Should i do my 2024 F1 Season Predictions before, or after, pre season testing?

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Before

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

After

@laurensk6516

7 ай бұрын

Both, you are allowed to regret you pre-predictions after testing and change them. After the Seson you can check if your pre-predictions were the better ones afterall 😅

@JuynBiets

7 ай бұрын

You should do one in a weeks time or so and also one directly after testing

@Traxxmaciek

7 ай бұрын

Before is so much more fun. The unknown

Yuki most improved. Alonso is just showing he's still got it. Yuki is actually getting better.

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

The Alpine broke down too much for Fernando to showcase what he has done this year.

@woutermeeuwsen3284

7 ай бұрын

@@TommoOnKZreadYuki is still proving himself to be worth the investment, but with Alonso we already knew he had it in him

@spaceli0n

7 ай бұрын

What does Alpine breaking down have to do with Alonso in the Aston?@@TommoOnKZread

@macedits-bq3or

7 ай бұрын

Piastri cler i feel

@mike04574

7 ай бұрын

nah

Sargeant actually was P21. Liam Lawson got P20. Should there be predictions both before VS. after testing? I know that’ll be possibly too much content of the same thing but it could be interesting

@thebateman761

7 ай бұрын

@rachelkoiks maybe he could write down his predictions pre-testing, then make another one post-testing and show both of them in the same cideo

@Traxxmaciek

7 ай бұрын

I agree. I think that everyone agrees. What Tommy does is like predicting a match after seeing the first 5min played. You should do it blindly. That’s the whole point

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

I guess that'd function as a testing roundup. If I do my predictions pre testing, then that makes sense for sure!

You should do predictions before testing, makes accurate predictions more impressive but also gives some funny dodgy ones

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Zhou P11 was a pretty funny post testing prediction though ngl 😅

Honestly I think looking back at the pre season predictions is a lot of fun, its just really hillarious how bad/well some aged haha.

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Hulk P16 aged beautifully

@kirbyx2573

7 ай бұрын

@@TommoOnKZread Oh yea no the Hulk prediction aged like fine wine! I do wish he had/will have a better car tho...

Considering his perfomance in 2022, theres a shout for daniel as the most improved lmao

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Hmmmm those Mexico & Hungary performances were pretty impressive all things considered tbf

4 to 7 genuinely could have landed in any order, I did not think Charles would be the one to clinch it give he was the furthest back, really thought it would end lando, sainz, nando, charles

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

6 points is nothing over a 22 race season, not at the front anyway.

13:04 imagine how big the gap would have been between Max and Checo if the other teams were more competitive….

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

🤷‍♂️

@salandit7461

7 ай бұрын

I actually think it would have been closer. Checo is kinda like a modern day Fisichella. In a midfield car he can extract great performance, in a great car, he can’t seem to do it as much

@JuynBiets

7 ай бұрын

@@salandit7461 i don’t think that’s car related but more competition related. When you have F1s golden boy as a teammate it makes it much more difficult compared to having F1s nepo baby

@finlanderxx

7 ай бұрын

Albon's interview gave good insight why so much difference between Max and the other driver. At the start of the season, the gap with pace is small, but as the season progresses, Max has the cars sensitivity be increased bit by bit, which makes the car faster, but also lot harder to drive and that's why it's hard for the second driver to drive consistently. It's like having the mouse sensitivity on the computer put on the max

@CaptainRedbeard.

7 ай бұрын

​@salandit7461 checo has 1 win in like a decade with midfield cars. He gets in a redbull and wins like 3 races in a year lol. I think you look at Checo in a flattering manner compared to reality.

Scarily the most improved driver in 2023 was Max Verstappen, and he was already a genius.

I'd say do predictions after testing. Before testing it's just a random guess based on vibes, not so much a prediction based on some data. And at this one shows it's still difficult enough with the data.

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Less excuses for me to do so appallingly bad too.. 😅

@kityhawk2000

7 ай бұрын

I mean I'd say you could reliably make predictions for who will win in 24 and 25 right now. No one is catching Redbull before the next rule change It's as ridiculously optimistic to claim otherwise

@generaldreagonlps6889

7 ай бұрын

@@kityhawk2000 Yeah, but basically everything else is a mystery. There are four different teams who could potentially end up in P2 next year.

@xfreja

7 ай бұрын

@@TommoOnKZreadyou can do both, before and after

@E.Bashmak

7 ай бұрын

@@kityhawk2000 If Ferrari and McLaren solve their tyre deg issues then the constructors fight is literally open. Bcoz if that is the case and Perez is not stepping up massively - he can at most hope for p5-6. And if Merc become more consistent with their pace plus Russel stopping throwing aways every chance he has...

I like after testing predictions more. Yes, before will be more wild an funny, but you might as well throw dice for predictions at that point. After testing shows how well you interpreted the first outings and actually makes it mean more to me than just a completely random guess.

I'm a simple man, I see a Tommo upload announcement, I sit refreshing KZread for an hour

@djtaco2402

7 ай бұрын

Real

@daphneschuring5810

7 ай бұрын

Like simple man: Lynyrd Skynyrd

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

🫡

@vladlen-

7 ай бұрын

Cringe

@DelaneySeamus

7 ай бұрын

@@vladlen- so are your videos x

Alonso is the answer to bring a fight to max in equal machinery.... the old fashioned mentality the grit and determination he has to prove that age is a just a number and the years of experience behind him as well as the confidence in himself, he is the only driver on the grid to put up a good fight I think

Yuki is a good shout for most improved. He’s gotten better each season while the car has gotten worse and yet we are still able to see the improvement.

@tanyaghosh1311

6 ай бұрын

he still made a lot of mistakes this season though. Alphatauri could have gotten p7 in the constructors over Williams with a few less mistakes from yuki. Of course having 3 drivers share the second seat didn't help.

I think you should do this video after testing again. Several teams are already saying they're bringing almost entirely new cars so it'd be interesting to see how they go from that to the development throughout the year.

Im genuinely so excited to see your "redesigning" series again lol. Im always in a bit of awe how awesome of a job you do redesigning the cars. Cant wait for the car reveals simply to get your videos!

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Very kind, appreciate that! 🙌

as someone who got back into into Formula One mid September after not watching it since 2010 i love seeing the initial impressions the drivers gave before the season officially started

the gap between Max and Checo is more than the pts Checo scored and Checo finished second. Just amazed with the season Max's had.

@deeznoots6241

7 ай бұрын

Also says a lot about how inconsistent Checo has been and how there has been no consistent 2nd fastest car

1:31 Alonso was performing at a high level last year but of course he didn't have a competitive car so it went largely unnoticed. The same thing happened in the last two thirds of this season when people didn't rank his drives highly because the Aston Martin had fallen off.

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Plus it kept braking down.

I like Piastri for most improved, first season in and he successfully defended Russell once or twice

@tanyaghosh1311

6 ай бұрын

not to mention Max, who is much harder to mentally prepare to defend against. Look at Norris's radio everytime someone is right behind him.

Most improved? Piastri.

I hadn't seen this channel before, but I already respect you for going back in time to analyse your predictions and how they realistically held up.

Just a suggestion. When putting a drivers in table, use the current driver and put him into his position in REALITY side. For example, you predicted Tsunoda in P18, the name gets written in 18th row in PREDICTON (black) table and in 14th position in REALITY (pink) table. That way we do not reveal the positions of drivers that are yet to be discussed, i.e. reality's side P18 remains unknow until we actually get to Zhou. Yes, I know it is probably not that important, since we already (more or less) know the standings, but still - that would make the table filling process a bit more interesting.

@gustavorubio3638

6 ай бұрын

Completely agree with you

One of the videos i look forward to the most every year!

incredible rookie season by fernando. so much potential

McLaren was the most improved imo. Beat AM in the standings, fought for wins, won a sprint. Can't remember how much they finished on last year tho, but they weren't good.

Fun fact, I made some predictions at the beginning of this year, and I only got 2 right, but my average amount of positions off was only 2.8, whereas yours was 3.05 so by that, I was more accurate

I think you did better than you give yourself credit for, a lot of the right ideas but shows how unpredictable the racing really is. For next year do BOTH maximise that content. Predict before testing, then an after testing - what are you changing on your predictions, and you can even triple it up in the summer break how your doing and can you even change at that point and be closer. Its all content eh? And we like the banter :)

I liked for the dog, Istayed for the good content. keep it up!

Don’t overestimate Pourchaire. Dude won the championship in his third season.

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

1st in French F4 1st German F4 2nd in F3 5th in F2 2nd in F2 1st in F2 🤷‍♂️

Thx for a great season Tommo!! I say next season predictions come pre-testung!!

Tbf it could be interesting to do a "vibes" prediction before testing and then a post-testing prediction Not sure how it could work in terms of a video format.

Solid vid. Fair play to actually taking a punt and listing out the order 1-20. It's harder than people realize, as you could make a case for a number of drivers to be top-5. But only 5 can be and i respect you putting your name on a list like this. Good fun. I can help your P1 prediction for next year...Max. :)

the best part of this video is me inquiring about your shirt in the original video in your dms cause i wanted it and getting the answer at the end of the season in this video 😭

I would prefer the predictions after testing. It gives an insight but as we have seen this year teams can improve massively so testing doesn’t give everything away and there is still a lot of room for predictions. Also doing the predictions before is just random guessing what happens over the winter and the whole season.

Don't think it was the worst predictions last year you got none right

On the topic of suggestions for next time, could you do some sort of subtle audio processing to the old video to make it clearer who is speaking? Doesn't need to be much I think, just a bit of EQ or something for our brains to latch onto and tell who is speaking :)

most wholesome content on youtube. Makes my day everytime you upload 🙌🙌🙌

do predictions both before and after testing, and end of season. I think it would be hilarious to see how far off your predictions are from pre to post testing, and post testing to end of season 😂

That’s the most British meal ever I have no idea what any of those foods are 😂

Perez's 290 points difference is actually a big brain move from him to reduce the fee for renewing super license.

Obviously Zhou wasn't the most improved driver. You cannot improve upon perfection.

I love those videos that make you humble and some are straight fun to see back. 😂

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Nothing like a good humbling

You could do the predictions before testing and then do another video after testing where you do a (limited) amount of changes to your predictions. I think this might help you not be too biased based on just testing or just feeling.

Always enjoy this video at the start and end of each year. I did my list along with you at the start of the season. I got 2 correct (Max P1 and Zhou P18). I did however have 7 drivers at either +1 or -1. Let's do it before testing this year!

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Not bad at all Webster, put me to shame!

okay, is saying a rookie for most improved a bit cheap? because if that's allowed, most improved is Oscar Piastri and it's not very close in my eyes

I'd suggest doing predictions before testing, then do a video after testing and say if you think your predictions will do better, worse, or equal along with your constructors predictions

The Sargeant and De Vries predictions should count as correct. They were P22 and P21. Worst of the drivers that started the season just how you predicted.

Hey tommo i would prefer you to do them as early as possible, its just existing to see how unpredictable a season can be, love ur content

You certainly did not predict Paul de Vries from Estonia being 22nd in the championship for Trident

I honestly can't fault the K mag prediction. Before the season I always thought that K-Mag had the measure of Hulk psychologically. I'm quite surprised by how things went.

You should do next season’s predictions Pre-Testing but then after testing you get two wildcards to change two categories and stick with the rest

Turkey sandwich looks unreal 😎 good choice Tommo!

I predicted Doohan to race once for Alpine because Gasly was 1 or 2 penalty points away from missing a race but that didnt happen

I think you should do all predictions pre-season, but can change three total after testing. Changed predictions only count for half if they're right.

Vowles' comments about Logan being "always be a Williams academy driver" are quite telling. I reckon there's a chance of him being bumped to a reserve role.

That meal-deal is a banger! Especially if you got Clubcard Prices 50p discount!

8:16 they are slaying in that picture

Do your predictions after testing, it is better with a slightly educated guess rather than just guessing. I think this is why you did after testing this year as in 22 you did pre testing and it wasn't a very logical video to explain. But love these, it's not about what you get right or wrong, but an entertaining look back at our expectations and hope before the racing begins. You also did better than you gave yourself credit for, predicting 20 drivers in what turned out to be a 22 driver championship is insanely difficult. Maybe do a points finishing predictions video like this and a "vibe check" video, where you say who's gonna go well, win most races, most retirements, most unforced errors, most crashes, quickest and longest pitstops, most race penaltys, most penalty points etc. I'd enjoy it!

Do predictions after testing and make like a pt 2 after like 3 or 4, or during the season break, and react to both at the end of the season

From beginning to end of the season i would say Sargeant is most improved. His racecraft really got honed in the last 4-5 races.

i expect meal deal review to become a series during the off season

I think its wild that your hairstyle is basically the same as 9 months ago , just a little bit longer and slightly messier now

This is why I take everyone’s predictions with a pinch of salt 💀💀

It would be interesting to do it before testing. All vibes 😂

If you have the time and are able to could you maybe do pre testing predictions and post testing predictions Best of both worlds lol

you should do predictions before, after and midway through the season

Let's try to do this before testing, might be fun.

Predictions after testing makes more sense to me

I think you should both a before and a after testing prediction

should do one before testing and 1 after testing

I genuinely remember everytime you set an F1 season prediction for the last 3 years and everytime I was thinking to myslef this guy is taking the piss and hes obviously doing it for the views.

I'd argue that it's MCL who's the most improved team, at least AM was doing good at testing, but look at the papaya bois. They had a very different team at Bahrain and Austria-UK onwards, and that's credit to Lando, Oscar, and especially Andrea Stella and Zak Brown. Aston as much as I like them, really fell off at the second half, while McLaren has the exact opposite of performance.

Oh boy, it’s that time of year

i freaking love you like literally you make my day wayyyyyyyy much better❤❤❤❤️

Its better if u do before testing and after testing predictions

I've been looking forward to this video

Tommo I think you should do your next predictions before testing

before testing, we want to see your thoughts on the team's current state rather than something we can infer on our own after testing

De Vris will also drive for Toyota in WEC 2024 in the Hyper Car class alongside his FE duties.

At least you are consistent 😂😂😂😊

Max Verstappen beat Sergio Perez twice with 5 points left the spare. What did we just witness.

@joostbankert4250

7 ай бұрын

To me it would not seem that a Steward who faithfully surrenders his charge is diminished in love or in honour.

I think biggest improved team is gotta be McLaren as they def weren't fighting for podiums last year 🤔

Best part of winter break

Should definitely do predictions before testing

Do one before and one after next year, and then compare the ones before and ones after

Mate your meal deal choice is a solid 9/10

My prediction for 2023 was.... (Done after pre season testing) Constructors. Drivers 1 Ferrari 1 Charles 2 Redbull 2 Carlos 3 Aston Martin 3 Max 4 Mercedes. 4 Fernando 5 Alpine. 5 Perez 6 Alfa Romeo. 6 George 7 Hass. 7 Lewis 8 Mclaren. 8 Lance 9 Alpha Tauri. 9 Esteban 10 Williams. 10 Valterri 11 Pierre 12 Kevin 13 Nico 14 Gyanyu 15 Lando 16 Yuki 17 Alex 18 Nick 19 Oscar 20 Logan Really rooting for ferrari🥲🥲

I didn’t go to Tescos, but I do have an egg and ham sandwich and this video is the perfect side dish

Tommo, I think you learned something this year... I believe you should still make your predictions after preseason testing but this time take into account the teams and the capability you see of them bringing upgrades that can bring the car up the table... For instance... If Haas is last in preseason testing... Well you can book it they will most likely be last based on their history.... However if say Ferrari are at the back maybe you give then some benefit of the doubt depending on how you feel... for me I would say Ferrari would move up in speed because I trust in Vasseur...

I think Gasly has stepped up a lot this season compared to the latter half of last season. Fewer mistakes, good quali results and a better ability to convert good qualis into solid points when the Alpine was good enough to be in the top 10. He matched up very well against Ocon when most of us expected Ocon to have the better season. Nice job Pierre.

@TommoOnYoutube

7 ай бұрын

Fair shout

As a McLaren fan I remember your predictions and I’m very glad you were proved so wrong in the end 😂

Surely we’re getting the livery,overalls and HELMET rankings from across the season. Plsss

Meal deal was a belter until the drink. I respect the economic ls of the pick though lol Oh yeah also nice video

I don't think it matters *that* much if you do your 2024 predicitions before or after pre-season testing because, as this season has shown, development is almost as important as the car you start out with

Very funny one and like you, I was a long way off.. I predicted BEFORE pre season testing (11 of february to be precise): 1- Max Lewis George (lol) Charles 5-Carlos Sergio Fernando Lando Ocon 10-Gasly Oscar Valterri Lance Zhou 15-Nyck (that one hurt) -Hulk -Mag -Yuki -Alex -Logan I also tried to predicted constructor points ! -RB (500) -Mercedes (450) -Ferrari (400) -Aston (200) -Alpine (200) -McLaren (200) -Alfa (150) -Alpha (50) -Haas (50) -Williams (10) I was expecting a much much closer season with podium from 13 drivers ! (well it was 11, pretty close) I very much underestimated RB and overestimated alpine and Alfa. Pretty happy with the 6 places gap between Fernando and Lance. For Nyck and Yuki, I was not expecting Nyck to be good (but consistent) and the Alpha to be ok and Yuki to be... crash prone and too inconsistent, how wrong I was...

Predictions before testing pls!!!!

12:56 - If you’re disappointed uptil now, you have not -but really should- watch Brazil again but through his onboard and radio. That’s the key to having an idea. It will fully change your opinion on his race.

@anameyoucantremember

7 ай бұрын

What did Ricc do? I was too busy watching the Alonso -Perez fight

Driver changes in the middle of the season is something unpredictable, so I would say stick to the original 20 drivers for the season In this case, Zhou is p17, Magnussen is p18, Sargeant is p19 and De vries is p20 and you got the bottom two right

"Ferrari can tickle the other boxes"? Did i hear that right xd