**RARE** 4 FDNY FIREBOATS Battle MAJOR 3-Alarm NYPD EVIDENCE Warehouse FIRE! (Building Destroyed)
Red Hook Section of Brooklyn
Fire Location: 700 Columbia St
Erie Basin Auto Pound aka NYPD Evidence Control & Impound warehouse
E-279 gave the 10-75
Fire a 1 story warehouse 60 X 800
B-32 Engine & Truck
B-32 All Hands
B-32 s/c 1 additional truck
B-32 s/c 1 additional fast truck
E-279,202,220,219,226s/c
L-131,118,105(Fast),114s/c,101s/c
B-32,48
R-2
Sq-1
D-11
Rac-2
Ma-6,9
MB
B-32 Transmit a 2nd Alarm @ 10:51
2nd Alarm
E-224,226,210
E-207 w/ Sat. 6
L-122(Fast)
B-41(Safety)
B-31(FF)
B-57(RUL)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-2
RM-1
CTU
Ma-1
Car-7 (Brooklyn Borough Command)
B-32 2 L/S/O trying to find the seat of the fire. Delayed due to heavy clutter @10:52
Car-7 Responding to your 2nd Alarm. Transmit a 3rd Alarm @11:10
Car-7 10-84 @11:11
* Staging Beards Between Otsego & Dwight*
3rd Alarm
E-239,205,280,282,7(Comm)
E-250 w/ 2nd Piece
E-9 w/ Sat. 1s/c
L-124 Act. 105,149 Act. 131s/c
L-157 Act. 131(Fast)s/c
L-174 Act. 122(Fast)s/c
B-40(FF)
B-38(Staging)
B-58(Air Recon)
B-43 Act. 48s/c
Rac-1
Mask
Marine Tac
HM-1s/c
HMB-s/c
MCC-2s/c
Car-22C (Director of Fleet Services)
Car-22H (Supervisor of Mechanics)
Car-23D (Press Duty)
Car-24 (Director of Technical Services)
Car-12 (Chief of Safety & Inspectional Services Command)
Car-12B (Safety Liaison)
Car-11A (Chief of Rescue Opps)
Car-11B (Chief of Haz-Mat Opps)
Car-13B (DAC of Fire Prevention)
Car-2C (Deputy Commissioner Public Information)
Car-4F (DAC of Operations)
Car-4(Chief of Operations)
Car-3 (Chief of Department)
FC per Car-7 we have bikes involved s/c Haz-Mat @11:23
FC per Car-7 s/c 1 additional Satellite Unit @ 11:25
FC per Car-7 3 Marine Companies in Opps. Setting up multiversals. DWH @11:42
Mixer Off Message
FC per Car-7 Marine Units are attacking the fire. E-207 has a manifold with a blitz fire. Collapse of the building. Roll call being conducted at command post. DWH @11:55
FC per Car-7 s/c 1 additional truck to the 1-4 corner past the command post @11:57
Car-3 10-84 @ 12:08
FC at Box 3810 L-122 the new fast truck @ 12:49
FCs/c 1 additional truck to relieve L-122 as the Fast Truck @ 12:50
FC per Car-7 s/c Mobile Command 2. We will not need the transport Engine @12:58
FC s/c 1 additional Ladder Company to replace 157 as the Fast Truck. Not a TL @13:10
FC s/c 1 Additional Battalion Chief @13:19
FC at Box 3810 s/c 2 Engine Companies for relief into staging with B-38 @13:34
Relief @13:35
E-230 Act. 202,21 Act. 239
FC at Box 3810 we have (2) 10-45s Code 4s @13:49
FC Mixer Off Message @ 13:53
FC Mixer Off Message @14:20
BK to FC do you have the Codes for the 10-45s @14:22
(FC still has the mixer off)
FC Mixer Off Message @14:23
Relief @14:43
E-206 Act. 207,211,?
L-110,104 Act. 118
Rac-3
FC Mobile Command is set up @14:45
MCC for reference we are operating with the following units:
E-230,205,21,239
E-9 w/ Sat. 1
L-149,157,174(Fast)
B-48,43
Ma-1,6,9
MB
FC per Car-7 PWH @15:12
FC on that PWH s/c 4 Engines,2 Tower Ladders, & 1 Battalion into staging at Hallock & Columbia @15:12
Relief @ 15:20
E-201,281,214,253
L-111,153,166(Fast)s/c
B-42
MCC s/c a Truck to relieve the fast truck @15:26
MCC per D-11 operating with 3 Marine units. Switching out companies. Still have fire through out. Marine companies still hitting pockets of fire. DWH @ 17:21
Relocations:
Engine 276 Act. Engine ??
Engine 6 Act. Engine 202
Engine 161 Act. Engine 247
Engine 318 Act. Engine 250
Engine 286 Act. Engine 280
Engine 21 Act. Engine 239
Engine 242 Act. Engine 239
Engine 206 Act. Engine 207
Engine 247 Act. Engine 219
Engine 230 Act. Engine 202
Ladder 124 Act. Ladder 105
Ladder 174 Act. Ladder 122
Ladder 133 Act. Ladder 174
Ladder 149 Act. Ladder 131
Ladder 157 Act. Ladder 131
Ladder 104 Act. Ladder 118
Battalion 28 Act. Battalion 41
Battalion 51 Act. Battalion 38
Battalion 1 Act. Battalion 31
Battalion 7 Act. Battalion 40
Battalion 43 Act. Battalion 48
Пікірлер: 223
I'm a volly firefighter in PA. A few years ago we had a tour of Rescue Company 2 and FireBoat 343. Just going from memory I think it can pump up to 50,000 g/min. Serious water in any respect. The deck guns are huge. The firefighters giving us the tour were super nice and really took their time with us. You can tell they love their job.
@mrderby0178
Жыл бұрын
From PA myself.. Was just thinking along the same thought of how much water was pumped through those boats over the course of the call.
@DanEvan
Жыл бұрын
That big monitor on the front of each tug has an 8” tip and can put out 17,000gpm alone. Thing is an absolute unit.
@jamesmorin7343
Жыл бұрын
Some chief a while back (probably): "Hey - if we ever get any REALLY big fires in the city, we could just get a big boat and throw the Hudson at it."
Can you imagine the amount of water that was thrown by those 3 boats?? MA1 "Three Forty Three" and MA9 "Fire Fighter II" both capable of 50,000 GPM with all 4 engines running on each ship, then add in little MA6 "Bravest" pumping its heart out at 7,000 GPM. That's a whole lot of "Putting the wet stuff on the red stuff"
@aportman58
Жыл бұрын
20,000 gpm maximum flow...still a massive powerful firefighting water flow kick!!!
The size of those fireboats are huge. They look like they could not only knock the fire down but the building itseld
@martinbeirne7621
Жыл бұрын
They can blast thru brick walls
@liviuvisan
Жыл бұрын
I think they did!
A lot of what was kept at that facility is what's commonly referred to as "DOA Barrels" items recovered from crime scenes that contained items that were covered in biological matter, bed spreads covered with blood, clothes ect.... some of them could be 30 years old or or more.
@vicvic2081
Жыл бұрын
Does this mean some crimes will go unpunished because of lack of evidence
@joshw1687
Жыл бұрын
@vic vic it's NYC the people that run the city let criminals walk already
@johnlebzelter4208
Жыл бұрын
Oh so you were there?
@joeysanchez2023
Жыл бұрын
yea, yea... whatevah yous says buddy.
@johnlebzelter4208
Жыл бұрын
@@joshw1687 show the proof. We will wait…
Considering what was in the warehouse, it's got arson stink all over it.
@efdrsq107
Жыл бұрын
Gee, ya think?? Rule Number XX, don't believe in coincidences
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
hope this is above internal affairs and someone in the state is involved in investigating not the NYPD themselves 🙄
@Commissar0617
Жыл бұрын
@@bostonrailfan2427 NYPD probably has better resources lol
@bountyduckets5373
Жыл бұрын
Where’s your evidence?!?! Up in smoke lol
@famouschris1
Жыл бұрын
@@bostonrailfan2427 you can see in the video ATF is there
That’s A LOT OF WATER GOING INTO THAT BUILDING. GREAT WORK BY THE Marine Division!
At 7:54 NYPD is saying "hey we spray water too" !
@xm15ar
Жыл бұрын
That NYPD boat, by comparison, does look a bit silly doesn't it, but hey, it does have a monitor and it is quite useful in every other respect. This is probably the best-equipped two municipal departments on the planet.
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
laugh it up but they might be doing an important environmental thing there…who knows what’s in the water coming from the building
@aportman58
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was actually wondering why NYPD has to have a marine firefighting division???
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
They don’t actually have a separate division for firefighting, but many are equipped with small monitors to help with fire operations if necessary. It’s the same idea for the coast guard and tug boats that are capable of firefighting. Just there to help if needed. In this instance they actually operated for awhile until all of the FDNY boats arrived.
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
@@FDNYResponseVideos wait, so all of the assumptions about them being there for no good reason were wrong?
"Hey captain, you are knocking the building over!" Awesome power.
hell yes is a rare 3 fdny fireboats on the major 3 alare fire great job on the video
OMG The power of the FDNY fire boats is awesome. Great video to catch them in action.
@edyr
Жыл бұрын
there should be 30 boats 20 helicopters this is very, very bad
@louisbrunn7270
Жыл бұрын
You can stop with the omg's fire above let's knock it off it's only a fire thing okay please stop it girls say that not guys
@bloodravensterminator8594
Жыл бұрын
@@edyr what
@edyr
Жыл бұрын
@@bloodravensterminator8594 there is crises going on I hope the people who lit the NYPD evidence room is caught and sentenced
The Boats are working hard
@acgillespie
Жыл бұрын
It's a Special Occasion
@edyr
Жыл бұрын
this is a global contagi on domestic spiritual terrorism
Cool seeing the Marine units in action.
This job was a homerun for the Marine units.
This such an oddly calm video. Loved seeing the “FDNY Robotics” jackets.
Fire boats throw tons (literally) of water a minute. The port of Los Angeles main fireboat has EIGHT monitors, 4 capable of putting out 70,000 GPM at full power, and 4 that put out 22k GPM. And that’s just 1 boat. NYFD’s boats are slightly smaller, but no less impressive.
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not the FDNY fireboats are actually larger than LAFD’s fireboat #2. Fire boat 2 has a length of 102 feet with 10 Unitor/Skum Fi-Fi Systems @ 38,000 GPM total. While the two FDNY ships (343 & firefighter II) are both 140 feet long. Both fireboats have four different size monitors-one 17,000-gpm, six 5,000-gpm, four 2,000-gpm, and one 1,000-gpm monitor mounted at the basket on the tip of a 50-foot crane. Each fireboat has six monitors capable of delivering a foam product. When stationary the boats have a total capacity of pumping 50,000 GPM That being said - the FDNY went to LA & Seattle to study their fireboats which brought them to the decision to use a Robert Allan-designed fireboat.
Love these boats. Basically floating fire stations.
Would be a great job to be assigned on one of these beast fire boats! When a fire sees all 3 of these bad boys coming it just surrenders!!!
Evidence huh? Sounds like someone didn't want something to end up in court.That's some Big Picture thinking.
I thought 343 was FDNY’s largest fire boat.. it looks like there is 2 of them now. When did this happen? How many large beautiful vessels this size do they have now??
@MR1977.
Жыл бұрын
That’s the 343 and her sister ship the firefighter 2. Those are the biggest in the fleet.
Good video; Very impressed by FDNY. Working on a fire boat would be the ultimate career !
@larrymoore326
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly !
Nice pictures of all the different equipment and vehicles.
That is the largest fire hydrant lol. But seriously, I don't believe it was the ebike batteries. Knowing the dangers of the batteries and the sensitive nature of the items inside they should've had taken the batteries out before storing the bikes. That's just common sense. Even junkyards store electric vehicles away from the rest of their inventory.
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
it’s complete bullshit but it’s what NYPD are going to,claim before they’re forced to admit arson
@williamradicioni3498
Жыл бұрын
😊
Excellent on Scene Footage and Coverage!👍
Nice seeing the fire boats in action this was a interesting job being it the evidence lockup
How interesting. An NYPD evidence warehouse. I would say that is a coincidence but rule #5 is that there are no coincidences.
The evidence warehouse? Bet it was arson. Either way a lot of jailbirds are gonna walk for lack of evidence
@joshw1687
Жыл бұрын
They already walk because nyc leaders love criminals
@bennetts-revenge_2
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't doubt it
This is at the NYPD storage and impound year, only way to put out the fire it was deemed unsafe for anyone to go in and try to knock down the flames because there is only one way in, but still got to love the FDNY
my gosh, that FDNY marine boat is cool!
Good job! I had to giggle when I saw the slice of cheese in the helmet of the one firefighter ( 0:57 ) :D
Anthony Weiners laptop?
That’s very rare and probably the biggest job I’ve ever seen
Is this the Evidence warehouse?
@ph11p3540
Жыл бұрын
Was the former evidence warehouse.
That's a very interesting, NYPD's evidence warehouse? Hmmmm
Awesome video! Great catch of the boats, plus the FDNY Robotics team.
Little boat feel left out ?
Nice catch that's awesome . Was the N.Y.P.D boat bringing donuts and coffee for the fire boats ...lol
Great video footage . Rare to see marine division out in such force thankyou. Just hope you didnt get your feet wet in the runoff.
These boats where built at Eastern Ship building in Panama City Florida.
That's insane to me that NYC is so big that their fire department just has 4 massive boats lying around, plus more I bet.
@sandman0127
Жыл бұрын
It's a major port city they have 5 and numerous smaller boats
@Kishanth.J
Жыл бұрын
Why are the fire boats FDNY? I though they would be owned by the ports, like they are in Vancouver and Halifax. Doesn’t New York have a port authority with emergency services?
@Studio23Media
Жыл бұрын
Look in the description at all the different resources that were called to this fire. It's incredible how large they are
@bloodravensterminator8594
Жыл бұрын
@@Kishanth.J NJ and NY has port authority but their more a police force. They do do ARFF in the airport’s though
@Kishanth.J
Жыл бұрын
@@bloodravensterminator8594 wait, why do they have a police force? I thought border and custom control was border patrol role? Why do the port need a dedicated police service.
Fantastic videos of marine division operating! Please tell me why does NYPD have firefighting (marine) capability???
@Sucknutz_
Жыл бұрын
Harbor law enforcement, Criminal activity on water, ensuring boating safety, emergency’s like sinking boats or planes down in the water, any medical scene like drowning. Basically any kind of incident. Plus on 9/11 boats proved to be very useful in transporting people away from the scene to safety.
@karlkrikelis5933
Жыл бұрын
Police boats are on patrol 24/7 always on the water. FDNY has small boats on on the water through out the day but the big boats are docked untill needed. Having a duel perpus boat out there allows more coverage. ALL NYPD boats have firefighting capabilities and assist FDNY when needed. There is over 500 miles of water front in nyc. The NYPD also has jurisdiction north of the GWB. And have even been requested by other states for assistance.
@tokyochannel2020
Жыл бұрын
The NYPD also does any things traditionally done by fire departments in other cities. Eg it's ESU (Emergency Services Unit) also does rescue work.
PD boat reminds me of a baby elephant trying to act like the grown ups. Hang in there kid maybe some day you’ll grow up to be a fire boat.
Great video Bro hardly ever do we see fire boats really enjoyed it thanks for sharing ✌️
Somebody had hot evidence
Wish you had filmed the moment they leave think it’s a unique view
@NYPD has made a video on there channel with the chief of department of FDNY and NYPD executives
bring back the john harvey! it was an awesome boat.
Thank you NYFD, Merry Christmas. Cape Cod Mass. Dialed in
What's the GPM pumping capabilities of the fire boat?
@maquettemusic1623
Жыл бұрын
lots
Evidence warehouse, huh? Hmm...interesting.
Well I hope they can rebuild the place and make it fire proof so this doesn't happen again.
@mr.polemikus4933
Жыл бұрын
They should have thought about how unprotected & vulnerable their warehouses are a while ago,...
Excellent video
Those fire boats look cool and very expensive ! May be some should show some stats or a vid on them . I would like to see that. Thank you My grandparents lived at Alax bay up north and there boats were small but cool.
Probably E bike and scooter batteries, There must be a Lott of those in there.
@nonyafkinbznes1420
Жыл бұрын
This technology sounds very promising. I can't wait until the government forces everyone to adopt it!
Think it was accidental ?
This just became a criminals best day
I wonder if there were any lithium battery powered stuff to blame
FDNY Robotics! Let’s see a video about them.
Truly rare great content. 👍🏻
Making way for new condos?
i wonder who set this fire and to cover what up.
It wreaks of arson. I can smell it's stench. Any nearby property owners affected by this fire, their fire insurance policy is null and void.
Great video
HEY!! Nothing to see here folks!
Great video are u a FDNY firefighter
Somebody very high up must have had a trial coming up, and needed a get out of jail free card.
Boats don't even know what they're hitting, they're just spraying blindly
@Sucknutz_
Жыл бұрын
Don’t need to see the fire when your putting 50,000 GPM into the building.
@speedball10169
Жыл бұрын
@Negatovetheory You kind of do. What's the point in putting 50,000 gpm into the building when you're not even hitting the fire? That's like saying the tower ladders needn't set up, they can just flow water while still in the cradle.
@jpmac372
Жыл бұрын
fire boat uses thermal imaging through camera on boat and drone feed with thermal video. they know where to hit
@speedball10169
Жыл бұрын
I doubt that but ok.
@Sucknutz_
Жыл бұрын
You think the tower ladders aren’t doing the same thing 😂, many videos of them doing the same thing these boats are doing. This was 3 hours into the fire, all the fire was knocked and they’re just drowning the building. Drones are used with IR to direct streams towards hotspots, that’s what the “FDNY Robotics” are there for.
is the fire boat hooked up to a plug or is it using seawater?
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
The boats draft from the harbor
@CPR12345
Жыл бұрын
Yikes. 😬 I can’t believe that this question was even asked. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto
Жыл бұрын
...What?
@tjlovesrachel
Жыл бұрын
They are on tank water
@eliasthienpont6330
Жыл бұрын
@@tjlovesrachel Yeah. The Atlantic tank!
VERY RARE CATCH
What percent of this storage facility was FDNY able to save from the fire with the all apparatus and manpower they had on scene?
The water tanks used to fight fire must weigh the ship down. Wonder how long they last before going back to port to refill the tanks. I asked my 5 year old sister that question and she was like, oh that's gotta suck, they move pretty slow to lots of time lost in refilling the tanks, maybe they could run a rose to the ships or bring out a tanker to pump water into the firefighting water tanks. She said it with a straight face. Then silence, followed by, why don't they just pump it out of the water they are floating in....
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
Your 5 year old sister is correct! They just use the water they are floating on! The entire sea is their tank!
this channel needs to get a drone lol
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
That’s a good idea, but unfortunately drones are illegal to fly in NYC. Additionally since it’s an emergency scene flying a personal drone would force the FD to ground their drones.
@larrymoore326
Жыл бұрын
Drone footage would be spectacular !
Why does it take forever to get going on every fire I’ve watched. There should be a plan and everyone has an assignment already.
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
This was 3 hours into the incident. The building was gone and it was a surround and drown operation. Most of the units had already left. What is taking too long for you? There’s absolutely no need to rush in that stage of the operation, especially with 3 fireboats dumping 30,000+ gallons of water per minute on the building.
hunter bidens laptop was in the warehouse
@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto
Жыл бұрын
Nothing relevant then. got it.
@redauwg911
Жыл бұрын
@@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto 🤡🤡🤡
@strnglhld
Жыл бұрын
Wow I’m definitely not voting for him now 😂
@MR1977.
Жыл бұрын
Aside from evidence of the leader of the free world being involved with shady oversees business ventures possibly involving the laundering of taxpayer money into his families accounts? Yeah I guess there was just crack smoking with prostitutes nothing to see there.
Liked and shared
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@NeilM01989
Жыл бұрын
@@FDNYResponseVideos No problem 🧑🏻👍🏻
GTA type shit
Nothing to see here lol
Nice
What was the NYPD boat doing?
@TheUnknownDutchman
Жыл бұрын
Floating
@josephbennett3482
Жыл бұрын
@@TheUnknownDutchman hahahaha such a savage 🤣 😂
@Summerguy24
Жыл бұрын
LOL looked like it had its back turned after being told it couldn't play with the big kids .
@martinbeirne7621
Жыл бұрын
Watering the harbor
@sweepered
Жыл бұрын
making shuer piggy wiggley has power over the watter as wellin case the fire boat dosent parkthe wrong way so they can arrest the boat in boat jail go to fuck nypd
Epstein's visit list, reduced to ashes.
*What a shame - I can only Imagine what might of been destroyed here - I'm sure we'll be hearing later down the road with those breaking News reports & Investigations - Joe say's great work fellers*
@josephbennett3482
Жыл бұрын
It was NYPD evidence storage.
Matatan ™®™ Ribirin HS, Stay safe fellas,
I hope Hunter BIDENS lap top wasn’t in there
Boy , you got to hate that old JEWISH LIGHTNING , it strikes everywhere . lots of confiscated cars and vehicles IN general said to be lost . Fire boats getting there yearly Warf workout !
@boataxe4605
Жыл бұрын
This smells more like Italian lightning.
@kimrichards5576
Жыл бұрын
@@boataxe4605 as in Mafia Italian?
@a.e.4156
Жыл бұрын
Wth
Just think if there had been more equity and diversity on the fire crews. More women and trans-men. That fire would have been out in 5 minutes.
What ever wasn't destroyed by the fire, was destroyed by all that excessive water.
@CPR12345
Ай бұрын
Excessive? In your infinite wisdom, how much water should they have used? 🤡
A whole lotta firemen standing around doing nothing. They look like the Uvalde police department.
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
And you sound uninformed - also how do you think it’s ok to compare surround and drown fire ops to a police department that failed to go in and save children from a mass shooter? Come on dude, be better.
@karlkrikelis5933
Жыл бұрын
Guess you've never done firefighting. Firefighters are standing around because they have other functions some are relief crews some are FAST teams. You fight a fire in 50+ pounds of gear breathing out of a bottle. You need alil rehab b4 you continue the fight. That's what the rotate crews.
Not to tell these people how to do their jobs but you don't pump salt water on a fire with nothing/a lot of electronics in it
@MR1977.
Жыл бұрын
So electronics and fresh water go better together? Ok got it. 🤦🏼♂️
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
what would they know, it’s not like fireboats have been used in this way for 150 years…oh, right: they have 🙄
@Sucknutz_
Жыл бұрын
This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
@MR1977.
Жыл бұрын
@@Sucknutz_ there’s several candidates for that prize in this comment section.
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
@@MR1977. so sorry if bashing the police isn’t the default for everyone here…
Those are some bad ass boats right there.
Cute, did you see the police boat pretending that he was also putting out a fire?
Lots of standing around
@FDNYResponseVideos
Жыл бұрын
What do you want them to do? Run into the collapsed building while multiple fireboats dump 6,000 gallons per minute each on the building?
@jpmac372
Жыл бұрын
30000 gallons per minute per Boat= 2 million gallons every 30 minutes
@wbuttry1
Жыл бұрын
@@FDNYResponseVideos Nope but if the members are not doing anything any truck not in operation needs to return to quarters and ready themselves for the next fire like cleaning hoses hanging them up refurbishing the apparatus Drying turnout gear I always hated working a fire with wet gear from a previous fire. Clean and dry makes a firefighter feel like working in 10 degree weather. Wich is on yeahs way to you by Friday. But those boats crews can live on them days at a time if not weeks as long as they are stocked food water they always have bathrooms even that tan tug has a very small bathroom. Worked on Illinois fire service for yrs.
@bostonrailfan2427
Жыл бұрын
must never have seen a fire before, it’s classic “surround and drown” since it’s too dangerous to enter or it’s too big for handlines. the best access is from the water using the fireboat monitors
@Polarbear5353
Жыл бұрын
Yeah NYFD is bloated. You’ll see that on most calls. NJ as well.