This is the video I've been waiting for! It's bizarre how no one talks about Arvydas even when Domantas is in the league now. Wish more people shared Arvydas stories.

@bachemlightandlili4134

5 ай бұрын

Facts

@bartell1307

5 ай бұрын

Arvydas Sabonis came into the league at age 32. During his playing time in Portland there was already David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaquille O’Neal in the West Conference getting the votes for the All Star team. If Sabonis came to Portland back in late 1980s and helped the 90 and 92 Finals teams win the NBA championship. This would be a different Conversation

@CaliCool91

5 ай бұрын

Right? And all we have to do is imagine his son being 7’3 with a better shot. Easily a Top 5 player in todays NBA.

@Bigedub101

5 ай бұрын

​@bartell1307 He'd probably have st least 3 rings. Lakers might even make as many Finals

@jackson5781

5 ай бұрын

Dude I got all kinds of Sabonis stories, both him and Oscar Schmidt stories of how they torched us in 87 and 88

I am 40 from Eastern Europe. The first names associated with basketball I've heard as a kid were Kareem Abdul Jabar and Sabonis. I didn't know what they look like, what nationality they were, I just knew they were the two best ever and there was no third. Like Maradona/Pele type of thing at that time.

Sabas was so much fun to watch on that Portland team. Shooting that deep two, dishing from the post and battling Shaq, those were the days at the Rose Garden.

@eddieatoms5041

4 ай бұрын

💯 He was cold even in his older age. I remember what you’re talking about. I loved watching him on that Blazers team. His passing & shooting was top tier.

Pretty sure David Robinson and Danny Manning know about Sabonis.

@jackson5781

5 ай бұрын

Yep and my alumnus of Coach Ron Slaymaker would tell you how cold Sabonis was

@manumalia

5 ай бұрын

Lol yeah. I saw that game.

@dudermcdude9245

4 ай бұрын

Mr Robinson got eaten up.

@jackson5781

4 ай бұрын

@@dudermcdude9245 both him and Manning both.

Got to see Sabonis twice. 1996 Against 76ers in the Spectrum. And 2003 in East Rutherford against the Nets. Dime city!!!!

He is the sole reason for the 92 dream team

@randybarnes4440

5 ай бұрын

facts!!!! after they destroyed us, we had to readjust! same thing happened with olympic hockey, and overall, america dont like to be shown up on the big stage

@thedoranwilliamsshow6863

5 ай бұрын

Exactly

@selfishstockton6123

4 ай бұрын

No

@louky2228

4 ай бұрын

Haha! You don’t have a clue

@noeymo

4 ай бұрын

*sole

Basically the first Jokic…

@jackson5781

5 ай бұрын

Oh he was way better than Jokic. He schooled our Olympic teams back in 87 and 88. Go look. He schooled David Robinson. He busted up Shaq a few times as an old Sabonis.

@KlikQuot

5 ай бұрын

Exactly but he broke all the records and was already all time great where he’s from

@itsmeitstrue

5 ай бұрын

@@jackson5781Waaaaaaaaaay more athletic, bigger, n stronger. Honestly prob a better shooter too. His passing ability was elite too, but we cant say hes a better passer than Joker cuzz that dude throws some serious dimes. You could go on to say Arvy mighta been the best big of all time if not for injury. He was ahead of his time and a physical specimen

@0608jeff

5 ай бұрын

put prime healthy OG Sabonis in his son's place and he would be a 7'3" version of Jokic, would play above the rim much more, block and alter hella more shots, and turn the Kings into a legit title contender

@memcrew1

5 ай бұрын

No, he was the first Sabonis.

"Stroke the tramp" is a new phrase for me but I love it!

Still the best passing big man I’ve ever seen. Just imagine what we would’ve seen if he got to the league at least 10 years earlier. Definitely way ahead of his time. His son, Kevin Garnett, Wilt Chamberlain, Boris Diaw, Vlade Divac, Marcus Camby & Nikola Jokic are other great big man passers that come to mind for me.

@TTFMjock

5 ай бұрын

Jokic surpassed him.

@oddoni

5 ай бұрын

@@TTFMjock Take your homer glasses off.

@syrupofwahoo3059

5 ай бұрын

Luved Boris mention… 🙏🏼

@RaferAlstonAkaLAZIO

5 ай бұрын

This man knows basketball, not a lot would mention Camby as a good passing big.

@marvinj1000

5 ай бұрын

Bill Walton too

sheed is godfather of these modern nba big men

Sheed the reallest!! As Sabas told in one of his interviews to Lithuaniaan press "Sheed must have had the biggest hunger for W on our team" pitty they didnt get the chip

@kylepatillo5071

5 ай бұрын

They couldn't get past Shaq and Kobe

@bartell1307

5 ай бұрын

David Stern felt the highest rated NBA Finals would be LA Lakers vs LA Lakers! Indiana Pacers won the ECF in 2000 while the WCF went game 7 Blazers vs Lakers. The league doesn’t make so much money if two small market teams are competing in the NBA Finals.

@Bigedub101

5 ай бұрын

​@@kylepatillo5071the refs

@Bigedub101

5 ай бұрын

​@bartell1307 exactly Stern even was bias for Lakers

@woopty8878

5 ай бұрын

@@Bigedub101 Sabas has mentioned couple of time, that league managment wasnt very fond of the Blazers

Notice Sheeds eyes glaze when he heard the name Sabonis. Now talk about how he was going to beat your ass, but you didn't want that smoke.

@jus3278

4 ай бұрын

Sheed threw a towel right in his face and Sabonis didn't do anything 😂

@ergoat

4 ай бұрын

@@jus3278You missed part two of that story, of what went down in the locker room after.

@jus3278

4 ай бұрын

@@ergoat reading it now lol. I never knew

@MoralesCorner

4 ай бұрын

He did talk about it recently. I dont think you need to put it this way tho. He has ALWAYS shown love to Sabonis both as a player and as a teammate

Things wouldve went much differently for Jordan if Clyde had Sabonis in that Portland-Chicago series

@Bigedub101

5 ай бұрын

History would changed cause Portland gonna win at least 3

@xLeeroycranex

5 ай бұрын

Unlike all the other Finals teams MJ faced, Clyde was missing a perennial All-Star next to him. Sabonis would've been that.

@Jonas-PD

4 ай бұрын

@@xLeeroycranexThey would have had no answer for Sabas

@ektran4205

4 ай бұрын

atlanta drafted arvidas in 1985 since sabonis couldn't play outside of the iron curtain until 26 the nba reentered him in the for the 86 draft

@bigglilwayne7050

4 ай бұрын

@@ektran4205 That's not true, it was due to the fact that he was under the age of 21, which allowed him to re-enter the draft the following year..... Try again modafoga

“Keep your eye on it at all time, cuz you never know when they hit you with that ball, yo”

@ACarter87

4 ай бұрын

Aka “ball don’t lie”

SHEED, fantastic player

If he was not injured and came to NBA he would be GOAT. I am serious. Prime Sabonis is the best player I have ever seen. Imagine a 7-2, 260lb athletic monster, thst could dribble, pass, post up, shoot midrange and threes, while being an elite post defender and shot blocker. There is no one to compare him.

@yyynbbggsage7398

4 ай бұрын

He won't have access to soviet doping in the US

@jaytorr6701

4 ай бұрын

@@yyynbbggsage7398 😂😂 The league was full of cocaine and crack in the 70s-80s and doping was your concern?? How about recently those LeBron trips to Miami the past few years mid-season. Hair transplant?

@yyynbbggsage7398

4 ай бұрын

@@jaytorr6701 so would he have been as strong and fast as he was in the Olympics if he didn't have access to Soviet steroids? Nice deflection

The Sabonis' might be the best father/ son duo ever. Can't think of anyone else

@bigglilwayne7050

5 ай бұрын

Ummmmmmmm Rick Berry had how many sons play in the NBA???

@timacona

5 ай бұрын

@@bigglilwayne7050 how many were all stars?

@timacona

5 ай бұрын

@@bigglilwayne7050 I think Dell Curry made one All Star game. Besides that, when I comes to Father/son duos one is a star the other is a role player or fringe NBA player

@drumagus2258

5 ай бұрын

steph curry and his son dame lillard.

@shawnmccloskey32

5 ай бұрын

Luka and Booker aren't bad.

love sheed. love sabas. all love

First center I ever saw shoot or make a three. I absolutely lost my mind, my 8 year old self could not believe what I had just witnessed and he did it with such ease all the time. One of my favorite players ever to watch and his son is even better 💪

One of my fav team back then. Portland with sheed

Wonder if Sheed ever apologized for throwing a towel in his face.

Domantas Sabonis doesn't fall far from the Arvydas tree.

@woopty8878

5 ай бұрын

Yo baby Sabas is arctic kold:)) hope he goes to spurs and team up with Wemby

@BigCheefaDaOG

5 ай бұрын

We want Sabonis here in Atl with Trae

@fungyee77

4 ай бұрын

Love Domantas but his dad did it with a lot more flair

@Turk_2023

4 ай бұрын

His dad was 1 of the only dudes that could go toe to toe with Shaq.... Shaq would dunk on him but Sabonis would give it back

@Coldass

4 ай бұрын

He ain’t nothing compared to his daddy tbh

99-01 blazers last time i kept up with basketball. Im 35 years old from Memphis. Haven't cared about a team since then other than the Grizzlies 2010-till now. I remember yelling out Sabonis name when i would shot a jumper , joking around everybody else yelling out J

I hated when those Portland teams played my Jazz. Wallace and Sabonis would always take it to them!

Sabonis is the Jokic of his time

@Nick-7

4 ай бұрын

Sabonis also played against way better big men

Watched damn near every blazer game from 89-02, literally. Arvydas bounce passes to backdoor cutters whoa boy, talk about touch. No post player had dimes like that, back then. He could score the ball seemingly at will but was an incredibly unselfish passer. Always made the right play. Found joy in passing. I remember the first couple games after arvydas joined, his passes were catching the blazers off guard. Him on the pop in the pick and pop too was a bucket. Automatic in the circle. The baby hook. Full court bounce passes. Dude had serious mileage on those knees by the time he hit the league and just finessed NBA defenders with zero lateral quickness and seemingly cement in his shoes. I swear, a couple years after sabonis hit the league, you could see Shaq emulating the touch passes with his back to the basket. Sabonis was a trend setter. Under rated.

This is the best basketball podcast.

We need Sheed to cover Lame Ass All-star game & call LeBron out cuz he started this non competitive shit. Just look at that ASG with him vs Kobe .

@2H2521

5 ай бұрын

@michaelallen8112 LeBron is a loser! What a waste of a game, especially after going back to an actual proper format of East vs. West.

I believe Sabonis is what Jokic is today combined with prime Marc Gasol. A do-it-all center that can make plays, stretch the floor, post-up, and even defend.

Throwing that towel in Sabas' face was disrespectful

@bartell1307

5 ай бұрын

Rasheed Wallace was an emotional player. Also, Shaq was a difficult player to guard and officiate

@nocontentfromoldman5595

5 ай бұрын

I don't consider it a "bad" attitude as much as an unwillingness to play the PC/PR game. He wasn't going stand for being talked down to or gaslighted, which I can appreciate, but it definitely worked against him and the team because...you know...the world. All this is to say that 'Sheed was content to have the truth on his side, but you still have to treat people with respect to get them to see things your way.

@bartell1307

5 ай бұрын

I lived in Portland during the Sabonis and Wallace era. My grandmother had a house in the same neighborhood as Sheed. The Trail Blazers at the time had their practice facilities at Lewis and Clark College. I show Sheed drive around the neighborhood in his yellow Hummer. My father was asked by the medical director NBA to be the team psychiatrist for the Portland Trail Blazers.

@bartell1307

5 ай бұрын

Sheed would apply himself when he got angry! Sheed got a reputation with the referees for being a hothead. You don’t need the league in technical fouls for two seasons in a row. Sheed felt his emotional outburst didn’t cost the team wins. While in the playoffs the difference on winning or losing a game can come down to one or two bad possessions or plays.

@ThePecky1966

5 ай бұрын

Exactly! I was just thinking about that. I wish he had punched Rasheed in the mouth for that. What a sh*t teammate to do that.

Sabonis was a beast. One of best big men in his prime. There will never be a big like him. GOAT....

@cheetahturner4576

5 ай бұрын

You trippin he not top 15center all time

@AlldatJazz-rw9wy

5 ай бұрын

@@cheetahturner4576 see that's how little you think, I'm not talking about just in America. Man y'all show how small y'all think. He was global before you were born son.

@Gianluca-xn7ri

16 күн бұрын

Most ignorant basketball guy, as many Americans thinks basketball is only NBA.. Basketball is much more, European basketball, International, Olympic games, world championship..Arvydas Sabonis Top 5 centers of All Times, not All NBA..

Sabonis used to kill my Lakers back in the 2000's! Great memories and awesome player even tho he was past his prime.

@PanamaRedHerring

4 ай бұрын

He put up a lot of 33-12-9 against those laker squads

How baked is Sheed ! 😂

Damon, Bonzi, Steve Smith, Rasheed and Sabonis were some bad boys…

@bachemlightandlili4134

5 ай бұрын

Facts throw zbo on there to 💯💯🔥🔥

@NewKasuto

5 ай бұрын

99-00’ Blazers team was talented with Damon, Smitty, Pip, Sheed and Sabonis starting. Plus you had Greg Anthony, Bonzi, Detlef, Stacey Augmon, Brian Grant, and Jermaine O’Neal coming off the bench.

Sheed is on something

@DannyBZ9

4 ай бұрын

Edibles 😅😂

I remember a game where Sheed basically grilled Sabonis on a time out in the playoffs. I felt like young Rasheed thought he cpuld toughen a Euro player, despite Sabonis being older than him. I was under the impression he didnt really get respect from the Balzers players like he shouldve. Old Sabonis had some of the purest passes and best floor IQ i had seen up to that point from a big man. Im glad Rasheed is giving him props, and showing respect to him now.

He was a beast back in ‘88 Olympics… my gooodness 🔥🔥🔥🔥

There’s video of Shaq elbowing Sabonis in dah chest and Sabonis sporting the bruises.

He was incredible to watch, I saw him play in person, what was really incredible was seeing his tapes before he blew out his knees and then later came to the NBA, he could run like a gazelle at 7'3 before the injuries. I would say Wilt Chamberlain was the only seven footer that was more agile than young Sabonis. His passing as a center was the best of all time, even better than Walton until Jokic came along.

"cross you over and take 6 side steps".....haha, preach!!!!!!!

I saw some video of a young pre injuries sabonis .. and man .. Imagine an athletic Jokic

I love Sheed. He was the quintessential finishing piece of the 2004 Pistons team. However he was also a toxic mess and even suspended 1 game after he threw a towel in the face of Sabonis, his teammate!

There is always a place on a good team for a big man who can pass the basketball.

imagine if he cld come when he was younger! There was a rule in former SSSR amd former Yugoslavia that you cannot go play abroad before 27.years of age.

Legend talking about a legend 🚬👌🏻

3:35 - everyone was looking for clones, there just weren't any. and the warriors started fortifying what they had.

Sabonis was dazzling, especially as a passer, although like Jokic he was very deft around the basket. Not as intimidating as his boy, nor as physical, but top 20 all the same at center. I think of him like I do Walton: transcendent talent hobbled by injury yet still played for a long time at a high level.

And Sheed had so much respect for him he threw a towel in the guys face on the bench during a timeout on national TV.

He's got a Sinestro action figure. Cool.

Sabonis was a monster in europe before his knees operation inthe us he was great and as someone said he jokic before jokic

'HE NOT YOUR VYDAS .. HE'S ARVYDAS' ..

@PanamaRedHerring

4 ай бұрын

Rip city

Sheed was one of, if not, the best defensive bigs I’ve ever seen. He was the only guy to put Timmy Spurs on ice.

What we (USA) saw was an old Sabonis when he came in the league.

For the triangle offense, he means a good high post, mid post passing. Jordan, Pippen, Grant and Rodman who is an underrated passer himself all played that high post mid post position. The triangle is interchangeable.

Sheed threw a towel at the man. Whatever he has to say is pure

Keep your eyes on the prize 🏆

This is how I know Wemby is gonna be an all-time great. When KZread is already feeding me videos like this in his rookie year.

The entire reason the dream team came into existence

I always felt he would have been one of the greatest ever. He was scary

Sheed, why you throw the sweat towel on his head then 😂😂😂😂😂

Joker before joker

@jackson5781

5 ай бұрын

Was way better than Joker. Dude you should have seen him in his prime in the Olympics. Dude was cold. Go look in 87 and 88 against David Robinson. Then look at him when he was old and busted up Shaq!!!

@manumalia

5 ай бұрын

Far better than joker. Not even on the same category.

Taught his son well

Arvydas Sabonis was cold...nbl...i watched him play!

Wallace is spot on. Arvydas Sabonis might just have been the greatest non-American basketball player of all time when he was in his prime. There are videos here on KZread showing his amazing talents when he played for the Soviet Union. The Sabonis that played for Portland was- maybe- 60% of what he used to be.

@yyynbbggsage7398

4 ай бұрын

He lacked the soviet PEDs in the US as well. There's a reason former soviet countries did so well on olympics

This is why I laugh when I hear young dudes say Michael, Magic & Bird didn't play against anybody in the old NBA!

@DatsjoeYT

5 ай бұрын

It wasn’t so much that it was the matchups the only two players that gave mj trouble later on at his position was penny and Mitch Richmond like center was main thing back then now it’s about the wings and solid center play!

@mannied6395

5 ай бұрын

@@DatsjoeYT Only 1 player ever Really gave MJ trouble.....that was Joe Dumars, he admitted that himself.

@jarrod1766

5 ай бұрын

Jordan never had to face pre injuries Sabonis. Had the Blazers had him in 92 that series would have been much different

@mannied6395

5 ай бұрын

@jarrod1766 Sabonis was great, but in no way wld have been enough to beat Jordan. MJ faced way greater centers & forwards than Sabonis in his prime. Sabonis in his prime however may be the most under-rated center of all time.

@deegee6388

4 ай бұрын

Sheed has said it was hell for a POWER FORWARD back in the day when you play games back to back games against: David Robinson, Karl Malone, Chris Webber, Charles Barkley, Hakeem Olajuwan, Shaq, Ewing, and etc. This era of TRAVELING &PALMING the basketball is TRASH.

Very high IQ ball player. I saw him play against Shaq a couple times. His body wouldn’t still keep up but mentally he was light years ahead.

that is one of the reasons the suns dealt ayton for nurkic......twice the assists, helps the offensive flow

Hey Sheed, how about that towel throwing incident and when Sabonis threatened to kill you in the locker room???

Prime Arvydas was literally prime Jokic, only quicker and more athletic. By far the greatest "what if" case, because he was allowed to join the NBA way to late, when he was slow, heavily injured and broken.

Arvydas was past his prime, busted knees and playing against many HOF big men in the league at that time. But still managed to put up 12pts, 7reb & 2ast in less than 20min a night. We were robbed of an amazing talent, he would've been the Jokić of that ERA.

Imagine if you ran a 5 out offence. You Give everyone a chance to post up. If you have post up guards, you create chaos for the defence. And big men are closer to the basket their protecting. Especially, since zone defence was banned.

Too bad they don’t bother to talk how good prime Sabonis was. Mount Rushmore material for sure.

"...all the Analytic bullshit" Thank you Mr Wallace! There's more to the game than stats.

I would love to hear his story of him throwing a towel at Sabonis' face. I wonder what led him to do that.

Sabonis killed me every time on NBA Live 99

I'm from pdx area and never loved our "jailblazers"... I'm also a Seahawks fan and starting to think Sheed is the Marshawn Lynch of football.. genuinely enjoyable dude and probably misrepresented

It would have been really fun to watch Arvydas Sabonis play before the injuries because he was very athletic with leaping ability and could play above the rim, and a lot of people don't know that about him, and if he hadn't been hurt, it would have been a huge problem and a nightmare for a lot of people to go up against, especially in today's NBA. In conclusion, the Arvydas Sabonis that NBA fans have seen is merely a shadow of his former self.

One of the saddest moments is when Rasheed through the towel at his face bad look

Shame we didn't get him in his prime

Physically powerful, all muscle.

I just knew they was gone get the ring

Sheed you my dawg but ima have to pause ⏸️ you for Sabonis busting you in the face.😅

If Stern hadn’t pushed the button and mandated Sabonis’ phantom foul trouble, the Blazers win the ring and Shaw and Kobe get broken up ring-less

Sabonis could shoot 3's a little bit too, which was unheard of in the 90's. Sabonis was the prototype for modern Joker-Embiid like big man.

Our Jokic of that era.

Smart basketball player, and we didnt see Sabonis until WELL after his prime.

He's not your Vydas, he's not my Vydas, but He's Arvydas Sabonis!

We need Sheed to interview Sabonis. Let them talk about the time Sabonis threatened to kill Sheed after the towel incident.

Yeah but Sheed disrespected him often when with the Blazers.

Biggest what if in NBA history. Euroleague mvp at 40 or 41, portland doctors said he could get handicapped parking spot when he came to the league finally. Still gave work. Comes from a nation that were the last pagans in Europe, had the longest crusades against them, before that pillaged vikings themselves. 4 players were starters in the soviet union basketball team from that little tiny nation, that caused the dream team. Even the strongman goat comes from that nation. Sabonis was something else when he was young, a legend of the old world.

There was a debate for a while who was better, MJ or Sabonus

Sheed look and mannerism reminds me of Dave Chappelle

Giving cats hell when he played for the Soviet team.

@JP-hj1il

4 ай бұрын

Only reason he's not in the NBA in his early years. The NBA is too cowardly to stand up to the US government.

He was decent with the dimes too

If there was a lifetime movie about his life, Arvydas Sabonis would have been played by actor Howard Sherman.

Can we ask about magnets

Didn't mention the time he threw a towel in Sabonis face

Support the ABA & NBA 🏀

He wss old and crippled in Portland, but he still had those great hands

Evolution is real...