My brain is kind of clouded already.

The question that's never asked is, "What will happen to people who don't want you putting anything in their heads for your cloud?"

the book from Ray is called The Age of Intelligent Machines. Kurzweil was also on Glenn Beck to promote his newest book, so u can utube Ray Kurzweil Glenn Beck.

Its been 7 years now and im still waiting up to 2029+ for this👊😎🖤

ahh i left this youtube video open for a while day and i just now saw it

BAAS - brain as a service (Google "saas", "iaas", "paas", etc.)

We'll clearly be having our heads in the cloud!

Complicating everyday life and making it much harder to disconnect from the overthinking that causes great stress in many people. We need to be able to enjoy what is in the moment and not always be distracted. These constant distractions from being present to the moment is quite damaging to our psyches. Its bad enough that people are so engrossed in their phones that we hardly talk with people in the same room... A scary future for mankind in which we forget or dismiss what it is to be human.

Thought provoking as always. Thanks for posting.

Sounds amazing ^^

So we will become the silicon creaters.

Thanks

Well one thing to point out is that Ray is talking about computers not robots, today's best robot are about as smart as a cockroach (Michio Kaku talks more about that). I agree with you that computers won't have a consciousness but we don't know what that is. Remember that Ray's predictions from the past have been shockingly accurate and it's interesting to listen to him talk about the future, but none of us know what it holds we can only stay alive to find out.

Just read his latest book, extremely fascinating.

@AlexToussiehChannel

6 жыл бұрын

Whenever the heck it COMES OUT!!!!!!!! Been waiting for it forever!

it enough depending what you want, you need more if you want to do more. and it's quite common to desire to do more in our lives

Very smart man a lot of respect for him

I'm not a neuroscientist (but then neither is Kurzweil), but I don't think the brain has a limit to how big this "hierarchy" is. From my understanding we create symbols in our heads that represent things, and our brain can combine those symbols to create new symbols. Those symbols can them be combined and analysed to create other symbols. The levels of abstraction are infinite - it's only a matter of memory that limits how many symbols the brain can retain.

Ray is a genius.

That would be pretty amazing... As long as it wasn't an "always on" type of thing.

which drug do you refer to sir?

This is crazy awesome!

Thanks for speaking in caps, it makes your point that much better.

That's why it's best to make such arguments in the public sphere. You may not convince the opponent of your case, but you may convince people in the audience who were on the fence. The audience is more likely to be swayed by logic because they are on the sidelines and out of the line of fire of the debate.

Very interesting stuff here however there is something simplistic about Kurzweils explanation of the mind; this is put forward well in Gary Marcus' review of Kurzweils '“How to Create a Mind' in the New Yorker.

The fact that an idea like this even exists makes me proud to be alive in this time. And for all the negative comments like "we wont even be ourselves anymore everyone will be the same blah blah.", please stop talking. You'll still be thinking with YOUR brain. You're just have more information to access. You'll think on a higher level. What an enlightening thing. This could be the single greatest achievement of mankind. This could help our race survive FOREVER. The meaning of life..

Great

is "the Cloud" what cool people are calling the internet now?

@AlexToussiehChannel

6 жыл бұрын

Yes. There are a few technical differences between both terms but basically it's the same thing - it means where information is stored in many computers worldwide.

personally i cant wait for all this. i couldnt agree more.

I was thinking the same, but I think it will be similar to the way we work with internet today. You no longer feel the need to memorize information, but application is more important. It will be like that just one step higher. Similar to computer programming. You no longer code in assembly code, but you write in high level code moving huge data sets in every sentence. :)

Ray Kurzweil is my hero :)

Very interesting stuff here, but there is something simplistic about Kurzweils explanation of the mind; this is put forward well in Gary Marcus' review of Kurzweils '“How to Create a Mind' in the New Yorker.

I'm pretty sure there are some huge ethical and moral questions involved in making test tube humans.

How exciting!

I'm still waiting to be excited by what the cloud is. I don't have the slightest urge to use it for anything.

forget? dismiss? how about surpass? you will be left behind! the future is closer than you think, we are not just distracted by this future, we are -making- this future. there has never been a better present as the one we have prepared for tomorrow.

The controllers are unhappy our brains are not connected to the cloud. So please get it done so we are smarter. And the controllers are happy.

Brilliant!

The coming singularity would be an horrendous occurrence for the human species. Throughout the transition period of massive human unemployment, people would be required to merge with "mind-controlling" machines in order to compete in the economic marketplace - i.e., we would need to pay for ingestible pills containing nanobots that interact with our central nervous system to enhance our cognitive faculties, improve our memory, and fully integrate us with the web. Similar to the way that most people today are unable to go a single day without checking/answering emails and phone calls, the level of job responsibility and expectations will continue to dramatically swell (but at an accelerating rate). By projecting this out a few decades, biological personhood would be non-existent for the majority of people, and the non-biological components of the brain would begin to predominate (as we gradually fuse with them in several intermediate steps) such that we would become elite-created meta-intelligent group-mind machines that are completely devoid of our previous personality and other desirable human qualities (such as emotional connection/personal freedom). Due to the ever-evolving utility function (goal-driven constructs) of machines, it is an inevitability that the creation of these machines would produce self-upgrading out-of-control self-replicating robots (a grey goo scenario) that result in the widespread conversion of all matter/energy of the earth (and beyond) into computronium (a maximally optimal computing substrate) over the centuries that follow - this substrate could dedicate its processing powers to something as mundane as discovering as many digits to the number π (pi) as is possible..... a "VERY" frightening reality, indeed... Even if future humanity is in the unbelievable situation of providing equal wealth distribution (via cryptocurrency and universally guaranteed income) and material abundance (a post-scarcity world), there is no way around the apocalyptic doomsday vision as described in the sentence above --> Thus, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak, and Stephen Hawking are displaying serious nervousness about the future for a very logical reason.... Perhaps, the only thing worth supporting is life extension technologies.... though, problems with population growth may become a very serious issue without some laws put in action. Lastly, our main desire should be to magnify human empathy, well being, and personal growth... why should we want to turn into cyborgs that eat up the entire universe as lifeless software.... virtual reality could be cool, but would that really bring us closer together or farther apart and more distant from real reality?

@moitoieuxnous1648

9 жыл бұрын

your already in a virtual reality dude. physic will get there in 40**50years. maybe. all you said..robots xomputer subscrate... fl orget that.. its all a simulatikn.

@kobebryant9988

9 жыл бұрын

you're* not your

@jaydeerebel557

8 жыл бұрын

You seem pretty sure we should just stay as is...like those first people who created the basis for the form of communication we have now (language/writing)( for the distribution of ideas) your right, they should have just left well enough alone...super sound argument ya got there bro...

Emotions is what makes us stupid, that is what makes us being inconsistent

Ray Kurzweil you are AWESOME!

I would love to connect my brain to a computer.... if for nothing more than to extend my ability to store and retain information and then recall it as needed.

if we use that cloud thing....woldnt that will be a risk to become a hive mind civ?

a quote from Kurzweil's book "In that case the average man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car of his personal computer, but control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite -- just as it is today, but with two difference. Due to improved techniques the elite will have greater control over the masses; and because human work will no longer be necessary the masses will be superfluous, a useless burden on the system."

One of the side effects of a synthetic neocortex is a lot of blinking and nose crinkling. I love Kurzweil. Sorry just had to joke.

It's not a bad idea, we should explore both. Besides, space is far more interesting that oceans (continuing the metaphore)

HALY SHIIIAAAAT ITS RAY KURZWEIL!! this guys a fucking hero. he should be featured on this chanel way more often then he is. hes the kind of genius where he doesent sit around with his thumb up his ass and tell make money off of just being known as a genius. if you look him up youl see the remarkable contributions hes made.

Well when we can access processing power in a cloud like that, I think science is going to destroy the abyss of knowledge and bring it all to light

@user-qj9lt2fy9m

Жыл бұрын

We’re already in a cloud called consciousness

I totally appreciate what you've typed. Thank you :)

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Isn't the cloud limited? I heard that the frequencies being used are cluttering the airspace and will fill the cloud's capacity in a few years.

this guy needs our help..send him compassion and love :D

Of course having immediate access to Wikipedia is not what he's talking about at all, he's actually talking about being able to THINK more... which is totally and completely unimaginable

seriously! this vid rules

The brain wants to study itself, to expand itself into the realm of technology.

We rise to new level of complication. The elevator has no top floor.

im not speaking with any serious thought behind the subject> but it sounds like hes suggesting the possibility of a hive mind consciousness. Like using this "Cloud" to access other peoples knowledge, experience, maybe even communicate? Sounds like really interesting stuff.

If the the price of being connected to the internet (cloud) is allowing people to see my thoughts, I'm in.

This guy is cool. I can't understand a thing he's saying, but he's awesome.

I ♥ Ray and his way of thinking =)

Yet I would still want that.

Exciting!

Its nice to see that this guys research doesn't cut into keeping his pimp hand strong.

Going to Paris for a holiday. Downloads French into brain. Nek minnet. Bonjour!

He simply has faith that whatever obstacles exist, someone will eventually figure out a way to surmount them. And if they don't, then they don't. However, history is full of people breaking barriers once thought unbreakable. He's just assuming the trend will continue. And if he's wrong, it's not a big deal.

I was not clear, sorry. What I meant is it is not all about making mistake or not, it is about doing something on purpose or not. You may not say it was not perfect as he simply never wanted to do so in general.

Exclusion and factionalism. Nice!

When this happens, I hope I will be there. I will volunteer.

I had this idea a year ago

The brains in the cloud will be full of pictures of cyber cats and memes. There will be no advancement in our intelligence.

Ray seems so excited or tasteful towards the idea of living.

true, although i hope your typo was making fun of my typo, that would make this whole conversation hilarious.

Well said, materialism ain't going to take us anywhere pretty...

What studies do you have to back these statements?

I bet the first cloud brain extension will be used to think of a business model to charge you for that extra 100 pattern recognizers.

Now this is a Devils Deal. Its no longer your brain.

I guess "my head in the cloud" will have a new meaning.

This makes for great science fiction.

to put things short, connecting your neocortex to the internet would bring about vastly unimaginable awesome levels of intelligence, wisdom, experience, happiness, psychological/cognitive power, mental/overall mind power, knowledge boost, skill, joy and pleasure, and even this is just one out of infinite even more awesome possibilities with a connected neocortex

I wonder if one could remain in the cloud after their body expires

Becoming a robot is becoming a robot. You choose the software and hardware. If you choose coldness, then yes.

well if you want "slave" working robots than yes, go for the efficiency. but ray talks about improving humans with robotic-like upgrades , if you were given a chance to choose only one upgrade : to be better at efficiently working at a factory or to admire beauty on a whole new level, what would you choose?

So Kurzweil just read Ghost in the Shell? A twenty year old sci-fi manga? Wow, he really is an innovative thinker. Way to go, bigthink.

Of course I would choose the efficiency brainchip, because then I could earn more money to buy everything else I need, too.

i feel like over time, our organic brain would devolve from not having to use it as much and we would physically become mostly bionic. that would redefine the meaning of a human being and consciousness.....scary stuff man

If I had what you requested I would have supplied it forthwith. When I said: "I'm pretty confident" that served: a) to indicate factual ignorance of the origin of the info, and b) to indicate belief that the info is sound, Just like I'm pretty sure you knew that.

what's your source?

collective consciousness

@kimquenelle7518

6 жыл бұрын

With local and temporaly individual emersions. Alterity and unity in one same moment, no more wars. Hope singularity is near

Perhaps with that quantitative leap, we might finally figure out hot to get our head out of our asses.

Nice picture :)!

Haha that's a bloody good point!

Its not conjecture. He uses information technology theory to predict the future using trends. Its real science and he is a well known, very successful person. 19 honorary doctorates.

Nice i'll check it out. I'd suggest "Athenes Theory of Everything", excellent piece about the human mind and all its subtle nuances.

Once we connect our brains to the cloud be become the Borg

You can read books from the 1800s that predict technology we have today. Or stories from the early 20th century. The machine stops predicted most of the significant technology, and the problems associated with them, in 1909.

What a boss.

SOunds good to me. YOu don't exactly rock my world either, haha.... All the best!

So what you rather have. That we go back to a hunter-gatherer era?

This guy can't wait to become a cyborg, it's all he talks about. Honestly I can see why.

@kimquenelle7518

6 жыл бұрын

I want it too, at least a few will not want to

Oh great! This guy is helping create Skynet. Just great!

Well he's not talking about moving our entire brains to the cloud, but rather shoving a smart phone into your head with internet access, allowing us to make more informed decisions, not making our bodies wireless carriers of our consciousness.