John, I have a solid background in the electrical and electronics support in the coal mining industry. The main field was research and development of power supplies for underground use. Very stringent performance parameters of course were required. Research in the feasability of lithium batteries for underground mining is not even considered. A personal experience with a lithium battery suffering thermal runaway convinced me that lithium is nothing more than an unstable and unreliable substance. It is more suitable for destructive military use. I overcharged by 20% a small lithium battery about 40mm long by 20mm diameter. There was an explosion first ,it flew of the bench and onto the floor. It was glowing red hot and no exaggeration here , it burned it's way into a ceramic floor tile. I will never be foolish enough to even consider buying an ev with any form of lithium battery.

@ianknight4333

11 ай бұрын

They don't take petrol powered vehicles in underground mines either. The fire risk of evs is not a recent revelation. Heaps of studies reported on the internet. Any time one catches fire it makes news but lots of studies say the probability of catching fire is lower than for ICEs. Yeh I know stats and the internet. They're here. Petrol heads will just have to get used to it.

@SteveEddy-od7fb

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update

I think its fair to say that some of the "nuts" should be taking Lithium as a form of medication! Great video and on point as always.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Agreed. They should be on something. Possibly an isolation wing.

@gingernutpreacher

Жыл бұрын

​@@AutoExpertJChaving worked in a mental hospital that would be unfair to people suffering from mental issues

@greevous

Жыл бұрын

That is insulting to those that actually take Lithium as they are smart enough to know they need help, some of those "nuts" probably need the full lithium metal treatment rather than just a lithium salt compound.

@greevous

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoExpertJC that would help with the reduction in nut spread.

@greevous

Жыл бұрын

@@gingernutpreacher they do have enough trouble with bad press let alone being tarred with stupidity too.

Going to get VERY expensive to insure the freighting of EVs if there are more vessels with such fires

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@MattBlack6

Жыл бұрын

I note recently in a forum EV owners complaining about the insurance cost of their electric vehicles.

@crazyfroggie6546

Жыл бұрын

And who is the insurance industry going to pass that cost on to? Yup, the customer.

@awakenotwoke1973

Жыл бұрын

Just imagine insuring one when it can be charged right next to other ones, and inside parking buildings. There's some serious potential for some pretty expensive claims.

@oldbloke204

Жыл бұрын

@@MattBlack6 Also if they're writing the things off more often after an accident due to not wanting to risk battery damage we will be going through them more often than ICE vehicles which will inevitably add to insurance costs. As long as they charge the extra to those that own them and not all of us.

Had an eSkateboard explode in my loungeroom in less than a minute the whole house was full of toxic chocking smoke my son grabbed it and chucked it out the door, where it continued to explode shooting batteries out that then exploded like little hand grenades then burning, very scary called the fire brigade to put it out and they aired the house out with big fans the smell was around for weeks. It wasn't even on charge.

@yuglesstube

Жыл бұрын

That's very concerning. I expect that insurance would regard that as a combustible, had it not been for your son's rapid action, and left you legally exposed. Scary story!

@dy6682

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a scary experience friend! Glad no one was injured!

@pamnuman1619

11 ай бұрын

The number of structure fires caused by lithium-ion batteries has almost doubled in the last two years, according to new statistics from the Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES). WA. Last year, firefighters responded to 64 structure fires caused by lithium-ion batteries, up from 34 in 2020. Firefighters have already been called to 32 of these incidents in 2023, with the State now in its busiest period of the year for residential fires.

Actually John, having a number of EVs on fire in a garage is actually good news. Surely you’ve heard the expression fighting fire with fire, eh?

Great report, you may remember the Mont Blonke tunnel fire. That was just a smoldering truck load, imagine an EV fire in a tunnel or on the Euro tunnel Express. As you say its an accident waiting to happen.

I am coming to the conclusion spontaneously combustible EV's and these types of people are a match made in heaven.

@user-cc2np7xy6w

5 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more

I am in awe of your mental strength. You had the mental energy for ten of these. I struggled to get through the first one.

I have an EV car (also a diesel van and a gasoline car), after watching your earlier video I will start avoiding parking in underground parking lots. At home and work it is parked on the street as I don't have a garage at home or at work. There´s really only a couple of places I go that have underground or indoors parking, and I rarely go there, still, it only takes once...

@NicholasOckhuisen

Жыл бұрын

it depends on the battery chemistry too, all the tesla standard range cars and the newer chinese cars now use LFP batteries which dont have cobalt, these are yet to catch fire as far as im aware and are far safter...they just did not have the battery density needed at the beginning but they have improved and are now becoming the new standard.. There will also be LFP batteries with manganese added so this will improve the battery densitiy more and still be safe.

You have moved the goalpost with the nuts you quote today, didn't think they could expand on the stupidity scale. John, you are now into the coconut scale of references.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Approaching 'peak nut' perhaps?

@tonyjourneyman1944

Жыл бұрын

I regard the macadamia as the king of nuts. Some of these are of macadamia quality.

@RalphEllis

Жыл бұрын

There is a climate emergency! Really? In reality…. US strong tornadoes have been DECREASING for 60 years (see NOAA data). Hurricanes and Typhoons have been STEADY for 45 years (see Dr Ryan Maue data). Heatwaves over 100 f have been DECREASING since the 1930s (see NOAA data). N Hemisphere snow extent has been INCREASING for 50 years. (see Rutgers snow-lab). Polar bear numbers have been increasing for 60 years. (see DR Sue Crockford data:) S Hemisphere sea-ice extent was INCREASING for 40 years, before a storm in 2017. (and extent is climbing back up again) (see NSIDC on climate4you) Ralph.

@bobmitchell8012

Жыл бұрын

Cadogan just loves the sound of his own voice.

@russlehman2070

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoExpertJC We can only hope, because, if we haven't reached the peak yet, we're doomed.

Thank you for a great video, it depresses me how much BOTH EV zealots and EV haters rarely use facts and logic but choose vitriol and low hanging arguments against eachother. It does not drive the debate in a beneficial direction. You bring the right perspective.

@grahamstrouse1165

Жыл бұрын

John always brings the science.

@maisydaisy9970

Жыл бұрын

" It does not drive the debate in a beneficial direction." There's no debate, the world is not culturally ready for battery cars and internal combustion engines can run extremely clean. eg Mercedes F1 car.

@rickagfoster

Жыл бұрын

@@grahamstrouse1165 Except when he doesn't. LFP thermal runaway rate is 1.5C per minute. Not enough for spectacular fires he's talking about. Ohhhh ya, he conveniently skipped that part of the study.

@shaneervin1305

11 ай бұрын

And John evidently has not yet read 2 leading counter-arguments to the so-called “climate emergency”, namely: • Fossil Future (Alex Epstein), and • Apocalypse Never (Michael Schellenburger) John has bought into the IPCC message without analyzing how the core conclusions of the scientific papers get distorted and cherry-picked by the summary process, and then again by the media.

@leisuresuitlaz1710

11 ай бұрын

​@maisydaisy9970 that's because all Formula 1 cars that are used today are hybrids and use an electric motor as well

About access to multi story car parks for any kind of fire. The roof clearance is generally around 2 metres, no full size fire appliance is getting in anyway!

This channel is better than going to a therapist. The lulz here really do provide stress relief after a hard week 😂

Great scientific education on modern automotive battery technologies, great work, thank you :-)

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@jjtompson5914

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoExpertJC Enovix BrakeFlow stops Lithium ion thermal runaway........ kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zpua0riTls6xk5c.html

@RalphEllis

Жыл бұрын

There is a climate emergency! Really? In reality…. US strong tornadoes have been DECREASING for 60 years (see NOAA data). Hurricanes and Typhoons have been STEADY for 45 years (see Dr Ryan Maue data). Heatwaves over 100 f have been DECREASING since the 1930s (see NOAA data). N Hemisphere snow extent has been INCREASING for 50 years. (see Rutgers snow-lab). Polar bear numbers have been increasing for 60 years. (see DR Sue Crockford data:) S Hemisphere sea-ice extent was INCREASING for 40 years, before a storm in 2017. (and extent is climbing back up again) (see NSIDC on climate4you) Ralph.

I'm so glad I discovered you, you are instructive and witty and I like your colorful language!

I love your dedication to facts. Feelings are just a personal delusion and as such should be ignored when facts say otherwise.

@rambleon3698

Жыл бұрын

I love his dedication to wives. The more the merrier.

@jeremyashford2115

Жыл бұрын

The facts end where the appeal to authority takes over.

@beatreuteler

Жыл бұрын

Since there isn't any fact out as of yet on what caused the fire in all this stuff there's no such thing called "dedication to facts". On both sides it's all about speculation.

@fluffydyson2406

Жыл бұрын

Largely agree, but I think you're being a bit harsh on feelings...also you're presuming that what is a fact is as obvious as a jar of washers on the shelf.

@havenmist2216

10 ай бұрын

Has he ever taken on the actual issues of climate change, of CO2 saturation, feedback etc ... is so can you share vide title, would like to watch.

If today is not off to a good start for you, I can whole heartedly recommend a session on this screen with a video by George Carlin. This man was an absolute comedy icon. Somebody once said, 'humour is good medicine', well George's humour is the whole damn drug store.

Can confirm that the big Cat 1 fire trucks, RFS or Fire + Rescue in NSW carry around 3,000lt of water. Hope the fire is near a hydrant.

@timblaxland294

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Except any large underground carpark with fire sprinklers (>40 cars, per NCC) will have at least a verified Grade 3 water supply and external booster connections for sprinklers and hydrants. If that carpark is under a large building (>25m high) then it will have at least 25,000L on-site water storage for sprinklers (usually in the 50-70,000L range) and 25,000L for hydrants, in a Grade 1 water supply configuration. It is the small (

I grab a glass of red and kick back every time your videos release. It really is the high point of my week allowing me to laugh uncontrollably. Please keep this content coming. Side note, it's also informative! Cheers

I love the howls of anguish from the mugs who have bought into the very expensive EV con. They just hate people pointing out all the problems and dangers associated with EV’s and won’t accept any criticism.

@bbwolf9925

Жыл бұрын

I have been driving a small EV since 2016 and would never go back to the hassle of ICE. Firstly the cars I have owned include three Jaguars (one a 5.3l V12), a 4 litre Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2 Ford Granadas and several Cortinas, Rovers, Vauxhall Omegas, Mitsubishi and Mazdas and dozens of others in 50 years of driving in the UK and Europe (and occasionally in the US). My only complaint is that the car has limited range (from new) but this is more to do with my wife's preferences. I don't love the car because the French stereo/radio is insane (though the sound is good when it works properly) but it is comfortable fast, convenient and a pleasure to drive: it is still excellent after seven years and it is as good now as it was new. It carries a surprising amount of cargo and is comfortable for four or five adults. I have never run out of charge and it always delivers more range than I expect. I drive within the speed limit as i often have a child in the car but I accelerate away from the lights faster than almost every other car. I have enjoyed driving for work and pleasure all my life and feel sorry for all those who talk shit about electric cars. Forty years ago I spent weekends repairing cars on the front drive, like my Dad before me: I was twelve when I first assisted him in changing a gearbox in his taxi and I was well into my thirties before I could afford to take my motors to professional mechanics. BTW my car costs less then £100 per year to service and the only costs are tyres. Mine is not a particularly "good" electric car and my next will be much better but it beats the shit out of all those petrol and diesel money pits. I have not mentioned climate change because although I believe it is a looming diaster, it is not why I drive electric: I do that because it is better and cheaper.

@Neojhun

Жыл бұрын

LOL that is some brainwashed ignorance to sell Fear. Love how you described it as the "expensive EV CON (job)". This EV Fire propaganda has done the rounds many times and will soon be go stale. This topic has been used many times to attack EV only to blow over when examples run out because how rarely they occur. BEVs are just as fire prone as DIESEL cars and no where as likely as Petrol Cars. The real EV Con is the Fire fear mongering all over again, it's getting tiring.

@hobaho

Жыл бұрын

I feel sympathy for those who have been conned & I'm sure there are some. As you say, videos like this powerfully point out things MUST be addressed to make EVs safer. At some point, manufacturers, lawmakers and the community will ignore at their peril. Things would have been similar when motor vehicles were first introduced and we considered leaving the horse and carriage behind. I suspect the transition to EVs will be just as quick. Let's watch and see.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

11 ай бұрын

@@bbwolf9925 Hope it's worth it when a KWH of electricity goes up past a gallon of gas in price... Once they have you hooked, they TAX... and GOUGE and there's just no ending. ;o)

@Hooliosis

18 күн бұрын

@@bbwolf9925it’s great that it is better and cheaper for you, but being better and cheaper for one is not for everyone. I cannot find 1 EV that would suit me and would be cheaper in its lifetime than my current vehicle.

I watched a video from about the Fremantle Highway from some other channel right after the fire started, and I'm a regular viewer of this channel. Now KZread thinks I'm obsessed with EV fires 🔥

@grahamstrouse1165

Жыл бұрын

Been watching the “What’s Happening with Shipping” by any chance? 🙂

As always John, appreciate your practical, common sense, fact based views. Love the humour!

Thankyou John. I have a Lifepo4 project at the moment. I was putting in safety systems already, however as a result of this video I will be adding in an extra alarm / warning / cut off system well below 80 degrees C. Thanks for the videos.

This EV topic is very simple to me. I can renew the energy needed in my car in 5 minutes or less nearly anywhere in my country. To even think that it would take 12 hours to get to maybe 80% renewed at limited locations, 22 minutes at very limited locations, is beyond comprehension.

I'm making this comment before I even get past the first minute and a half of the video. 'God' help us all. If the situation wasn't so serious if would be funny. Any how, thanks for your continuous attempts to educate the listeners. Keep up the good work.

Thats the funny thing about passionate extreme Greens. They invariably shy away from the FACTS 😂😂

@simoncrooke1644

Жыл бұрын

Most extremists shy away from the facts. It's a prerequisite to holding an extreme position.

Thank you John, so important knowledge to share in communities. I'm a science writer, firstresponder, work in civil protection and appreciate your expertise. Regards from Germany and respect to Down Under. - Susan Ville

Thanks for taking the 45 mins (plus post production) to make a 25min video. You have quite a few of those indestructible G-shock mudmasters! Can read it a mile a way. That's the color combo I bought. Your the only youtuber I've seen with such good taste, puts a smile on my face every video.

I thought your piece on the 500 ev meltdown on the cargo ship had the poetic flare of Lawson or Patterson and stands with them in our literary canon.

I had an EV Numptard try to dispute that there’s 500 electric vehicles on that burning boat, the ‘Dutch Oven’.

On the topic of big boats causing environmental damage, everyone should also look into what happens when the front falls off (Clarke and Dawe).

Thanks for your videos John. They are very instructive. Cheers 🍻

John, Great stuff and to those of us that fly electric RC airplanes, we have been dealing with thermal runaway fires from the beginning of the electric models powered by same. Rather depressing to have your expensive model burst into flame during a flight. Not a week goes by without at least one battery fire. We get a warning though.....if you pay attention, you can see the battery case showing swelling.....a precurser to a runaway. Going further, the suppliers have told us for years to not charge near anything flammable and we are instructed to keep the batteries in a steel ammo box, again, away from anything flammable. I have been surprised from the onset of lithium powered cars, that this is considered a 'safe' alternative to petrol. We keep a steel drum to throw a smoldering battery into so we don't start the woods on fire. Love your stuff from the U.S.A.........keep it up!

Great video John, I love the way you put your point across with straight talking. You say you don’t want be PM of Australia, good, come to the UK and be our PM our government is of the same standard as yours or maybe worse 😂

There's a channel on here, Electric Vehicle Man, who won't hear a word said against EV's. He's just told me he has owned EV's for 8 years, he thinks the sun shines out of their exhaust pipes.

@malph9216

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, he's a sanctimonious pratt.

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

He also owns 2 ICE cars as well, but you probably weren't aware of that......

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

@@malph9216 Do you know him personally?

Thank you sir, i think this way to tackle the downpour of comments is a very good decissions. I might have sided with the bashing majority last time around, but the way you chose to read the comments with less insight into battery chemistry and fires and try to explain them in a pretty well grounded yet easily understood way, was really good to listen to. I'll give this channel a go, there might be something good coming out of it as well. Always a good idea to listen to both sides of the conversation.

@AutoExpertJC I Love getting my comic relief on a Friday after a stressful week at work. Keep up the great content and humor John.. love it

Thanks John. Your pretty funny yourself, above average 😊 You're about the only thing that makes sense to my brain after trying to make sense of construction in "straya" at a (giggles) professional level. A voice of applied science and reason. Thankyou.

I just read a post on another KZread car channel. The guy said, "We need to import Chinese EV's to America. They have never had a failure". I damn near fell out of my chair laughing. BTW John, your description of the Australian Government sounds exactly like my description of America's government.

It's always satisfying to hear 'America' pronounced correctly...

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

I always get a stiffy doing it...

Alright John, I don't sub to channels very easily, and I almost had an argument with the compressor video (turned out I jumped to conclusion a little early lol ) but totally agree with everything I've seen from you . Needless to say, I am a new subscriber . Thanks for your common sense and knowledge from an old American . :) If you haven't already, check out Cutting Edge Engineering, He's an Australian too and a hell of a Machinist and fabricator . :)

Thinking about what you said there is a major shopping centre where I live which has charging points in the bottom of the high rise car park, I think I should tell them its highly dangerous

@timblaxland294

Жыл бұрын

You should. If they've done their homework, they will have had a qualified fire engineer undertake a fire safety assessment. I think it is the smaller carpark operators who are less likely to be so rigorous that are the bigger concern with regard to EV fire risk management.

Thank you for the enlightening replies to comments. Is the light behind you an old glass bowl fuel filter? You just gave me another intrepid great idea.

Good one John, hope you have a good weekend too!

Thank you for your series of videos on this serious issue. In my condominium, we have allowed some owners to install chargers in their underground parking slots for their ev's, providing they paid for their own chargers. This fire issue was never raised when the board approved the installs. This is an issue every Condo building needs to address. Again, thanks for the information. Kind regards from Toronto

John Love the content especially your Roasts! Just put in Fire Suppression Blanket for Cars that was interesting as Pow Blankets for Scooters and Bikes came up as well. 3x2m blanket for a scooter £120.00 and for a car £2200.00. So when will insurers insist on a Blanket scooters and bikes if they are stored indoors. And an increase in the thickness of Intumescent Barriers in Garages in Domestic and for that matter commercial settings?

Interesting to notice the spacing of the big bags of lithium waste (includes whole battery cells) in the outside storage area at Redmond recycling is significant. Maybe cars on a ship should be spaced similarly.

Some underground mines have now adopted fleets of lithium battery powered 50 ton trucks, loaders, light vehicles etc., i haven't heard of any incidents, but i would not want to be 3000ft down and have a massive lithium battery fire in my way of getting to the surface.....just another hazard i guess.

But, you're the Australian version of AvE 😂 I love it!

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

He is awesome. Keep your dick in a vise!

@Low760

Жыл бұрын

John is less politicised than ave thankfully.

Peanuts are not real nuts they are legumes

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Cashews aren't nuts any more either - no idea what their pronouns are today...

You really are an engineer. I can't help but notice your two-piece glasses. That's how my glasses looked after I took a class on O.D.E's.

@AutoExpertJC

11 ай бұрын

Dude, I bled from the ears. I still hate Laplace.

Capture and storage. Go no further than your nearest tree. The shells on the prawns or the crushed seashell on the beach.

I really enjoy your videos John. While i don't always agree with your opinion or framing, i do recognise and appreciate how you do the research and provide the numbers. Good on you. Cheers, (self-confessed EV nut)

Friday evening at John's is usually entertaining. Thank you for the laughs. (and the education)

Hi John, Your commentary is well justified. The situation is that with respect to EVs we are actually very early in the technological cycle, about where ICE vehicles and aircraft were around 1925. In those days untoward accidents arising from underdeveloped designs were common place. My Dad's Austin 7 caught fire going up Tumble Down Dick. With its wooden frame, aluminium body and horse hair and capoch stuffed seating it quickly burnt to the ground. Rather than banning ICEV, manufacturers soon learnt that gravity feed fuel tanks located on top of the engine were not such a good idea and moved it to the rear of the vehicle and incorporated a fuel pump. In the 1930s my late uncle died when the wing fell off his Puss Moth. Rather than banning wings (and flying) engineers worked out how to make wings stronger, not subject to sudden catastrophic failure. The issue with safety of BEVs is exactly the same. If there are safety flaws in these vehicles engineers need to observe, learn and work out how to fix them. Unfortunately, Australia having ditched it's auto manufacturing capacity won't have much to contribute, we will just have to wait while someone sorts this out for us. This is a pity because the Australian environment does present challenges to the adoption of BEVs such as high ambient temperatures, long distances and rough roads. If we had been part of the solution it could have been a significant contribution to the progress of mankind. As it stands we look more like a plug in the arsehole if progress.

JC, a man who loves his work.

Thanks for the overview and for your information on EVs in general. My neighbour with a very fancy electric Hyundai is convinced that EVs are getting better all the time, cobalt is gone, and also he can repair and resell his electric bike on eBay with no worries. He parks his car in his garage and keeps his bike there too. Maybe, and he lives a half km away on a hill top so I'm not too worried, but I'm starting to get concerned about all the old lithium batteries from defunct weed whippers, electric drills, Telstra monstrosities and the like that are building up at my place. I have recycled a few in the past, but it is somewhere between an inconvenience (ie a long drive just to drop off a dead battery) and an extreme annoyance (like when I spent 40 minutes in line to dispose of my dead computer at the dump). If lithium ion batteries are a clear and present danger, then why don't local governments have a regular pick-up/recycling? (NB- I just got my rates bill and I'm not feeling well served by my local government (Queensland, semi-rural)).

@alanjenkins1508

11 ай бұрын

They won't undergo thermal runaway when discharged, although you might persuade them to burn.

We just heard on the news that they want us to get EV's, and we are all going to change them for free at a public charging station then go home and power the house from the car? Like to see the outcome on a heatwave day with all the air-conditioning running while the car overheats in thy carport. I wonder how many will burn? Call me old fashioned but will stick to my ice car as it has over 100 years of testing backing it up. Thanks.

@Low760

Жыл бұрын

You need to stop watching the msm news as I'm sure that's not the full story.

Did you hear about the guy who stole lithium tablets and iron tablets from a chemist? The police charged him.

Hey John, love your stuff mate, from America. I have fwd your link to my family and friends and you have new subs.

The ‘Nuts’ are most likely the suspects who have bought into and own an EV. And nobody must question their now green credentials and wise purchase of an EV. That they are internally regretting the decision of buying into it they still tell everyone they love their fire hazard. 😊

@OtisFlint

Жыл бұрын

The vast majority of EV buyers will never go back to ICE. We know first hand that the anti-EV propaganda is just that, and in the real world they are practical, reliable, efficient, green, and economical. Don't buy one for the wrong application (like towing long distances), don't buy one if you can't charge where you live, and don't buy one if you live in the middle of nowhere with no infrastructure. These constraints don't apply to the majority of people.

@Neojhun

Жыл бұрын

This is great example how brainwashed works really well. There is no fire extra hazard, you are more likely to burned in your Petrol Car. While you are ignoring the alternative which is a machine that Combust Petrol as it's normal operation. These are just the facts which Fear Mongering has done great work to break your brain.

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

They're around 60 times *less* of a fire hazard than your car is. Thatcham, the UK based Road Safety and crash testing organisation, carried out a study into car fires, using all the data available globally. Once their study had concluded, the results showed there were 1529.9 fires per 100'000 ICE cars, and 25.4 fires per 100'000 electric cars. But hey, you'll probably still cling onto your misguided beliefs, as it suits your agenda.

@Isclachau

Жыл бұрын

@@OtisFlint I think you will be surprised. Even the manufacturers have realised nobody wants one. China especially. E Fuels are clearly the way to go. Unfortunately Politics has got in the way with big business and the wrong decisions as always will be made.

@theairstig9164

Жыл бұрын

I love my multiple fire hazards. I’m not hiding them and I am not shoving a virtue signalling agenda down my friends throats. I’m not telling people to get in my BEV instead of taking their own car. I have a BBQ gas bottle and my house is still gas heated. I also have solar. How does that fit your narrative?

Another great video; I’m so glad I discovered your channel, it’s where common sense and facts meet. Keep up the great work 👏

Always worn listening to John - good video

Great videos this one and the 'Runaway 500 EV....'your basically doing the government's job by educating the public about the risk in an entertaining way. This video has also made me question the multi-storey car parks that i overlook, how often the charging units are tested ....the answer was as I thought and now we are looking into an expensive piece of equipment to test the EV charging stations in the car park for electrical safety and functionality.

This should be really good, thanks John (:

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

They are export grade.

Spelling out facts to nut’s never gets through the tough shell 😊

I don't know if it could slow down the combustion but are these vehicles shipped after charged fully?

I have watched several of your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge about vehicles. Especially your knowledge on Electric Vehicles.

Maintain the rage Johnno! Hopefully you get through to the woke so that this issue is addressed somehow?

John this was an awesome, pointed video exposing the diminishing level of intelligence of some members in society. Some may wonder why people don’t use their common sense, but if common sense was so common, then wouldn’t we find evidence of it more often?🤔 Thank you for another entertaining video, please keep them coming. 😁👍🇦🇺

I think this video was very productive in regards to clarifying some of your points that some people seem to misinterpret on a weekly basis.

Thank you for doing this At the start of this, my take is: EVs, really any cars, rarely catch fire just sitting there They do sometimes catch fire charging, especially the cheap and new brands to electric (including Tesla when they were new) They sometimes catch from debris on the road when driving But regardless of how the fire starts, if there's an EV in the way (or a backup battery) the fire will be catastrophic I charge my EV outside I think my neighbour was badly advised when they installed their home battery next to the front door I'm looking forward to getting an update

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

I think you're on point here.

@bernardblack7677

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoExpertJC I would be very interested in hearing what you could dig up on Spirit of Tasmania’s procedures for dealing with thermal runaway events in it’s vehicle hold.

@simoncrooke1644

Жыл бұрын

​@@bernardblack7677Pray.

Co2 makes up less than 0.04 % of the atmosphere. By volume, the dry air in Earth's atmosphere is about 78.08 percent nitrogen, 20.95 percent oxygen, and 0.93 percent argon. A brew of trace gases accounts for the other approximately 0.04 percent, including the gases carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Yawn. Tell NASA.

@waitpu4817

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoExpertJC I'm sure they already know & they won't tell anyone, I mean really who's going to panic or feel that's anything to endanger our future?

@davidbarnsley8486

Жыл бұрын

Nasa like the csiro get funding from their respective governments So will push the narrative

@21:25 Maybe we are not addressing the problems of the major polluters at the production end because these are really difficult to resolve. Maybe we are concentrating on minor polluters like, cars, gas stoves and domestic electricity use because there's a lot of quick and easy money to be made at this consumer end of the problem.

an 18650 lithium ion battery weighs about 45g, of that, about 0.5g is lithium.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Totally.

Love the twinkle you get in your eye when talking about acetylene. Those that know why...... well know😂

@Low760

Жыл бұрын

I've cut up enough old truck body frames to love the gas axe.

I'm starting to enjoy EVs. The comedic material from the cult of electric. It's priceless.

@ChineseKiwi

Жыл бұрын

You do realise he mocked the dumb people on ‘both sides’ right? Less insecurity bogans.

@grantleyhughes

Жыл бұрын

@@ChineseKiwi Yes. There are stupid people everywhere. But the EV cultist are a special kind. They'll defend their purchase to the death, even knowing it's shortcomings. Like buying a big diesel tradie ute to run around town. But EV cultists get so offended if you criticise anything about the vehicle, charging, their special parking areas or the numerous faults. And that leads to comical joy for the rest of us.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” I think everybody knows who said it...!

If a fire occurred in a parking station, just getting the fire fighting gear to the car would be a whole logistical issue in itself.

Thank you for your ‘non-word salad’ opinions and explanations . Very refreshing. I am impressed with your ideas (not surprised because you are an engineer and understand complex systems). If we had 151 engineers in parliament instead of politicians (who have never worked a day in the real world in their lives) not only would the problems be solved, they would probably have been avoided.

@sullivanrachael

Жыл бұрын

Politicians are interested in power. And usually money. Engineers enjoy solving problems - usually the technical kind. Politicians use engineers to make tools to control the people. Certain jabs and EVs?

@leisuresuitlaz1710

11 ай бұрын

Speaking of engineers Tesla has and attracts the best engineers in the world right now as well as the ones working at SpaceX. JC is only a Utuber and a journalist with opinions and assumptions lol

@sullivanrachael

11 ай бұрын

@@leisuresuitlaz1710 engineers solve technical problems. Nothing wrong with that. But the point about the Battery EV is the concept is wrong. The future cannot depend on the EV. 1) we don’t have enough mining capability nor recycling capability to cope with all the batteries. 2) We don’t generate enough electricity - and have no hope of doing so without nuclear. Renewables provide energy when the sun is out or the wind blows strongly. Not nearly enough for cold dark winter evenings. The weak link about the EV is the batteries - I’m not saying it won’t work because at small scale it does. Hybrids (PHEVs) are good because they lower ICE emissions; but banning ICE before EV is mature is idiocy from the WEF. It cannot be done unless lifestyles become drastically energy reduced. Impoverished is a better word. This is why the adoption of EVs is like joining a religious cult; you need to believe in pseudoscience and rhetoric. The fact Tesla have really talented engineers doesn’t make those people able to bend the laws of physics!!

I admire your resilience to all this ignorance. I really do. Your KZread channel has been a long-term interest of mine. It has developed gracefully and it keeps getting better. Thanks Mr Cadogan. ❤

@yeeebayeeba4268

Жыл бұрын

Let me give you some good advice. Don't take any climate alarmist seriously unless they advocate for nuclear power.

"When this thing hits 174 degrees F, you're going to see some serious shit". Back to the Future.

I can relate the ship fire to an incident, when a volunteer fire fighter. There was a propane tank fire at a large rural greenhouse, one large tank was ingulfed sitting next to two other large tanks. We were initially going to hose it down, and the captain called us of and told us we will let it burn itself out. to dangerous for firefighters in close proximity.

Electric vehicles seem to be very expensive to insure. Not my personal experience, just from comments I see with increasing regularity.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

True. They are.

People don't know what they don't know

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Unknown unknowns are the worst.

@matthewblack5656

Жыл бұрын

DK syndrome

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

How do you know that?

Loving your vids. New subscriber but total fan 👌👌

G'day John, rhere's a guy in the UK called PetrolPed. He's just done an EV tewing test. But I'm writing about the technology of the towing hitch and the caravan. The caravan was attached to a top spec BMW electric vehicle by a connection unlike any I've ever seen, and the caravan (Chichester Caravans UK) had the equivalent of its own stability control. which also picked up the BMW's settings? The guy claimed this could stop the dreaded weave. It's about halfway through the video so skip to that as I guess you don't need to be told the range was halved towing a 1.5 tonne van!

Hey John. How do you safely store your battery powered tools and toys?

@Dancing_Alone_wRentals

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't count....not the same. Sit back down and stop interrupting.

@yuglesstube

Жыл бұрын

My wife keep hers in the drawer.

@fknid

Жыл бұрын

@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals why not same?

@reservoirtiger1656

Жыл бұрын

​@@yuglesstubeAre you comfortable with that?

@yuglesstube

Жыл бұрын

@reservoirtiger1656 no major fireworks yet, unfortunately.

give the global warning a break for petes sake, else next youll be advocating for a yes vote

KZread comments work like a lithium ion fire. Nothing puts out that eternal fire.

Regardless of what forum I comment on regarding the various 'issues' with EVs, I am bombarded with absolutely ridiculous arguments (mainly deflection) from the EV zealots who are absolutely enraged by any criticism. I eventually have to bale out because of their stupidity......and I have a life to lead. I'm a retired aerospace engineer, no expert in batteries and electronics admittedly, but I used to teach risk management in my later years, and how these EVs got onto the consumer market baffles me.

Co2 was at an all time low prior to the Industrial revolution. In addition there has been no heat trend that can be tied to any Co2 measurements. The closest we can tell is that Heat comes about 10 years prior to an increase in Co2. (Co2 dissolves more into cold water than warm.) All raw data from NOAA and NASA are completely in agreement with my statements. In addition temperatures on earth are in a historic decline since 1930. As well we are no where near the historic high temperatures derived from indirect measurements for the past. Co2 levels are also No where near historic high measurements from prior to man (according to classic western view). Also 80% of Co2 emissions are emitted by China and they are doing nothing to curb this. any effort by the rest of the world is basically pointless if China doesnt also follow. pretty comical all told. The ridiculous Co2 Levels that the UN wants is so low all plant life would die. thats not a good idea at all.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

FFS, dude: try to keep up.

@joehelland1635

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoExpertJC Ive Literally been following all the data on this for 25 years. Its been a particular interest of mine my entire adult life.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Confirmation bias, anyone?

This societal obsession with EV's looks to me similar to the littering blame game. Recycling of for example milk/soft drink bottles was passed from a corporate responsibility to the consumer and now the consumer is blamed for the problem. Anyway the other part of the tailpipe emission problem is as you have spoken about before - NOX and particulate pollution.. Have a good weekend

@Neojhun

Жыл бұрын

What a bunch of brainwashed political nonsense. BEVs can easily have over 400hp and do 0-100kmh in 4sec. Now a bunch of performance spec have Drift Mode from the factory. You have a Drift Missile right from the factory. The reason why many people like BEVs is the same reason why a Love a Supercharged V8 Holden. Eat My Tire Smoke.

Love you videos! Keep it up! ;-) Love your shirt selection as well.

“Emotional bandwidth “? Love it!

Hey J.C. do you know what the average level of CO2 in the last 600m years is? Try 3,000 ppm. About there. What level of CO2 do plants need to do photosynthesis before they die? Around 200 ppm. Where are we now? About 400 ppm. It has been in a straight line decline in the past 150 m years. If it gets much lower, crops will shrink fast. They pump CO@ into greenhouses to grown a lot of A grade crops. The more CO@ a plant has the less water it needs to perform photosynthesis. I am aware you are confident you are an expert in everything, 😂We breathe the oxygen plants produce. We are very close to mass extinction right now, if the plants die, so do we. This is the real science, not the quackery you read.

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

Yawn. Try to keep up.

@davidbarnsley8486

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t like it when you point out real facts We need more co2 in the atmosphere to grow food

@AutoExpertJC

Жыл бұрын

No. That's incorrect.

The initial Dutch coastguard quote was "It’s carrying cars, 2,857, of which 25 are electrical cars, which made the fire even more difficult. It’s not easy to keep that kind of fire under control and even in such a vessel it’s not easy". Nobody actually knows which type of car started the fire and they did not say an EV started the fire either, the press said that. It may have been an EV, it may not. This figure has since been updated to 3,783 cars, including 498 EVs. An EV is the LEAST likely vehicle to catch fire per 100K miles driven, by a very large margin. Hybrids are the worst, then gas, then EV. The data on this is well known, freely available and collected by insurance companies. This trend should continue downwards as the battery chemistries change. That is why insurance companies are happy to insure them, they generally like to make a profit. If they were spontaneously combusting all the time, you would not be able to get insurance. Around 50% of Tesla's now being produced have no cobalt in the batteries as most manufacturers pivot to Lithium-Iron-Phosphate (LFP) chemistries which are not at all the same as the Lithium-Ion you find in your mobile phones and laptops. It does continue to be used in refining of gasoline however, which has always been the case. EV's require far less maintenance and servicing, including brake pads, which are the big income generators for dealers, so criticism, fact based or not, will continue to come from gas companies, the garage/servicing industry, mainstream press and even car companies themselves themselves that struggle to make any profit on EV's in competition with Tesla. This is not a rant, you can check all this data for yourself, it is all available, just calmly do your own research.

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

All cars are electrical. You obviously meant electric cars...... And yes, an EV is around 60 times *less* likely to catch fire.

A small radio control airplane burst into flames mid flight when I was playing with it, burned through all the controls in seconds crashed and burned quite vigorously. Wish I had someone shooting video its looked awesome.

I’m definitely not critical. I’ve become more aware of the fire risk with EVs over the last year or two. I live in an apartment block with an underground car park. I certainly don’t fancy sitting on top of an inferno. We’ve got a few EVs in there now. Might explain the hike in insurance premiums the last few years:(. They’ve got to come up with safer battery chemistries. The risk is pretty insane. Fires might be rare but that’s not much compensation when you’re staring at the pile of ashes which were once 80 flats.

Woeful Timestamps 1:29 LiFP Batteries 4:31 Spraying water on EVs lithium nonsense 7:07 More lithium metal confusion nonsense 7:20 Yet another lithium metal confusion nonsense 8:55 Eat lithium batteries its good for you 10:18 PM Cadoges 11:34 Hearing/Comprehension Deficiency 13:03 Is the EV fire worse than an oil spill? 14:35 Climate denialism BS 16:09 Source on vehicle emissions 22:10 SMEF 23:11 Your z-score is probably below 0