Respectfully, I’ll disagree with you that we need to get rid of 10g tanks. In the tarantula hobby, a 10g is ideal for many species. Bigger is better doesn’t always apply to arachnids and a larger tank size can sometimes be unsafe for many reasons. Especially because larger tanks tend to be quite tall and can be a fall risk to heavy bodied terrestrial species.

@lidewijcroes1795

4 ай бұрын

I think she was referring to reptiles and that’s what wwr has been referring to as well

@Rsheissekopf

3 ай бұрын

Shes referring to reptiles. I keep inverts as well and obviously a 10 gallon is great space for some inverts, but not adult reptiles.

@Cyber7893

18 күн бұрын

@@lidewijcroes1795yeah for reptiles you at least need a 30-20 gallon tank

The biggest No for me, in that video, is, new keepers with no experince, will now feel inspired to have several animals together, without being able to see instantly when they dont do well.

@turts_and_herps

4 ай бұрын

He always tells people if you’re a BEGINNER to keep them solitary

@Katielomax7

4 ай бұрын

Exactly, I’m so disappointed in him for that alone. He’s sent a terrible message to inexperienced keepers. What a step back for the community this is.

@KittyCute-wz2we

4 ай бұрын

Even if he only put one gecko in there- the way he made it was so unsanitary that it's just mean. I can't believe he takes dirty bricks and wood and uses them. You could easily wash branches, rocks, and bricks with soap and bake in the oven at 200 degrees to heat sanitize in an hour. It's not hard and still free.

@Solaxer

4 ай бұрын

That isn't fair. He emphasized *DONT* do this unless you're experienced. It's not his fault if people with low comprehension skills only see the thumbnail or skip to the end and try to copy it. If a new keeper disregard his warnings, they were probably going to screw up their care regardless.

@tmreptile

4 ай бұрын

In the same video you mention… he said it was for experienced keepers only. He told new people to keep them separate and learn their behavior first. Then learn group behavior and always do your research.

To all prospective reptile owners, they are NOT cheap. There is no inexpensive reptile to keep.

@alexonsurez345

4 ай бұрын

I mean compared to dogs they’re definitely cheap if it’s a corn snake or a crested gecko. But they still cost a few hundred dollars

@14_Scar_14

4 ай бұрын

@@alexonsurez345 my dogs are cheaper than my tortoise and bearded dragon. I pay for my animals and I spent over a thousand pound on my reptiles enclosure, food, decor, enrichment, and a little under 800 on my dogs food, enrichment, beds, etc.

@swiggydiggy

4 ай бұрын

@@alexonsurez345 reptiles are high initial cost, low maintenance cost, cats and dogs are the opposite. I can feed my snake for a year on what I feed my cats in two months.

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

They are pretty cheap for a pet.

@prickly_procyonids

4 ай бұрын

They’re cheap comparative to other pets you could have. Even if you get a nice bioactive setup for a leopard gecko there’s no way it’s nearly as expensive as a horse or dog.

I keep my female leopard gecko in a 4x2x2 pvc with universal rocks background. I couldn’t imagine even 1 more gecko in. I’m so happy I can provide her that much space! It’s fun watching her come out and explore.

The best way to make a popular video is controversy. So it helps everyone when you state the issues another creator has put into their video. You're completely fair. Thanks for bringing up these issues on a fair way

I think another big problem with situations like this, is the average person buying a leopard gecko at the pet store is not going to see any issues housing multiples because that is how they are kept at the store. Granted they are babies, but they also keep bearded dragons in multiples too. Betta fish are another problem with those tiny cups. Then people put them in 1 gallon tanks...

@brandonbaird3917

4 ай бұрын

The way they are kept in pet stores in general is far more dangerous than this video was on every level.

@ochaco_uraraka11

4 ай бұрын

Stupid people will do stupid things. You can’t cater to everyone. He always says do your research so it’s not his fault if a new person tries this. UFC fights always have disclaimers, 99% of people won’t try and cafe fight someone. But if two people do and get hurt, is it the UFC’s fault ? No.

@poochiew.9302

4 ай бұрын

@@ochaco_uraraka11I agree with you to a point. People like Adam have a bit more responsibility IMO because he is posting videos on a public platform and people look up to KZreadrs whether they should or not.

@ochaco_uraraka11

4 ай бұрын

@@poochiew.9302 again. He talks about doing research multiple times. She also cuts out footage too from the original. It’s not his responsibility to do anything other than make make videos. If some parents buy a kid 6 leopard geckos and puts them into the same size tank and they die… whose fault is that ? Not Adam’s 😂😂 How is it his fault if people watch 1 video and think “hey I’m an expert, got my one KZread video and I’m ready to go!” That’s an asinine take and should not be his responsibility that stupid people do stupid things.

@poochiew.9302

4 ай бұрын

@@ochaco_uraraka11You are thinking rationally. I'm talking about the people who are a few fries short of a Happy Meal. I am not saying it is Adam's fault if someone watches his video then outs 6 leos in a tank and they die. I'm saying that some people that watch/obsess over people who are "famous" such as Adam or Rebecca don't have the rationality to research for themselves. They are naive.

Six geckos in one tank is crazy

@kingcockroach.

4 ай бұрын

Maybe if you had a zoo enclosure but the fact hes doing it in a enclosure big enough for one 😢

@darthboa

4 ай бұрын

Ya in a 8x3x2 it might work, I'd be interested in see that, with one of them being male

@Crazyslushy

4 ай бұрын

Why ?

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

@@Crazyslushybecause they don’t have any space to preform their normal, natural behaviors, plus they can become aggressive if breeding/mating is involved (plus you very well could have inbreeding). Just don’t do it, either keep them alone, or have two of the same gender in a large enclosure (AND BTW, ONLY CERTAIN GECKOS CAN EVEN DO THAT, it’s personally/dementor based!!) Just don’t cohab unless you get incredibly lucky (you probably won’t)

@user-hr4hu8xb5f

4 ай бұрын

Six in one tank is fine as long as you have a bed size or above enclosure ig.

I do like Wickens Wicked Reptiles just for certain videos that he makes but I have to admit he does do certain things wrong and does give "old" information on certain reptiles, what he did there was a bad mistake to make!

@HippieKiller420

4 ай бұрын

he is extremely critical of people and care taking for no reason sometimes

@sarahclay8565

4 ай бұрын

@@HippieKiller420 I agree I have unfortunately noticed this too 😔

@willpoirier8880

4 ай бұрын

Bro he cohabs small tree frogs with milks and day heckos💀 line what the fuck

@sarahclay8565

4 ай бұрын

@@willpoirier8880 Oh damn I didn't know about this! Guess he does things more than just a "little wrong" 😕

@KittyCute-wz2we

4 ай бұрын

I agree that I enjoy his channel, but I don't agree with everything he says. I think he wants to hype people up to own reptiles which is really good- but he is often chasing after views which might drive him to give some iffy advice people want to hear- but shouldn't hear.

So many people use the "I have been doing X for Y number of years" as an excuse to do things wrong. Not just in reptile keeping, just in general.

@cakeeeetime

4 ай бұрын

I very strongly agree with this. Experience is worth a lot, but should not be used as a base to proove a point.

@miat234

4 ай бұрын

The funny thing is, in the video Adam said he’s been keeping reptiles for 15 years, and then on his Instagram story he tried to justify himself by saying he’s been keeping reptiles for only 5 years 😭😭 I don’t think he even has a valid argument with the x and y years thing

@tmreptile

4 ай бұрын

He didn’t use that as his argument. He said he’s done this exact thing for years and based all of that on his research and talking to people who actually observe them in the wild.

@cakeeeetime

4 ай бұрын

​@@tmreptile 01:04 He says it's controversial, but he has been keeping Leopard Geckos for 15 years and this is what he recommands. This is one(!) of his arguements. If he has sources that say it's okay to keep this amount of geckos on such little space, I would be more then happy to read them and put it into perspective to the sources that mention the structure and space needed to cohb these animals and avoid unhealthy/deadly stress.

@tmreptile

4 ай бұрын

@@cakeeeetime he literally said he’s talked to multiple people who observe them in the wild and has done extensive research regarding it. Yes he said he’s done it for years but I don’t think that he was using it as an argument. But I’m not him. Idk.

Really well done. Calm, collected, respectful but making a point. He’s gonna be dragged, but this was a better way of addressing it

I agree with getting stuff from around your house etc, But I do it safe. I bake and soak EVERYTHING before it goes in my enclosures. Vinegar is awesome for that (Snake discovery and Jessicasanimalfriends) and I wait mostly a few days. Females CAN fight. I have a female (she lays infertile eggs) that is more like a tokay!

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

I have two males together, but I personally do not 100% agree with cohabitation. I got beyond lucky, they are insanely calm in demeanor and do not care to fight or anything. They are both healthy in weight (one got a bit skinny due to an issue not related to the other gecko, he ate a bit of substrate and needed assistance removing it) I don’t agree with it because 99% of people will not get as lucky as I, and my other gecko (I have 3) isn’t cohabitated for this reason. Just don’t do it, I got blessed as heck, and blessed with a large enclosure as well

@Rsheissekopf

3 ай бұрын

​@@Lylaris_or_Garuk You have two male leipard geckos together?

“Provide places for each of them to hide” that’s two hides in there, not allowing them to even hide by themselves…

@sandstone8852

21 күн бұрын

no there are 11

I think it's very fair critique, brought up in a respectful manner (already saw "Karen" in the comments when I started watching, which is just bogus), and I absolutely agree with you.

Thanks for making this. I didn't watch this vid until I saw you were going to review a video about 6 leopard geckos in one tank! I also didn't approve how he said just clean stuff off. Anytime you take something from the wild at least in the US, it's a good idea to do some deep cleaning, some times baking things. So that was disappointing. I've been watching you for years and I love the info you give, and that you are always looking for the best care to provide. I got a DHP for my AFT gecko because of how well they worked for you. Keep up the awesome vids!

@brandonbaird3917

4 ай бұрын

You mean like the time she argued about leopard geckos having moss because they would eat it and die lol oh she also said they wouldn’t encounter it in the wild in their native homes yet kept hers on paper towels like that’s natural to them lol. Not everything she says is legit or great either.

@Midwest_Lizard_Mom

4 ай бұрын

@brandonbaird3917 - a lot of people have kept reptiles on paper towels at some point, at least for quarantine. And things change. But cohabbing 6 in an enclosure is not a good idea, I think many would agree.

@brandonbaird3917

4 ай бұрын

@@Midwest_Lizard_Mom there is also Many that say you can cohab them and they are fine.

@Midwest_Lizard_Mom

4 ай бұрын

@brandonbaird3917 - personally, I wouldn't recommend cohabbing them. The risks are too great and it's putting unnecessary stress on them.

@fibbintiggins2858

4 ай бұрын

@@brandonbaird3917 why would you want to?

Been subscribed to this dude for a couple years. Unsubscribed after this. While using sticks and rocks is fine (he needed to have sanitized them though), this many geckos in one tank is not. His arrogance in the comments also rubbed me the wrong way. I sincerely hope this experiment works out ok for the geckos.

@Midwest_Lizard_Mom

4 ай бұрын

My thoughts too re sanitization!

@cakeeeetime

4 ай бұрын

The sanitization part send me over the edge! Collecting things from outside is absolutly a good idea! But you need to do so much research and know how to sanatize! You should sanatize bought stuff for all I know! Building a world for a living beeing is complicated, cutting corners is not going to make it easy.

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

@@cakeeeetime to be fair its a viewpoint many bioactive folks take. I dont neccessarily agree but its not just out of laziness - the idea is to introduce helpful microfauna to help make the tank bioactive.

@Midwest_Lizard_Mom

4 ай бұрын

@cakeeeetime - that bothered me too. Even when I buy cork bark, I cook it. It's not worth the risk to the animal.

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

@@cakeeeetime I have a new hide for my gecko that I haven’t put in the tank yet because it isn’t wrapped in any packaging, meaning all kinds of nonsense could be on it. It gets baked first. When I… remember to do that.

WWR: give them lots of space, give em a whole rainforest! also WWR: puts six leopard geckos in the enclosure I use for just one

@99SigP

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, but that's what YOU chose to use for just one. Good on you, I think that's great, but most of the time, a 4x2x2 is like housing a single gecko in a palace.

This setup has so many red flags and alarm bells going off in my head as I watched. Pull the emergency brake! Thanks for calling it out because we need to prevent people from doing this setup.

What annoys me is he justifies the small enclosure by saying that he gave 20 gallons of space for each gecko, so a 4'x2'x2' enclosure, that's 120 gallons, so 6 geckos. But most of that is just air space, which the geckos can't use, even with the "climbing opportunities" (it's two sticks balanced on top of each other, who are you kidding). Realistically, there's only 60 gallons of usable floor space and even that's being generous. So two/three geckos max. Plus, it's common knowledge that if you are cohabbing any animal, you shouldn't stick to minimum enclosure sizes and instead provide as much space as possible. Because, y'know, that's the most effective way to reduce the risk of fighting outside of just housing them separately.

@lidewijcroes1795

4 ай бұрын

I keep one in a 4x2x2, can’t even imagine two let alone six

@TheCharleseye

4 ай бұрын

Reptiles are just math. Nothing more. There's definitely no nuance or technicality to reptile keeping. That's why everyone has to follow the guides that are created for the absolute dumbest among us. Anyone who isn't following the "For Dummies" guides is the devil, because they are capable of deeper thought than the paste eaters who buy their reptiles at Petco.

@Rsheissekopf

3 ай бұрын

For real, it's so incredibly frustrating that people trying to defend him just skip over this and refuse to acknowledge it. This is not replicating a loose colony like in the wild, this is keeping them trapped together in a 4x2 footprint. Half the space isn't even usable, they're all stuck on the ground with each other with a whopping two hides for six geckos? Insane this is being considered the same as how they live in the wild.

@redbhraca

3 ай бұрын

He's basically is treating leopard geckos like fish, but at least fish can make use of the water column 💀

@RegenTonnenEnte

3 ай бұрын

Doesn't really matter. It's shared space. Every gecko uses all of the enclosure so it's not too small

videos like his is why i think the dislike button used to have a pretty important function, someone's gonna stumble upon his video and won't scroll to the comments and will- at best- come out misinformed, and make their pet suffer -at worse-.

@Gekkco

3 ай бұрын

Yea your getting a dislike and so is this video

The problem here is he is an "influencer", he's basically advertising that you can keep them all together. Yes he says "do your research" etc but most people coming into the hobby will see this video and think that its "okay" to do so. I think the overall problem is his ego, without coming across as a d**k, he's extremely egotistical and very stubborn on what he says, I really have no idea where the ego comes from as he only gets on average 30k views a video so its not like he's some god on KZread. MAYBE you can cohabit but 100% not in a 4x2x2 and lets just ignore how bad the tank actually looks. Just a stubborn horrible person, I wish I was in the reptile KZread niche and would happily make a video on this subject.

@SammyTeal

4 ай бұрын

Same, decorations arent even that expensive, you can go to the dollar store and buy a lot of fake/easy to clean plants, hides etc, they love new things , it provides mental stimulation, if you mix with real plants even better, you can do a bio system

@chbgator2226

4 ай бұрын

LOL thats right, someone does something you don't agree with and they are a horrible person. I 100% don't like the self-righteous tone of her voice in this video so does that make her a horrible person?

This situation is insane. Congrats on 300K subs, I have been watching your channel since I was around like 8 or something. Now I am 15 years old, and I am very grateful for your advice, it has saved my geckos so many times.

I don't agree with everything Adam says either; and like boil or bake your rocks/sticks/leaves to sanitize them first please! And make sure they came from somewhere where you know no pesticides or anything has been sprayed. And I 100% agree about setting up the enclosure in advance! I'm setting up an enclosure for a rosy boa and I have NO idea when I will be able to adopt my snake but I've already been puttering around trying to make the best enclosure possible. I plan on starting to grow plants in it at least a month or two before I know that I am getting my snake and I will probably start the plant myself from seed so that I know 100% that they are safe to use with my animal!

@falcolf

4 ай бұрын

Also I REALLY hope Adam doesn't leave the enclosure like that, it's ugly.

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

I ABSOLUTELY recommend Serpa Design’s KZread channel Great information on it, and amazing bioactive enclosures

I’ve come to say after seeing hate for you online. I’m so sorry people want to close their eyes to research, facts and the well being of animals so they can justify neglecting their reptiles to continue hoarding them. You are one of the first channels I discovered and trust as a person who loves deep diving into research for my pets well being and I’m so happy working in the pet industry I always recommend your channel to beginners I help with. Seeing people justify this is utterly horrifying and I’m SOOO grateful you are speaking up about it! Sending much love

@Ysl.phantom

4 ай бұрын

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What the hell happened to Adam?!? He was on a good path! Not cleaning stuff from outside???? Free animals die quicker then pets for a reason! That's one of the only reasons I allow myself to keep pets! I can give them health care!!! WTF? I'm not through the whole thing yet and it's hard to keep watching. I liked Adams contant every now and then and I'm so disapointed. I'm losing my shit, I didn't expect that. I usally try so hard not to get overly emotional, but this realy got me! LOOK AT YOUR ANIMALS??? That is the last step you have to do in pet care. Do intense research so you can interpret your animals behavior. If you ignore basic needs looking is not gonna fix it! Beeing alive is not living! That's it. No more internet today. I'm to invested and emotional to give constructive critisism. (I needed to get this out. It is in no way constructive.)

@GreenspaceGeckos

4 ай бұрын

Something has changed more recently but he has always been like this I have talked to him a handful of times and been on his discord server open mic and listen to his livestreams for a few years. He has always been a strong believer in cohabing and as cheap as possible methods. Like we all try to figure the most affordable prices and sources but there is a line you can't cross not everyone agrees where the line is. You would think the line is where you are cutting corners on care and safety but it's subjective too I guess. This is truly his worst video I hope he will learn from it but him personally probably won't change much. I don't believe this setup is still in use I don't think he would keep 6 Leo for long-term and I wondering if this stunt to test his views to know how they will react to his future plans namely moving to Texas he idealization of the states and namely Texas will definitely hurt his brand best to rock the boat now then when he moves. I don't hate him but it's sour my view of him too. Low-key I came here because people were say this was dragging Adam through the mud but really it's not it's because my thoughts I think most keepers thoughts too when someone put 6 leopards gecko in a 120gal maybe a 6000gal( I seen that before it was a 10 by 14ft room if I remember right the guy had only had 4-5 leopard geckos) the internet is bit toxic at time especially when it comes to pets for some reason

@The_Crucible714

2 ай бұрын

@@GreenspaceGeckos Adam pissed me off too many times. He means well but I stopped following him because it’s “my way or the highway” too often.

Hello, just looking for some quick advice please Planning on upgrading my Leo's vivarium from glass to wooden 36 x 15 x 15 and want to replace my heat mat but don't like the thought of the mat being inside the tank, so I was going to use an arcadia dhp 50 watt and an arcadia Pro t5 shadedweller 7%, just wondering if this is enough space for those being inside the viv? Mostly the dhp is 15 inch enough for 50 watt? Also planning on changing substrate to Reptile Substrate shelf Liner, planning on putting that plus some slate on the warm end so she has a mix of softer and harder terrain but not loose, with a box of cocofibre or moss for a moist hide plus a little digging area

I stopped watching this guy months ago, but i cant believe he'd even try something this irresponsible, let alone advocate it as something other owners should try. I tried cohabbing banded geckos (close relatives of leos) a few years ago; did tons of research, set up a huge bioactive tank, everything seemed perfect. But they didnt like each other to say the least; now ive just got one female from the 1/2 trio i started with. Leos are far more agressive and powerful than banded geckos, so if the smaller, more docile species couldn't cohab in ideal conditions then leos probably can't either. It's simply not worth the risk

@M1ndTrix

4 ай бұрын

You know chicken is code word for little boys right?

i think this video of his is just what happens for some creators if they have a tough upload schedule with a video every week - sometimes you have nothing to say so you end up saying something careless and maybe even harmful - instead of taking an upload break which could mean a paycut

My first red flag went up when he said 'stuff from a field'. Dude...you don't know what could be on that 'stuff' and how it will effect your animal. DON'T do that!

@ElessarEstel

4 ай бұрын

I use wood from the field in my ball python enclosure. It's not a problem as long as you clean and sanitize it. Clean it off and stick it in the oven. Where do you think reptile decor comes from? They don't farm wood for reptile enclosures. At some point, somebody got it from the ground.

@viperblackjewel3915

4 ай бұрын

Always get from a pesticide free area and sanitize it properly. It can be done safely if you know what your doing. Preferably from your own yard and trees.

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

I have used rocks, wood and sticks from outside for my reptiles, it’s all in how you sanitize it. Boiling stuff is the ultimate cheat code; get a big pot, and boil whatever object you are using, keeping it off the bottom of the pot, for a pretty extended period of time. Bacteria, eggs, microorganisms, and pesky bugs die under those temps. Plus, WASH IT OFF GOOD!! Get the debris off

You have my absolute respect for this calm and collected voice over! This is why I love the channel you created.

Imagine some alien adopted you and forced you to live with 5 roommates in a 1 bedroom house.

@otyspetrik2530

4 ай бұрын

So like in New York?

@DonAlcombright

4 ай бұрын

Imagine if some alien adopted you and forced you to live in a box by yourself…

@tmreptile

4 ай бұрын

Imagine not understanding information and clearly not doing your own research but still commenting about it

@HappyMatt12345

4 ай бұрын

​@@tmreptile I have done my own research. I've actually been looking into getting a leopard gecko, and I'm trying to save up enough money to set up a good terrarium for one, and just about every source I've visited says a 20 gallon terrarium is considered the minimum these days for a single leopard gecko (the terrarium I'm looking at is a bit bigger than that, 32x18x12 or something like that I don't remember at the moment the exact dimensions but it's 30 gallons and has front doors) and that it's better for the animal psychologically not to be kept with others in that small of an enclosure because geckos are solitary animals and don't normally live in groups (she even says this in the video, by the way). I'm sorry I tried to make a joke out of the situation rather than express my anger as a rant in the comments, clearly that's interpreted as lacking research.

@tmreptile

4 ай бұрын

@@HappyMatt12345 That’s exactly why I said you didn’t do research. They aren’t solitary. Go read research papers on people who study them in the wild. Not what she said. You’re getting your info from someone who doesn’t observe them in the wild. I tend to listen to people who work with and observe them in the wild Edit: Also what should their substrate be? She said sand and dirt was not appropriate as well. So please inform me what it should be. I wonder what they live on in the wild?

It is okay to use things you find outside (sanitized) but this needs so much more than what he put in it (plus five less geckos 😅) but this enclosure looks so boring and sad to be honest. I don't really see that many places to go hide for the geckos, especially in the back middle of the tank. I hope he learns from this but he really doesn't seem to be taking criticism well. 🙃

@puddsmax863

4 ай бұрын

I'm also very shocked to see this from him because he usually gives in my opinion pretty decent advice, I have a couple of his care guides saved for reference. This is kinda sad to see from him honestly and like you said in the video it sounds like he's doing it to prove a point even though it's so risky and in my opinion, messed up. Yikes.

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I use sanitized sticks and rocks in my two geckos tanks, but they also each have 2 coconut hides and an open hide (one has a resin rock, the other a resin log, both with 3 exits). They don’t have to awkwardly hide under the sticks, they have secure places to relax.

@puddsmax863

4 ай бұрын

@thatonepossum5766 Exactly! It's so weird- he should put few cork pieces or something in that enclosure for more hiding, it makes no sense.

I like Adam but this one was rough. Hopefully he can take responsibility and move on

@SpitefulJD

4 ай бұрын

Highkey I doubt it, from previous interactions with him, he's always reacted childishly to things like this. Last time he got into controversy he basically doubled down and called the people who reacted poorly babies, from how he's dealt with this so far, seems like it'll be what he does again.

@Kosukie

4 ай бұрын

He has too much pride for that sadly.

@SouthernTees

4 ай бұрын

Take responsibility with wht 😂

@Blueberrybomb1234

4 ай бұрын

@@SpitefulJD I saw a comment on that video, it was in the replies section, he said something along the lines of "People who think that you can't do this keep their geckos with paper towels for substrate." That was my last straw, I look up to this guy, I really like him, I know that this is wrong, and it kind of broke me, it feels like betrayal, some you liked and was inspiration to you says something like that, is so rude. I have a gecko and I love him, I have all the proper care, and well, my gecko does not like me (He likes my dad tho.) I did months of research and just discrediting that is so weird and makes you come off as an asshole.

@loli_cvnt5622

4 ай бұрын

He's never taken responsibility for anything in the past, so I'm v skepticle on that. This one is just.. the same shit he's done wrong in the past but times 50 and very very obvious and out there. Nothing's gonna happen

I'm honestly so glad you made this video to help prevent misinformation. Both I and a lot of people in my exotic pets discord server are disgusted both by the video Wicken has made as well as his behavior in the comments of it. Its very disappointing to see people attacking you in the comments over this because they seem to have a parasocial relationship with him

@draz39

4 ай бұрын

This video literally is misinformation

When I was setting up my first planted bioactive I just rinsed my plants with water instead of thoroughly cleaning with a mild bleach and quarantine. And I saw a slug. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for tearing it down because I was wasting stuff that I’d have to rebuy. I REGRET NOTHING

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

For the slug thing, did you replace the soil that arrived with the plant in it’s entirety? A slug egg could’ve been present in the dirt The best thing would be to completely clean the roots of the soil that came with the plant I hope I helped, that stuff can be so complicated, I wish you luck with your enclosure

@madefromashes

4 ай бұрын

@@Lylaris_or_Garuk I removed as much dirt as I could but there was probably some left, I ended up tearing it down, like triple sanitizing it, properly cleaning plants and quarantining them. and I haven’t had any issues! Thank you for your advice!

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

@@madefromashes good!! Hopefully the snails remain gone

I don’t understand why some animal keepers assume females can’t have same-sex agression, like???

He also encouraged people to skip on UVB for crested geckos. He doesn't have the animal welfare in mind. He is just a lazy keeper that does absolute minimum.

@wildside306

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@Mothobius

4 күн бұрын

It's like every reptile youtubers always has controversy.

In regards to 7:59 , I feel it is worth sharing a small story. My first leopard gecko, Sandy. She was put up for rehome due to cohabbing issues. Her previous owner had a similar sized tank to WWR actually, and had around 6 geckos with one boy and 4-5 girls (yes, a breeding setup). Now, the reason for Sandy being rehomed was not because she was refusing to reproduce or because she wasn’t “pretty” enough. No. It was because the owner wanted to introduce another female gecko to the group. A GIANT morph gecko, which I guess Sandy felt threatened, and then ended up causing issues. I don’t believe there was any injuries between the two, but she ended up getting “replaced” for not wanting to share her space. (She has been with me ever since, and is currently very happily sleeping in her warm hide haha!)

For time context the original video was posted 2 weeks before this one. It's not like the original is many years old.

I think you nailed it when you said that some will just do it to try to prove a point- and only the animals will suffer.

When i saw this i was very excited for the blow back lol. I love that you said "agree to disagree" this was the most respectful reaction video, reptile wise, that ive ever seen. He keeps alot his other geckos the same as you do in HUGE beautiful enclosures so i was also confused on this video since it was so different than his other enclosures and care standards.

@Gekkco

3 ай бұрын

You were excited for him to get canceled your weird

My leopard gecko enclosure was pretty cheap, and that’s because I got my leopard gecko for free, from my cousin. That’s purely the only reason why the rest was cheap. The tank was $149, the decorations cost over $60 as well as bedding. The lighting came with the tank, but I am looking to upgrade it to an Arcadia uvb light. Reptiles are not cheap and never should be treated as such!!!

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

My leopard gecko and tank were free! Because my brother wasn’t into keeping it anymore, and wanted to make sure it would have good care. Then I spent $200+ on my second gecko and her setup (used tank dropped the price significantly). 😅

"make sure you do your research and you're not just cramming them into an enclosure"... so don't do exactly what this whole video is about basically?? Like is this guy serious??

6 geckos??? Thats the size of one of my garter snake colonies! And Ive even had some snakes moved to smaller colonies because they were uncomfortable! Even a species that does well cohabbing can not like being in a group that size, doing it with leopard geckos is insane!

I generally like his channel and content, as you said he does simplify things but I think there is a benefit to that at times. That being said, I have stopped watching his content and if he doesn't put out a genuine "I was wrong" video I will unsubscribe and just be done. He needs to swallow his pride, take the L, and admit he made a mistake.

@NerdyOutdoorVeteran

4 ай бұрын

I’ve watched a lot of videos and while he simplifies things, he does always mention in almost every video to do your own research and not to use him as your only source of info. Overall his stuff is pretty solid. This was kind of a weird out of line one.

Hi how do you stick a shop brought background onto the exo terra glass?

thank you for making this! i'm glad someone called out this ludicrousy

at the mention of snails, what would be your recommended method to get rid of snails in bioactive enclosures? I unfortunately have a garden snail infestation and since theyre so tiny its hard to get rid of them all

How bout 1 gecko is 6 tanks 😮

Thanks you for bringing this to my attention, im absolutely disgusted by the way he justifies his childish behaviour. And doesnt even show "the proper research" he has taken

Two other thing as well. He mentions coir fibre. LGs have sensitive respiratory systems and coco fibre can aggrevate them. He also said the enclosure needs misting daily. No it does not. Again they have sensitive respiratory systems, their humidity needs to be under 60 percent.

@taurengraybeard218

4 ай бұрын

The daily misting comment really irked me. They are desert creatures.

@spacealien3073

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the misting thing really has me confused like in the wild they live in arid regions in countries like Iran. These places do have some humidity but certainly not in a concentrated quantity that would require that kind of care. Leopard geckos do fine with water bowls as far as I've seen.

@ithewho6603

4 ай бұрын

If the tank has great airflow it will dry fast. I misted my naturalistic leo enclosure daily, yet the humidity levels stayed at 45% on average. Except for night spikes, but that's normal in nature too. Even in dry areas night humidity rises high. They also spend a lot of times in caves and under rocks and in burrows which have high humidity.

@NerdyOutdoorVeteran

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think he’s talking about misting like in a tropical enclosure. He’s probably talking about dropping some water droplets on the heads of the geckos. I do that with my beardie to keep them hydrated. I don’t classify it as misting though because I’m jot spraying down the cage.

On the overthinking part. I don't know what it means to European people to overthink, but here in the states and probably Canada, it means do your research to do it right but don't spend so much time doing research that that's all you do. I think I might have heard her say overcomplicate in the same sense.

He's literally in the comments of the video arguing with people, talking about how he's right and there's (accoording to him) no evidence that you can't cohabit. Its so disappointing.

hey! i’m 100 percent on your side with the whole “6 geckos in one tank” thing. if you decide to make another video/post i would suggest mentioning the floor space of his 4 by 2 feet enclosure. Wickens thinks 20 gallons is the minimum (i personally think 40 gallons is minimum and so do most people) 20 gallons is 360 square inches of floor space, meaning he would need at least 2,160 square inches BUT his enclosure is only 1,152 square inches. majority of his enclosure is unsuitable. personally i do not agree with cohabiting, even if they don’t fight there is overall no proven benefit. thank you for standing up for these geckos!

Seems like you did him a good favor because his numbers went up as far as subscribers. Someone has made a response to your video here as well saying how you took bits a piece’s of his video out of context to suit your own agenda. I’m glad you exposed him and helped him grow a bigger fan base 🥰🥰🥰

his reputation started off terrible. Over time he changed his advice and became more respected. I have a feeling this video will bring his reputation back down for a long, long time

@NPCdeinternet

4 ай бұрын

What did he did in the start? Im new viewer

@benjaminscheffler2738

4 ай бұрын

Totally right, and then for him to make a video about how he bought/ ultimately killed some wild caught reptiles not long after this video? Dude is in a free fall right now…

@lemonlizard1

4 ай бұрын

@@NPCdeinternet he recommended some very improper husbandry to beginners

@NPCdeinternet

4 ай бұрын

@@lemonlizard1 for example?

@kropka8259

4 ай бұрын

Telling people to not give crested geckos UVB for example. Doubling down on it too, getting snarky and condescendiing @@NPCdeinternet

i just found out abt this from tiktok, and when someone mentioned it was a 4x2x2 my jaw went THROUGH the floor. like HOW DID YOU THINK THAT WAS ADEQUATE SPACE FOR THAT MANY GECKOS!

In the past few years, his channel has gotten much more “click bait”y and has leaned into shock value. Stopped watching a while back but this has pushed me into an unsub

Me and my dad have been discussing getting my gecko a 4x2x2, for ONE gecko, how does he think it's okay for 6?

@I_am_BiG_Al

3 ай бұрын

I keep 2 female bearded dragons in a 4x2x2

God I thought this must be a old video given all the terrible advice in it only to see he posted this 2 weeks ago??? What the hell? Yeah next time KZread recommends Wickens vids to me I'm going to click that "Don't recommend channel" option because I cannot support someone with a platform as big as his giving out harmful advice like this. Not only is cohabing that many females in that close proximity a terrible idea but what does he mean "daily misting???" These aren't crested geckos they live in arid regions of like Iran and stuff you're probably going to give them a respiratory infection or something. On the topic of infections though what the hell kind of advice is "don't bother cleaning these items you found outside as long as there's no poop around them"? BRO, YOU CANNOT SEE MOST BACTERIA WITHOUT A MICROSCOPE! Also the eggs of parasitic arthropods as well as dangerous fungal spores can also hitch a ride on a random ass rock or stick you found outside without you noticing. That advice absolutely should not be followed by anyone: its a quick way for a bit of laziness to turn into an expensive vet bill (or worse).

@NerdyOutdoorVeteran

4 ай бұрын

I’m not defending him, but you can absolutely mist desert reptiles with zero issues. I’ve been misting my bearded dragons for years. It just involves getting water droplets on their head that they lap up. Leopard Geckos do the same thing and it doesn’t affect the humidity at all.

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

@@NerdyOutdoorVeteranlike everyday though, depending on the amount, that can become quite harmful. Too much water is bad on their lungs Misting every now and again is a definite thing you should do, but misting everyday in great quantity is kinda a “no no”

I spent almost 2k on my first and only leopard gecko between the substrate, decorations, background, food, set up and vet bill. I wanted to make sure he was happy and healthy for his almost forever home until I upgrade his tank

Everyone says they are no longer subscribed yet his subscriptions to his channel have gone up since this video dropped 😂

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

Weird. I woulda thought this would be bad for his channel. I know I for one unsubscribed after years of following him. I don’t care for enclosure build videos, so it wasn’t until I saw this video that I even knew what he did…

@littleharry0921

4 ай бұрын

@@thatonepossum5766shut up

@littleharry0921

4 ай бұрын

@@thatonepossum5766when

@littleharry0921

4 ай бұрын

@@thatonepossum5766did i ask

Adam using "20 gallons per gecko" as a way to say this is appropriate is just...insane to me. If they were fish and could utilize all of the space in a given volume, sure, but two thirds of that 120 gallons is empty air. I also kinda hate the two subjects of the video being put together the way they are. "Make a bioactive enclosure for zero dollars" is a fine subject for a video, but "I am putting a whole bunch of animals in a big enclosure" should require your ABSOLUTE BEST EFFORT to make a space for the animals. If you're trying to prove something controversial is okay, you want to put your best foot forward and give the animals the absolute best enclosure you can make. It feels like he was given this enclosure and didn't have a video for it so he (quite literally) just threw something together.

I don't hate the clutter in the enclosure. Bricks aren't the worst thing imo. But the rest is pretty terrible. I did some Terrarium with a actually outdoor cork branch but i sterilized it in a Autoclave

Even if they don’t fight, it you’re so right in saying that they TOLERATE it. It’s stresses them out unnecessarily. SO WHY DO IT? JUST BC THEY CAN SURVIVE DOESN’T MEAN IT’S RIGHT! 🙄🙄🙄 this is so lazy

It’s OK now he made an apology video

Yikes I dont understand why it is so hard to just keep animals in the way that is best for them🙃

I just Unsubscribed from him what he said is one of the Dumbest things i've ever heard.

I have always been a fan of Adams, but I think he is getting somewhat overwhelmed with too many animals. He just had to rehome his turtles because they were too much of a pain for him, and one kept chewing the sealant on the aquarium causing leaks. He has spread himself too thin and the animals are losing. This is not something he should be putting out there for beginners to emulate, and they will. I hope this negative feedback and losing his sponsor will kind of give his head a shake and get him putting the animals first again.

@wildside306

2 ай бұрын

Ugh, his enclosure recommendations have always been terrible

His whole video felt like it was only done for the sponsorship money. Very poorly done and felt very forced. He seems to be getting crushed from having to much on his plate and just getting new animals just for views. This is all just my personal opinion

not a single one of those hides even counts as a full hiding spot they all have two open ends......

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

Yea they are probably very stressed like that, even outside of cohabitation, the lack of hiding space isn’t ideal…

Big thing here is what will work vs. what is good. Breeders usually prefer smaller enclosures to larger ones. After all space is money and hunting down an animal in a large enclosure takes time. Just like finding eggs, ootheca or similar. But it's not what the animal needs or will thrive with. A professional might get away with a ton of things, just from pure experience. However it's nothing that should be advertised to an audience that isn't professionals. While he might be able to tell when his animals are stressed out, the average youtube viewer isn't.

I've been uncomfortable with some of Wicken's shit for a while now, really. A lot of his shit seems, very iffy.

@triggerhappynumskull

4 ай бұрын

Honestly I've since he's been barking on about setting up breeding programmes for niche wild caught animals his ego has been well out of wack

@ghostybees6322

4 ай бұрын

@@triggerhappynumskull Was he always like this? I can't quite recall, but I feel like he wasn't ALWAYS like this. I think he kept talking about wild caught animals all the time, and kept making excuses for keeping them as pets for no reason? Included a lot in his tier lists all the time? I don't remember all the specifics of why he made me uncomfortable, because it's been a long time since I've even watched one of his- but, yeah.

@emmettrose5960

4 ай бұрын

@@ghostybees6322He’s acted like that for quite a while. I remember him bringing up axolotls however long ago and how great it is to breed them, because you’re helping save the species! (Which is not the case, to be clear. Intentionally inbreeding for pretty colors is the exact opposite of what conservation breeding programs do.)

it doesn't cost money to put bricks or wood in the oven either (other than electricity) i had a friend who also kind of had this mindset and didn't clean any wood before using it in a gecko tank and it was overrun by small insects that and her refusal to bring him to the vet cause of cost killed him and she really seemed to care so i think its 100% gross to buy an animal you know you wont spend money to benefit its a living animal not a plant and 6 in one tank thats unexplainable an idiot wouldnt do that so you have to really just not care about the animal

@eclair555

4 ай бұрын

its expensive for us to live so its gonna be expensive to keep somthing else alive dont make an investment if your too selfish to invest in it

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

It’s so easy to sanitize sticks, too. They just go in the oven for a bit. Sticks that size would be trickier (not gonna fit in a normal oven. Maybe rent a pizza oven? Lol), but I’m sure he could figure it out.

@eclair555

4 ай бұрын

@@thatonepossum5766 exactly i just dont get why you would choose to do the wrong thing putting your animal in danger just to save 30 minutes and replacing everything after its covered in bugs would cost you so its just dumb 😭

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

@@eclair555 having read the comments on his video, it looks like his reasoning is that the -3 weather would have killed everything. Which… if it killed everything, why does that stuff still exist when the weather warms up?

My leos drink from their water bowls

@catsplat1272

4 ай бұрын

I kept mine for years without a water bowl and then I put one in and he drank from it, so I’ve just decided to have one in there for him. Except now my isopods keep drowning 😭

@thatonepossum5766

4 ай бұрын

I’ve seen my guy do it once. That’s enough for me to justify having one in there.

@ithewho6603

4 ай бұрын

​@@catsplat1272Do you have room for isopods in other side of the tank? I gave them moss patches, covered it with leaf litter and mist daily. No drown isopods lol. My enclosure has good airflow and the overall humidity never got too high during days.

I watched one of his videos and didn’t agree with anything he said so NEVER watched one of his again. I watch your videos and Elle’s Reptiles mainly and have learned so much.

I used to watch Wickens but this video plus his clickbaity titanoboa video both were the final straw.

I really liked Adam and his care guides, but this was honestly low and VERY disappointing. IK It must feel awkward to talk about another reptile youtuber, but it’s good to correct people when needed.

I tend not to watch him. He only sells you on the animals he keeps. He can be smug with those animals HE don’t prefer. And since he’s monetized and hangs out with popular petubers, he comes off as he knows best.

You realize that in the wild they hang out in groups where they only go as far as they need for resources as long as you don’t put in more than one male. All resources are available in a 120 gallon (4x2x2) where as a lot of people keep leopard geckos in 10 gallon terrainiums. Even at 20 gallons each worth of space, there is lap multiple places for water and heat. So actually educate yourself before you decide to rage about things just because “it’s what I heard you’re supposed to do”.

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

Wheres your evidence that they only go as far as they need for resources? Wheres your evidence tgat they only go as far as a like 10 20 inches away from each other? A 4 by as basically a hiding spot in the wild. Adams evidence is one paper that does not even go that deep into their so called colony. Have you yourself researched the topic or did you just watch his video and came on here?

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

And its real bold of you to assume she's not familiar with khans paper lol

@XCeptionRC

4 ай бұрын

@@kirillukin2222 I didn’t say she wasn’t familiar with Kahn’s paper. But to knock someone who has been doing it for over a decade, with plenty of research done, not only with other people in the trade, but people who deal in them in their natural habitats. But what would those people that have actually observed them in the wild know? Stop trying to act like you’re so smart, because you’ve obviously proven you’re one of those closed minded people that believes what they read in a common pet store brochure.

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

@@XCeptionRC cool other people in the trade have seen them tear each other up in better enclosures than this that were okay with each other for longer periods of time, something ive never heard about in truly social species like garters. Where is the proof that cramming six in a 120 is beneficial to them? I imagine that loose groups disperse farther than this footprint. You can put 3 in there and it'll be less stress for the same behaviours expressed. 6 in 120 is too much man, im not even against cohab, just against doimg it wrong like he in my opinion does. Saw a dude cohabbing 6 in a 6 foot and it looked great in my opinion but a 4 by two is just too small honest to god. Used to keep a hatchling in a 60 gal that thing was all over the place just by itself. And saying "oh they have all their resources in there" is reductive. We want to keep them better not jhst good enough. The only person who cosigned keeping 6 in a 120 i adam and none of the other people you and him name drop

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

@@XCeptionRC she by the way, is doing its for over a decade too, and unlike him was foused entirely on leopard geckos and it shows in her superiour care guides and enclosures. Which is fine, i wouldnt focus on leopard geckos alone for a decade either, but him keeping also geckos over a decade is not exactly a flex on her

Didn’t jcs from Arcadia have a topic about this on the animals at home podcast?

Ignore everyone saying you're being rude or disrespectful or wherever because just from watching your videos I can tell you are very far from that. I just think there is so much information out there, that is hard to determine what is right and what is wrong. Just from the Facebook groups I'm in I can see how different husbandry is in different countries especially USA compared to the UK. The information you provide is 100% correct and coming back from Adams new video he is also 100% correct. however in my opinion Wild animals and captive bread animals are a little different although they still have the same "instincts" and "behaviour" it will always be risky to keep them together no matter how much space or hides or water you provide so sometimes although the information is correct and facts are facts its best to be safe than sorry.

I think this is done to prove a point, but the point in question is that reptiles are more social than we think. Even reptile people dismiss their animals and don’t want them to engage in social behaviours. Many owners have kept leopard geckos in groups, including with males.

If he was keeping gartersnakes then I’d say yes, leopard geckos, only one should be in the enclosure.

@kirillukin2222

4 ай бұрын

No, id say up to three but co hab can be managed properly

Going to be honest im not suprised he acted this way, i called him out myself ages ago and he pretty much resorted to slandering despite one of his friends literally harming their animals.

I 100% agree with you. Adam is good for a lot of things but housing leopard geckos together not cool. So upset about this.

i usually really like this guy’s content and i feel he always gives good and responsible advice, but this is extremely strange. this is wayy too small for the amount of geckos and even i know that and i dont own a single gecko and dont plan to soon

I seen lots of breeder yalking about leopard gecko bee8ng less agressive when together in small place. (Its not good) but it dont mean they can be together, they just dont have idea oulf territory, as soon a you give them space (wich is good) they get the idea of personal space and mostly become more agressive.

there's a local animal shelter in my area that has a group of 3 leopard geckos and they will only adopt them out AS A GROUP 😢 when i read this on their website i was already so stressed out, wym you want them to keep co-habing aaaahhhhhhhh

@lidewijcroes1795

4 ай бұрын

Someone should adopt them all and just give them separate enclosures

@mMeFlora

4 ай бұрын

​@@lidewijcroes1795 shelters here do random check-ups where they come to your house unannounced amd if your animal care isn't up to par they take your pets back to the shelter

@javakado1828

4 ай бұрын

Cohab is better

@Lylaris_or_Garuk

4 ай бұрын

@@javakado1828 it is not. Scientifically it just isn’t. There’s like HUNDREDS of sources saying so

Definitely don’t agree with pretty much everything he said 🤦‍♂️ come on Adam get yourself together 🤷‍♂️

Have you seen his most recent video crying about how his imported wild caught animals didn't survive? Man baffles me sometimes

@SemiAquaticExotics

4 ай бұрын

Well it's really difficult to import reptiles from other countries aside from Madagascar hell Canadians can't really import much from the US either. I think importing wild cuaghts is fine if you plan on establishing them in Captivity in your country.

@wraith1320

2 ай бұрын

@@SemiAquaticExoticsThat’s… literally the only way anything ever BECOMES established in captivity. At some point, SOME wild caught animals are necessary. Ultimately, establishing a captive population means less animals will be taken from the wild. That said… any wild caught animal should be checked out for parasites and the like, as soon as it is safe and possible to do so.

@SemiAquaticExotics

2 ай бұрын

@@wraith1320 you replied to the wrong comment

@wraith1320

2 ай бұрын

@@SemiAquaticExotics I think my tone just came across wrong-I was actually agreeing with what you said about importing. 😅 After rereading my reply, I realize it did sound kind of argumentative-which wasn’t my intent at all.

"Don't overthink it, it's not like there's the safety or health of living animals to consider, guys." :/ I was furious when he was immediately like "oh you can use sand or fiber from anywhere." Hell no, impaction? Pesticides? Parasites? Screw this guy.

@TheCnutofMonteCristo

4 ай бұрын

Impaction is generally the result of wrong husbandry not the substrate. There are a couple of exceptions like calcisand. Impaction is a generally a symptom of incorrect husbandry, dehydration, wrong basking temps etc

@NerdyOutdoorVeteran

4 ай бұрын

Sand and dirt is fine. The whole impaction thing is from old care guides and is caused because they are sick or dehydrated. In other words, if you have proper husbandry impaction is a non issue as long as you are using a natural substrate. I do agree that pesticides and parasites should be a concern with grabbing random stuff from outside though.

Is it good ef I have a 20g tank 🤔

I would never dream of keeping my leos together, I honestly thought his care was better than this.

@ApocryphalSaint

4 ай бұрын

his care is amazing. people just refuse to actually learn and take things at face shock value. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5qAy69qZ5WyZKQ.html

@a.i.r.a.D

4 ай бұрын

its not refusing to learn🤣. what people aren't realising is that we are comparing wild animals to captive bread animals. Don't get me wrong Adam came with facts but there's just certain things you don't risk based on your experience and/or knowledge @@ApocryphalSaint

The smallest tank i use for leopard geckos is a 20g Long, it has the same floor space as a 40g and i live in an apartment so i don't have room for 2 4x2x2 tanks

@lukestoloff2213

4 ай бұрын

Leopard geckos are fine in a 20 long gives them a warm and cool zone and enough room to move around

@Katielomax7

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@lukestoloff2213debatable

@Blueberrybomb1234

4 ай бұрын

And that's good because you're giving it the best care you can, and making sure you can give good care.

@zoeyreptiliusowner

4 ай бұрын

stacking them is also a option. if you dont have the floor space there is some nice looking 4x2x2 racks/shelves and there sturdy i just got my kingsnake his pvc 4x2x2 so i can understand its quite big XD

Man.... Is a 4x2x2 even big enough for TWO geckos?! I've been keeping one of mine in a 36x18x18 with a setup really similar to Eco Logic Gecko's setup......and I gotta be honest, i don't even think that is enough, i feel like a 4x2x2 would best suit a single gecko. Wickens lost my respect with this one. We all dream of doing a naturalistic 6 gecko cohab tank, but not one this small.

@NerdyOutdoorVeteran

4 ай бұрын

40 gallon is considered minimum to one so math wise this enclosure would be adequate for 3. I think that’s the biggest issue people had. There is info out there indicating leopard geckos can be housed together, specifically females, it’s just not the norm accepted by the reptile community. To be honest if he said he had 3 in there I probably wouldn’t care, but 6 is a lot. That’s like putting them in a 20 gallon enclosure.

@Jobin14

4 ай бұрын

I can’t get behind you putting down him for using free & natural sticks/rocks etc. You’re insinuating that we must purchase reptile branded equipment & decor. I agree better practices shouldn’t have taken place but I don’t have any issues with sticks, rocks, bricks, leaves etc all free from your hard. It can look very good.

@allusernamestakenlol

4 ай бұрын

​@Jobin14 I didn't say that at all. Not in this economy lol, I collect my own materials whenever I can. I think more people should do that, but responsibly.

@allusernamestakenlol

4 ай бұрын

​@@NerdyOutdoorVeteranI think if he utilized more volume within the tank for added surface area, it probably wouldn't be as bad for 3. That was the other big issue I had with the tank: it didn't utilize any of the actual volume that a 4x2x2 offers.

@ozzys3129

4 ай бұрын

@@NerdyOutdoorVeteranthe issue is thinking about how the space is actually used, not the volume in gallons. The 40 gallon recommended measurements is a 36x18x18 and a 48x24x24 inch isn’t even double those measurements, he’d need a 72x36x36 inch or 6x3x3 enclosure for it to be double the minimum and suitable for 2 leopard geckos. I wish using gallons as a measurement would disappear in the reptile hobby, it’s only really suitable for fish and just leaves so many keepers confused.

I couldn't find this video on his channel. Did he take it down?

@14_Scar_14

4 ай бұрын

It’s ’I BUILT A INSANE BIOACTIVE REPTILE ENCLOSURE FOR ZERO DOLLARS’ and the most recent tour one.

@TheRealJimmyP

4 ай бұрын

Thank you@@14_Scar_14

@karenmcisaac22

4 ай бұрын

It's also meet his reptiles which was recent

Maybe this is a case of people not really caring if the geckos fight.

ive been overthinking my set up.. and im literally getting a $20 millipede 😭

When you dont agree with someone elses opinion, its great to talk to them or just move on. Happy Friday!

Unsubscribe , you want people to bully this man😂terrible !!! Shame on you

@moof1224

4 ай бұрын

It’s more criticizing than bullying

@smokekatjas7

4 ай бұрын

If you seen the comments I’ve seen it’s called bullying . And I don’t condone that🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ she knew he would get so much backlash

@moof1224

4 ай бұрын

@@smokekatjas7 yea, there’s definitely people that can go to far in comments, and that’s wrong. But there’s always gonna be people like that if someone is being criticized, that doesn’t mean it’s wrong to criticize people

@smokekatjas7

4 ай бұрын

She knew what she was doing 😂, she knew people were gonna come at him. oh well not a fan anymore