RAT KING Got a BUFF in The Final Shape
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Bungie buffed the exotic sidearm Rat King in the Final Shape DLC for Destiny 2 making it much easier to shoot in PVP. But is this buff good enough to make Rat King a genuine contender in the Crucible? Here's my full updated review of this exotic weapon.
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As a sidearm fanatic myself who lost many sidearm duels with you back in the sbmm days, thank you for moving this review up! Been eagerly awaiting it lol.
@Frostblxde
10 күн бұрын
There's still sbmm in this game.
I’m upset you didn’t test this out with 5 other players using rat king
TV: I got this headshot. RK: Gurl look at that body.
The update: you can now see what you shoot. tbh that's my main issue with sidearms, wish they did the same with all others but then we'd be in a sidearm meta all because you can now see what you're shootin' at
This is exactly how all sidearms should recoil. They did this for Hand Canons in Witch Queen and SMGs much later. Sure, the range buff sidearms received was great; so great that bungie halved this buff; but the recoil and bounce should be addressed. I can’t use any sidearms other than rat king without only seeing my barrel above their head, resulting in me needing to aim at their waist or chest. Please bungie
@nickgrout2502
10 күн бұрын
Oddly enough it's an FOV-related problem. At lower (previously console standard) FOVs, the model takes up less of the screen and doesn't block the reticle.
Glad to see your also working on Mahees, sleeper hand cannon.
I like it on close range maps on my invis hunter. But I always choose my Lonesome with RH/KC. Cooks on any map ❤ but thanks for the review homie
Guides for SE 2nd and 3rd encounters coming soon?
TV idk how often you go back to your guerilla warfare stasis hunter but i would love to see your take on that build with the prismatic kit, i’ve been really enjoying it a lot!
Ive been loving my old Last Hope with ricochet / rangefinder / tzp trigger / farpoint.
I love it! Bought the helmet too
The rat king and the armor that gives you two dodges and the ability that says every time you dodge you reload your weapon. Does great. It helps you to invisible alittle faster..
Traveler’s judgement has always been my go-to, might try this now
@Kumari_44
8 күн бұрын
Best sidearm in the game.
@jaypierce7577
5 күн бұрын
Just used tonight. Constantly dropping 2.0-4.0kd
For me if you need sidearm with hit head constistency it's be Devil's Ruin and Cryosthesia
@Kumari_44
8 күн бұрын
Travellers chosen 👍🏽
Been running it with sniper and Omni.. I feen the cheddar
I don't understand why there isn't a Lightweight Primary slot 1 kinetic sidearm with origin trait yet. I need one with a fun perk's pool.
@4zureSapphire
10 күн бұрын
if I can surmise, most lightweight primaries hadn't existed before or were only found on blue weapons. Recently we got The Riposte which is a lightweight AR, an archetype that had not existed before until after Final Shape. Just like Rose, it is special and probably only found in comp.
@Xander--gd5lb
9 күн бұрын
@@4zureSapphirethis just doesn’t apply… Rose and Riposte are special in that Autos and HCs didn’t have a legendary with that bonus at the time of their introduction. It’s meant to set them apart. Sidearms have had a lightweight frame (360 RPM) since their introduction. The OP wants a new kinetic slot one since the only gun of that archetype we’ve gotten since which queen has been Heliocentric. Farewell and Spoiler Alert are 2 great lightweight sidearms in the kinetic slot.
Could I encourage people to get turned on to a bumper jumper customized setup? On a standard controller you can aim fire chuck grenades jump slide sprint without ever letting go of the thumb sticks. All your other actions are a finger reach away on the face buttons. If you custom map your dpad a little bit which I've not even bothered utilizing yet you can put your pointer on movement duty while accessing several key functions with your thumb. It takes getting used to but once you do you'll hate having it mapped any other way.
@justagamethrower
10 күн бұрын
Nah
@FAUXCUSpd
10 күн бұрын
getting a controller with back buttons/paddles is much easier and not super expensive. you can find cheap controllers at gamestop with back buttons.
@lumas69
9 күн бұрын
@@FAUXCUSpd i will man I'm just a very poor single father I make do a lot. My gaming approach is very duct tape mentality
@lumas69
9 күн бұрын
@@FAUXCUSpd i do want a better controller though, I'm about 3 button mappings shy of never breaking contact with thumb sticks for any reason, like 4 little extra back paddles would be incredible and I know they make controllers like that
I noticed a BIG difference in this sidearm in the new season, but couldn't think what? Love using this with my ratpack pvp buds, even though I'm crap 😂😂😂
Critical Anomaly review coming soon?
Fully automatic causes bloom which is why this hits less heads. If you pace your shots with trigger pulls as you mention rather than holding you can hit more heads for sure. I only have like 2k kills in crucible on mine but still I’d definitely say that’s the problem you’re referencing.
Back in year one this gun also used to be semi-auto, it never was meant for full auto unless using the pack gimmick. When travelers chosen got turned full auto I dropped it too until it was reverted. Devils ruin ironically stayed goated due to clean sights, built in zen moment, and being extremely reliable tap firing and laser.
Thanks
Only thing I can think of is that full auto has an accuracy cone penalty, kind of like Forerunner. Tapping the trigger keeps the cone nice and tight for rapid headshots--that's my theory anyway
It came in quite useful in legendary solo campaign.
Oh wow you claw very differently lol I claw where my pointer finger is jumping and dodging and reloading, not on the sticks. I’ll have to try your way out.
It looks like it shares the same recoil animation of cryo now.
Just watching the gameplay it looks like it has more recoil now. I never had a problem 4 tapping people but I haven’t used it this update
It’s an adaptive sidearm at base. It was semi auto if you didn’t have the perk active until somewhat recently. People thought the RoF change was too jarring. That’s why it deals the exact same numbers as Drang and has the same exact fire rate. It was an adaptive Sidearm with built in full auto. Now with TFS, it’s got the firing animation of a Rapid Fire Frame so you can actually see what you’re shooting at when using it with other people. A consequence of this is better recoil in PvP, but likely stronger bloom.
I miss the old recoil animation. I could consistently get headshots with it but I can’t with this new one. I wish they’d put it back
Rat king has been my favorite sidearm for a long time, but heliocentric still exists and is still very good.
I'll try it out but having to put down Forerunner is gonna hurt
I like Rat King because of its powerful exotic perks. I think if it was a good dueler it would be way too good. Invis and health regen is a bonkers strong combo and has a lot of class and exotic armor synergy.
I have the gun, but need the catalyst. I hope Xur sells the catalyst soon!
I can’t get the cat to drop. Waiting on Xur
When did you come back to Destiny?
It’s a laser now almost zero recoil, but I can’t get j to it still somehow
pc player here- its zero to 100 on MnK. my pc group have all decided its the very first sidearm that is perfect on MnK. i am a meager 1.0 player and i can extremely regularly hit 4 heads, and i never did that one single time on any sidearm before the rat king recoil change.
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Great breakdown. I love Rat King, but maybe is the right answer on this buff.
Here’s a tip you don’t need rat king to go invisible. Just play anything and there you go
I was thinking of using sidearms in pvp and then I checked my subscribed page what the fuck
This guns stats look bad compared to travelers but I've been messing people up with the king. It's amazing
Awww but i liked the old recoil pattern. It was fun
just played a trials match with you, at least i hope it was the real tv
@TrueVanguard
10 күн бұрын
yup. ggs!
@thchildishalbino2819
8 күн бұрын
ayee, ggs!
Alright rat king is unironically overpowered.
rat king is one of those weapons that’s so good that it’s kind of boring to use because you just roll basically everyone you see
I’m coming up on 20k PvP kills with rat king. I think it’s worth using.
@ZlPPENHAFT
10 күн бұрын
Traveler's chosen is way more consistent, it's day and night.
@mellebo4112
10 күн бұрын
Do you know any pvp focused clans I can join??
@HAVARMS
10 күн бұрын
@@ZlPPENHAFTyes but the rat king heals you and makes you invisible. Can’t tell you how many 2v1s I’ve clutched in trials thanks to that. Traveler’s Chosen wins you duels. Rat King wins you matches
@ZlPPENHAFT
10 күн бұрын
@@HAVARMS well traveler's choosen gives abilities by alot. i dont really enjoy invis since radar nerf.
I'll stick with my buzzard and allied demand. They just hit crits better. Plus swash makes it a 3 crit terror
thanks now i know why i hate this sidearm and i love sidearms. thats sad that bungie penalize us for holding the trigger...
TLDR Tap fire and use claw grip on controller
@TwoFugs
10 күн бұрын
Yup, perfectly said
It's crazy how much time .07 seconds is in crucible and yet people still call Destiny slow
its new recoil bugs me. not cuz its not better just that i was much much more used to its old recoil animations.
Was hard to hit head shots with Rat King?
Destiny gunfights don’t happen in a vacuum. With all that Prismatic space-magic going on, Rat King is just too good to pass up for me!
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Drang > Rat king
I have hated rat king since the very first time I tried it. After the buff I tried again. Still hate it. Your dead on about it being allergic to head shots.. its so painful
@Kumari_44
8 күн бұрын
The guns amaaaazing :)
@more.art.less.war.
6 күн бұрын
Skill issue
I used it after watching dfp ise it in a video but i still didnt like it
In all honesty I prefer the old shooting animation for the rat king but the new one is alright
i just wish Sidearms felt as comfortable to use on Mnk as they did on roller :(
@FootBeard
10 күн бұрын
There are some that do. I highly recommend trying High Albedo with headseeker, lonesome with zen moment, or any other burst that has tap the trigger
so you're holding the controller a little bit like a rat wound?
@lucasblanchard47
10 күн бұрын
What?
2 things need to be said here. 1. We didnt get better. Bungie allowed to triple stack enhanced targeting mods and that is the "skill" difference. You used to at MAX have 1 enhanced targeting mod and more likely you had a single normal targeting mod. 2. You can still just body spam ppl with sidearms for easy kills.
I wish they'd do this to Sunshot because it's recoil is ridiculous.
@FAUXCUSpd
10 күн бұрын
ong bruh
I can't F'n unlock the damn catalyst because I need to use it with people who use it! damn stupid
@Kumari_44
8 күн бұрын
At least you have it. It will never ever drop for me in strikes. Ever. I hope xur sells it this week.
@akuchi4090
Күн бұрын
You can get and complete it alone though, just takes longer
i still need to have people do the catalyst for me. why does it require other people to use it to get it. EDIT: apparently you can just get kills with it now
@Twinfalcon31
10 күн бұрын
It's doesn't anymore....thank me later
@GingerBeardMan977
10 күн бұрын
@@Twinfalcon31 only fireteam members will advance the objective
@Twinfalcon31
9 күн бұрын
@GingerBeardMan977 try again cause I just completed solo. Equip it, shoot stuff and voilà It's faster with fireteam but not necessary anymore.......thank me later😉
@GingerBeardMan977
9 күн бұрын
@@Twinfalcon31 I'm stupid and never noticed that's on me
I guess this is why I saw a 3 stack using this in comp this weekend. We had a 3 stack, but one member d/c. The 3 stack annihilated the two of us with those...
If they make D3, here’s hoping they keep invis out of PvP
Should you use it? Yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah 😂
@AkiAndFam
10 күн бұрын
Jokes aside, glad to see the rat king lives on best as a group used weapon - stacking weapons like this or malfeasance makes for fun silliness in crucible to break up the regular meta!
Personally I like to pair Rat King with Graviton Forfeit. Match made in heaven if you ask me
I stopped playing three years ago, and the rat king was a beast then. You're late TV.
@DrMetalpin
10 күн бұрын
The difference is that now you can just use it effectively solo without the rest of the team having to also use it.
6:32 You hold the controller like a sped kid's first game. No, it's not easier to hit shots when "your pointer finger in on the THUMBSTICKS" Maybe just hold your controller firmly? How hard are you TAPPING your fuckin trigger, TAP!? You've literally not given an example of why this is better just fucked up and worse. The "best" way is pointer on R/L1, middle on R/L2, THUMBS ON THUMB STICKS (that's the important one) "Yah I play M+K w my feet, it's just way better for aiming. Gives me more leverage"
Its a small cancerous tumor in pvp and i love it
When you claw - where’s your thumb? Middle finger on trigger, and pointer on sticks? Your clawing sounds bonkers 😂
@TrueVanguard
10 күн бұрын
I lost my right thumb in a horrific foreplay incident. I kid. I totally brainfarted and misspoke on that section. Thumb on stick, pointer on reload/jump/crouch/swap, middle finger on the trigger.
Skill issue TV
clicked off the video as soon as being a controller player was mentioned
@TrueVanguard
10 күн бұрын
i literally don't care lol
@warriorgoat5939
10 күн бұрын
Stayed because it mentioned playing on a controller.