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@franciscoaguirre96

2 ай бұрын

10:52 its because they are all the same resolution. you said it yourself. its running at 1080 upscaled to 4k. the compression algorithim doesnt diffrenciate from resolution. it just takes what it has compresses it so your gpu can handle it better and then spits out inbetween frames so you can have higher fps. DLSS and similar applications arnt useless dude. clearly that have a use. with out DLSS you wont be able to try out this new mod and thus not make a YT video about it.

@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21

2 ай бұрын

Im not uses rtx mod... Why every rtx mod makes 2000s nfs games look cartoonish and have bad performance

That lighting and texturing makes it look like the missing link between Need for Speed carbon and Trackmania 2020 (derogatory)

@tudobem12

2 ай бұрын

Accurate comparison

@Leyuhm

2 ай бұрын

That is a great way to put it.

NFSUG1 has 20+ year old assets that harshly contrast with the RTX mod. RTX mod can't shine when we can clearly see the polygons of cars and buildings. The low quality trees also stand out thanks to RTX remix, so they need to be reworked. The old school reflections should be enabled alongside RT reflections since they clearly look better than RT at this state. Long story short, this game needs months if not years of work before applying this mod to look actually good (aka remake).

@rexthewolf3149

2 ай бұрын

Yep, you can’t just slap a new lighting engine into an old game and expect it to look good.

@thisemptyworm4677

2 ай бұрын

​@@rexthewolf3149 *Looks at battlefront remastered*

@rexthewolf3149

2 ай бұрын

@@thisemptyworm4677 Did they actually do that? I know they used machine learning to upscale the textures which isn’t even that out there games have been doing that since like 2017.

@antbobtyler2381

2 ай бұрын

​@@thisemptyworm4677 and the gta trilogy 😂

@trexindominus8119

2 ай бұрын

​@@antbobtyler2381 GTA trilogy was a whole other beast.

i get that they're trying to go for realistic lighting but most of the assets in the game were brighter than you would probably expect from a night-time setting because you'll be able to see your personalized car more predominately. every car with this mod just looks dark metallic

Keep in mind that game doesn't utilise PBR and POM, most of the replaced textures are just upscale, so it's basically only lights were added. The guy who made the mod already working on new road textures, and already made better car reflections, and some wall textures, it will be added in next update.

2:02 You still can do RT in native, you just either have to enable DLAA which is DLSS without upscaling from lower res or just edit the DLSS settings to make it so it doesn't lower resolution.

What we expected: Need for Speed 2015 levels of visuals What we got: Roblox RTX

This looks like a super low budget indie steam title some beginner made in a week. There's no way people think this is a improvement

@eryari1192

2 ай бұрын

It is

@rokkudayo

2 ай бұрын

I don't get it either. This crap is getting gassed up like crazy yet all it does is take all the character out of the game and make it look like na amateurish render made in Blender.

@Norbliin

2 ай бұрын

The worst thing is modders release this without even completing the whole remixing and calling it a day

@ptrcrispy

2 ай бұрын

@@Norbliin Probably whats gonna happen

@ptrcrispy

2 ай бұрын

@@rokkudayo Streets look like plastic, car materials are super fucked and the environment & lighting wise the main menu is totally screwed

The art style is completely different with the rtx mod. I really love the default road and car reflections, though it may not be super realistic, I like the clear, visible reflections

Kuru never fails to bring back NFS UG for nostalgia. @15:11 i prefer the screen should be lighter!

Main issue of RTX everywhere is that it tries to recreate IRL and IRL is not always looking pretty, look at cloudy day for example, shadows suck then and the sky is gray

@riz984

2 ай бұрын

gray sky is sovl

@jaytay420

Ай бұрын

Bro did u just say games sometimes have better graphics than real life? U need to get off the computer, touch some grass. If the shadows suck and sky is gray is because thats how physics and light behave rofl

So people ... I will be frank here ! 99% of you just doesn't see why rtx remix is actually a blessing for modder ! It is capable of replacing model texture (upscale too) and new light and render engine IN 1 GO ! It make it so mush easier and faster to do so ! And with the help of the new engine, you can use new standard textures on old game ! You don't need to enable pathtracing ! You can just do new model and texture if you want ! It will be just a option for who want it ! Next pathtracing is better in everyway for realism ! BUT REALISM LOOK BAD ! ?? So why are you taking a hotel in another contry for your vacancy? Bc some place look AMAZING! Where i want to get is : if you have realism you can recreate every look possible! You want underground style ? You can ! Just put the effort to edit every location and light sources ! IT TAKE TIME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DO IT !!! so blame yourself for not been able to do it ! Not the tech that make it possible! Dlss look CRAP! Yes bc it is made for portal !!! The current remix engine is in beta !!! Try understanding that this is what we can do with a BETA !! How mush it can improve is unknown! Next is this glitchy effect on curu screen ! It is due to low framerates ! And lack of ray casting ! Modder have to cut fidelity for perf bc it's not well optimise right now ! Modder just want some people to see future potential and recruit new "worker" or passionate people to help !!! Also it make old player want to come back to theses games ! This below is my opinion on visual (do not take it for yourself! Just for sharing) I don't like the light up version! IT LOOK FAKE ! why ? Bc in reality when you drive it look darker ! But it's still a game, and you need to see ! My conclusion is that modder need to add more light source ! Like in real life! Road are illuminated for a reason ! Og game didn't need it bc it was a filter ! With pathtracing come realism ! So you need to account for it ! That's it boys ! Hope no one take my comment personally! HAVE FUN ! EVEN IF YOU PREFER OG GAME ! THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT! thank to curu for always putting so mush passion on this !

A few months and this game will shine way better than the ov. Like with AC's NFS maps, it will take time until it in a state for casual to enjoy

Also, since a couple of weeks Underground 2's RTX Mod also has reflective cars, just need to enable it (in their Discord you can find out how) It's already solved

The problem with open world games is LOD and culling. They rely heavily on those techniques to achieve realistic and proper performance. Without them those games wouldn't have been playable. However this does not play well with RTX given that it needs proper geometry data to path trace the scene. So if the game keeps switching models and hiding stuff that will make the path traced output change every so often causing distractions like pop in and erroneous lighting and so on

@Zippy_Zolton

2 ай бұрын

a team doing RTX Remix for NFSU2 is modifying the game itself to change the LODs and disable light culling, the same can (likely) be done for NFSU

This mod is great, but it has the same problem as Minecraft rtx, where going too fast or moving your camera around in dark place with 1 or 2 light sources creates these weird reflections

The tires bro... but it can get fixed definitly. But I don't wanna imagine NFS Undercover with " RTX ". I don't know if there's any RTX mod for that NFS.

Killjoy reporting for duty 🫡

I love the lighting but what modders need to understand that it's better to improve the textures first then improve the lighting

@yarost12

2 ай бұрын

You can't really improve the artwork much, that's an insane amount of work

@jackkunasaki5044

2 ай бұрын

@@yarost12 there has been videos of increasing the quality of textures

I think the RT shadows are nice, but I would prefer to use Reshade to tweak the rest instead.

Just to make people understand why these types of mods are hard to run for modern graphics cards: It's not RAYTRACING It's PATH TRACING Raytracing uses 1 light bounce to calculate light, and afterwards it becomes straight up rasterized lighting like older games. It's why the difference between regular rasterized graphics and raytracing generally only is visible in things like reflections Path tracing on the other hand bounces at the very least 2 times (though can be set to however high your PC can handle it). This is the experimental shit that Cyberpunk introduced for instance. It replaces EVERY lightsource in a game (so either point lights, directional lights, area lights, emissive materials etc) and calculates at the very least 2 light bounces within the world. This is stuff a 3D program like Blender or 3D Studio Max needs MINUTES for to do per frame, yet your GPU needs to do 60 frames of them a second (with DLSS enabled, unless you're running a 4090) That's why it's so hard That's also why it looks so different from the original game (and in a lot of ways, straight up better due to actual shadows forming where they should, light actually affecting things around them due to global illumination and such) Please learn the differences between these terms because too many people call this Raytracing and don't understand what's actually going on under the hood

@fireeffect6712

2 ай бұрын

Finally someone who searches and learns things before commenting! So refreshing ! Thank you

@WTFWHATara

2 ай бұрын

Because Path tracing uses ray tracing. And I dont understand your nonsense about pathtracing in cyberpunk, you can mod the path tracer to only use one bounce instead of two.

@WTFWHATara

2 ай бұрын

And you can also make ray tracing effects that use multiple bounces like rtgi in metro exodus for example.

The headlights on the mx5 do work

Wait, i don't see you playing Most wanted night mode , when you tryng to play it?

21:16 ok, so ill say why its the truth, unless you're making a very stylised game, modeling anything in a realistic settings takes time, unlike the time where Midnight Club had 3 open worlds, take a look at the amount of detail in those maps, how the makes are modeled, how much of it is just square shapes with textures, at the time? That was acceptable....not anymore. Look at the details of Forza 4 and 5, NFS Heat and Unbound, hell, even Gran Turismo, the amount of detailing, modeling, texturing, programming and testing went from a lvl 20 to a lvl 200 in less than 30 years, devs barely have the time to make 1 open world now, let alone 3, hell, we got a dev from Forza Motorsport that talked on how the 20 tracks he was going to help make had to be cut down to about 5 because the company refused to keep other devs working on it and he himself was cut off from the game weeks before launch. So the issue with this isn't that they cant, they aren't allowed to even try with the current state of the industry.

@MLWJ1993

2 ай бұрын

Doesn't help that we moved on to PBR workflows where every object needs its materials defined in order to even work with modern rendering.

@senshi_dev_art

2 ай бұрын

@@MLWJ1993 that's indeed even worse

07:00 Oh come on. To say that DLSS is to "impress teenagers" when many games look better with either DLAA or DLSS Quality (in comparison to native TAA because some devs don't know how to tune TAA) is a bad argument. Just incorrect, not even a bad argument actually.

reading the comments is giving me an aneurysm and then people wonder why other projects don't get shown while they are being made average nfs fan when they have to understand terms like "work-in-progress" or "proof-of-concept"

@Zhawn7

2 ай бұрын

Just reading Kuru's Twitch chat is already giving me an aneurysm

@henrik5299

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree , this is just the beginning of the project and people are like " what is this piece of shit , I don't understand how someone could like this crap" -> f*ck . People are trying cool stuff and the dumbass part of the community shines again ...

@Zippy_Zolton

2 ай бұрын

all they do is complain, so many NFS fans are just negative nannies

@Zhawn7

2 ай бұрын

@@Zippy_Zolton Which is actually bizarre since in Kuru's video on Underground 2's RTX mod (I have only seen the comments, not the full video), there were a lot of people who are aware that the mod is in WIP. So I don't understand what's with the brain dead comments here.

@Zippy_Zolton

2 ай бұрын

@@Zhawn7 nah there's always braindead comments on all RTX Remix videos, there's just a few more vocal intelligence in that NFSU2 video since it's more popular and I think the modders acknowledged kuru's vid too

Dlss its main goal is to gain frames per second. without messing up the quality of resolution or anti aliasing that much, dlss is the real big deal to use it especially in the upcoming years where nvidia is developing the dlss (as long as they don't restrict the more advanced dlss in the new upcoming graphics card..)

Looks ok but it needs a lot of work.

Is an RTX remix of this game really even necessary? I feel like the reflections were the only graphical effect that aged pretty well in this game (especially with the HD Reflections mod). Not a lot of games from the early 2000s had honest-to-god real-time reflections like UG1 did (they usually opted for pre-generated cubemaps or some wonky post-processing solution). The vanilla lighting does look pretty bad, but implementing DLSS and raytracing, and all the ghosting that comes with these features being implemented in a fast-paced arcade racer, just to add some global illumination and a few dynamic blinking lights around the maps seems like overkill at best and a genuinely bad idea at worst. That all being said, I think RTX Remix does enable the (relatively) easy swapping of models and textures with higher-fidelity ones. It also allows the user to manually place light sources too. That TLC kind of approach seems like the only real path forward to make this work and substantially improve the visuals IMO. Any of the broad brush/automatic tweaks and changes you see in a lot of these new RTX projects just isn't gonna work for this game. It's artstyle is too strong and intentional to be automated.

@Zippy_Zolton

2 ай бұрын

are video games even necessary?

Khuru do you know how to download nfs 2005 mw black version?

Before 10 min >>>

Never noticed before your stutter..

i'm also burned out on open world games in general, always the same thing over and over again, just sprinkling side activities to fill the void, not really a fan of speed traps, drift zones and deffinitely hate the outdoors, i'm now appreciating more underground 1 and any racing game that just takes you right into the action with no time to waste. and this goes for not just racing games, i'm prefering linear games all day long.

@riz984

2 ай бұрын

forced contrarian opinion

00:01 to 02:48 Car tex's = paper car

RTX ON!

Tbh the lighting for RTX mod is really rough and ngl the nitro look like piss though

@Zippy_Zolton

2 ай бұрын

because it's not finished lol

@afhamdanish1957

2 ай бұрын

@@Zippy_Zolton yes I know it's not finished yet lol

This is the best UG1 mod I've seen so far, looks really good 👌 The light version looked better overall

Did kuru always repeat the first 2 words of a sentence?

33 seconds ago is crazy

Yeeeeeeaaah I'm just gonna stick to non-RTX. It just doesn't look good at all in my opinion but hopefully this can be better in the future

@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21

2 ай бұрын

Me too it makes the game look cartoonish and it has bad performance

@K3ntucky123

2 ай бұрын

I owned RTX 3060, and i dont bother using these feature lol

Need remake with Sleeping Dogs graphics

Kuru, Check out the new NFS Carbon Redux 2024!!!!!!!!!!

Wonder how this works with something like DXVK.

@napewnoniekamil

2 ай бұрын

Idk if it's even compatible with DXVK.

@lonewolfsstuck

2 ай бұрын

@@napewnoniekamil Sounds like something you should try. pretty easy to atleast *try*

@PatalJunior

2 ай бұрын

This won't work with DXVK, since RTX Remix already uses Vulkan. In some ways this is already doing what DXVK would do, moving the graphics pipeline to Vulkan. If you really think about it, there would be no way these effects could be achieved using the old original Direct X implementation.

The lighting reminds me of the gta defective edition. How they used a lot of baked in lighting that gets lost when you do things like this

the car selection menu layout is STILL SUPERIOR compared to ANY NFS and I honestly wish yall would elaborate on the amount detail and creativity from freakin 2001 and how basic and dead plain modern menus are

@i_love_musique333

2 ай бұрын

Nah, Carbon and Undercover are the best

@ogmelo9547

2 ай бұрын

@@i_love_musique333 I feel you bro/sis 10:50 but Im just talking about how the car is in the background cruising thru a tunnel actually in motion the entire time even while customizing the car. It was just a big detail to have been done so long ago and followed up by an actual DYNO in its predecessor. Now CAR games seem to be made by pple that probably cant even change their own oil man... Us mechanics grew up on NFS, hell to be real, PROSTREET taught me how to drive 6spd in real life bro... 💪🏾🙏🏾🫱🏻‍🫲🏾💙Im just sayin we had more "mechinally inclined" nerds back then 😅😎

Please remember that this is not finished, RTX Remix is a tool and not a mod, and can only go as far as the creator(s) using the tool

first, lul

Obviously RTX Remix was clearly not meant for games like this... It was meant for the 10/10 mastahpiece that is Chess Titans

NFS underground is the only NFS where I don't quite get the hype. This mod also does not look good. It looks like a low budget mobile game hahaha

@ogmelo9547

2 ай бұрын

Unbound is a low budget mobile game

@qui3041

2 ай бұрын

Now? Yeah obviously you won't get the hype. Same as with the games you like now, 10-15 years from now people from that generation will consider them to look like crap, which you will disagree with. For 2003 standards, UG's innovation was nothing short of revolutionary. The previous title in the series was NFS: HP2, which while being legendary as well, it was just a bog-standard racing game with police in it. UG released the next year, and the sheer content it brought along (customization, multiple race events, an entire campaign, online cross-play in 2003!!), it was bound to be critically acclaimed. It objectively still does some things better than the modern NFS games.

@tevonjames6668

2 ай бұрын

@ogmelo9547 I mean I've played them all, and Unbound has a mid story, but it absolutely destroys the past games as a racing experience. What makes it look like a mobile game to you?

@tevonjames6668

2 ай бұрын

@qui3041 I actually never thought it was that good as a kid. I felt it was a step back from HP2. The magic black box did on PS2 was insane. I was so confused about what happened to the physics for the newer games. Carbon and MW definitely stepped in the right direction though lol

@qui3041

2 ай бұрын

@@tevonjames6668 I mean, my first NFS game was NFS II SE (1997), and I have played every game since, so I might be a bit biased with nostalgia (trust me I am not that old). But while HP2 was one of my favorite games as a kid, i can't help but praise how much more content and variety NFS UG had compared to HP2, granted I didn't play a lot of it back then just because i didn't want to bother with a story and just wanted to race cool exotic cars instead of flashy vibrant tuners. But retrospectively, you have to agree that UG was a step in the right direction for NFS, because the whole exotic cars on closed circuits formula was getting stale at that point. My favourite game was NFS PU (2000) on the PC, it was actually amazing, it had an actual in-depth used car market system, you could buy used cars, fix them up, and then flip them a couple of years later for profit. Cars would actually skyrocket in value as they became antique, so if you bought a 356A in the year 1956 for $13000, it would have increased tenfolds in value by the ingame year 1990. Maintaining old cars costed you more as the years went on, because you actually had to buy individual parts. It literally had everything you wanted from a racing game. These features had me hooked for years to come up. Too bad that the game was limited to licensing constraints, so it only had Porsches. But a great game nonetheless.

How tf are yall bashing people thats simply doin things like this out of love and passion for games that are CLEARLY more fun and creative than the childish, handicapped nonsense called Unbound that was CREATED BY A WHOLE DEVELOPEMENT TEAM..... Shit it diabolical😵‍💫🤯😞🤣. I pray the criticism doesnt kill their motivation🙏🏾🤌🏾💙💯 Good vid OGKuruh

While the Path Tracing looks good (to an extent), it not only completely destroys the art style/direction, but it also looks horrible once you start moving at a faster speed. As others have said, it makes the game look like a low budget Unity/Unreal Steam release where the developer relies on the game engine itself to do all of the graphical heavy lifting. I understand that this will probably look *much* better in a year or two, but I don't know how much better the game can look without updating textures and models.

Not everything needs rtx ngl.

Seems that a lot of people in the comments didn't look at the mod before criticizing it. It clearly states on the mod page that this is an WIP Alpha and is nowhere close to being finished. It's probably being made by some guy in his free time and they most likely released it because they want feedback on bugs and glitches etc. Don't see why people are so critical of this when it is a free mod that you don't have to download if you don't want to.

Those mods needs to be in Need For Speed Mostwanted 2005 too. If that happen the graphics will be 100 times awesome!!

@keatonwastaken

2 ай бұрын

Already exists, just not fully done.

@HarraYT

2 ай бұрын

Nah it'll look worse. slapping this on and saying it looks better is not good 😢

@neo1711

2 ай бұрын

Just get the 360 mod and call it a day

having to put RTX in every old video games DOES NOT mean it looks better

i think ray tracing and dlss can look very good, cyberpunk, metro exodus. But this really looks like shit

As i've already commented in a different video. Changing lighting completely changes the whole feel of the game and it requires rework of all the assets and lighting settings to look good. I'll pass on those rtx mods. The nfs mw 2005 rtx looks even worse than this though imo

Ngl the game is looking like some crap indie cash grab racing game you found on steam

I do feel like for an old game, this shit is too excessive and unnecessary Imo it doesn't make the game look any good, if anything it takes away the game's original vibes This is what I personally dislike about people trying to "Remaster" these games, they don't think about the performance and only think about what looks cool and end up making a mess Suffice to say, this is garbage, don't get these if you want a remaster

Underground1 was fine in it's vanilla form, no "updates" or "paid content" needed. Just a full SUCCESSOR in U2 in less than a year... We(car guys and racing game enthusiasts) favored the passion they put into the CAR TUNING that gave a sense of realism in an "arcade racer🤓"not so much graphics... Dam, since I gotta spell sht out Unbound still a game made for kids that need assistance •Low Budget •Lacks Value •Poorly Executed •No Direction •IT WAS FCKIN NERFED •Handling made for Children not Us •MOBILE GAME HANDLING MODEL •High Potential Low Asset Utilization But aite.... ray tracing look good on it too

@ArthurLopes39

2 ай бұрын

me after the lobotomy

@qui3041

2 ай бұрын

"Handling made for Children" Yeah that's the point, it's an arcade game, literally all NFS games apart from the Shift games are. "•Low Budget" then "•High Bugdet, Low Asset Utilization" Pick one point. And no one was talking about Unbound here?

@ogmelo9547

2 ай бұрын

@@qui3041 man stop making the term "arcade" so fckin shallow damn. How many games were "arcade" racers and STILL had good, ALL-PURPOSE, ALL-AROUND, close to real(NOT sim) physics. But ok, everybody gone RUN to the word ARCADE as a cover up... Do you know that NFSU1 was ACTUALLY IN ARCADES and still has the same handling from the console version and STILL plays better than this new gen kiddie game named Uncalled for, I mean, Unbound? I said wtf I said fam....

@ogmelo9547

2 ай бұрын

@@qui3041 🤣 preciate you pointing out that low budget double insert

@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21

2 ай бұрын

@@ogmelo9547 it still play better cuz your an average nfs most wanted 2005 fanboy

This is trash. Looking forward to the death of this ray tracing nonsense, majority of its implementation are seriously bad especially to old games like this.

This looks so bad - early-access no budget 1-developer game level of bad :D

@blinkachu5275

2 ай бұрын

Yeah no, you're just anti-RTX for some reason, it looks great

god, i hate so much raytracing

Being honest this makes all the cars look like toys