Reaction to the 2024 Presidential Race I Glenn Loury and John McWhorter
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@FUToob
27 күн бұрын
Rapists and mentally ill people are coming across the border. WTH are you talking about Glenn Loury? Are you guilty of that which you criticize DJT for? Trump has for a long time, if not always, been a speaker who the listeners had to infer a bit of additional meaning in his words. If you are a thinking person entering the "arena" of discussion with sincerity, it isn't that difficult to do so. If you ave TDS, like McWhorter, you of course don't that often.
its strange that everyone talks about Trumps lies but no one addresses Bidens
@dang1861
27 күн бұрын
Like saying Trump called a graveyard of soldiers "losers" or how Trump lost 15 million jobs. Or that the economy was flailing until he got in office, etc, etc
@Adam-tj4oy
27 күн бұрын
@@dang1861and you believed what The Atlantic reported. Did you believe msm when they and the dems lied for years about the Russia collusion hoax. Their lies about inflation and the lies that come each month as the jobs report is quietly adjusted down months later for prior months. Do you believe the border is secure, that crime rates are down and all the other nonsense spewed daily from the whitehouse and msm. And saying Trump lost 15 million jobs is no different that the stupidity of Biden claiming he created 15 million jobs, it’s COVID slow poke.
@donnamenzies8506
27 күн бұрын
@@dang1861 sorry but you've been lied to. Most of the garbage that gets attributed to Trump was never said. This is one of them. The deep state media will do anything in their power to destroy Trump.
@reginaford8575
27 күн бұрын
So true
@BGTuyau
27 күн бұрын
Nothing strange about it at all. The prevalent "Democrat good, Republican bad" formula is all one needs to take into account.
No John, youre not deranged because you object to DJTs lies, but because you apply the standard selectively and provincially.
@theouthwaite3385
27 күн бұрын
every time i hear someone say trump lies, i wonder if they have never heard joe biden speak.
@deadgolfer6345
27 күн бұрын
@@theouthwaite3385 I've heard him speak. He lies.
@williamhaun7350
27 күн бұрын
What did he lie about?
@freddieoblivion6122
27 күн бұрын
@@williamhaun7350 "We beat big pharma this yeeeear!" -JB - What's that even MEAN?
@deadgolfer6345
27 күн бұрын
@@freddieoblivion6122 I think he said we beat Medicare.
Gotta love the people coming to this "sudden realization" about Biden, as if this hasn't been going on for years.
@garybicknell2135
23 күн бұрын
People like John were given a software patch that allows them limited ability to believe their own eyes for a limited time. The patch is time limited so he and the rest of the media NPCs will be back to parroting the party line once the party has completed their internal coup and they can get back to the business of saving "our democracy" against the will of the people.
Total contempt for the press. They knew all along that Biden has been failing badly.
John, you act like Trump has not been president before. John, how did Trump do from 2016-2020?
@reginaford8575
27 күн бұрын
Great question. He did excellent!!! Trump 2020
@reginaford8575
27 күн бұрын
Trump 2024!!! 2020 stolen😅😅
@jeffreyiancampbell842
27 күн бұрын
Have Jason Riley back on to talk about it.
@douglasjones4824
27 күн бұрын
@@reginaford8575 No, Trump was absolutely terrible.
@karennorris7880
27 күн бұрын
He did terrible.
John showing his true colors. It's a shame that he's so blind to his own bias.
@reginaford8575
27 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@Seekthetruth3000
26 күн бұрын
He suffers from TDS.
"he continuously lied the whole time", I keep hearing anti-Trump people say that, can I get some examples of his lies? were they objective lies, or subjective exaggerations?
@johnpatmos1722
27 күн бұрын
Trump definitely engages in hyperbole, but I scratch my head trying to find the lies.
@user-gm1ee2hq6d
27 күн бұрын
trump 2024
@brreezy421
27 күн бұрын
The every1 wanted roe v wade overturned claim was a whopper and pretty funny but that's who trump is. It's either great or terrible. No in between. Biden had to drop out of the 1988 presidential race for plagiarism and lying about his academics so get out of here with honest guy lol. At debate, one of the many lies, saying the border patrol endorsed him
@brittneywitherspoon8530
27 күн бұрын
Here’s an example…when discussing abortion, Trump said “They will take the life of a child even after birth.” Abortion does not involve ending the life of a born baby…it ends a pregnancy before a baby is born, so Trump’s claim is an objective lie.
@GUAMANIANable
27 күн бұрын
@@brittneywitherspoon8530 He was referencing Virginia Governor Ralph Northam's answer to a question about proposed legislation that would have allowed abortions up until birth if certain conditions were met. The quote reads: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
Wonder why McWhorter never gives samples of Trump lies when there are sooooo many.
@aarondavid826
27 күн бұрын
are you insinuating the he doesn't lie?
@karennorris7880
27 күн бұрын
Because they are completely obvious and transparent!
@warrenjarratt6659
27 күн бұрын
A few examples please.
@onlytruth1776
26 күн бұрын
Trump actually tells more truth than people realize just look them up. Pennsylvania Democratic senator I believe, she had a proposal/bill/law for abortion all the way till birth and after. You can find the Senate hearing, many Dem leaders supported this and agreed with it. Border patrol supported endorsed Trump not Biden. They posted on X before the debate was over that they didn't endorse Biden. I've heard many people say Trump lies, but no one has said what exactly was the lie. TRUMP 2024 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 please post any lies from Trump during the debate. I can tell you several Biden did, and some made no sense. 😂😂😂😂😂
I notice that you do not got on to describe even one lie trump told. If he told so many, I would think there would be power there. Just one.
@brittneywitherspoon8530
27 күн бұрын
Maybe John did…wait until the full episode is up. But even if he didn’t, Glenn watched the debate and is aware of the lies that John is referring to, so why would they need to spend time doing a deep dive into the specifics of said lies when that’s not the focus of the conversation?
@seanmahoney2755
27 күн бұрын
@@brittneywitherspoon8530 Yeah, why do that?
@seanmahoney2755
27 күн бұрын
@@brittneywitherspoon8530 why not expose dirty the and dangerous lies? TRUMP is a dangerous psychopath. Why not expose the dangerous lies he spews? Oh, I get it. Lies. Yup. He’s a LIAR. Adorable.
@brittneywitherspoon8530
26 күн бұрын
@@HarryF-tz5fo But folks have, though. I believe John mentioned Trump lying about (or at least not offering any tangible evidence to support his claim) other countries sending their mentally ill people to the U.S., as if that's some sort of specific/intentionally government initiative of these countries. Regardless, are people not capable of doing their own due diligence to find examples of Trump's lies? And let's be honest...even if John and Glenn and/or others gave a detailed account of every lie Trump told, it would be in vein. It's not like that would change the mind of anybody who intends on voting for Trump (myself included), so why get triggered over folks not wasting their time doing a deep-dive analysis on Trump's lies?
@user-bg7km4ij7f
26 күн бұрын
@@brittneywitherspoon8530Because you keep lying about lies….
Trump told a lot of truths. The border, without question is the perfect example of one of those truths. Even if Biden could express himself, he would have no comeback on that.
@iamkesha.
27 күн бұрын
Too many people call information they do not like lies.
@ericfransen4371
26 күн бұрын
@@iamkesha. 100! A lie is an attempt to deceive. Two ideas which differ does not mean an attempt to decieve. One describes a top view of a pyramid with visible side while another says they see a square. Both are correct but incomplete because they are accurate descriptions from two limited points of view of the same cube.
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
he told some truths and he also told some harmful lies, one of which was that he won the election. On election night, while the votes were being counted, he said he won. It is not even plausible that he would have some inside knowledge on that. He also said he had “perfect” phone calls when if you listen to his call, it’s auite clear that he was trying to strong arm the secretary of state of just “find” him one more vote than he needed to win. Habitual liars are dangerous people because people who fall for the lies can be led to commit terrible actions.
@blakereid5785
25 күн бұрын
I don’t think Trump tells truths or lies, he’s just making his point. The point is “i care about this thing, and this thing is important.” Hes performing. Border crossings ARE crazy right now, but trump was making the same hubbub in 2015 when they had only been falling for like 10 years.
@_Vengeance_
24 күн бұрын
@@blakereid5785 He was still right though: even with illegal border crossings not being as high as Obama's first term (though they were slowly creeping back up in Obama's second term), illegal border crossings were still several hundreds of thousands per year when the aim should be 0 (LEGAL border crossings are fine to a certain amount, but never illegal ones, no exception: even if they succesfully get across illegally, they should be kicked out once found). There will always be ways found such as by hiding in car compartments, but those methods are slow and not many people are willing to act as a mule for that. Hundreds of thousands though only happens when they can just walk/swim over the border unimpeded, which absolutely should be fixed.
Glenn, John: I've been asking, "whose been making these decisions for several years." Journalism has failed us.
@beuller7
27 күн бұрын
Well said sir. More so than Biden, the media all got undeniably exposed that night. They’ve been running cover for this administration since the last election.
@user-th8cn2wn3u
26 күн бұрын
You presume we have had journalism recently, we haven' for a long time.
John, respectfully, what are the lies Trump told? And did Biden tell any lies?
@lesterscates774
21 күн бұрын
What LIES!!!!😮😮😮
@maccam5821
12 күн бұрын
@@lesterscates774 Yes, what lies?
Shocked that Glenn was shocked.
@craigbacks
27 күн бұрын
I’m not. John is a legend in his own mind. Educated people can be STUPID.
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
Glen was shocked about Trump when he refused to leave office, pretending that he had won the election.
Dr Mcwhorter sir, the presidents job is to express himself. The presidency is the public expression of national and foreign policy. It doesn’t matter what’s in his heart of hearts or locked behind that addled visage, only how the president can communicate.
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
I want a president who does not express himself in the way that Trump does. I don’t want a president who is constantly communicating lies and pitting people against one another. I am fine with getting through the election and having Harris take over for Biden. That is what a VP is for. I don’t want someone who sounds strong but underneath is the mess that Trump is.
I have to wonder what rock you've both been hiding under. You were actually surprised? That's almost unbelievable.
@user-bg7km4ij7f
26 күн бұрын
Two highly intelligent men consuming low IQ mainstream media. Both living in the bubble of academia 🤷🏽♂️?
With Trump it's lies, whereas any other politician it's an exaggeration.
@joeruiz4010
27 күн бұрын
No. If a Democrat echoes the same words as a Republican, it becomes 'The Truth'. It's DOUBLE SPEAK.
@melodydunn4546
27 күн бұрын
Is this sarcasm?
@FUToob
27 күн бұрын
Sorry about your typo and complete reversal of the truth.
@ericpeterson5935
27 күн бұрын
@@melodydunn4546 Just truth. Trump exaggerates like any other politician, but the media holds him to a different standard.
@ericfransen4371
26 күн бұрын
@@ericpeterson5935 true. A standard like no other they hold him to, so high you'd have to be on Mount Everest to see it even you would not believe it is so high, higher than Hunter even ;)
A day or two after the debate I left a comment on one of their earlier Trump talks saying that, in order to maintain his credibility, John had to come on and acknowledge that if Trump’s intellectual capacity is insufficient for the presidency (that was JW’s claim to brush off accusations of simple TDS) then that is certainly true of Biden as well. And I have to give him, at least, partial credit on that. He is admitting here that Biden is unfit for the job. However, you’ll notice how casually he shrugs off that fact as compared to his seething animosity toward the idea of Trump as president, who John has unironically stated should be “un alived”. I suggested in my comment that real issue is that Trump is just deeply unacceptable on a personal level to a certain type of prim, fussy technocrat like John (and Sam Harris as another example). I think that point has now been proven beyond a doubt. There’s short clip of Jordan Peterson opining on this phenomenon titled “Why Trump Drives Liberal Elites Crazy.” It’s a good watch for some additional context to John’s state of mind.
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
why should a habitual liar (all politicians lie, but Trump takes it another level) who has made clear that he does not think laws should apply to him, be an acceptable choice? If that behavior is okay with the a person, what does that say?
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
@@m.g.3021 gaslight alert!
@bencopeland3560
26 күн бұрын
@@m.g.3021 this is just completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
Trump critics throw around the word "lies" very loosely, while they give his opponents wide birth when it comes to uttering falsehoods. Could John for once go line by line through both debaters' responses and compare/contrast to give at least the appearance of some objectivity?
the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one. that goes for John and our government
So what did he lie about? You said he lie after lie but you didn't name any of the lies
@iamkesha.
27 күн бұрын
Exactly. The last comment I mentioned some of the other guys lies, that comment was removed.
@douglasjones4824
27 күн бұрын
According to Trump, abortion is capable of being facilitated post birth. He actually uttered such nonsense. That's one lie, and there were many others, but please explain that one for me.
@ThenISaidHey
27 күн бұрын
@@douglasjones4824 they kill the baby minutes after birth and call it abortion...look it up
@iamkesha.
27 күн бұрын
@@douglasjones4824 Just because you do not know what’s going on in other states don’t make what’s happening a lie. Maybe you should look up the VIDEO of the former governor of Virginia when he explained the law about ‘making the baby comfortable’ after birth if the mother no longer wants the child, aka infanticide. Also, look up California law that have no limits and adds up to 28 days AFTER birth. Last one, the law US Congress ‘women’s healthcare law’ that passed in the house under Nancy speakership, also didn’t have a limit. And there are other states that passed state laws that do not have a limit. Name some more of what you/they call ‘lies’ because I’m sure there is an explanation that boils down you not knowing of it.
@williamhaun7350
26 күн бұрын
@@douglasjones4824 Go listen to Governor Northam of Virginia
You didn’t need to be close to Biden to know about this. It’s been obvious for years.
McWhorter, who until very recently I deeply respected, sounds like my liberal father. After the recent debate, he and I were chatting on the phone about it, and he was fuming. ''Biden was terrible. But Trump was lying the whole time!'' Oh, yeah, Dad. Which lies in particular did Trump tell? *Silence...*
@Lulu-vi4wb
14 күн бұрын
I’m confused too. People kept saying Trump lies continuously. He exaggerates many things, and may be lying a few things here and there, but continuously?
Nobody would pick Biden to manage their Taco Bell.
@cablenewsfanatic5634
27 күн бұрын
Or their lemonade stand for that matter.
John asserted that Trump just told a continuous stream of lies, but didn't give much in the way of specifics. I'd be curious to hear what he has to think, although I doubt I'd be much impressed.
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
i would say trump exaggerates and stretches facts into generalizations............ biden just lies
I was in the DC intelligence community during the last years of the Reagan Administration. I was in the room when some of my CIA colleagues acknowledged that they no longer took any issues needing Executive approval to the president, but to the vice-president because of Reagan's lack of mental cognizance. I wasn't behind such closed doors at any of the other agencies at the time, but I would expect they, too, had stopped taking matters to Reagan. In this case, we've already seen that Lloyd Austin didn't think it was necessary to let his immediate supervisor know he would be out of contact for several days. What other senior bureaucrats are also already leaving Biden out of the loop?
@monember2722
25 күн бұрын
However, at no point while he was president, was Reagan in the condition The Biden is in now.
John, Clinton did the same thing in the 90s and got away with it.
If you were a union worker would you want Biden negotiating your next contract for you? If you're an athlete or actor would you hire him as your agent? Or would you rather it was Trump? Choose one. Sorry, there is no other choice. It's Biden or Trump negotiating on your behalf. Not real complicated now, is it?
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
I would NEVER want a habitual, self absorbed liar, who thinks laws don’t apply to him, negotiating for me. I would never hire Trump and would want him as far away as possible from me. No ultimate good can come from that.
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
@@m.g.3021 trump would take na salary, joe would take an extra 10% under the table plus his salary
@geo525252
26 күн бұрын
@m.g.3021 Biden has a history 50 years long of lying, plagiarizing, and exaggeration of his own accomplishments. Mountains of evidence easy to find. Your willful ignorance of that fact is astounding
@m.g.3021
25 күн бұрын
@@peetky8645 which one is asking his fans to pay his legal bills?
Democrats need to quit worrying. The fix is in.
You can't tell if Bidet is lying because either what he says doesn't make sense or you cannot understand what he is saying.
Now we know why the debate was held this early. This was a “test run”. The Dems have enough time to recover/pivot. Imagine if Biden would have treaded water and survived, and then had this type of performance in debate #2.
Dear McWhorter, name one lie he told🤔🤔🤔
😂😂Biden said that the Border Patrol endorsed him😂😂
@Lulu-vi4wb
14 күн бұрын
Biden was beyond lying, he is delusional at this juncture.
Wow. Just wow. I hate Trump, to hell with everything else no longer works.
Glenn, John: I was not surprised. I get my news from KZread. You guys must get your news from the mainstream media.
What I don’t hear many people talking about is the inevitable trajectory of people in Biden‘s condition. Once someone reaches the point that Biden is at mentally, they almost invariably decline very quickly. Within one year he will be completely incapacitated.
@FUToob
27 күн бұрын
And since he is likely to not drop out of the "race," we'll get "Cacklemala" as Pres., they hope.
"inarticulate" lol.... he's severely senile
McWhorter is sounding increasingly ridiculous.
@matthewkilbride1669
27 күн бұрын
Which begs the question why you continue to listen.
Debates are the only time we get to see the candidates thinking on their feet.
Still waiting for a list of actual lies. It would be short.
I don’t know. We’ve seen how senile he really is. Which means that someone else is running the country. If you get rid of the debate entirely you lower the bar even further. We’ll have candidates who will no longer need to think through, and clarify what their position is. We’ll be left with optics and maybe charisma while all the running the country will be done by aides and consultants. It’s already happening but I argue it would get even worse.
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
The bar was lowered to the ground in even having Trump as a candidate. Can’t go any lower than that.
Had the roles been reversed I suspect John would be enraged that this was a presidential candidate. Not a word about the specific lies or the plagiarists lies either. Then there is the ignored diary,never mentioned.
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
what is worse, some one who copies someone else’s text word for word and pretends he wrote it, or someone who claims he won an election on election night while the votes are still being counted, and then gets half the country believing (or deluding themselves) that he won. The aftermath of that is people marching to the capital and trying to take it over, on Jan 6? In addition to that, telling lies and having his people tell lies that put the lives of election workers in Jeopardy. Also, trying to steal the votes of everyone did not vote for him. And if you say that this did not happen, I will tell you that Fox News did not pay out over 3/4 of a billion dollars for nothing. That payment was made for deliberately telling lies. Oh, lastly, it’s been claimed that Trump had someone else take his college exams. I didn’t see that happen myself but I sure saw Trump lying about the election, as well as his “perfect” phone calls.
John just won't come off of it. Give up now, John, it's over!
Reading some of the reactions to the surprise of these two gents’ of Biden’s mental status, my takeaway is that with John it’s a case of him living in a completely different world to the majority of us. A world where he doesn’t need to pay attention to things like the president’s mental capacities, just as long as he’s blue. With Glenn, I think there’s an element of theatre. He knew, but in certain company he has to play ‘the game’, which is understandable. John trotting out the constant lies narrative was disappointing if not expected. I used to rate him as an independent thinker, now he sounds like the rest of the msm. Specifics please, John otherwise I’ll accuse you of what you constantly accuse trump of: lying. Trump’s got a big mouth and he exaggerates but that’s not lying. Biden, on the other hand is all spin and deception. He beat Medicare? Wtf? And what he said about no troops dying when so many have was so insulting, it’s obvious that he doesn’t care. This has all been fascinating if a little frustrating at the same time. Am watching now just to see how much of his soul John is willing to sell before he can acknowledge that Biden’s un-votable.
John when you said he lied alot .....but know one follows -up with what the lies were 😮 if you're going acuse someone make it plain..
This is why I can't watch this channel anymore. Glenn is great. Listening to John's NBC News-brained nonsense is bad for my blood pressure.
@b03johnso
27 күн бұрын
We should be able to do both
@matthewkilbride1669
27 күн бұрын
So don't watch. Simple as that. Echo chambers exist in abundance to make you feel safe and sound and unchallenged.
@archstanton3430
26 күн бұрын
@@matthewkilbride1669 I'll bet when you're all snarky and condescending like that, it helps pump up your little ego. Good for you, champ.
@matthewkilbride1669
26 күн бұрын
@@archstanton3430 and your original comment about John wasn’t condescending? I only use snark when responding to snark.
To be clear - I am voting for RFK jr. However, on that quote about Trump saying "there were good people on both sides.." regarding the clash between racists and counter protesters - I've only within the past 2 weeks seen the footage of Trump's actual quote in which he DOES say "except for those people" (the racist group.). This story has been repeated for years and it appears to be INACCURATE. That is very frustrating to me, It's wrong to make misleading statements or lies about someone just because you don't like them. How could it take me YEARS to see the correct clip? I admit at the time I was full time in school - (9 classes) and did not see it play out in real time - but if this has been twisted for years (as it seems to have been) - that's WRONG. It also makes people not believe you (the media) in the future.
@FUToob
27 күн бұрын
If you've only seen it in the last 2 weeks, no wonder you'll vote RFK Jr.
@helenfalk3049
27 күн бұрын
Same misrepresentation about the bloodbath comment which was in regard to a particular industry, but the immediate response, repeated over and over, was that it indicated an intention to have some sort bloody revolution. You really do need to see the original statements!!
@ericfransen4371
26 күн бұрын
He said more than "those people" and maybe we did not see the same interview/press con but he did say " and I'm not talking about the kkk, white nationalists, (neo knotsees?) they should be condemned totally" (paraphrased) They did the same willful 'wag the dog' with the disinfectant (bleach/lysol) comment and beavy biases reporting supposey making fun of a reporter's disability and staring into the eclipse etc. Sad the media so often plays the role of the town gossip and social engineering mean girls. To be sure I can find it on the other side too. Interesting though now it is shown that the R's have not been over exaggerating about Biden's apparent health, the Media has been not holding back so who is telling them it is ok now?
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
glad you found the true reality. realize everyone who repeated that falsehood over the past 8 years is either a liar or too dumb to heed in the future. find better sources
@ericfransen4371
26 күн бұрын
@@josiepkat there are other emotionally reactive things he reportedly did/said but are in the same vein as this. Look up Brandon Straka and what was the thing that triggered him against Trump but like you found out it was misrepresented.
It's amazing that these guys act like it's something that happens before the debate. We have been dealing with this issue with Biden for 4 years and for John and Glen to pretend that this has not been going for 4 yrs is appalling to me.
John says the situation is “unfortunate”. The understatement of the century.
@jeffreyiancampbell842
27 күн бұрын
I would say that the Democrats since 2016 have peddled one lie after another, manufactured scandals like the Steele Dossier, James Clapper and the intelligence community shaping the elections as in the 51 experts dismissing the Hunter Biden laptop just prior to the last debate 2020. Say what you want about election denialism, polls have shown that many votes would have changed their vote had the truth of the laptop not been suppressed. The DNC manipulated the primary process in 2020 to push an already declining Biden. Who the hell has been running the show the last two years. And the media peddled the lies and brutally attacked anyone who contests the narrative. Taken as a whole, this is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime (and I am 66.)
What lies did Trump tell? "one after another" Tell us the lies.
John, you've been exposed. Stop trying to explain your derangement. Hyperbole is lying to the intolerant. Yes, John. I said it. You are intolerant. #liberalprojection
John McWhorter, perhaps some exaggeration for some bombastic effect! But "lies"?! I wish you could have or would have pointed to a specific "lie" and clarified what you thought the "truth" should have been. I'm reading the notes below and it appears most everyone shares my sentiments. It would be nice to us Glenn Loury/John McWhorter fans to know why you found it necessary to make such ad hominem remarks about President Trump.
JOHN he wasn't being inarticulate he was showing signs of dementia.
My grandfather was hiding his cognitive and memory issues pretty well. It took him leaving and not be able to find his way back home for us get the extend of it.
@rdkirk3834
27 күн бұрын
Been there, experienced exactly that with my father-in-law. When we recovered him from the sheriff's office early the next morning, he had no recollection at all than anything had happened. After that incident, his cognitive ability took a dramatically rapid downturn.
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
that is why they replicated the stage in a hangar for joes practice. unfamiliar places stress executive functions
What are the lies Trump uttered? A little specificity would be helpful.
I'm not sure where you two have been, but you HAVEN'T been watching JoJo....'cause he's been like this for years, especially during the campaign in 2020, where they hid him away when they brought in the CV19. This is who he has been.
@liedersanger1
27 күн бұрын
And that’s why he’s gotten so much done?! He has an incredible record, and it’s still building. More jobs. Low unemployment. New manufacturing plants in rural areas. New highways and bridges. Shored up veterans benefits. Declining inflation-.01% this month. Building NATO and stopping Putin. Are you aware of any of these things?
@PaulaSandridge-sz2jh
27 күн бұрын
@@liedersanger1 You are the brainwashed DEMON everyone is talking about..... come on man. Joe hasn't done anything - his handlers take care of your pipe dreams !
@excellentcomment
27 күн бұрын
@@liedersanger1 Thank you for trying to use facts & logic. The problem is that they're half-truths. Are you aware... 1. "More jobs" is the bounce back from COVID lockdown not from business growth. The whole truth is that Trump achieved 4.9% GDP growth prior to Wuhan Flu, and GDP has declined under Biden. 2. Inflation isn't 1% since Joe took office. The whole truth is it's 55% for gas and double digits for our other necessities. Biden caused inflation by flooding the economy with free money, and inflation is STILL going up. No cause for celebration. 3. NATO & stopping Putin? On the contrary, Biden started Putin. The whole truth is that Putin was stopped as long as Trump was president. As soon as Biden was elected, Putin attacked Ukraine. That's Biden s doing. Biden s weakness emboldens America's foes and worries our allies. And us.
@dtt719
27 күн бұрын
@@liedersanger1 my grocery bill has doubled since Biden took office as has my car insurance and home owners insurance. My wages didn’t, I got a 5 and 2% raise. Give me some of whatever you’re smoking. I’m worse off than I’ve ever been things aren’t great for anyone I know. If it was so wonderful than his approval rating wouldn’t be in the gutter. Most people don’t follow politics they just know everything has gotten much more expensive relative to their income
@sunnyla2835
25 күн бұрын
Yep!! I was sounding the alarm that Biden was cognitively compromised inn2019, but Dems were so effing terrified BERNIE could win, they installed AlzJoe
How in the world, after the 2020 Biden basement campaign and the many times we've seen him spaced out and/or making non-sequitur remarks before trailing off ("Well...anyways.....") could people as intelligent and as current as Glenn and John have been surprised by his debate performance?
Reinstate smyth mundt act. Make it illegal for media to propagandize the American people would be a huge step in the right direction for solving much of this.
John never fails to disappoint. TDS is a real thing. My problem w Trump during the debate was that he felt the need to challenge Biden's 6 handicap claim. Total waste of time and totally absurd.
Exactly, the attitude of Jill to him afterwards, it was so telling. Like a child making his first steps.
So disappointed to know how surprised both were on Biden’s senility. They look down their noses at many of us yet we are more aware of the truth than these guys. If they don’t have the basic facts, why listen to their discussions? They should seriously ask themselves how they were so duped. They both need a serious wake up call to their own biases that prevent them from getting the facts in the first place.
@elcidcampeador7400
25 күн бұрын
I remember the “Joe, we just need you to hang in there until November...” and they weren’t referring to November 2024. They were saying that in 2019.
John you should be a regular on morning joe with that kind of bias
Greetings Professor Loury. You are looking very well. Sincerely hope your back surgery was successful.
Rapists and criminals crossing the border is demagogic or not depending on the rape rates and crime rates per 100,000 of the respective populations, theirs and ours. They might raise the domestic rate or they might lower it.
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
inept assessment. also, tell that to their victims
What did Trump lie about?, (Sincere ask. John said he lied , so clarification should follow, does anyone know?)
@cablenewsfanatic5634
27 күн бұрын
Yeah..Jill Biden did not say.
Can you please educate me as to Trumps lies in the Debate? I hope the lies you speak of aren't the old, tired, rebutted lies about Virginia and Jan 6. If McWhorter can show that Trump really lied (28 or however many times) in the debate then McWhorter is my new hero.
What lies?
But is the effectiveness of the debater measured merely by strings of facts? The rhetorical tradition isn't grounded in bullet points, but in shaping and articulating an idea that will move the audience into agreement with it. In fact, many people are rightly skeptical of argument by numbers.
When he was describing the bullshitters vs liars thing my mind just went to every politician ever
LIKE 17? NO!! The 17-year-olds in MY FAMILY are beyond that!!! We are talking 2- and 3-year-olds. in my family. Even if I am talking with their parents (grownups) I switch to my "talking with child" mode. " JUST LIKE JILL BIDEN!!!!
Dear Sir Loury, you should release an album with just your theme music. I for one would reserve a copy even before it was out!!!
Mr. Loury, ever see the film 'Brazil'? There's a scene where a "Mr. Loury" gets called into the management office of his employer. Every time I see it, I think of you, sir.
The rise of the politics of personal destruction is a factor in limiting the quality of those who choose to participate in the electioral process.
You both need to read more conservative media. Its appalling you all didn't know Bidens condition ahead of the debate. This has not been news for a couple years, for those of us outside the liberal media bubble. I like you both, its nothing personal. Please expand your newsfeed.
Always thought provoking, honest, and articulate. Keep it up.
John, you think Biden is "good" at reading a teleprompter? REALLY?? Your standards for Biden are super low, while your standards for Trump are high. It's kind of pathetic. BTW, Clinton told bold face lies CONSTANTLY. Do you not remember, "I did not sleep with that woman!"?
@m.g.3021
26 күн бұрын
didnt Trump say he didn’t sleep with Stormy Daniels?
John I love your mind, I will always respect your thinking, but Biden is no more truthful than Trump.
I can listen to Glen and John all day.
I’d love to hear you guys take on the subject of what needs to happen to bring quality candidates to the top of both parties
Yes. It has become a horror show. The two parties and the largely uninformed electorate have led us to this place in history. Whoever wins, I don't anticipate the next 4 years to improve.
I didn't like what Trump said about immigrants. Not all of them are bad people. Some have contributed greatly to our economy and to society.
@onlytruth1776
26 күн бұрын
He was talking about Illegal Aliens not law abiding immigrants. His wife is from another country, come on just do research stop listening to people that just say he lied, maybe they're lying. 😂😂😂 I can tell exactly what Biden lied about. 1. Border patrol did not endorse hom. 2. Biden lies about inflation. 3 He had no idea what to even talk about, looking lost, incoherent so anything he says is questionable 4. He said Trump told people to inject bleach, he never said that, Trump asked Fauci if that would work, it was a question. Back when nobody knew how to fight it. 5. Biden tries to take credit for 35.00 insulin that was Trump that initiated that. 6. Trump Ooeration Warp speed to find a vaccine, Biden and Harris said they would never take it, then tried acting like they fixed Covid. 7. This also goes with job creation and inflation, Bidens policy and job returning is a false stat he uses, his inflation has also forced many Americans to take secondary jobs inflating stats for job creation. 8. Biden lied about Trump stating policies Dems push for abortion at full term, and some states actually have conditions for after birth DNR. Its between the mother and Dr. This is sick, sick.
@ericfransen4371
26 күн бұрын
He didn't say all were.
What US President has been a vestal virgin ?
Primaries haven't been the same since the early 70s. Nowadays they are more like a fencing match. Everybody is trying to score a "you're no John Kennedy" moment. I stopped watching the primaries and conventions long ago.
In about 4 spots below I present an AP link that factchecks the debate. This was in response to the complaint that McWhorter did not list the lies. For that matter, incidentally, neither did Loury.) It worries me greatly that people do not know the difference between truth and fact. A very quick google led me to this link. If you do care to know the truth, look up the information. It's readily available.
OMG! You think the average adult talks to a 17-year old the way Jill Biden talks to the PRESIDENT? I may talk to my SEVEN year-old granddaughter that way, but not her nine-year-old sister. No teenager of sound mind would willingly accept being spoken to like "Doctor Jill" did.
@peetky8645
26 күн бұрын
i thought more like a three year old
@mickeyd4038
26 күн бұрын
@@peetky8645 you're probably right. I haven't had any need to speak to the 7-year-old that way for quite a while.
Trump also said, about illegal immigrants, "They're professional mountain climbers". It is obvious that what he means when he says "They are ..." is "Some of them are ..." People should pay attention.
What do you say now John? Are you happy or sad?
It's a Punch and Judy show. At this point, you have to assume incompetence is a feature, not a bug. Massive tax revenue from employment, seemingly endless debt, controlled by money and paid for by workers, and the flies are buzzing. We know what kind of government we have here.
John's reaction was to type. I feel like I could have written it for him. Yawn. Glenn. You were shocked? You need to get a broader set of sources, Pollyanna.
Who is usually driving the ship of state? One could argue it is not the president (Biden or Trump) but his team, their think tanks and the donors and so on.
Sorry if you watch any equivalent debate either in the primaries or in a foreign country, none of the candidates ever answer questions put it to them, but instead pivot to their own talking points and lie through their teeth, as did the candidates in this debate. The notion that Trump is unique among politicians on account of being a liar is so demonstrably false as to be either spin or delusion
Glenn Loury 2024!
Just saying that someone lies is one thing, but I wish you could have elaborated some of the so-called lies of the evil orange man. Just seems like you're making excuse for your bad choice but the president of our country
This is a very unique situation regarding both candidates. We have had four years of the former prez Trump and now four years of the current prez. Was the country or even you performing better under Trump or Biden?
trump 2024
@FUToob
27 күн бұрын
4EVA ;)
Trump genuinely loves this country and that’s more than can be said about 90% of our politicians. He was a game show host who they loved until he wasn’t on there team. He’s got my vote.
John, you do not have Trump Derangement Syndrome, you articulate your issues with him with great reasons as to why you feel the way you do. Whereas I disagree with you, I respect your perspective. I respect that you do not put down those who are in Trump's camp. This is why I watch you both. That and because you both represent some of my points of view. Have a great day!
Just curious…..What do you consider to be an acceptable level of lying ?
I expect that people who teach at a university level have an understanding off hyperbole and nuance that at least meets what a reasonable and average person would understand, regardless of how you feel about a person.
That's the best our two parties can offer, apparently....