Testing Every Relevant Weapon for Boss DPS in The Final Shape (Still Hunt, Euphony, Microcosm)

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  • @TheAegisRelic
    @TheAegisRelic20 күн бұрын

    Some small notes: - Grand Overture, much like every other weapon here, was tested with a simulated Lumina + No Hesitation buff, which is equal (or greater if you include the latter) to Hazardous Propulsion's 35% global empowering buff, and so the numbers you see in this video are as good as it gets for the weapon: the same buff as HP (except it buffs the regular shots and not just the volley) - Euphony's damage does not increase significantly as a result of equipping Swarmers, as all that does is apply unravel to the target, which is something that you can do by just throwing out an Arcane Needle on damage start, something you can do with any other warlock damage option Please check the spreadsheet for additional info before commenting if you have any questions or feedback to give :)

  • @Galaxy40k

    @Galaxy40k

    19 күн бұрын

    Literally posted a comment asking about Swarmers on Euphony before I saw this, lol. So do you think Apotheosis the clear winner then for Euphony builds? Since even considering the entire sandbox, Euphony ammo is probably mostly saved for boss damage, I guess? So anything that maximizes that potential would be the best fit for it

  • @iESCAP1SM

    @iESCAP1SM

    17 күн бұрын

    Question: does Ergo Sum Wolfpack apply to other users’ Ergo Sum swords, despite them being exotic? If so, does the projectiles count towards The Perfect Fifth?

  • @Griever_404

    @Griever_404

    17 күн бұрын

    We also no longer have surges in raids and dungeons. For the sake of comparison that does not matter, but just to reiterate the beginning of the video.

  • @liamwilliamson7694

    @liamwilliamson7694

    14 күн бұрын

    Do you have a video that explains how to deciver the spreadsheet?

  • @paul2725
    @paul272520 күн бұрын

    can't believe thunderlord is still the best dps, i keep using it, thanks for the info!

  • @Alckee6904

    @Alckee6904

    20 күн бұрын

    Can't wait to show all my lfg's who the real final boss is.

  • @marianomarchione6242

    @marianomarchione6242

    20 күн бұрын

    Thunderlord never leaves my heavy slot… LFGS hate me out dpsing them

  • @savathunsweatysocks

    @savathunsweatysocks

    20 күн бұрын

    @@marianomarchione6242 thunderlord is good don't get me wrong but they must be really bad if they're getting out dpsed by thunderlord lol

  • @user-vl4iq7bj5e

    @user-vl4iq7bj5e

    20 күн бұрын

    *Microcosm

  • @pogdan7966

    @pogdan7966

    20 күн бұрын

    What other guns do you use with thunderlord?

  • @stealth6308
    @stealth630820 күн бұрын

    It’s so cool to see that even after all these years, coldheart is still the best dps option

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    So true

  • @Toothlessthedragon_

    @Toothlessthedragon_

    20 күн бұрын

    I'm already seeing laser beams everywhere LMAO

  • @emberofeon4868

    @emberofeon4868

    20 күн бұрын

    Now for the ultimate meme, quadruple Lazer beam.

  • @davidcrocker846

    @davidcrocker846

    7 күн бұрын

    In season of the deep it was my go to for damage in a crown of tempest build I had. I had 100% up time on all abilities and pretty comparable damage to people using apex predator (100-400k less damage if they had/didn’t have surges)

  • @irrelevantnamehandle
    @irrelevantnamehandle20 күн бұрын

    so my takeaway from this video after watching it all is that; -edge transit and rockets are still good, but edge transit is better for ease of use, total damage and overall dps without needing someone to run ghorn, and it’s also the best option if your on a warlock/titan for dps. -still hunt is the best dps special and overall damage if your on a hunter using celestial. basically it’s so good that it blows everything out of the water when you throw in apex predator and holster mods. (edit: just announced its getting a 25% nerf in august, it’s still going to be top tier, just not as good as it is now, if your combining it with apex predator your still going to be doing extremely good damage). -swords are in a good place esp with ergo sum buffing them, and summum bonnum is pretty much the new winner in terms of raw damage in the right situation in terms for swords. -microcosm, levis breath, whisper etc. are all good consistent options for dps -euphony is a good special, it’s good on its own but better as a dump special after you’ve dumped all your heavy. it also really highlights how bad linears are. Cloudstrike is also extremely good as a dps special. -linears are just straight up bad, not worth using besides euphony. euphony highlights how bad this is based upon how it outdamages even the best heavy linear in damage. I really do wish Linears were good again, kind of sucks they took the 15% nerf in lightfall and have been powercrept to hell and back. probably the only heavy weapon class that really needs to be looked at and buffed, really do feel like they should bridge the gap between dps and full damage, like more dps than whisper while having good respectable damage, i get during the witch queen era they were a bit problematic (mainly because of div, which is a problem that’s already been dealt with) but nowadays they don’t really see much use outside of niche situations. with whisper basically being back on top and having weapons like still hunt and euphony who do their job better, if not by much more than heavy linears. i do hope bungo reverts the 15% nerf and gives them something more.

  • @brendanlandine8824

    @brendanlandine8824

    20 күн бұрын

    @aegis what would you pair with edge transit for after the dump? Feel like void specials are lacking...

  • @scmatrix_

    @scmatrix_

    20 күн бұрын

    Nessas oblation, the 2023 glaciocasm (overflow controlled burst), and wilderflight seem like the most optimal, but personally I'd just use izi

  • @scmatrix_

    @scmatrix_

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@brendanlandine8824you're right good void damage specials are lacking, barely any of them run vorpal with the exceptions of some shotguns that are better off for double pellet

  • @di11onm1nkgaming

    @di11onm1nkgaming

    20 күн бұрын

    @@brendanlandine8824fugue is the best special void weapon to pair with edge, either that or use mahees with lucky pants

  • @irrelevantnamehandle

    @irrelevantnamehandle

    20 күн бұрын

    if your using kinetic, id personally iza or if you need a special; father's sin and the other void specials mentioned by others in the comments would work.

  • @JulioGarcia-pm1oh
    @JulioGarcia-pm1oh20 күн бұрын

    thunderlord and microcosm is the definition of "put on a shirt" vs "empowering" meme

  • @Real28

    @Real28

    20 күн бұрын

    Favorites of Titans, everywhere. They can eat their crayons and still DPS.

  • @stickupkydd9454

    @stickupkydd9454

    20 күн бұрын

    Micro is soooooo nasty tho wardens luckys and micro bottom slot double kinetic surge mods 😩

  • @PpTheGreatest

    @PpTheGreatest

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@stickupkydd9454 Yes, but on hunter, still hunt exists so put that suboptimal loadout away and get with the meta

  • @TriggerHappy-mo3fr

    @TriggerHappy-mo3fr

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@Real28no there fave is hazourdous propolsion. Otherwise they get kicked for "not having enough dmg"

  • @malfeastial

    @malfeastial

    18 күн бұрын

    you're definitely old if you still think about that meme wtf

  • @nathanhyman2889
    @nathanhyman288920 күн бұрын

    Everybody: wondering if Aegis is dead Aegis: Releases enough testing footage to be longer than the ENTIRETY OF DESPICABLE ME

  • @zachstinnett5475

    @zachstinnett5475

    20 күн бұрын

    "How long is your shift today?" "4.38 Dispicable Mes." Free Sketch.

  • @tirong6955
    @tirong695520 күн бұрын

    Man, hearing lament is now one of the worst sword options for dps genuinely shattered my heart. I absolutely adored that thing ever since it came out and ran it whenever I could. Only recently did I find myself not enjoying it as much and having numbers back that up solidifies its spot in my vault. I’ll be waiting for its glorious return.

  • @gummy3584

    @gummy3584

    20 күн бұрын

    The king will return soon 😤

  • @jacchann

    @jacchann

    20 күн бұрын

    I’m personally glad because I always fell asleep trying to complete that expansion, so I never unlocked Lament, and I was tired of LFG’s telling me to go get it when I had a perfectly usable Goldtusk and Falling Guillotine

  • @jheun83

    @jheun83

    20 күн бұрын

    😢I'm still out DPSing other swords with Lament on Harold.

  • @revolutioninc7081

    @revolutioninc7081

    20 күн бұрын

    @@jheun83your anecdote is the result of lfg (or your friend group) being horrendous at damage, not a reflection of the weapon in your hand.

  • @PpTheGreatest

    @PpTheGreatest

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@jheun83 You would also do a lot more damage if you used something else

  • @manynukes11
    @manynukes1120 күн бұрын

    Lament is one of the most baffling nerfs they've ever made considering only legendary swords got better with wolfpack rounds.

  • @Dynasty1818

    @Dynasty1818

    20 күн бұрын

    It's not really - the 2nd encounter in the Salvation's Edge raid is sword-heavy, and if everyone used Lament it'd be too easy. So they nerfed Lament to the point of being laughable now, considering they also added the new Ergo Sum and Wave Frame swords. It makes complete sense to nerf Lament but they went too far. The second it was announced, plenty were suspecting a Sword encounter in the new raid and they were right.

  • @EatsUsedTP

    @EatsUsedTP

    20 күн бұрын

    lament gets wolfpack

  • @themagicalex

    @themagicalex

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@EatsUsedTP ...

  • @jay-5061

    @jay-5061

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@EatsUsedTPthe brain dead thrall have come out to feast

  • @EatsUsedTP

    @EatsUsedTP

    20 күн бұрын

    @@jay-5061 I shall continue spreading misinformation

  • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
    @ROFLWAFFLELAWL420 күн бұрын

    One argument with Ill Omens: Attrition Orbs allows it to self generate stacks to use for Argent Blade as well as surges. A single heavy I believe on casters is 10 hits so every heavy you're getting an orb. In most scenarios it wont mean much if you already have other members generating orbs too but I think it's something to consider for solo players or random match making.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    We do use Attrition in SE speedruns for Herald for this very reason!

  • @AgnosticRunner
    @AgnosticRunner20 күн бұрын

    TLDR: Taipan still clears (trust me)

  • @AuralVirus
    @AuralVirus20 күн бұрын

    Would love to see a Boss damage Bootcamp series (of) video(*s) to help those of us new(er) to raiding etc requiring hints & tips + to up our dmg output.

  • @zackreph939

    @zackreph939

    19 күн бұрын

    Going in-depth on rotations would be huge, agree

  • @Gaffroninja
    @Gaffroninja20 күн бұрын

    Thank you for all your work and time putting everything here together, it’s so frustrating seeing other damage tests and things don’t feel explained or tested thoroughly, or not even consistent across tests with wildly inaccurate numbers to back that up. You and the peeps helping you are amazing!

  • @ibiddengt5023
    @ibiddengt502320 күн бұрын

    Was going into withdrawals before this was uploaded. Thanks Aegis!

  • @ch_hassan-PAK
    @ch_hassan-PAK20 күн бұрын

    that is a lot of work my guy. very much appreciated.

  • @regal-27
    @regal-2720 күн бұрын

    Just wanted to let you know that I love these videos / spreadsheets so much. I've been playing destiny for a long time (mostly PvP), but never had the confidence to push into higher difficulty PvE stuff due to a lack of knowledge of what I should bring. Cleared my first GMs via LFG this week, and even ended up helping someone else get their first GM clear!

  • @Rawkr57
    @Rawkr5720 күн бұрын

    Love your work! Thank you so much for everything youve done for the community.

  • @S38RXY
    @S38RXY20 күн бұрын

    Gods work. Thank you Aegis. The wait for your content is always worthwhile.

  • @user-el2mk8sb9s
    @user-el2mk8sb9s18 күн бұрын

    You just gained a subscriber ! Amazing video. Hope to see Hazardous Propulsion dame testing in the future for our fellow titans

  • @chapel4
    @chapel420 күн бұрын

    thank god i don’t have to think anymore

  • @tobysealz3574
    @tobysealz357420 күн бұрын

    wake up babe aegis just uploaded

  • @UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster
    @UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster20 күн бұрын

    my opinion has arrived

  • @Dayssbefore
    @Dayssbefore20 күн бұрын

    Aegis, as always great video! Thanks for doing this for the community.

  • @NingenSlayerZamasu
    @NingenSlayerZamasu20 күн бұрын

    Hearing how Lament got hit hard and isn’t doing much for DPS sword wise hurts man. It’s one of my top 5 exotics that I love and hearing how it’s struggling this much and how badly Bungie nerfed it sucks. I really wish it ends up getting some buff or catalyst in the near future. Like Argent Blade or something, literally anything.

  • @JoelHernandez-tz3vk

    @JoelHernandez-tz3vk

    20 күн бұрын

    Nerfed and power crept at the same time. Just like LFRs the year before.

  • @Zasz33
    @Zasz3320 күн бұрын

    Our data analyst cooked hard, thanks for the work. Can't wait for part 2 !

  • @sora_2342
    @sora_234220 күн бұрын

    Very good vid! Lots of work and we appreciate it!

  • @rogerorchestry
    @rogerorchestry20 күн бұрын

    love your content, so valuable. thanks again!

  • @ih197
    @ih19720 күн бұрын

    I’ve been waiting for this video since TFS launched!!

  • @radar345611
    @radar34561120 күн бұрын

    Always a W when aegis uploads

  • @broodingtree2014
    @broodingtree201419 күн бұрын

    You're amazing, man. This has got to be so much work

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    It is indeed, but the work's been done for a while, now I'm just turning it all into videos :P

  • @shathieash7067
    @shathieash706720 күн бұрын

    Would you mind testing Microcosm + Hazardous Propulsion? If you have a Song of Flame warlock alongside you, you pretty much have 100% uptime on your Thruster, and you can stack the rockets really quickly with Microcosm. I've been using it for Witness DPS, and it's a pretty easy-to-use option that can still pump out huge numbers.

  • @charlesnieder8512
    @charlesnieder851220 күн бұрын

    Have you tested ill omen with attrition orbs? It keeps radiant, argent ordinance, and surges active. If with 6 of them you can get another super off in a phase then it could be very good

  • @luk4aaaa
    @luk4aaaa20 күн бұрын

    my goat is back with more funny numbers so I can pretend to know what I'm doing

  • @alabamaman1372
    @alabamaman137220 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the numbers.

  • @KidneyFailure_671
    @KidneyFailure_67120 күн бұрын

    Ty for the numbers again :) i can definitely speak for acrius with it's ease of use and very good damage, was doing salvations edge for the first time and everyone else was on swords while i was on acrius for herald of finality, and i was always at double the damage of everyone else at the wipe screen. I was also wondering if cloudstrike+crux with hazardous propulsion is a viable dps option for stuff like witness (im a titan main so i don't have access to celestial) and i was relieved to see you recommending it. Keep up the great work you do for this community

  • @fieryflame6676
    @fieryflame667620 күн бұрын

    These videos really help put things into mathematical perspective. Thanks for the work you do, although gruelling.

  • @TheLegoPro154
    @TheLegoPro15416 күн бұрын

    You are seriously a godsend to the community bro. Such an underrated channel. Thank you for all your hard work!

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    16 күн бұрын

  • @ActionJacksonDavis
    @ActionJacksonDavis20 күн бұрын

    Love the work you do, thanks for everything you provide the Destiny community.❤

  • @stephenbean1264
    @stephenbean126420 күн бұрын

    I THOUGHT I WAS AWAKE BUT THEN AEGIS UPLOADED. NOW IM AWAKE 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Drewski024
    @Drewski02418 күн бұрын

    Great video!! Thanks for the work bro!!

  • @willphelps40
    @willphelps4020 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you. Excited for your thoughts on Song of Flame, star eater Song of Flame, and Song of Flame with a demo GL/rocket.

  • @itzcobrahands430
    @itzcobrahands43020 күн бұрын

    One combo I've been trying is Euphony swapping to Cataphract with ALH + Cascade point. Curious on your thoughts if you've tried it. The cascade point lets you dump the mag and get back to Euphony before the spindle stacks fall off.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Will try it out!

  • @rigoFGC1
    @rigoFGC120 күн бұрын

    Nice to see that Thunderlord is still the highest DPS option with all these amazing options available now. Great testing!

  • @General_Genius
    @General_Genius19 күн бұрын

    Great video. Cant wait to see if OG Verity options can still beat prismatic Veritys (Inmost light/Apotheosis/...). Especially without the teammate buff on the Spirits

  • @jayus666
    @jayus66620 күн бұрын

    He's officially done it, now I don't need another Aztecross video for 6 months😂

  • @arealphoenix9897
    @arealphoenix989720 күн бұрын

    Unsure how valuable this is but something I like about Euphony is that it procs cascade point in just two crits, less than one burst. I could see it making a great pairing with a cascade/bns heavy GL. I've been using it with an autoloading/cadcade Cataphract. Probably not optimal but dumping the nades with cascade gives me plenty of time to switch back to Euphony to keep the spindle damage buff going, and it makes good backup DPS once I've dumped all the nades. Double strand is nice for surges also.

  • @Scryllix
    @Scryllix9 күн бұрын

    Let's go I don't have to think now. Tysm cutie

  • @arshmakhi9721
    @arshmakhi972120 күн бұрын

    Ergo Soom and Ty for the video!

  • @strippelhoff4898
    @strippelhoff489820 күн бұрын

    crazy work dude

  • @lizard2361
    @lizard236120 күн бұрын

    Man you are amazing love your content keep it up❤

  • @chungo2548
    @chungo254820 күн бұрын

    The nice part with euphony though is that its a special weapon with good damage but its also really good at clearing rooms with a semi decent strand/prismatic build if you build into threadlings a bit so the damage is more of a secondary part of it imo. Also just looks sick.

  • @KoHaku1229
    @KoHaku122920 күн бұрын

    My GOAT has returned

  • @darthnater6204
    @darthnater620419 күн бұрын

    As I don’t play anymore it is very interesting how the game has evolved thank you Aegis

  • @charlie-vw7zw
    @charlie-vw7zw20 күн бұрын

    Pack Hunter also makes proc'ing Attrition Orbs easier, I was making orbs nonstop at Herald

  • @ModularRefridgerator
    @ModularRefridgerator20 күн бұрын

    Would MARSILION-C (hvy SOLAR gl) with envious + full court, paired with stillhunt, be better than edge transit for say witness dps?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    Potentially, will test

  • @warv6552

    @warv6552

    18 күн бұрын

    Full court only buffs the explosive portion of the GLs damage by 25%, and since marsilion is a 150rpm that means the blast radius is extremely low so full court is not as good.

  • @potatis4693
    @potatis469320 күн бұрын

    Hey, Aegis! Im curious if you've tested the viability of Arc Souls vs Star-eater Scales Nova bomb now that we have an easy convenient way of making your entire team amplified via Ascendance. If I remember correctly, your spreadsheet pre-TFS stated that 1 amplified + 5 regular Arc Souls outdamaged a Thread of Evolution Needlestorm in around 13 seconds, the change to 6 Amplified Arc Souls should roughly be an 86% damage increase. In addition, anyone with an Arc Soul on Prismatic will likely give it a 10% damage increase thanks to Facet of Courage.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    Next video! :)

  • @Weebfox
    @Weebfox20 күн бұрын

    Im less excited for christmas than these, bless 🙏

  • @lumayne8829
    @lumayne882918 күн бұрын

    It's weird that we talk about still hunt as "Still hunt with nighthawk" but we compare it to euphony on it's own. Euphony apex swap with apotheosis veil can outdamage a still hunt apex swap. Done it multiple times and consistently do more damage with that than with still hunt + celestial

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    An equal comparison would be adding an additional Nighthawk Goldie in front of the SH option then, and that would skew things even further towards SH, Apotheosis doesn't affect the Spindle stack rate compared to what's in the spreadsheet, and it definitely doesn't outdamage SH

  • @lumayne8829

    @lumayne8829

    17 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic can hit 10.5 mil with it on still hunt on the witness in 2 phases + final stand, most I've seen from SH NH is around the same if not less. So the numbers on this spreadsheet gotta be off somehow. other than that sick video

  • @lumayne8829

    @lumayne8829

    17 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic Unless in my 30 clears I've never played with a "good" SH NH hunter, which is entirely possible, but I'm fairly sure nah

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    @@lumayne8829 Comparing against random people in an uncontrolled environment using wipe screen numbers after 2 phases + final isn't a good way to test DPS

  • @lumayne8829

    @lumayne8829

    17 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic I mean testing DPS in a DPS phase over 30 clears each having at LEAST one hunter but some having 5, I personally think is a lot better way to test it

  • @BuckShot456789
    @BuckShot45678920 күн бұрын

    I still hate how Bungie robbed Two Tailed as a viable DPS option when they changed the RoF for the catys 3rd rocket. Most exotics get their 15 minutes of fame, but Two Tailed only got 5 and it was unjustifiable for a change as drastic as that. Can you imagine the rocket meta with Gally, DBreath, Apex, Crux and TTF swap rotations? It would have been pure bliss. Especially with TTF applying void weaken or suppression effects just by using it with certain artifact mods. Im not a huge stan of TTF but i will always back it when i say that Bungie dropped the bag with the change they gave it. Think Anakin not being a master levels of disappointment and frustration.

  • @warv6552

    @warv6552

    20 күн бұрын

    The real nail in the coffin was when they standardized all jolt values so TTFs Jolt no longer did more than other sources

  • @ginjadingo2941

    @ginjadingo2941

    20 күн бұрын

    @@warv6552so ttf is useless?😔

  • @warv6552

    @warv6552

    20 күн бұрын

    @@ginjadingo2941 Yeah the jolt went from like around 17,000 damage to around 4,000 which is a 76% nerf. And since it’s dps was lower than legendary rockets, that jolt was the only reason to use it in endgame content.

  • @BuckShot456789

    @BuckShot456789

    20 күн бұрын

    @warv6552 Back when the caty first dropped and people put in the grind to unlock and use it, TTF was putting up some competitive numbers, despite the jolt being out of band. It was just as easy to use as any other rocket, and if you used strand grenades that by-passed the reload, which most people were doing with gally swaps and legendary rockets to begin with. That Thump-Thump TTF had knowing you sent a 3rd rocket for extra damage was bliss. Now it's Thump-Thump-Thump, which tanks the RoF and DPS. It was so sad of a change.

  • @warv6552

    @warv6552

    20 күн бұрын

    @@BuckShot456789 Without the extra damage jolt it’s damage couldn’t really compare to pack Hunter lengdaries. It’s only real place was in niche solo situations like Solo prophecy speedrun on Kell Echo esp since the season that they nerfed jolt was the same season Apex Predator got refreshed and basically made every other rocket irrelevant, as well as them changing surge mods so that 3x void weapon boosts no longer benefited all 3 rockets essentially meant TTF had 1 single season where it was a competitive damage option. By the time they changed the fire rate it was basically already dead but apparently they thought it needed another nerf so now it’s dead.

  • @nytrix9406
    @nytrix940620 күн бұрын

    God blessed aegis upload!! will we see a rotation designed around hazardous propulsion some point in the future? (i really want to see how good it is with grand overture)and is pro memoria with recon BNS good compared to other LMGs?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    Overture numbers use Lumina here which is the same buff

  • @alexA.7529
    @alexA.752920 күн бұрын

    What about Dragon's Breath and Scatter Signal? It's a simple swap that I do quite often in a lot of content, and I would like to know how it fares with other damage options

  • @CrimsonHeroes
    @CrimsonHeroes20 күн бұрын

    The shatter damage from glacial quake on prismatic with star eaters is so good it’s funny

  • @KrachBone
    @KrachBone18 күн бұрын

    ive been using my legendary blast furnace over outbreak, and it is amazing. curious what the dps would be. my roll is frenzy kinetic tremors with a 60 rnd mg

  • @KryptOKnight184
    @KryptOKnight18417 күн бұрын

    maybe this is just really, really bad but what does Tessellation's grenade shot w/ Song of Flame look like?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    16 күн бұрын

    It's not great haha you can see Tessellation swap DPS in the spreadsheet

  • @samuelviden7412
    @samuelviden741220 күн бұрын

    I recently got the Star-Eater/Apotheosis combo exotic class item for my warlock. Fantastic for DPS phases, obviously.

  • @aeveryhawk3036
    @aeveryhawk303620 күн бұрын

    really early into the video still but I'm happy to see that lost signal is competitive with witherhoard

  • @blueknightcraze6766
    @blueknightcraze676620 күн бұрын

    For summum bonum is that assuming chaos reshaped is already at x2 at the start of dps? Does chaos reshaped work like shot caller did in pantheon where you can hit something while its immune to get it going before dps phase starts?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Yes, and it works on any damage received/given so you just need to be in combat

  • @MrTrombonejr
    @MrTrombonejr20 күн бұрын

    What would be the best option to pair with cloudstrike for a longer dmg phase i.e. the witness? My choices are auto loading full court/EL/cascade wendigo or recon EL crux termination (no wolfpack).

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Both fine

  • @lewismcdowall9873
    @lewismcdowall987320 күн бұрын

    Holy wowza all that stream time coming together to make one saucy dmg explanation papa aegis is spoiling me today

  • @AtlRopeGuy
    @AtlRopeGuy20 күн бұрын

    A true boss. Thank you!

  • @lyle7836
    @lyle783620 күн бұрын

    Any plans to add how much damage you pick up per heavy brick on the spreadsheet, I think it would be a good addition and I think that’s the reason I still have competitive damage on retrofit in certain boss encounters

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Yeah that's a cool idea I was considering adding :)

  • @xTheLostLegendx
    @xTheLostLegendx20 күн бұрын

    is vorpal still bugged when you swap the weapon? also Levi is still fps bug boosted

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    No and no (at least on raid bosses)

  • @puddind222
    @puddind22220 күн бұрын

    Hey Thanks so much for the video man this is amazing, do you have any data on Leviathans breath without oathkeeper? Is it still worth it ontop of something like Micro?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    The difference is extremely minor no worries

  • @puddind222

    @puddind222

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic Thanks so much for putting the time in for us, can't wait for the ability video!

  • @jedihotdog9890
    @jedihotdog989020 күн бұрын

    The area denial came in clutch, i can use it and cold comfort and still keep my exotic for add clear or swap to still hunt for some nutty dps

  • @aChaomein
    @aChaomein18 күн бұрын

    If you’re in a solo situation trying to get boss kills in less phases, is it dps or total damage you want? Trying to “farm”Warlords Ruin and sometimes I don’t wanna LFG and am fine with less drops

  • @hunterfj0428

    @hunterfj0428

    17 күн бұрын

    It really depends. If you have a 5 second damage window dps would be better. If you have time to burn all of your ammo then total damage is what you want. It really depends on the damage phase there is no correct answer here.

  • @xblp2
    @xblp220 күн бұрын

    kneel for the king

  • @slime_ism

    @slime_ism

    20 күн бұрын

    tongue out or nah

  • @pupperaccino
    @pupperaccino20 күн бұрын

    How much does Cloudstrike's dps suffer when shooting a boss that is not as thick as Templar or Phry'zhia? Would Still Hunt be better for those bosses that aren't as thick? I'd assume it'd be better for bosses that have a higher crit multiplier such as the last wish bosses or Caiatl.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    I can try using it on a boss that isn't too think but there aren't that many I can think of that aren't crit bosses

  • @grenade_37
    @grenade_3718 күн бұрын

    Dude your vids are amazing thak you so much ! I still have a quick : What do you recommend to supplement the dps of a (Titan) Tractor user ? Preferably in slot 1. I'm using Scater signal with Overflow and Controled Burst, but i wonder if there's anything beter i can use

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    That's a good starting choice, double sniper or double slug are also fine

  • @grenade_37

    @grenade_37

    17 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic i'm affraid i'll struggle with no primary

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    You can run rocket sidearm until damage then swap

  • @grenade_37

    @grenade_37

    17 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic oh yeah okay, thanks dude!

  • @MrTmm97
    @MrTmm9719 күн бұрын

    Many of us wish we could give you way more than 1 like on the video. Here’s a comment to go with it. You put so much time and effort into these videos. There’s no way they pay out to the effort you put in. Thanks!

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

  • @MylestotheGallon
    @MylestotheGallon20 күн бұрын

    I have a build that I use with Euphony that does not match still hunt but does let me not lag behind as much, I've found that with an apotheosis star eater bond running threadling nades and needlestorm, I am able to do super, nade, fire, nade, fire, nade, fire, nade, fire then swap to an auto loading BnS cataphrac then continue back to Euphony keeping up the buff while firing 2 shots with it before swapping back to cataphrac, it could be better if the cata has cascade over BnS but I tend to get out my ammo in the GL before Witness damage is over, could be something interesting to test for a warlock rotation

  • @MattyDimes
    @MattyDimes17 күн бұрын

    So don’t use linears for DPS now right? What would you guys use on someone like Ir Yut? Would tracking rockets be viable? Or stick with Levi’s?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    I'm making a boss-specific damage video at some point but yeah like Div + Micro or rockets can be used

  • @Konnerading
    @Konnerading20 күн бұрын

    It would be cool to see how the scorching rounds from song of flame works with better kinetic weapons like outbreak, supremacy, microcasm, bastion, lucky pants.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    In my experience the effect isn't that significant but I might test it later

  • @Konnerading

    @Konnerading

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic yeah it seems scorch rounds only proc every so often depending on the weapon type so it probably isnt substantial. The only other thing that would possibly work would be if swapping weapons resets the timer. Even then the only real world benefit might be for a dragonsbreath rotation but i feel like song of flame + apotheosis veil probably do the best or close to the best damage and is far easier to pull off than some wild swap stuff

  • @friendlyelites
    @friendlyelites20 күн бұрын

    Ager's with Icefall mantle is very good for Titans to use during a stasis surge since Behemoth doesn't work on anything further than 10 feet than you, ran it on the Arc/Stasis pantheon and almost always topped out damage while using it with a half decent Cold Comfort. If Pantheon comes back keep that combo in your pocket for Caretaker and Explicator.

  • @pupperaccino

    @pupperaccino

    20 күн бұрын

    It is unfortunate but stasis has the single worst choice of weapons for DPS, the only one that stands out really only being Cold Comfort. Good thing that there's always at least 2 surges available for any activity. :)

  • @CarpetFTW

    @CarpetFTW

    20 күн бұрын

    They ruined stasis titan with the stasis rework (nerf). It's to the point that the behemoth clan fell apart because the subclass now has no viability.

  • @flxmez2754
    @flxmez275420 күн бұрын

    Enjoyed the streams about some things in this video and you cutting it during SE practice, keep up the good work G. You’re cooking hard!🫶🏼

  • @superman15922
    @superman1592216 күн бұрын

    One note about Bastion, it performs amazingly with Wishful Ignorance, as the Wishful melee dmg buff last long enough to continue stacking it even after shooting Bastion again. So if you just Bastion - Punch continuously you'll constantly habe the trench barrel buff + you'll even further buff the Wishful punches.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    16 күн бұрын

    I'll add it to the list

  • @KDLoki
    @KDLoki20 күн бұрын

    Ive been getting back into Destiny 2 and although I've lost interest in endgame content I still find these videos entertaining. Also, hearing Lament and heavy linears have fell off a cliff is geneuinely upsetting. Cataclysmic was my go to throughout the whole of Witch Queen too.

  • @ThePizzaDevourer
    @ThePizzaDevourer17 күн бұрын

    Man, I could feel the dive linears had taken, but I didn't realize just how grim it was. Hopefully they're adjusted soon since they take at least a bit more aim than most of the other options.

  • @never3nder
    @never3nder20 күн бұрын

    The one place I really like 4th times retrofit for is final boss of Warlords ruin. A boss that is very easy to crit, and has enough seperate phases that you can reasonably actually make use of the total reserves

  • @Shiroyasha830
    @Shiroyasha83020 күн бұрын

    so for warlock and titans we do cloudstrike and crux termination/wendigo or should we go still hunt and apex rotation? Also can bns edge transit with still hunt swap but with full void surge be better on titan or warlocks compared to still hunt and apex combo?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    I'll test rotations specifically later this season but Apex's better perks might outweigh the decision

  • @Shiroyasha830

    @Shiroyasha830

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic Thank you brother

  • @ThatGuy-rz6tv
    @ThatGuy-rz6tv20 күн бұрын

    Would the “Other Half” sword be a decent substitute for Bequest? With the recent reintroduction of old Dares perks to the crafted weapon pool, Other Half can now also get relentless strikes + Surrounded.

  • @postmental_thoughts

    @postmental_thoughts

    20 күн бұрын

    it would work as a replacement but you might as well use a different sword anyway bc bequest is as good as it is due to having more impact than other swords in the same frame. the perks on the bequest are nice but if its impact was normalised there are many other swords that would outclass it due to having better perks.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    It's worse but not that much worse

  • @kaboomster
    @kaboomster20 күн бұрын

    Will you be testing whether or not it will be worth it to run multiple wolfpack round ergo sum's in the detailed ergo sum video?

  • @pupperaccino

    @pupperaccino

    20 күн бұрын

    Similarly to Gjallarhorn, only one person will need to run a Wolfpack Ergo Sum for the whole team to get the benefit, and obviously that person can still use a heavy sword as well.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    Definitely not worth

  • @iKnownot999
    @iKnownot99919 күн бұрын

    Im suspectjng this is a no, but ill ask anyway, given that casting well converts casters damage to super damage, would star eaters have an effect on that damage? (I know well doesnt appear on prismatic so its impossible [for now])

  • @hunterfj0428

    @hunterfj0428

    17 күн бұрын

    It really depends on the way it is coded but I would imagine it would work with well based off the fact that novabomb is buffed even after your super is over.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    Nah I'll explain in the next video

  • @Lolbsterbiscuit
    @Lolbsterbiscuit20 күн бұрын

    How does Hazardous Propulsion impact heavy/special use cases and decision making? Would hazardous make something like indebted kindness or the new solar rocket sidearm more valuable as a special than a 4ttc sniper for example?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    It doesn't

  • @Lolbsterbiscuit

    @Lolbsterbiscuit

    19 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic I figured as much, the rocket sidearms can only be so good at so many things

  • @siwadejpumee7399
    @siwadejpumee739917 күн бұрын

    how about the banner of war post-nerf? i tested it on warlock's ruin first boss with BoW + Syntho + 1-2 punch + tractor + shield crush, the damage is 488k per hit (244k*2). i wanna know titan grapple melee dps is still worth it or not since the grapple melee damage rotation itself is so hard to perform without making mistakes, it needs high affort but is that worth it?

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    17 күн бұрын

    It's not bad still usable

  • @LuisIncursio
    @LuisIncursio20 күн бұрын

    You often use rain of fire towards the dps/damage numbers but i never see anyone use rain of fire. Is it that significant? Could you include damage values without it, as im assuming most people including myself dont do armour swaps and wont use rain of fire just for the reload.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Not really it's just to represent a reload bypass to more faithfully represent the raw damage of the weapon

  • @safc826
    @safc82620 күн бұрын

    I'm only 9 minutes in, so this might be answered later on. But you mentioned that rockets hurt because you need someone to run GHorn, and they lose damage that way. Would a Titan running Hazardous Propulsion be enough to offset that damage loss?

  • @postmental_thoughts

    @postmental_thoughts

    20 күн бұрын

    definitely not, it has the same damage buff as lumina and in like the first two minutes aegis says all tests are buffed by lumina so you can look at ghorn in the spreadsheet for a more quantifiable answer.

  • @life-destiny1196
    @life-destiny119620 күн бұрын

    Any word on Sightline Signal as a Lucky Pants option? Enhanced Precision Instrument should put it around where Malf is at base, right? Though needing an arc super isn't great.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    20 күн бұрын

    I don't think so? I will test it when it's out though

  • @life-destiny1196

    @life-destiny1196

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TheAegisRelic Sorry, Sightline Survey. And it's an act 1 gun, you can get the pattern. Curious though!

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Wait you can? I'm copping :D

  • @BlueDryBones1
    @BlueDryBones120 күн бұрын

    I'm curious how Edge of Concurrence compares in dps. 2x Lucent Blade allows 1 Lightning Seeker shot every third shot. Also the 3 shot rotation times well with ALH setups.

  • @TheAegisRelic

    @TheAegisRelic

    19 күн бұрын

    Might add

  • @BlueDryBones1

    @BlueDryBones1

    19 күн бұрын

    @TheAegisRelic That'd be nice. Can even consider Triton Vice if testing DPS since it can overflow the magazine to 15. Due to the ammo refund when activating Lightning Seeker it allows 23 shots to be fired without reloading. Gotta make sure you overflow to 14 first and then do the special reload. I know it does good damage for a special weapon but have yet to see anyone actually do any real comparisons with it.

  • @scottbrayton9484
    @scottbrayton948420 күн бұрын

    the lament nerf was so stupid. what was even the point?

  • @pupperaccino

    @pupperaccino

    20 күн бұрын

    bungo no like sword going brr. :c

  • @svn5994

    @svn5994

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@pupperaccinoSurrounded bequest:

  • @pupperaccino

    @pupperaccino

    20 күн бұрын

    @@svn5994 i meant literally brr, chainsaw vroom vroom

  • @freddyflo7364
    @freddyflo736420 күн бұрын

    i still think that the darci buff a while back should not have been jolt, which essentially made it a heavy ammo cloudstrike, but instead give it the ability to scan the type of champions and then apply that type after a second or so, thus giving us a choice between burst heavy or that.

  • @cookies23z

    @cookies23z

    20 күн бұрын

    damn... that would have been super cool actually

  • @nerdherder9340
    @nerdherder934017 күн бұрын

    Damn bastion is looking really nice for solo dungeons. Good at nuking a major, synergizes with a lot of the common melee-based builds, decent boss damage. Could def see it being pretty good on something like gahlran where damage phases run long

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