Rarefaction curves and advanced mothematics .
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Watch this space for any updates on if the rainforest moths we found were new to science!
Thanks to Rainforest Expeditions who organised our trip. www.rainforestexpeditions.com/
Full disclosure: we paid for our flights to Peru but Rainforest Expeditions provided our visit into the rainforest for free. We visited the Tambopata Research Center and the Refugio Amazonas lodges. If you'd like to visit via the method of exchanging money, check out their site or socials:
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Read more about the research being done in the rainforest by Wired Amazon. They also take volunteers if you like doing science while being rained on. www.wiredamazon.com/
Check out Mark's channel: / @afieldbiologist
Mark is also a Lecturer in Wildlife, Ecology & Conservation Science at the University of Suffolk. See his research here: scholar.google.co.uk/citation...
Second channel video over here: • Why do monkeys count i...
Huge thanks to my Patreon supporters. They bought me a Peru tourist t-shirt and a pair of socks with sloths on them. But the time we got out of the rainforest I had no clean clothes and had to buy a new outfit at the airport to be presentable enough to get on the plane home. / standupmaths
CORRECTIONS
- None yet, let me know if you spot anything!
Filming and editing by Alex Genn-Bash
Written and performed by Matt Parker
Produced live in the rainforest by Nicole Jacobus
Animations by William Marler
Music by Howard Carter
Design by Simon Wright and Adam Robinson
MATT PARKER: Stand-up Mathematician
Website: standupmaths.com/
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UK book: mathsgear.co.uk/collections/b...
Spoiler: In the next rainforest video I get stung by a bullet ant. But don't tell anyone, it's going to be a surprise. I know I was surprised. Downright shocked.
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If you want to see more Amazon insects and animals it's worth checking out Mark's channel: www.youtube.com/@aFieldBiologist I also want to use a pinned comment to thank camera-person Alex and producer Nicole for trudging into the rainforest with me to make videos. One of them got peed on by a monkey.
@PetraKann
4 ай бұрын
You do realise that Mathematics is not a science?
@danielcasas9244
4 ай бұрын
Mathematics is definitely a science in the sense of a systematic and formulated knowledge~proofs can be tested and found to be true, then one day an exception is found and the proof no longer valid-how is that any different than an experiment done in a lab needing repeated success to be considered valid?
@danielcasas9244
4 ай бұрын
Much love to you and the support crew =D
@simic0racle157
4 ай бұрын
which one
@samc7514
4 ай бұрын
which one?
My prediction before watching: he discovers a moth that turns out to be almost a new moth
@Smonserratm
4 ай бұрын
My prediction is he discovers a subspecies, which is almost discovering a species
@aspuzling
4 ай бұрын
Spot on haha
@ndwind
4 ай бұрын
And almost certainly square-shaped
@cacheman
4 ай бұрын
The Parker Moth would have to be some sort of mimic. A non-moth moth.
@ngiorgos
4 ай бұрын
No joke, there was a physics professor at the university I was studying that at some point anounced he discovered a new particle. He even gave it his name... Turns out it was just the electron... lol
I think a Parker Moth would actually be a butterfly
@bamakid
4 ай бұрын
I had the same thought.
@johnladuke6475
4 ай бұрын
If it is in fact a moth it needs to be called Parker Butterfly.
@sachamm
4 ай бұрын
Aren't all butterflies moths?
@CookiesFTA
4 ай бұрын
Or a small horse.
@jypsridic
4 ай бұрын
@@sachamm mega nope. Think rats and mice, very similar, but not similar enough.
If I were to discover an ultra-rare species of anything, I'd name it "common".
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
4 ай бұрын
I'd name it "butt". That's the difference between you and me.
@AntonioZL
3 ай бұрын
Common sparkling tibetan giraffe
Incredible that Matt flew all the way to the Amazon rainforest just to make a math/moth pun. That's dedication to the craft.
Mothew Parker is still out there. Taunting us.
The animations were absolutely adorable, shout-out to the animator!
Imagine being a moth and your species is finally named, and you're named the Parker Moth
@photovincent
4 ай бұрын
Even worse, your namesake is a square
@The_Omegaman
4 ай бұрын
A moth that isnt quite a moth but close enough
@sk8rdman
4 ай бұрын
@@The_Omegaman But it really gave it a go, and that's what matters.
@HuckleberryHim
4 ай бұрын
Except the moths don't gaf, it's all made up anyway, they all existed for millions of years whether we give an arbitrarily designated genetic clustering of them an arbitrary name or not
@deltalima6703
4 ай бұрын
If I was a moth I would hide if I knew that could happen.
We must preserve rare new species! Oh, how did you preserve it? Drowned it in alcohol.
I like how the very scientific method for collecting moths is "hang up a light and a bedsheet".
My child loves the section of the mathematical animals. He has to watch that section every night before he goes to sleep now. He has memorized it and recites it word for word along with you.
I’m a student at the university of Guelph in Canada and just yesterday I took a tour of the DNA barcoding facility mentioned at 4:19. Very fascinating place!
@FunkyKiwiVG
4 ай бұрын
How cool! I'll be staying there for a month this year to do insect barcoding!
@colinfew6570
4 ай бұрын
Fellow Guelphite! So cool to hear my home town mentioned.
So, Matt isn't content with having a square named after him, now he needs the Parker Moth, which is probably an almost-but-not-quite-perfect moth.
@MLeoDaalder
4 ай бұрын
Would be funny if it were called something like Lepidoptera Parkersquarii. XD
Matt: I had to chug... Me: Moths?! 😮 Matt: ...Water.
Being "smothed" if you will-- you know every moth turned and looked at him and just rolled their eyes before flapping away to giggle somewhere xD
Could you do a follow up on the theory behind rarefaction curves? This was a fun trip to the jungle, but left me hungry for some maths!
@GregorShapiro
4 ай бұрын
More maths please! If we get more moths too, that's just gravy.
You said "the *middle* of the Amazon rainforest" which got me wondering... where IS the middle of the Amazon rainforest? How would you determine that?
A long way to travel to use that pun.. You have my respect and admiration.
Matt tries to actually *find* the moth that he has proven the existence of. I suspect that he is an applied mothematician rather than pure.
There was a guy a while ago who placed nets under trees and sprayed them with pesticides. Apparently he found new species from every single tree he sprayed. Obviously awful to the organisms in the trees but it’s a pretty interesting experiment.
@allergiccookies6735
4 ай бұрын
was this in a paper? is there some link you'd be able to find to it?
@egodreas
4 ай бұрын
@@allergiccookies6735 That study was done by an international team of researchers at the Smithsonian tropical research institute in Panama, back in 2012. I believe the paper was called "Arthropod diversity in a tropical rainforest".
@muneeb-khan
4 ай бұрын
@@allergiccookies6735 Search Terry Erwin. The first result in Google Images is him spraying.
@HuckleberryHim
4 ай бұрын
I mean this is just completely needless, I've observed dozens of awesome rare species in shitty urban habitats with nothing but my eyes and a phone camera, and I've never hurt a single one If you wanna go crazy, get some blacklights or other bug-attracting lights and a white sheet (like what they do here). Or look up other ways to attract bugs. You will get way more than with pesticide, and bugs are much prettier alive and moving anyway. Also, to be clear, when you say "new species", you mean different species from the ones in other trees, right? Not new to science, surely, unless this guy is spraying trees in a remote New Guinean cloud forest. I saw over 100 species of animal and plant I'd never seen before in the span of a month or so last year, and I didn't kill a single one
It's weird that in that hypothetical habitat, there wasn't a single square-shaped animal with a number pattern.
Glad you finally noticed the typo in your channel name, accidentally putting an "a" instead of an "o". We didn't want to embarrass you by bringing it up.
@jezer8325
4 ай бұрын
True! I've been a huge fan of stondupmaths for a while now but the typo has always irked me..
@micayahritchie7158
4 ай бұрын
Lol
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
4 ай бұрын
Strange that Mott would leave a mistake like that unnoticed.
Moths are really cool. I am excited to see a new one, good luck.
It was very nice to see a video here out of Australia - England - USA. Congrats for taking the show to new places!
some of the clips in this are beautiful!
Eupseudosoma larissa, also known as the Parker Moth, is a species of moths first described in 1890.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
4 ай бұрын
Well, there you have it.
@nunyabiznis3595
4 ай бұрын
So you're saying Matt is a lot older than we thought.
I love "happy-looking crocodiles" as a description of caimans
Omg moth heaven! I want that many moths dancing around me 🥺
12:52 Matt tries to not retell Steamed Hams. "At this time of year, in this part of the country..."
This is great. Something I never really thought about much. Definitely as hard as I imagined to keep track of all these creatures.
Like mass rarefaction cell Rainworld world reference chills
16:47 That's the most beautiful insect I ever saw.
That was way more interesting than I thought it would be.
2:12 i love this gag cuz I (and im sure most others) completely expected the immediate cut to a nighttime shot. Heck i was actually just listening (not watching) the video and immediately thought the video had transitioned in true Parker fashion, but alas he was 2 steps ahead😂
Love it! Ya know, I think I'd really enjoy some sort of travel show with Matt Parker.. maybe call it _Maths in Strange Places_ or something like that. He'd talk about some math that's local to the area in some capacity.. maybe talk about the contribution of any of history's mathematicians that lived there too! I'm imagining it like _An Idiot Abroad,_ except with more math... and less Ricky Gervais.
yo, shoutout to the University of Guelph. Pretty cool hearing your home town mentioned in a youtube video about moths in Peru.
Omg that was trippy, I didn’t expect my uni to be mentioned (Guelph)
Less than a min from publish and I am already watching
This is such a beautiful video.
Sending love from India
Really excellent video!
I LOVE MOTHS AND I LOVE MATHS AND I LOVE MOTHS MATHS
@trizgo_
4 ай бұрын
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS TWO OF MY HYPERFIXATIONS IN ONE VIDEO I'M GOING INSANE
@lirachonyr
4 ай бұрын
stand up moths khgyudsfukyjdswccukhjascdkuhacsdhukisa
@danielcasas9244
4 ай бұрын
Haha
@theminecraft4202
4 ай бұрын
A Juniper viewer certainly
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
4 ай бұрын
But what about... maths moths?
This is the trick they missed in Jurassic Park. Goldblum as the statistician could have crunched the numbers on the subtle shifts in the DNA samples over time and drawn a formula and big rarification curve on the wall and looked really scared. And proved to them it was dangerous with just math. They call the army and Nuke the island and no one dies. . . Except the mutant Dinos.
@peterstangl8295
4 ай бұрын
isn't that exactly what happens in the book though? well, maybe not literally exactly, but he really does do some serious maths in it and they even blow up the island after.
@internetuser8922
4 ай бұрын
@@peterstangl8295 the character in the book relies heavily on Chaos Theory, it's a huge plot point throughout the whole book. not rarefaction curves exactly, but pretty similar stuff from a narrative perspective.
@EarMaster55
4 ай бұрын
That's the movie, that would have crashed 1993s box office…
@hughcaldwell1034
4 ай бұрын
Yes, because business owners, government officials and military personnel (in fiction or otherwise) are well-known for listening to mathematicians telling them uncomfortable truths...
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
4 ай бұрын
@@EarMaster55 But it would be remembered as a misunderstood cult classic among the key filmgoing demographic of math nerds.
Stand-up Moths made me chuckle
Finding a moth and thinking it's new just to be told it's not is a true Parker Moth moment.
The helmet with the camera on top makes Matt look like a Roman in an Asterix comic.
Love it! It's so rare to find stuff on KZread that discusses pollinator biodiversity at this level, especially including some of the actual techniques used in the field - and for such an underrepresented group of pollinators too!
That research center looks incredible. My office is certainly nowhere near as idyllic as that roofed terrace in the pouring rain :)
1:55 "...using mathematics that no human has ever seen" That's what we are here for! 😉
watching this back to back with Ze Frank's moth video gives a surprisingly large amount of context
I upvoted for the pun alone. Mothing else matters.
@777Looper
4 ай бұрын
*mothing more matters
Thank you -moth- Matt
Thanks Matt, helps a moth
The fact this and true facts both had butterfly/moth videos so close together
very cool
XD i'am gone very kindly give that to you and have a little panic over here
algorithm, please this is genuinely incredible
Use a NN to recognise moths in photographs of the white cloth.
KZread: So here's this new vid- Me: "Moths? sounds a bit boring for me." KZread: ... "It's a Matt Parker Video" Me: "Moths?! How fascinating. I'm in!"
Great title
Yaya, Guelph! ... just down the road from me.
Did not expect to see a scorchers hat in the Amazon!
What I find an interesting question is; if you took two moths that the most closely resembled each other out of the gigantic number of moth species that have been discovered, how small would that difference be?
I love the name Stand up moth!
A short time ago, a genetic fluke happened and a moth was born which would have gone on to breed a whole new species of moth. This moth saw a light, went to the light, and was scooped up by a mathematician.
Nice backdrop
Rarefaction analysis is so cool (using it myself in archaeological studies), so happy with this video! Also, was this the first R plot I have seen on this channel? iNext package? I prefer vegan (cool name, cool package)
@HuckleberryHim
4 ай бұрын
Gotta love the name, ironic thing to come up on a video about mass moth slaughter. I think archaeogenetics is fascinating but I won't pretend to know anything about the software exactly. If you study archaeogenetics though, that is insanely cool
This week on Stand Up Moths!
Some of those tiger moth species names are very cool. The "banoffee pie" and "Metallica" tiger moths stand out for being completely off the wall.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
4 ай бұрын
"Klimt's kiss" must be a really funky-looking moth.
At 9:23 you made me think about prime numbers (density and distribution). Hours of rabbit holes later, I'm back to finish the video. I hope you're happy.
what is that moth wall?? is it some special material that moths love? or is it in a spot where there are so many moths, all you need is a flat wall for scooping them into a jar?
@FunkyKiwiVG
4 ай бұрын
The moths are attracted to the light. So they put out a bright light and a white sheet that helps make it very visible. As they also show in the video, one can use pheromones (smell) to attract them. Different species have different preferences.
@BrandyBalloon
4 ай бұрын
I thought moths fly in circles around a light not because they are attracted to it, but because they use the moon to navigate. The artificial light screws up their sense of direction i.e. they think they're flying in a straight line by keeping the light (usually the moon) in the same direction, but if the light is close then they just end up flying in circles. Perhaps the big white sheet confuses them, like a jamming signal, so they stop for a rest.
@BrandyBalloon
4 ай бұрын
Just to add to that... I just realized that if a moth was trying to keep the light at an angle less than 90 degrees away from straight ahead, it would spiral in towards it. Conversely, if it was trying to keep the light at an angle greater than 90 degrees away from straight ahead, it would spiral away from it. So if all the moths were trying to fly a straight line in random directions, half of them would end up getting closer to the light, and the other half further away. Unless of course the light actually was the moon, in which case the distance is so great they'd be flying in a straight line.
I have a feeling Matt Parker is going to fill the Tom Scott Amazing Places void for me
Cool, I remember learning about this for predicting how many new dinosaur species are left to discover
Very very sleepy moths 👻
I still remember the Parker square.
I dunno which I like more, Mothew Parker or Parker Moth, or Stand-Up Moths.
The Parker Moth, not a real moth, but it tries so hard to be one!
❤ ... at least *currently*
This video reminded me of my fieldwork courses at university, doing the same mathematics for species estimates on grassland, also did a year abroad at Guelph where I did a module on entomology
This is nice, but I miss the old Stand-Up Maths who would have actually gone into the mathematics of the rarefaction curves and how that model is derived from the underlying assumptions. Cheerleading things that involve maths is nice, but I much prefer when Matt actually goes into the maths (recreational or academic). Sadly, that's becoming ever rarer... This video didn't include any more maths that it's title. The last one talked about an equation but didn't do anything mathematical with it. Before that there's a few about shapes being used in the architecture or decorations. I think "All Convex Polyhedra" from 6 months ago is the most recent video that actually does some maths, rather than talking about other people who did maths.
Parker doin Mothematics again 😄
I didn't know that moths are pollinators too. I now see them under a new light.(pun intended)
my favourite matt parker quote of all time is now: "Moths. I'm so excited!" matt ur my hero (im also from duncraig)
Earliest I've been to a SuM video, hellllll yeah
all of this for the moth-math pun. truly a parker moment.
Stand-up Moths
Parker Square and now a parker moth !
11:20 Oh look, it's an Hexagon bridge!
I have it on good authority that moths bring realism to anything.
@17:05 Love ya Matt but remember that just because a moth is new to science, doesn't mean it's new to humans.
Matt's taking over Tom Scott's niche in the KZread ecosystem
The mothew parker square moth!
I'm only starting to watch the video but oh my! Is there somewhere in that large forest a square moth?
Wow
With how the video started I almost thought he was taking over from Tom Scott!
Butterflies are just a subgroup of moths ;)
If I wasn't already sapphic I would be after watching Isabella Arabia's part of the video.
Assumption Town, the sister city of Climate Town.
I rewound at 3:47 *hoping* I heard the pun "I'm mothtimistic" but it was not to be 😢
Those subtitles were manual, right?