlandia just recently after all, otherwise I would have requeated that. (Well, "Flashmob Finlandia" by MieskuoroPekka is maybe the best version with most feeling. But still, maybe there's better ideas out there.)

The ilock is one of Kimi Räikkönen's sponsors you can see the logo on his cap

I have washing machine+dryer combined in one machine it is so easy you put your clothes and then you can just take dry/ clean clothes straight from machine. Sure it cost more electricity but it is so easy and less work.

Finns tradionally put the washing machine to bathroom because historically that was the appliance that potentially leaked water and having it in the bathroom reduced the risk of water damage a lot. Nowadays it's more common to have washing machine in some dry space but not in kitchen because washing machines are typically pretty noisy and Finns prefer silence.

The reason to put washing machines into your wc/shower room is that there is a drain in there that can deal with the volume of water that can be expelled out of a faulty machine.

Oliver is actualizing it all so well

Those built-in drying racks are very common in Italy as well

Not all buildings' storage area need the tenant to get their own lock. In my apartment building the lock is provided by the housing company and it opens with the same key as my apartment door. Also I have never ever seen a bike storage room that was below street level. I guess that may be something very specific to city center or just something that is common for Helsinki area buildings.

Triple glazing witdows are good for insulation. you have to understand, when insulating properly you keep the cold and the heat outside, so youll have a good temperature all around the year.

Washing machine is in the WC in case it leaks and for the noise

And drying laundry on a rack moisturizes dry indoor air in winter. And goes electricity much less

Washing machine is always in the bathroom. I’ve seen them in the kitchen in central/southern Europe.

Sadly the newest finnish apartments do not allow double doors anymore (fire regulations)

All Finish homes in bathroom there's is least 2 sewer drains, except older houses. In 80's there was bit of problem in mainly student apartments, blocked sewer drains causing water damage in apartments. The cause: people passed out from alcohol, while taking shower blocking the sewer drain.

In Sweden all newer houses have 3-glass windows. And we use proper insulation in floors, walls and roofing. This is the most important thing you can do to save energy in our climate.

There is 3-5 layer of glass in that window

Pretty much every door locks here when you close it, so yes, it is the overwhelming norm. The one key only is something that have been usual in Finland even before electronic locks - they use kind of same system as normal vs master key locks.

In Sweden one of the reasons to not have the washing machine in the kitchen is that we spend a lot of time there eating and so on. It is very disturbing with the noice from a washing machine while spending your time there. Another reason is that the bathroom is waterproof so if the washing machine leaks it is not as bad.

The only really rare thing of all of those is the trash pipe but I guess it will become more common as new areas are being built. There's one pretty new area in Tampere called Vuores and they have that as well. And since you asked, I go to sauna every other day.

I have one of those smart keys. They can code it so you only have access where you need to, also if you lose the key they can revoke it and issue a new one. Had an occasion in the past where I lost my key and had to have my door lock rekeyed, no more of that! 😊

There is a penthouse sauna in my building and it's built in 90's

Did he really forget to say that when cooling off between löyly, you (really should) drink cold beer or long drink or... whatever cold you drink... Beer is the traditional choice (if you count out Kossu aka Koskenkorva vodka)... it almost even isn't sauna without saunakalja! After all, only acceptable reason to refuse a drink here in Finland is if you're recovering alcoholic... :D

Yes, nearly all doors have a key like that, obviously older houses might not have been updated to the newer locks, but otherwise, yes, that is the most common key type

Well im Fin and im using our sauna like once a year. But when i ever get the chance to other sauna i take those.

The first apartment i lived after leaving my parents it had a door that you'l need to use key from outside to lock it i thought it was broken but same time i never left my keys inside.

That was triple glass. The inner one is a double element.

Those windows which seem to only have two panes of glass with that bigger gap might actually have 3 panes of glass the two are just really close together. Some older style windows with 3 panes of glass have a pretty even distance between them.

Oh see the thing is, when he pointed at the triple windows, he meant that the inner one had double glass. Both side of the "pane" have a glass separated by a smallish air layer (because if you grow the air layer too big, it stops being an effective insulator) and then there's two panes, on the inner wall and outer wall. The iLok electric keys btw are NOT really really cool. Unless it's really cool to be locked outside your apartment because you had half a degree of a turn during pushing the key in so the lock refuses to turn and open. And the situation was exactly the same with old non-electronic keys. You still had one key to all the building's different areas with different locks. The plumber "installing" the dishwasher is a huge scam btw. You have to install it yourself but the professional has to turn the valve for 60e. If you don't install it, you pay like 100e for him to do it. And can you imagine that nobody has wanted to adopt the dish drying cupboards? Except maybe swedes. One thing he sets a bad example at is drying the laundry in the living space. You're not supposed to do that. I think there's health reasons, but also because the bathroom is built to evaporate moisture and air it out the pipes, whereas the living space ventilation and heating is not built for that. I hope HOAS doesn't see his video either, because they are tired of repeating "do not pull the door from the key in the lock, they'll snap and get stuck and it's expensive to remove". When he talks about roof saunas, that's true, but I lived in a student complex built in 2003 and it had top floor sauna with balcony. And wasn't in a different rent category than the others. Friend lived in a cheaper house that was older and it had bottom floor sauna with a nice terrace as well. My cousin on the other hand lives in a very old building in the downtown and they have a sauna in the top floor, practically an attic storage space floor, and basically a roof top balcony (the roof is at chest level). Plastic recycling is btw now legally mandatory for buildings with more than 20 people living in. Rööri is probably a loan word from german, röhre. My student apartment complex got upgraded trash bins as well, but an older upgrade - molokki. Which are the ones that have a 5 meter deep bag hanging underground from the waist level cap on the bin that's installed on the ground. Never seen a bike storage other than ground level actually, we used to live in a house built I guess in the 80's or so and it also had ground level bike storage. Thought that's been always the thing. The bikes do get stolen from the storage spaces, which is why people take their expensive bikes to their balconies or inside apartment.

The washing machine is in the bathroom because that's where the shower is and where you naturally take out dirty clothes and stuff them in... for a Finn it's crazy to have in the the kitchen ;D

The window he showed in the beginning actually seems to be triple-window. If you look carefully, there's a double-window in the inner frame

Did he mention that they have double floor dreins in the bathroom in student appartements? Its been know to happen that people pass out drunk sitting over the drain. This leading to water damage. Solution, new law forcing building 2 of them

3-4 clasing in some houses.

I seen apartments with wash machine in the kitchen in Finland, not that weird. Sometimes they have separated closet for that.

Those double doors are going away because of fire safety regulations. New buildings only have a single door.

These modern buildings seem to feel like future prisons.

I have all these in my house, exept that the sauna is underground.

I already seen those drying closets here, in Belgium, my grand parents had that 40 years ago, coming from Italy... so not sure about that being Finnish

@tuijasinkkonen9121

5 ай бұрын

On ne suomalaiset.

@LevisL95

5 ай бұрын

I've heard on many occations that these are also popular in Italy! Apparently (wikipedia) there are some predating US patents, but the idea was popularized in Finland when Maiju Gebhard invented it here in the 1940's.

I feel like having a washing machine in the kitchen just seems kinda disgusting? I mean I wouldn't want dirty laundry anywhere near my kitchen

Triple glazing is a standard thing

i just cant imagine any reason to put your washing machine to kitchen. Is it just logical to throw your used clothes to laundrybasket or straight to the machine when you go to the sauna/shower?

The video contains quite a bit of small factual errors, he doesn't seem to understand how many of the things actually work or what are the real reasons for some of the things, but in general it is quite accurate and good video 11:30 it is a safety rail, since the stairs are behind it with a huge drop. Finland is packed full of single engineers with a lot of free time after work, so that might help explain the amount of innovative engineering solutions to help with daily life 😂 ps. That elevator cut reminded me of a fact that most might not know, is that one of the world's biggest elevator companies operating world wide called *KONE* is a Finnish company, and 'kone' in Finnish means machine

@jattikuukunen

5 ай бұрын

yeah he was an economics student

Sauna 2x / week minimun

@SPPhotography89

5 ай бұрын

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Washing machine in kitchen very odd thing to have.

washing machine in kitchen is weird as fuck :D

I sauna once a week at least

yes all Fins are geniusses :D

@2:20 its faken triple glazin (first (outer) is one and inner has double. Gg master of economics faken hell

yeah,washer in bathroom

Having a sauna on the roof wastes energy during winter.

Laundry and kitchen do not belong together

That's bs. New homes have even 7 layers of windows.

The places where VIP Saunas are built is just insane, you can rent one in Ice hockey stadion :D

Could put up a 10000 lumen bluelight lamp somewhere in the ceiling corner and connect it to a timed electricity outlet that turns on at 6am every morning. [ SUN ON DEMAND ]

My Swedish apartment have double doors

Se have 4 layers windows

This is not standard for EVERY home. He is talking about his city's student rental appartments. I don't think this applies for every home in the country. Same systems are in place in the neighbouring countries, but it depends on when the specific building was built and how old systems are in place. 3-glass windows are becoming standard in newly built appartments across the whole nordics because of the cold weather for example, and I just don't see why this is beeing presented as something unique for just Finland. Same with plumbing rules, and digital door keys are beeing implemented all over scandinavia. Not unique at all for Finland. Swedes keeps their washing machines in the bathroom aswell for the exact same reason as fins. Basically the building codes are very much the same in the nordic and scandinavian countries.

Ok, whats the deal here I wonder ? A Scotsman who lives in Malaysia and only makes videos about Finland ? Whats the catch here, because theres always a catch.

@jattikuukunen

5 ай бұрын

He has a channel for Germany as well.

7:10 This is bs. You can install a dish washer.

The drying cabinet is actually an American invention from the 1800's.

I just walked by the house where Maiju Gebhard, the inventor of the dish drying rack lived. There is a commemomaritive plaque on the wall. You can buy the drying racks separately in Finnish hardwarestores.