REACTION! RUSH Natural Science LIVE 1997 Test For Echo Tour
REACTION! RUSH Natural Science LIVE 1997 Test For Echo Tour
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No matter how much my top ten Rush song list moves around, this will always be in it.
@johnjackson8228
Жыл бұрын
It has to be.
This was their last tour before taking a hiatus due to Neil’s double tragedy. They came back stronger though.
The entire 'Permanent Waves' album. Six of the most epic Rush songs ever. My personal favorite Rush album (sorry 'Moving Pictures’;it is what it is).
When asked in an interview, Alex said Natural Science was one of his favorite songs to play. Geddy's is Working Man.
@ericvonsteuben7533
Жыл бұрын
And don't quote me, but I believe Neil's is Animate.
@davep8221
Жыл бұрын
He also says it's one of his most challenging.
@bobcarn
Жыл бұрын
@@ericvonsteuben7533 I almost said that, but I wasn't sure if it was really is favorite for playing in concert or not. But I know what you mean. He did pick that song out as being one he felt was exceptional. It's a great song. It was always a pleasure to hear it live.
@itsmedrooms6071
Жыл бұрын
If that’s true for Alex it makes it more curious as to why he deleted the second guitar solo. A few lines of lyrics were also dropped. For those reasons I prefer the studio track.
@bobcarn
Жыл бұрын
@@itsmedrooms6071 I love the studio track too. But I can understand why they tweaked it for live performances. It's a long song. They have a lot of long songs and by cutting a little bit out of a couple longer ones, they then have room to squeeze in another whole song. It's why things like Cygnus X-1 only gets partial playback.
Rush "LIVE" I have nothing more to say. Okay, just one word... AWESOME!
My mom's always had the hots for Alex. She saw them in Toronto for this tour and LOVED the leather pants, I was still somewhat young but I specifically remember that 😂
Love love love this song!! It will always be in my top ten Rush songs. If I remember correctly I read in one of Neil's books Far and Away that on one tour he took a spill off his motorcycle and had to wear a brace on his elbow so I thing that is what is happening here. As for Alex, I love Lersxt in his leather pants!! 😍 I actually had a couple of pairs myself back in the day.
@k.h.1587
Жыл бұрын
I think that was his first tour via motorcycle, talk was he rode all the way from Toronto to the opener at hospitality point San Diego which I was at, my 2nd rush show, the first being the first leg of the tour at the sports arena in late 96.
Always strange to see Neil playing traditional grip on old songs. But this was after he spent a long time relearning how to play under Fred Gruber. If I remember correctly, when Neil played in a Buddy Rich Tribute concert, he had an issue where he learned the song from a recorded track and then the song was played slightly differently live and it threw him off. He studied how to play jazz and then incorporated traditional grip for the entire Test For Echo album. Was a big deal. There are a few videos out there of Neil playing with the big band. One from long ago and then another years later. While I can't hear the difference much, the comments have lots of jazz drummers saying what a huge difference there was in his swing playing which means he continued to practice long after those tribute albums came out. And if you like big band jazz, both of the Burning for Buddy Tribute albums are a must listen Was the first time I ever heard Simon Phillips play and was blown away by him.
@sethcashman1011
Жыл бұрын
Neil was thrown off mainly because he was in front of the horn section and couldn't hear them (or so he said). I'm sure there was more to it, as you suggested. I was at that performance. It was great to see him stick his neck out like that, but he was quite stiff. He hooked up with Freddie after noting a huge improvement in Steve Smith's playing (which is weird to say, because Smith was always one of the greatest) - mainly the grace in his physical movements - and asking Steve what happened. Smith smiled and said, "Freddie."
@Tonyr0206
Жыл бұрын
@@sethcashman1011 I met Steve at one of his performances with Vital Information a few years ago. I sat front row, about 15' from him and his kit, the whole night. What a monster player. His technique is mind blowing.
@sethcashman1011
Жыл бұрын
@Tonyr0206 very cool! I think the last couple of times I saw Steve was with the organ trio at Birdland and a couple of months later with Journey.That guy just keeps getting better!
@sethcashman1011
Жыл бұрын
@@Tonyr0206 the first time I met him was in '86, just after he was let go from Journey. He was still kind of in shock and just about to go out with Steps Ahead, if I remember correctly.
@itsmedrooms6071
Жыл бұрын
Simon Phillips is an amazing player. He uses an open handed style of playing that takes a lot of technique to pull off. I’m a big fan of his playing especially with Jeff Beck and Pete Townsend, but he’s great on everything he does.
One of my favorite scientific songs of theirs and tour. We getting closer to Test for Echo! ⏳️🗓📈😎
I was able to see Rush a dozen times during the 80s and 90s. The last leg of this tour was my final time and it was one of their best and certainly their longest at 3 hrs plus change. They ended the show with Cygnus x1 book 2 Hemispheres pretty much in its entirety minus the vocals and yeah...it was pretty sick! People were going ballistic. Really left the place smoldering...and yup..Alex must have had a trunk full of those same pants.
Love this clip. Great version. And what's better is I was there. Great seats too...near the front :))))))
"they're on fire right now! Except for those pants" 😂😂😂
Neil always had issues in the later tours. Between riding the motorcycle, playing three hours a night with that kind of power, and just plain getting older. On R40 tour he developed problems with his feet, and he could barely walk for part of the tour, yet he still played with full force for each show and still road the bike every day. Astonishing really.
I saw this tour 2nd row Albany , NY …it was special because they played this and 2112 in it’s entirety……I conversed with Geddy on stage he asked the crowd “ how you doing tonight” he was right in front of me and I yelled “ aaawww were great “ and replied “ ok just checking”
Laughed so hard! “Those pants should be set on fire”.
When it was living in vegas in the later 90's I scored 4 second row tickets for test f echo! Bucket list jason!! Also, from a modern drummer article at this time Neil said we had a piece of paper up on the wall that said " alone we are an ass, but together we are genius".
You’ll love their last 4 studio albums. Yes I am nclude Feedback as a Rush studio album
@carlgibbons5777
Жыл бұрын
Didn't really care for Feedback.
@Newworldman66
Жыл бұрын
Classed as an EP rather than an album.
Love this track. It flies by unlike a 9:20 second song.
This was arguably my favorite tour I saw them on. Top notch, Alex's pants non-withstanding. Cheers!
Spot on comments. The Signals and earlier period of Rush has so much gold on every album (with NP). There are also a lot of great songs from the later albums. But, if you ask some random guy to name a Rush song, I guarantee it will be from Signals or earlier period. FYI - StickHits has a live version of Ghost of a Chance performed in Germany - 1992. Cheers from St Pete.
Don’t mean to brag but I saw them perform this song in 1980. Alex played it with an acoustic on a stand for the first part before playing the rest on the electric. It was epic just like this performance. The light show was less. There was a projector screen image like one was in a pipe near the ocean and it pulls away when the song gets heavier. I forget what happens throughout most of it but image comes back then smaller and expands at the conclusion of the song.
Hey Justin, if there is one thing I do enjoy about your reactions to Rush music is that you are not bullshitting. Perhaps, a lot of diehard Rush fans do not like that, but I find it very honest and sincere and that is how it should be. Now, recalling your initial reactions to Rush, you did not seem to be very fond of Geddy’s voice.....it is strange and unique, but somehow, it goes with their complex music so perfectly, no one else would fit in that spot. This precise reaction of yours, in particular, I enjoyed the most since it was so clear how much you dig this tune, during your studio reaction and then in this masterful performance. I have to agree with you that this is top level and nothing even comes close. This is the band that shaped my life and my music likes since one night, back in 1981, in Houston. I am from Venezuela and after returning to my country, I knew I brought back with me my most precious gift, after my sons, Rush’s music and lyrics.....what a gift from Neil, Alex and Geddy. Ever since, I have not been able to let it go and, frankly, I do not want to....I asked my sons to play Xanadu, Exit Stage Left, during my memorial.....I imagine that is how going to the other side sounds like......
@JustinPanariello
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Luis! Yeah I didn't get into Rush when I was younger cause I didn't like Geddy's voice... it's one of the interesting parts of this whole journey. I talk about it a bit during my very first Rush reaction videos from early 2021. Obviously i'm well over his voice i'm more than used to it, he sounds great often times.
Neil usually played through injuries. Well documented that he had tennis elbow, arthritis in his feet and knees. They did an interview talking about how he got trench foot so bad on one tour from motorcycle riding in the rain for 3 days that he could hardly walk. but he played every night. Geddy would get tendonitis in his fingers. Alex had arthritis so bad (still does) that he had to modify how he plays. Great job and this is one of my favorite songs they do live.
I was at this show...the full 2112 being performed was the talk of this tour...but them pulling this out was the coolest thing - and it being 1997, with so much less internet information spread, it was an actual surprise. At that point I never would have thought I'd get to see them play this, let alone nail it so hard.
@k.h.1587
Жыл бұрын
Guess I was ahead of the times. I knew the whole set list from the national midnight star email list/newsgroup in 96 for the first leg of the tour, and of course the 97 leg too. So I also knew beforehand that they edited out the art as expressions verse. Internet'ng since 95. Had it been around a few years prior I would have caught the counterparts tour, I knew they were playing that day right down the street from our rehearsal studio, but figured it would be sold out so I didn't bother. Later to find out that I probably would have gotten very good seats at the box office because they used to release good seats day of show. So test for echo ended up being my first time and my last time was their last time as well, literally.
THIS is my Rush!! They were always next level live.
One of the best songs
It's the best guys we'll ever see.
Every album they made contains a gem. If it's Permanent Waves then it would be Natural Science. But if you happened to grab Moving Pictures, then you're going to be listening to The Camera Eye, but they are both masterpieces.
Alex brought back his leather pants from the Signals Tour.😂
Amazing live performance of an amazing song. Thanks Justin.
fun to sit back and enjoy another great performance. Especially after the last few albums you reacted to.
Saw this at the (then) Ice Palace in Tampa- 11th row in front of Alex. They also did 2112, which was fantastic!
Here's Geddy's kwipment list as he put it for this tour-"P.S. For Those of you who find this stuff interesting, here is my Kwipment List for the Test For Echo tour; Basses: Fender Jazz. Amplification: Trace Elliot Quadra 4 amplifiers, Trace Elliot Gp-12 smx pre-amplifiers, Trace Elliot 1 x 18" and 4 x 10" speaker cabinets, Palmer PDI-03 speaker simulator, SansAmp model PSA-1. Keyboards: a whole big bunch! Effects: Commodore Deluxe Skake Maker Trio, Osterizer Deluxe 2-Speed Blender, Proctor-Silex Deluxe Juicit Oscillating Strainer, Frigidaire Deluxe Refrigerator, Beatrice Deluxe #2 Manual Meat Grinder, Morphy-Richards Deluxe Automatic Toaster." This is from the Rush website and official tour guide. They always did nice tour guides although I don't recall having seen one at the R40 show. I bought some swag but didn't see tour guide. They might have all been bought by the time I got to front of line.
Awesome! I was at this very show. Molson Amphitheater in Toronto. My ticket cost $48 Canadian.
Saw this show in Atlanta and this was the highlight!
Don’t get better than that!! God bless… from Texas!!
When you reach the Different Stages live album there’s a video of the Test For Echo show at the Molson Amphitheater that has most of the songs from Different Stages including them playing the whole of 2112 for the first time. Maybe you can do a mixture of audio and video like you did with A Show Of Hands? As others mentioned, you can see Neil using trad grip for part of this and he had bother on this tour with tendinitis in his elbow. His drums are huge sounding on this clip!
Like I said many times on your channel, nothing after Signals is on this level. Of course, there's here and there an occasional gem on subsequent albums. I'm glad to see you've reached the same conclusion.
About 30 feet in front of Geddy at this show, just AWESOME
This was from a show late in the Test for Echo tour, during which Neil was battling tendinitis for a lot of that tour.
This band is so good. Seen them a bunch of times always great live. Buddy of mine was a lighting tech for them I want to say late 80s early 90s. Their last album was phenomenal. No band that’s been around that long should be putting out albums that good. I agree with the jazz bass I have a vintera jazz bass fender. I used to have a copy of the Geddy one but I put active pickups in it.
They play at this level on the last record in a couple songs.
What amazing performance
Agreed, such a cool song
Neil wore an elbow brace during this tour because he was dealing with tendonitis. That is what is up with his arm. Neil always said he can play through pain, but he doesn't like it when an injury/ailment actually affects his performance or his ability to attack the drums.
I keep hammering this idea and I think you’re going to agree with me in the long run. The studio version did not get this reaction from you. Live Rush is, WITHOUT FAIL in my opinion, the BEST Rush. It’s so unfortunate you never got to see them, but at least we can find all these performances online. COUNTERPARTS next. Looking forward to it
@martyincanuckistan3635
Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% every show I went to I couldn’t believe how rich the sound was, technically superb, great stage presence. I saw Pink Floyd division bell in Vancouver only concert that came close to a rush concert
Ty for bringing me back.. So powerful musically and such meaningful lyrics for every human during these times.
Absolutely nailed that performance!! Killer song!
Rush was, is and forever will be the best band in the Universe and this is arguably their best track.
Great reaction!! You should let your wife listen to this.
This was filmed in Toronto at the the then named Molson Amphitheatre…and I was there!!!🇨🇦🇨🇦 me, my older brother and our friend! Sadly Neil’s daughter was killed one month later😢😢
I still say after sooo many years this is still one of my favourite songs from every band i listen to, top 3 easy. When I first heard this on their live album different stages I cried with emotion and still get fired up, great Justin great. !
@RogueReplicant
Жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm stoned af and weeping with emotion, even after the thousandth listen. Like Justin said: sick, ridiculous, what the f**k, insane, slaying, on fire 🔥
Always loved this performance. They were on fire during the shows I saw on the Test for Echo tour.
Neil's feel and dynamics improved a shitload after studying with Freddie. He never looked completely at ease playing traditional, but his groove and pocket were noticeably deeper.
Clockwork Angels will blow you away
They gave me 40 years of live awesomeness from the Grace Under Pressure session warm up tour through their Clockwork Angels tour. An even 50 shows along that journey and I never saw a bad show. I liked some tours more than others but having gone to so many rock shows from the late 80's into the 2000's I saw lots of duds by some of the biggest bands in history.
Thanks you
1997 was the first tour without a warmup act. They closed the 1st half with this song for a total of about 1:10. They came back out with Test for Echo and played for another 1:10. Then an encode for about 20 minutes. The acoustic sound at the beginning was a piezo pickup on that particular PRS.
That jazz bass was his favorite. He told someone in an interview when he was talking about all his basses. I would argue that exit stage left was there best.
J. Neil's body was showing the effects of years of touring. If memory serves, he had issues with his back, tendonitis in his shoulders and elbow (maybe his knees too). For those of us medical types, the brace is for lateral epicondylitis and redistributes forces away from the elbow attachment. When he was asked about his injuries, he said, (I paraphrase) If I played for the Stones, I could play indefinitely. funny but probably true. NS, one of my fav.s for sure! and remember, Rush were unlikely Rock Stars, so leather pants were standard apparel...but much more natural on Steven Tyler. lol. If" The most endangered species, the honest man Will still survive annihilation" doesn't lift you up? Not sure what might.....Great reaction, J.
@Newworldman66
Жыл бұрын
For us non medical types, it's tennis elbow, as it's much easier to remember.
The pants and Alex’s haircut says: HEY MO! Yuck yuck yuck CERTAINLY!
That tour was the first time they brought it out
One of my favorites by far and gets the best reactions as well.. I have a couple reaction vids from YT saved in a playlist . Too fun 😁
I really thought this was the highlight of the Test for Echo tour. So good live.
Preach it Brother! Even if it's to the choir. Can I tell you that moving forward in the discography you will find something "Rock Masters" like as Permanent Waves or other albums of that era? I can emphatically say YES, personally, but I cannot promise you will agree. But, it's all better than the last three albums you covered. And Geddie generally still sounds as good live for about another decade after '97. As to Alex's leather pants, I think I get your vibe, and I agree 90%. Generally no real man's man should ever wear them. But, there are two occasions where I not only find leather pants acceptable, but cool. One, if you are a motorcyclist in a colder climate like Neil Peart (but not a "Poser" weekend warrior type). Two, if you are among the greatest guitarists in the world, while playing in concert (except if it's part of an entire leather costume like KISS). I think Alex looks cool in the leather pants. This also includes these World Class guitarists I've seen wearing them on stage: Stevie Ray Vaughn, Joe Satrioni, Steve Vai, Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page.
Awesome!
My favorite Rush song.
The teacher has it on point Natural Science
One of Rush's very best tracks played in what I feel was their best decade for live performance. That's not to say that they weren't great live in the 70s 80s 00s and 10s because they were, it's just that for me the 90s was their peak.
BTW... They missed out a verse and Alex's second solo... Just FYI.
Natural Science is my number 1 song along with Jacob's ladder on PW and probably overall as well. Great great stuff.
Everyone knows that Neil was a great drummer. But unless you’re someone like Danny Carey or Mike Portnoy, you can’t really appreciate just how great he truly was.
Great reaction Justin. I prefer the versions on later tours. Live in Rio and Snakes and Arrows. Better audio quality. Geddys Jazz bass sounds brilliant on the Snakes and Arrows version. Check it out. 👍
Fire brother 🤘🤘🤘you are going to like the rest of the ride from here on out👍
Can't argue with you on that "nothing comes close to this"😆 I tell ya, something happens when they perform live. Even songs that are kinda "meh" on albums are so much better live. It was Mystic Rythms for me. To each his own. Take care ✌️
Alex has a piezo pickup built into his prs guitars so he doesnt need an acoustic, hence the two jack plugs
Those pants are genuine Saskatchewan seal skin.
@JustinPanariello
Жыл бұрын
lol
Damn I miss these cats.. RIP NEIL😞
Yeah, your mind would have been blown to see them live. And yeah people, humans make mistakes, F all the crap you got, it is what it is and whatever. I’m glad you went through with the way it came out, that’s part of your no BS vibe. I thought it was hilarious when you pinned your wife. She was not having any of it though. 😂😂😂 I hope someone does a request for the Classic Albums videos for 2112 and Moving Pictures. About 53 minutes each. I think I have two DVD’s. Maybe I’ll send you a copy. Take care and be well 😊
Whenever I hear this song live I always wonder why they deleted the second guitar solo. Other than that, it’s great of course; arguably from one of the best albums if not the best album Rush ever made.
@yes_head
Жыл бұрын
And they repeat the "Wheels within wheels..." part, which was always odd. I wondered if it was to give someone off stage time to set up a sequence or lighting cue or something. But yeah, Alex's second solo is for me an integral part of the song. It's got tons of character that fits in with that whole march section.
@k.h.1587
Жыл бұрын
And they cut the "art as expression, not as market campaigns" verse
The first two songs off "Test for Echo" are "Test for Echo" and "Driven" and for me are as strong of an album opener as anything they have done. For me, they drive hard not unlike "Natural Science".
Great tour. If I remember correctly they did almost the full side of 2112 on this tour. I think. It is really really good.
@SandyWhisker
Жыл бұрын
You’re right, it was the only tour they played 2112 in its entirety.
Definitely on fire & personally 🥰 I like the pants but..... 🤷🏿♀️ I got nothing on why the Prince Valiant Haircut! Nada! 😏 Didn't understand it back then or now! 🤭☺️🐰
Though they did get heavy again after the 80's nothing compares to their 70's and very early 80's stuff.
Hey Fellow Rush fans: I've always been curious why, in concert, they repeat that part, "Wheels within wheels in a spiral array..." Some kind of timing improvement? Technical reasons? What do you think? Any insights from the musicians out there?
I believe I watched an interview with Geddy where he said he found that bass in a pawn shop on a day off. I think he paid 250 for it.
Good band eh 🇨🇦 😁
A Roll the Bones pallete cleanser. Love Rush, but understand completely
Let’s see this song…was it made between 74-82? YES 1980 so that makes it???? SUPERIOR!
Looks like tennis elbow on Neil’s arm. I have had it.
🤘🔥
Will you be checking out the 2 links I have sent you fairly recently? Vital Signs live from 1984. Concert ending along with Finding my Way & In the Mood. The 2112 link from this '97 concert isn't necessary but it is excellent. And it's the entire song.
I agree that this is probably Rush at their peak, except for the pants…
Well yea he sounded great, it was 1997, lol. Just a bit over twenty years into their career.
They actually didn't play the whole song. Natural Science has two guitar solos. They only played the first one. 🤔
😁 I mean come on...
I still don't understand why they doubled up on "wheels within wheels". Neither is Alex's friar tuck hairdo.
Always great to see them live in different points in time, great song! Maybe during this break or when you finish Test for Echo check out 2112 from that tour, I believe it is the last time they played all 7 parts - kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ6Wl9WRepfJn7A.html. Sounds like Alex is an octave lower or something but it just sounds a lot heavier, not sure what bass Geddy is playing but it growls also.
Neil had bad tendonitis or tennis elbow at this point. he was in quite a bit of pain.
nothing wrong with leather pants