Wt a way to start the Day . It cant get better than this .Grt to see u again gene !

Gene was kind enough to allow me to spend 30 minutes or so listening to his monster system and it is truly amazing! The term that I kept using was effortless. I am still a Paradigm guy, but must admit that RBH has me impressed for sure, this was definitely the best system that I have yet to encounter on my journey. Thanks again Gene!

@Audioholics

3 жыл бұрын

Paradigm is a great brand too. Was a pleasure having you over Jared.

Awesome speakers! I would love to hear those babies one day! Enjoy!

And listening to this through RBH Sidekick...which I love.

A simple glimpse of the SVTRS's in one of 'ur recent videos prompted me, a few days ago, to place an order for 4 x 8" DVC woofers along with 3 x 4" mids for each of 7 matching towers for a total of 49 drivers. Tweet, crossover, and box type(s) TBD. But would be stacked just as these SVTRS's as they HIT me immediately as a design that's got so much right! I've also picked up the OmniMic v2 & DATS v3 combo pack. Along with 2 micro SD cards to document and maybe archive here on YT? Hopefully. GREAT discussion, inspiration, design and build guys! Beautiful!!! 8D (Ps; also just built a Metal Maslow CNC, waiting on delivery of a raspberry Pi for Web Control. Good things to come!)

My company Sifa Design Group has been using Digital DSP with high end Lab Gruppen and Linea amplifiers to do this for years. When you utilize Fir and Allpass filters correctly and have a robust measuring system (Tef, Easra etc) it’s a thing of beauty. PS: RBH rocks and it’s our go to speaker system for most high end Resi applications.

Great stuff Gene. Just love these no holds barred designs with DSP. I love the LCR in-wall version as I’m a multi-channel cinema guy.

Those would probably be the end of a speaker road for me - what a speakers ( imposing looks, active concept dynamicly adjustable to your needs, performance measurements) I'm inclined to rename them to Memento as the current technical nomenclature doesn't seem to do justice for them. Again, great to see you guys ;-)).

I have a soft spot for AMT drivers, always love to see them getting used. For my first stereo system back in 1975 or 76 I went with ESS AMT5's. I thought they sounded great to my inexperienced ears back then, my receiver was a Marantz 2270, famous for getting burned, with a huge 70W output.

Great video!! I've been dreaming of speakers with a beryllium tweeter thanks to your description of how well they perform but this also sounds amazing. Looking forward to follow up video

I own 30 year old Pioneer Elite TZ-7s. Before I found these for sale, I was seriously considering a pair of RBH speakers, they had some good prices on some of their floor standing speakers and even bookshelves but I then found these Advent CS-310 speakers and really they are good enough for now. Maybe in the future if I get a new place and larger room I'll see if a newer pair of speakers suits me better.

I currently have three RBH C-770 L/C/R and it creates quite a nice wall of sound up front on an Outlaw 5000. Pretty cool to see the much much much bigger brother. Same beautiful aluminum woofers though...I am going to show my wife this video and tell her I got the itch just to see her give me that look. When one of my friends saw the RBH exposed woofers the first time he said, "Those speakers are really Van Halen!"... Well the bad boys in this video are REALLY REALLY Van Halen!

Hi looking at your latest video wondering when you will have the Storm Audio installed and reviewed? Thanks

YES! I want a set! but probably without the top subs. One thing I don't understand is why FIR filter obsessive tuning all active systems are more common. My senior project as an Electrical Engineer was taking a Yamaha Receiver, hijacking the digital audio right before the DACs, pulling it into an FPGA, FIR filtering it with 1024 taps each to only crossover the Mid to High, then injecting it back into the receiver while borrowing one of the surround pairs as the extra amp chain and of course, driving a pair of RBH 661SEs. I loved the results then, but I don't know why it isn't as popular. I realize that IIR Bi-Quads just WAY easier to implement and they're computational easier too, but this isn't rocket science, just Electrical Engineering science! :-) You just can't beat perfect Linear Phase from both the tweeter and mid range. It adds a smooth detail and clarity in those transitions frequencies that is hard to come by. It blends so perfectly. Can't freaking wait.

nicee. Isn't the screen size of the future HT room too small compared to the distance to the sitting area?

Wish I had the funds and the room for these monster speakers. Digital tech marches on!

Love my RBH Sv-831/R , Sv-1212NR speakers there build quality is incredible. Will be getting the SI-831r for my center channel and use the SI-663/r that i currently was planing to use it for my center channel for my family room as my wife will love this speakers that don't take up space. Will be getting 2 more SV-1212NR for my back row of subs.

Full digital control between the source and dac i find very appealing :) think i understand it that this system does that. A system that can take my spotify music output from my pc with usb to a external processor with dac and full parametric eq available so i can use a tone generator and listen myself and have my pc monitor display the parametric eq and i can and adjust it realtime quick and easy. I went to Marani Pro Audio website and looked up lpp480f and one spec that is a problem.... Delay: 480.998ms 10.4us increment/decrement steps per input, 340.998ms 10.4us increment/decrement steps per output. that is half a second delay from input to output. i also need a big volume knob and remote of course.

What time do you want me there? 😬

Gene, have you talked with Storm audio about integrating this kind of dsp crossover matrix into their prepro?

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. It is possible but it's not quite as powerful as the Marani. I will be trying both when they ship me the product this summer. Very interesting experiment and good question.

Were the 8t's $50k a pair when they originally released? If so, DAMN!

Should get three pairs and use them for the side and rear surrounds too!

Wow that is awesome ...man I wished I could get a system like that at some point who knows what the future hold but until then I will just watch you lol love the info and all the people that work with you gene that brings us this info appreciated

I'm excited about your new house and future home theater, with those speakers would be perfect, I was wondering is a trinnov audio altitude 32 is in your new project, God bless you and your family.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Not the Trinnov, although that's a fantastic piece. I'm getting the Storm Audio bc it has some features I really need for this project.

@staplquad8297

4 жыл бұрын

Audioholics are you moving

I was under the impression that linear phase filters resulted in pre- and post-ringing as opposed to only post-ringing in minimum phase filters. Can you elaborate on what sort of linear filter is being used that eliminates ringing?

@2000thx

4 жыл бұрын

James Henry, because they were able to eliminate ringing, I think they’re keeping that secret sauce recipe close hold.

Hey guys, this is really interesting products. The one challenge I have seen with pairing of air motion transformer to dynamic drivers is that there sometimes seem to be some disconnection of some sort, like the drivers play different songs. I am not sure what this comes from, different topologies, directivity issues or something else. However, most of the speakers I seen with this combo have some sort of integration problem, easily audible. Have you had any of these issues? I assume RBH fixed this somehow 😊

God those speakers are dreamy, Congrats Gene we are all envious. I just checked their website, under products- tower speakers, there are only 2 different series listed Signature SV and Status. The SV series start at 13K for towers, am I missing something? They don't make any towers any cheaper than that anymore? They used to have a few mid-priced tower options my dreams are dashed. I currently own 661-SE's and 4 of their subs for my main rig.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

I think they are going through a major product revamp right now so stay tuned...

I am assuming that this approach is similar to the Legacy products with their Wavelet?

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes from what I've seen in how both systems are tuned. Great minds think alike.

I dont mind being hooked 2 a machine cus I sold both my kidneys to get this😘 And I get to meet Shane, thatsxworth 45k right there!🤩 I want those inwalls 831rs to go behind my screen. Will those be available soon from rbhs site? as traveling to a dealer isn't an option for me with my health problems n such. Also, is price around 2k for the inwall 831rs? Oh, what was the center used in this video, I couldn't make that out on my phone? Awesome stuff Gene and Shane! You guys are nuts in the best way!😘🤓👍

చాలా బాగుంది.... మీ రివ్యూ

@ourlittlecakery9177

4 жыл бұрын

M V Siva Rao, I see what you’re saying but it’s not that easy lol 😆

Can someone explain why we never hear the product your showing? It would be nice 😊.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

You can't "Hear" a product through youtube. Instead you will hear a combination of direct + reflected sound in my room processed through youtube compression and then played back on your equipment. It doesn't resemble at all the sound of the device we are reviewing.

@TomCamies

4 жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics are you seriously trying to tell me that i can't "recreate" these $45,000 speakers on my mono smart phone speaker? Get outta here.

Will we see a raffle for giveaway of your old speakers? Or do you already have a new destination for them?

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Nice try. I traded them back to RBH Sound.

Just have one question why do you need 5000 W in one small room we're not talkin about a freaking Stadium

I don't know all the specifics but the last few generations of pro line arrays have been fully dsp controlled. Basically they fly the rig then the tech measures and adjusts the eq (and other parameters I'm sure) to match the venue. Good to see this control finally coming home.

arnt they too large for the size of the room? weve always been told that speakers can get too big for the room..

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

my room is 6,000ft^3. Ceiling height is 8ft. They fit and project well.

@SwirlingDragonMist

4 жыл бұрын

This question is very interesting, I feel it's a meaningful consideration with passive loudspeaker systems, as both they and the room are fixed. Questions of harmonics between the resonance of speaker cabinets, and the resonance of the room. Very interesting. I feel measuring the room may even be an intriguing way of shopping for speakers, to reference a database of options to match the needs of the room. I'd be interested if anyone else would be interested in pursuing such a thing.

Wow wow wow wow👌. Gene alwayz rockz

Looks like built-in miniDSP config for every channel.

Gene obviously there are more elements to the tuning than just eq of the speaker. How is what these can do so different in result than normal eq in a preamp?

@adamkonstantinou3443

4 жыл бұрын

This is not your everyday AVR EQ. For sure their DSP will be fixing phase issues, obviously frequency curves, correction of speaker impulse, time alignment and maybe some other things too. This is faaaar from what a simple EQ curve does. Like what Dirac, REW, Trinnov do as software solutions.

$45K? I'll take two!

Monsters!

The DSP configuration capability sounds really intriguing. I would imagine that technology could also be applied to smaller speakers to tailor the sound to both room and preference. I’ll be following as you release more details.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they have same technology in their PM-8s.

@Paulkatz123

4 жыл бұрын

Give a google to mini dsp and measure with rew. Apply dsp to any speaker that way

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

@@Paulkatz123 mDSP is not SOTA but sure similar concept.

@ripewave

4 жыл бұрын

Audioholics - that makes sense that the miniDSP not providing the same level of performance. What captured my attention was the crossover being entirely in the digital domain. That is something that needs the speakers full participation and would not be accomplished with just an add-on box like the miniDSP.

Loudspeaker designers beware! Gene just compared flagship systems with the creator himself. You just can't bullshit Gene D. He's gangsta...

Gene needs a new chair maybe also? Thanks Gene for all you hard work.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Haha no doubt. I sold all my theater chairs since I'm having new ones built for the Smart Home project.

Hey! thanks to RBH for finally building a speaker that belongs in 2020. Imagine its 2001, Lake Contour 226, 2 Warner Imaging VTE-201, 2 Bryston 7BST. 4 Skaaning 10", ATC mid and Dynaudio Esotar tweeter. Square wave in square wave out. Passive speakers are a joke, Congrats Gene! Gene why not think about the Quantum logic or dolby atmos pro processors used in real theaters? They are AES out or Blu-link to AES via BSS processors.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm I don't have access to those type of products, unfortunately. Also, I need modern HDMI interfacing. Storm Audio has an incredible solution in their Mark2 processor with AES outs.

I'm working a deal for my fourth powered JBL PB10 subwoofer (cheap but functionally sound) right now, all because of the fantastic ability to gain match them all and proceed to dialing them in with mini DSP pro and Room EQ Wizard. I've got my grandkids so pumped to play games in the cave! It's gonna be great! Thanks to you and to theater gurus and all the others that work tirelessly in this space for the betterment of home audio. 👍🏼 And thanks to Paul McGowan for peddling the last few viscous drops of venomous oil slowly dripping from the empty vial! It's fun to troll the nut hugger contingent that cling tenaciously to his hairy beanbags as they hang on every anecdotal "fact" that comes from his mouth. -✌🏼

I need to be Rich... People, help me out.

@mizake01

4 жыл бұрын

me first

@jnagarya519

4 жыл бұрын

@@mizake01 Uhuh -- ME first.

@wa2368

4 жыл бұрын

Set up a gofundme and state that you will perish if you don't have this speaker system. It might work if 40k people chipped in a dollar each! Easy Peasy

50k speakers 100usd seats..... commitment :)

10 hz is insane and im sure their earthmovers, both are winners by the looks of it.

@johnsweda2999

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I get it. it may be for films important? I don't know if they leave it in, But for music is not desirable you just cut off at 20 Hz because there's a lot of noise below that frequency what muddy the sound the bass you ideally want 36 DB slope cut off at 20 Hz

@robbielex

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnsweda2999 I'm sure you can handle that with the DSP.

i have had this in my DEQX based active systems for the last 10 to 14 years --just shows how advanced DEQX have been. Watching further 15.30 Gene goes on about being one of the first to be digital to the speaker - I think he should ring DEQX Australia and hear the laughter they have had that for at least 10 years -many only scratch the surface of what DEQX can achieve but fully implemented the results are incredible -and fully digital is the way to go astonishing !

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

It's definitely one of the first integrated into a home theater application. Very few AV processors have digital outputs to do this. Storm Audio and JBL Synthesis are among a handful I can count on one hand and still have fingers remaining. Please list other Atmos based processors with this feature.

I'd love to see this stuff compared to modern commercial cinema equipment. Cinema gear is what movies are mixed for. And it's typically much more powerful and cheaper than high end snake oil home cinema gear. For example you can get a dual 18" QSC subwoofer for around $1,100, and the QSC amplifier with DSP built in to drive it for around the same price.

$45 grand is a lot of cash for a speaker but cheaper that a yacht. I can buy this speaker or a yacht but if you have the room and the bucks . . .and you love music, go for it.

I guess digital is it from now on. . .

Cant beleive you did not play the speakers.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

How will playing the speakers through KZread give you any idea of the sound on your own system?

@randyhunt1581

4 жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics Using headphones may not be exact but it makes a difference and you can tell a lot about how they sound. No way it is the same but you can compare them to others. I have heard really high dollar speakers through my headphones and they do sound much better. You can tell if they are quality or not. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do but if you can not tell if speakers are quality or not through headphones, you need better headphones. It's just nice to hear good speakers once in awhile. You did not share them and that's ok.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

You can't "Hear" a product through youtube. Instead you will hear a combination of direct + reflected sound in my room processed through youtube compression and then played back on your equipment. It doesn't resemble at all the sound of the device we are reviewing. In addition, we dont have a binaural mic to even attempt to capture the sound being produced by a stereo pair of speakers.

Time to upgrade your belt ;-)

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

My ol' lady likes that belt ;)

Being a home theater first guy, it’s always disappointing for me to see the matching center channel speakers for these types of setup’s. Such an afterthought.

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

There is a,matching center which will be installed in my new place. The cebter used in this video is incredible and only missing 1 of the 3 mids.

those speakers look way to overcomplicated for the normal consumer. Heck, look at peoples setup at their homes. Most cannot even place a small magnepan properly in their room.. This is cool, but I cannot imagine it benefits sound to let the signal go through tons of dsps and amps and what not. No cinema (which movies are mixed for) use anything like this. I bet for lot less you can get to this level , sounds bold ... is it tho?!

@Audioholics

4 жыл бұрын

These are NOT meant for normal consumers. They are meant for Audioholics. Cinema sound is definitely not a benchmark I'd want to set a high performance home theater. Very few offer audiophile level performance. Active speakers are the future in high performance audio for the reasons stated in this video.

These are not towers with huge woofers, these are earthquake creators🤣

All this just to watch a movie or listen to music? Does anyone in the real world use this stuff? Does anyone give a fig? 😁

@jonperez8222

4 жыл бұрын

paul upton I’m pretty sure you have hobbies yourself don’t you? I bet you didn’t even understand a single thing both of these guys were talking about. You also sound like the typical snotty bose owner. Next time think twice before commenting on a audiophile video because you’re going to get negativity back

@paulupton5557

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonperez8222 Ooooh, I think I have touched a nerve. What jolly fun! 😊

@jimhamlin6551

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulupton5557 This is just a" hobby" for a group of people who have a lot of disposable income So they can brag to each other about how great there system is to each other. For the rest of us we are suppose to be in awe of these so called audiophiles that them selves become snobs who look down on the rest of us with our puny sub par systems in there eyes this is to bad but it seems to bring out the worst in some of these people and I havent seen to much of the opposite in my 50 years in this hobby

@Elricky124

4 жыл бұрын

I like my sound system and it is a hobby. Granted I don’t have these really expensive systems mentioned in the video but you know expensive is relative, so if had more money, why not more expensive toys for my hobby?

@paulupton5557

4 жыл бұрын

@@Elricky124 You don't have to justify yourself to me brother. I am constantly surprised at how agitated people become at comments from a complete stranger and how defensive they are over such a trivial issue. 😁