Hermes is Odysseus’s grand-grand father. He also is (I think) the most present god in myths and helps heroes a lot. Circe tried to seduce Odysseus to show him that “men are pigs”. She was going to kill him as soon as they kissed but Odysseus didn’t comply because of Penelope. Circe is impressed by Odysseus’s love for his wife and decides to help him after that. In Done For, Circe summons a Chimera and Odysseus (with the moly’s effect) summons a Cyclops. Kinda like a pokemon duel (And holy moly was a joke ahahahha. Moly is the flower and jay really wanted to make that pun)

@ghostsurfer23

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's really confusing because on one hand the moly is just supposed to make Odysseus immune to Circe's magic, but Hermes also says it'll give him a taste of the power and let him summon a being from his imagination. Props to Dave for hearing the Cyclops roar; must have listened to this album a dozen times and never heard it.

@foufoulo._.z

5 ай бұрын

Hermes has to be the second more helpful god, right after Athena. Ironically...

@thecrazygooseofyourdreams4785

5 ай бұрын

I love the fact that the love for his wife saves is ass multiple times ☠️

@williamzinedineh

5 ай бұрын

@@foufoulo._.z tho depending on her mood Athena is really only helpful half the time. the other half she's creating literal monsters like the first spider and Medusa

@froilandragon5693

5 ай бұрын

Imagine being a Greek hero getting WWE type of commentary from Hermes live. that’s hilarious

"It's almost as if Odysseus hasn't learned a single thing." That made me laugh out loud 😂

@luc-i-guess

5 ай бұрын

but he did after all, using honesty and honour with Circe saved him and his men

I like that when Odysseus says "I can't!" to Circe, you can hear Penelope's motif play in the background, telling you exactly what he's thinking before he even says it.

About the "12 long years" line in There Are Other Ways, Jorge revealed yesterday that he made a mistake and it _was_ supposed to be 10 years. 😂 But he's also said he imagines Odysseus adding two more years to help gain Circe's sympathy, rather than being bad at math.

@danylonazarov

5 ай бұрын

But he actually unintentionally made it right, because in myth Odysseus spends 7 years with Callisto and before that 1 years with Circe, meaning he and his men might arrive on Circe's island 2 years after departing form Troy, as he gets home 10 years after troy (10-7-1=2, 2+10(years of war) = 12 years since Odysseus saw Penelope

@fiaghost4759

5 ай бұрын

oh my god this man CANNOT stop lying

@kittycatzuka

5 ай бұрын

@@fiaghost4759 Considering Odysseus is canonically the great-grandson of Hermes, the god of trickery and cunning, is it really that surprising that he's good at lying?

@fiaghost4759

5 ай бұрын

@@kittycatzuka i mean yeah, it's just such a vulnerable moment arter he rejects Circe and tells her about Penelope, and yet he can't help but lie again. (i love him for that honesty, such a fun character)

@KingsBard

5 ай бұрын

But isn't his honesty the reason she even cares?

My favorite is definitely "There Are Other Ways". When Odysseus snaps out of Circe's seduction and is like "I CAN'T!" and the violin enters with the melody of "Penelope..." from previous songs, it's such a brilliant moment. Especially in the context of Jorge's commentary, how Circe was about to stab Odysseus if he gave in and kissed her.

For an explanation: The last time Circe let men in they SA’d her. So now she takes no chances. Which is why she trusts him when he thinks with his heart not his nether regions.

@nottellingya9887

5 ай бұрын

But that's not canon

@rustyattacker

5 ай бұрын

​@@nottellingya9887 Nope, in canon she left him no option but to sleep with her or she would've killed him or the men she turned.

@nottellingya9887

5 ай бұрын

@ryantorres448 yeah I know that too. I meant that we know nothing of Circe's life before Odysseus came to her island

@DarkestNova556

5 ай бұрын

@@nottellingya9887It’s a seperate story but considering we have no idea what happened before yet she says “The last time we let strangers live” she’s referring to SOMETHING specific. Jorge wouldn’t add it for no reason and this seems to be the only thing noted.

11:52 For Hermes I'm pretty sure he just wanted to help since Odysseus is actually his great grandson. So he pretty much wants the dude to make it back home. You see Odysseus's grandfather is Autolycus, who is a son of Hermes. So yeah Odysseus is a legacy of Hermes.

@animepianistpalmer6670

5 ай бұрын

Hermes was sent by Athena to help Odysseus. Jorge's writing brilliantly conveys this with the harmonies in the chorus being sung by the vocalist of Athena.

@laura_gieger

5 ай бұрын

@@animepianistpalmer6670THAT actually blows my mind. and it makes so much sense omg

@eternal-void

5 ай бұрын

@@animepianistpalmer6670 honestly that also works. Didn't think about that.

@animenerd4173

5 ай бұрын

@@animepianistpalmer6670thank you! Dude I swear I heard Athena singing as well

She doesn’t drug people, she uses actual magic as a witch

Moly, the drug referenced in the Odessey was a root with a black stem and white flower. Hermes gives it to Odysseus to protect him from Circe’s magic. In Epic, the writer changed what moly can do. In Epic it can make you manifest a monster to defeat your opponent, so Odysseus summons from his imagination, the specter of Polyphemus, which defeats Circe’s Chimera monster(that’s why you heard Polyphemus’s roar in “Done For”) That doesn’t happen in the original text. In that, moly simply protects you from spells, so when Circe tries to change Odysseus into a pig with her potions and magic wand, she can’t, and he defeats her. Scholars have argued as to what Moly actually is, some have argued it’s fictional, others say it’s wild garlic. Also, Poseidon in Ruthlessness is a change from the original Odessey. In the original text, all but 43 of Odysseus’s 600 men are killed by cannibal Laestragonian giants. In Epic, Poseidon kills all the men, leaving only one ship, with Odysseus’s 43 crew alive. There are many changes form the source material in Epic, but it’s still a great musical project and for the most part is surprisingly loyal to the source material.

@Kamarovsky_KCM

5 ай бұрын

brb, eating garlic by the handfuls so I can also summon a Cyclops to defeat my foes

Hermes is not only Odysseus' ancestor he is also a god of travelers which Odysseus has definitely been traveling for a quite a bit at this point.

Another thing in the song "There Are Other Ways" is that when Circe is starting to seduce Odysseus, Odysseus starts talking about how all the mistakes he made will be the last he makes, copying what Circe said when she was bewitching his men. This is because Circe is successfully putting a spell on him. Hermes told him that the moly would only last until he defeated his opponent. Once he was done fighting Circe, the protection wore off and she was able to start putting a spell on him. It was only his love for Penelope and his devotion to get home that rescued him from the spell at the last moment before Circe tried to stab him with him puppeted. It really goes to show just how much he really would "trade the world to see his son and wife." He would kill an innocent baby and fight off even the spells of a deity. knowing the snippets of the future, the amount of things he would do for this purpose will only grow.

Hermes is one of the 12 Olympians, has a lot of sway and in general is known for helping others just because, one of his epithets (titles) is Friend of Man

The first notes of the saga recall the words "If I don't return. Then 600 people will make the whole place burn" from the previous saga. Probably memories. And the appearance of Hermes makes sense - he is the deity of travelers and those fleeing from punishment

@LacyMeyers-yq9iu

5 ай бұрын

I can hear the "make this whole place burn" line but think it is a nod to "Legendary" Telemachus' song, The part where he says, "I've no idea if you're dead or just too far" potentially implying that that song happens at the same time just across the sea; hence Odysseus looking out to the see in the scene description.

@JSz-dp8bu

5 ай бұрын

@@LacyMeyers-yq9iu I checked and I can hear it, but I doubt it's happening at the same time. Most of the story is supposed to go without flashbacks, so the good song about Odysseus meeting Penelope was removed. The second argument is that the song is much sadder and is supposed to resemble something we know. I can agree that it is a harbinger of a character, like in Poseidon they give a short melody to herald future events

1:20 just wanted to point out that the melody after this, foreshadows something. (For those who haven’t seen/heard it, I suggest you scroll because of spoilers.) But in Calypso’s song “Not sorry for loving you” has this as her main melody. So it foreshadows Calypso. Really cool detail in that. And in the entire Ocean Saga, (before Ruthlessness) has brass instruments sprinkled in the songs. Jay said that Poseidon’s instruments are brass, so the entire saga before his song foreshadows Poseidon coming. There is a TON of foreshadowing and references to other/future songs that I could point them out for hours . But this is already long enough lol

I love how Hermes song can have the double meaning of a battle or seducing Circe "the fight lasts for hours" "I'll help you conquer her", and the swagger that the singer brings to him, his song has been one of my absolute favorites

During the fight in Done For Circe summons her Chimera, which is the roar, and Odysseus uses the Holy Moly to either summon or turn into a cyclops to fight (unsure if it's specifically a copy of Polyphemus or just a generic cyclops)

@area52ron

2 ай бұрын

Well I mean the creator plays Odysseus and Polyphemus

In regards to the Cyclops 14:55: For this saga's release Jorge came out with a little watch along (its on youtube cause there were so many people it crashed the streaming site and discord). In the video they have little subtitles of whats happening alongside the music. However for that part of the song they got Mircsy (same artist who made the survive animatic you reacted to) to make a scene for this for the release. Circe summons a Chimara and Odysseus a Cyclops ^_^

It's been a long time since I read 'THE ODYSSEY' but I believe Hermes is helping Odysseus because Athena asked him to. Being the God of Messages he is used in many fables to help the characters being the messanger of other Gods. Jorge's music conveys that Athena sent him brilliantly as well. The harmonies in 'wouldn't you like' are sung by the vocalist of Athena showing her intent. Jorge has many subtle story telling moments like this (obvious one in this saga is the Penelope motif being played when Odysseus says "I Can't").

@maiarafigueiredo1418

5 ай бұрын

Wow, I didn't realize it was her doing the harmonies

I'm a hugeee fan of Wouldn't You Like. I usually hate making animations but I love that song so much and I have so many ideas that I've been making an animatic for it

I saw someone say this on a different epic video but loved it. They described Hermes as never having a horse in the race, but he’ll throw in an apple just to see what’ll happen.

As for the context between the end of Done For and the start of There Are Other Ways, after Odysseus corners Circe with a dagger, she tries to seduce him (everyone's true colours are revealed in acts of lust). In Jorge's livestream, the accompanying video showed that during the first verse There Are Other Ways, Circe is manipulating Odysseus (so much power, but there's no puppet here), through the course of the verse takes his dagger away and while they're about to kiss she's planning to stab him in the throat, but Odysseus refusing her (I can't - the next verse about Penelope) makes Circe change her mind and help him instead.

Hermes also has a bit of on and off love situation with Circe and is chaotic in general. It feels like he just kinda wanted to see what would happen lmao

In 'Wouldn't You Like' Hermes gives Odysseus the herb/flower Moly and he eats it while Hermes sings. When you hear the 'ooooohhh' that is after Odysseus got the glow up, ate the flower and starts to feel the power. Also Hermes told Ody that he can summon a creature he just has to imagine it and i love that it is a cyclops because of the call back to the Cyclops Saga and that Ody knows how strong a Cyclops is. In 'Done for' Circe summons her chimera (the first roar), Odysseus summons his Cyclops (the roar you heard) and they fight (like Pokémons). That is what you hear in the background and with the roar and you can hear how Odysseus gets his dagger and at the end of the song he stands very near before Circe with the blade on her throat. In 'There Are Other Way' Circe tries to seduce Odysseus, while she tries to get control over him and show that men really are pigs. It works at first, the more he is singing with her, his dobts etc. are her influencing him slowly and while he is trapped in her seduction she takes the dagger, gets him to sit down and as soon as he would kiss her she would kill him by pushing the blade into his neck. The 'there's no puppet here' is really funny because we know she is a puppeteer and she takes control over Odysseus and he is the puppet. But then (musical-)Odysseus thinks of Penelope (the motif you can hear after 'I can't!' is Penelopes motif) and says no. That has her kind of surprised, she hides the dagger and listens. She references the act of kindness to what she is doing for Odysseus and his crew. That she helps them will maybe lead to kinder people who land on her island and don't just want to kill or do yk what to her and her nymphs.

When Circe seduces Odysseus she is actaully casting spells there ot atleast that how it can be taken in, but yea i really love the change done here since Odysseus is changed to be a loyal husband unlike the orginal one wich kind adds more to atleast this story. Anyway there are other animativs for the future saga they are pretty good but of course songs are from clips so they arent "fully" ready but they are sitll really good and you might think as beta versions of the future versions still would recommend it strongly to react to them Also dude behind Hermes absolutly killed it and yes he has that charisma and presence when playing him.

one thing i love about eury going "it's a game of wits but you dont have to play" is that. this is ODYSSEUS we're talking about. a game of wits is his favourite kind of game!!

One cool thing is that Talya, who sings for Circe is Jay’s girlfriend!

18:22 Jorge did confirm 12 was a mistake. It’s only supposed to have been 10 years. But we can headcannon him as having lost 2 years to being stuck

In the original saga i believe Odysseus actually sleeps with Circe (who has a child or two to him) and stays there for a year or two

@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201

5 ай бұрын

Telegonus, if memory serves. Who ends up killing Odysseus. Oh, and Telemachus becomes the lover of Circe and Telegonus, the lover of Penelope. Yeah that one’s weird.

@Noveltea1113

5 ай бұрын

@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201I’m sorry HWAT

@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201

5 ай бұрын

@@Noveltea1113 That’s just normal Greek stuff. At least it wasn’t incest this time.

@Noveltea1113

5 ай бұрын

@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 oh golly, thanks for the warning

@fenrirswolh3

4 ай бұрын

​@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 ....I'm sorry, this time?

18:26 Actually Jay posted a tiktok where he explains that meant to say “it’s been ten long years” but said “it’s been twelve long years” instead

Just binge watched the other epic videos of you 🤭 this came in perfectly after!

The reactions for Epic were awesome, thanks for doing this, I'm happy you enjoyed it! Now the wait for the Underworld saga begins...

I think the whole point of the gods versus mortals having different ideals is that there are examples of them both being correct. Odysseus has good and bad consequences for both sparing and killing his opponents.

The roar that you hear is from a Chimera that Circe summons. In fact, to produce the roar, Jorge combined the trumpet of an elephant, the roar of a lion and another animal that I can’t remember.

The roar is actually from a chimera that Circe summons to attack Odysseus. if you watch the Circe Saga watch party they actually show an animatic of the chimera fighting Odysseus who turns into a cyclops to combat her magic, as well as a description of whats happening in the scene

11:20 Hermes is Odysseus’s great great grandfather. So he does have a steak in seeing him get home. But Hermes also is a trickster by nature. Think of him as the loki of green pantheon. He is always looking to stir the pot a bit.

Hermes is a trickster god, so he could be helping Odysseus, a fellow trickster, for kicks

I've listened to this on a daily basis and I never noticed the cyclops roar! While waiting for the next saga would you consider checking out hadestown? It's a folk/blues/ jazz musical based on the orpheus and eurydices myth(son of a muse goes to the underworld)

Ive listened to this song about 50 times by now and though i saw Mircsy's vid, I had no idea that was the Polyphemus's yell. How are you so good at listening!? thats awesome!

@whatitdodave

5 ай бұрын

Apparently it was Circes Chimera that was yelling, as I’m told by the comments 😅

@Macabrellian

5 ай бұрын

@@whatitdodave It's both! Circe's Chimera comes in first, and Odysseus uses his memory of Polyphemus to summon a cyclops to counter it.

@RayGainbows

5 ай бұрын

nah dude, When you mentioned that i opened up Survive on Spotify and thats the same roar. You were dead on! @@whatitdodave

Your reasoning of why the title of puppeteer is bestowed on Circe is really intelligent. What you had to say about puppeteers controlling or giving life to the ones that are unable to control their emotions is a very good observation and I am really interested in what you have to say about the rest of the musical ( and what you have said already since I first watched your reaction to the Circe saga ), can't wait to see some more of your reactions.

Odysseus is a relative of Hermes that is why he wanted to help him, he is his great-grandson.

15:12 YOU'RE CORRECT!! That was indeed a Cyclops roar in the background! The flower (Moly) that Hermes gave Odysseus gave him the ability to conjure up a monster to battle and defeat Circe and Odysseus chose to conjure up a Cyclops!

@umcharley

5 ай бұрын

this is however only EPIC specific

If you want the full story, you should still go watch the Live Watch Party, but either way, you have GOT to see some of Jorge's actual content 😂 He has a whole goofy series with Hermes, it's great. And he and Circe's actress are actually a couple, so they do scene reenactments, and he does the same with the other characters' actors. In Done For - they each summon monsters to fight for them, and Ody summons a Cyclops with a club and Circe summons a Chymera. And then when she loses, she resorts to seducing him, putting him under her control momentarily before he breaks out of it.

I love how Odysseus is so loyal to Penelope! Circe is trying to seduce him, thinking he would fall easily for her so she can kill him, but his mind and heart belongs to his wife. Yes, it’s been 12 long years (actually 10) but he still remains loyal to her and refuses to give into another woman, no matter how tempting, powerful, and magical she is because his wife is the one he loves most and will do everything to get back to her! And Circe respects that. She knows what it’s like to be in love and respects his loyalty to his true love.

@Shadeius

4 ай бұрын

To be more precise: He's faithful in this musical. In actual myths he sired quite a lot of kids on this decade long journey. With Circe specifically he had three or four kids (depending on the telling) with Telegonus being the most famous of them.

I've always interpreted it as Hermes wanting to make the fight between Circe and Odysseus more balanced because it would be more entertaining to watch

@fern_8729

5 ай бұрын

In theory, Hermes helps Ody because he is sent by Athena (in fact, in the song Wouldn't You Like, the one who does the harmonies in the chorus is the one who plays Athena)

17:47 i don't think Circe is aknowledging much. my interpretation is that she's trying to trick Odysseus. Making him think that his actions are his own, yet he's singing her tune

Lampyrcy has actually just released an animatic for Puppeteer! They made the luck runs out animatic you reacted to

first off, happy 15 years with your wife! 🥰 that made me smile, and also i love how into it you are and its so exciting to hear all your thoughts and hear youre getting other people into it! INITIATION MWUAHAHA

“Wouldn’t You Like” is genuinely one of my favorites so far. IT’S SO GOOD!!!

I agree, Done For is definitely my favorite of these songs. Also, I'd say the Circe Saga is my favorite part of the musical overall so far. All the songs are just sooo good!

@15:05 YOU GOT IT HOLY SHIT YOURE ONE OF THE ONLY REACTIONS IVE SEEN WHO CAUGHT THATTT

"Odysseus didn't learn a single thing." That's _The Odyssey._ You literally just summarized _The Odyssey_ in six words. 🤣

7:51 Bro all of the songs with Hermes go so hard IMO 🔥

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEEEE

Moly (Greek: μῶλυ, moly) is a magical herb mentioned in book 10 of Homer's Odyssey. In the story, Hermes gave this herb to Odysseus to protect him from Circe's magic, when he went to her home to rescue his friends.

Hi! Just wanted to say that WolfyTheWitch has great (unfinished) animations fro the circe saga, just suggesting that you may want to check it out along with the Lyrics videos :)

In the song- wouldnt you like hermes says “take this root and you will be able to conjure a being of your imagination” so the sound of polythemus is odysseys summoning a Cyclops to fight the creature that circe called at the beginning of the song

Hermes laugh is incredible, I’ve been looking forward to this saga but had no idea Hermes was going to be such a treat.

IDK man I have a theory re Hermes, either he's doing it for the family connection (Ody is his great grandson), or he's doing it for Athena (because I'm 99% sure shes' still looking out for him), or he's just doing it 'cause he's bored, it's totally something he would do xD Hermes has big "do it for the vine" energy

@bearhugzfam649

4 ай бұрын

Oh dang yeah I never noticed the cyclops roar but that's totally what it is. Jay actually commissioned an animatic of the fight scene that he included in the launch and yeah, the monster Ody manifests is a cyclops, he even starts out without a club then pulls it out at the perfect moment when Circe's chimera is charging him, turning the tide of the fight with the hidden weapon just as things were turned on him and his men by Polyphemus

15:08 yes. He summons a cyclops to defeat circe using the moly root. Since Circe can summon a chimera to protect her and her palace

So, from Homer's Odyssey, in book X Odysseus is recounting his story to the Phaeacians (the Odyssey starts towards the end of his journey and all the things that happened before are told by Odysseus himself) and he is telling his encounter with Circe. Before reaching her house, Hermes comes to Odysseus saying to him to take this "medicine" against which Circe's magical drinks are useless. Then, when Circe tries to use essentially a magic wand on him, he has to intimidate her with his sword. The god also basically tells him not to refuse to sleep with her when she will ask to marry him, so that she can release his men and become his friend, but he has to make her swear by the gods not to try anything against him. Odysseus then describes the herb: (translating from the text) "When he finished talking he gave me the healthy herb already picked up by him, and nature divides it this way: the root is brown, the flower milky white; the gods call it moly: it resists a mortal hand that wants to pick it up from the ground; it yields to the gods, who can achieve everything". And then Hermes goes away and Odysseus goes to Circe's house.

it bears mentioning that the short video jorge and tayla made to tease the release of this saga, set to the last song "there are other ways", had Circe seducing Odysseus to take the "dagger" (spoon) out of his hand and almost stabs him with it before he pulls away

17:45 YESSSS CHARACTER MIRRORS!!!

Remember that hermes said Circe can conjure up a monster, that sound that you are hearing in done for is that monster. She summons up a chimera and thats the roar you hear its a mix of animals that make up the chimera which i think is a lion, goat and snake?

Wouldn't You Like or Hermes song is my absolute favorite Done For almost needs an animatic to properly illustrate that Odysseus and Circe are locked in combat during the song summoning a Cyclops and Chimera respectively otherwise UNDERWORLD SAGA wait begins! Because like any good Greek hero Odysseus took his mandatory trip to Hades

The Penelope viola after "I can't!" always gives me chills. Jorge is a musical genius. Not to mention all the callbacks to previous songs in "There Are Other Ways".

When Odysseus saids “I can’t” it’s when the viola plays at 18:04 it’s when you know he’s going to talk about Penelope back at Ithaca and Jorge is trying to make up another head cannon of either he makes Odysseus bad at numbers, he added 2 years to make Circe feel bad or something else I forgot :) Hope that helps

Typically his name is pronounced Yu-Rih-Lih-Kuss

@whatitdodave

5 ай бұрын

E-Man it is 🤣. Imma get that wrong when I’m getting lost in my thoughts trying to comprehend and state what I’m thinking during these reactions.

In the original Odysseus sleeps with Circe and leaves before the child is born (in some she has three sons with him) and because Athena knows the child is gonna kill Odysseus she tries to kill the baby but Circe stops her and later lets her son go off to meet his father were Odysseus then attacks him not knowing who he is causing Telegonous to stab his father with a poison tipped spear that his mother Circe gave him for protection so Telegonous feels kinda bad and takes Penelope and Telemachus back to Aeaea (the island that cire is exiled on for Turing her cousin into Scylla the sea monster) were Telegonous falls in love with Penelope and Telemachus falls in love with Circe and in some she turns then immortal sorry I wrote a whole paragraph i just love Greek mythology😁

Full Speed Ahead, Remember Them, Ruthlessness, and Wouldn’t You Like are my favorites from each saga

“This is the price, we pay to live, the world does not, tend to forgive” Good line.

Hey, this is my video, I really appreciate that you have reacted to it, thank you❤

@whatitdodave

5 ай бұрын

Thank you too!

I feel like I heard Athena in Wouldn’t you like? Like I hear a woman’s voice that sounds like Athena so maybe Athena maybe tricked Odysseus to make him grow up, whilst still helping him without his knowledge like she’s sorta manipulating the other gods to help him yet teach him? Edit: at like 10:28 you can hear a faint singing of a woman

Circe's singer is Talya Sindel, Jorge's very own real life girlfriend❤❤

I actually hope this does become a song cause I love how tough and ruthless Odysseus sounds

Also you can find the original voice actors acting their song

*Rubs hands together* Oh this is gonna be goood! Can’t wait till the Calypso song. For sure a tug at the heartstrings as someone who has been through unrequited love.

I have a playlist with most of the animations for this album. Just missing one in case anyone would like to check it out. People are so quick with this!

BigEpicGuy69 made a compilation of every clip Jorge has put out in order! You can pretty much listen to the entire musical. There are two songs missing and some parts of songs are missing but they update it whenever a bunch of new clips come out.

Yeah, done for is a great song it's my favourite song within this video

Heck yeahhhhhh drag your friends into this musical >:D 🎶❤️

@14:55 Nice catch! It's in the script that, while Circe summoned a Chimera, Odysseus used the power of the Moly to summon a Cyclops. The Cyclops wins :)

Done for is my favorite, the way the high notes strike, umpph so good

There are now animatics of Circe's saga fyi. Like search up essentially Epic musical animaticas and at least a few pop up now i think if you want to check them out

The funniest thing is that i just found out that an animatic of puppeteer got posted 1 hour before this video😭😭😭

Mate, “Puppeteer” and “wouldn’t you like” have has both gotten animatic a few days ago, so maybe you can do a reaction on them it would be great to see. Puppeteer by Lampyrcy & Wouldn’t you like by Ximena Natzel

As others have mentioned, Hermes is Odysseus’ maternal great-grandfather, so that’s likely a significant part of reason he helps out with the Moly. In the original text it is also indicated that actually Athena sent Hermes to help out, but I’m not sure if that’s included in Epic in any way

You mentioned it earlier, but Eurylochus is indeed Odysseus's brother-in-law. He's married to Ctimene, Odysseus's younger sister.

Wolfe the witch does have a Wouldn’t you like short clip-

Eurylochus wanting to confess his secret but not being able too ;-;

woohoo 35 minutes ago good thing to wake up to. Troy Music is a hella good Hermes just like how Steven Rodriguez is a hell of a Poseidon.

Its not actually called holy Moly , hermes named it 😂. Moly was the actual name of the magic plant.

"Want to save your men from the fire? Show me that you're willing to burn." Considering the form his men are in at the moment, I can't be the only one that instantly thought of bacon, right? 🤣

common sense has been chasing him his entire life, but damn if Odysseus isn't faster

Another little note that I've heard other people bring up, the number in "the underworld" would be inaccurate if you believe that no one died after Poseidon killed all but 43 of the men, but apparently when they were on cersei's island one of the men got drunk on the roof of her palace and fell and broke his neck, apparently Jorge was going to bring that up in " the underworld " but he felt it made it too comedic, and he just left the number in, which is fitting because the man who died on cersei's Island literally only exists to die and then be forgotten about

Circe is a goddess of magic, as is her mother, Hecate, so she's got a LOT of power.

Personally, I've always interpreted the "one act of kindness" as being her decision to help, like by making that decision shes making the world better

Odysseus is Hermes great grandson though idk if Odysseus knows this so it’s like a relative helping out a younger one, Hermes just seems like he’s taking Odysseus side and watching over him kind of. So Circe does actually use magic the flower Odysseus ate is a magical flower that basically gives him her power for a limited amount of time. So the men are actually pigs a roar in the background is that these two are turning into beasts fighting each other! Odysseus turned into a cyclops type creature and Circe turned into a chimera or sent a chimera after him that you can see in this Saga’s art in the stain glass! (I know this is because the creature Jay uploaded an animation showing that specific fight scene during the live watch when it first came out on Valentine’s Day)

If you watch the live stream they show that during the done for show down that it's a battle between monsters and one of them is the cyclops

Hermes is a trickster. That's what his main goal was. Plus, he's Odysseus's great-grandfather, so he's helping family.

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