The R n R hall of fame is like the Oscars, No credibility at all

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

And Grammies as well.

@nool1236

4 жыл бұрын

You were right. Entertainment Tonight focused on Whitney Houston and Notorious B.I.G. and rounded the segment off with the remaining inductees.

@joepermenter7228

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, The Oscars are at least credible in the art. The music scene has been proven to be horseshit for more than three decades. Just ask your hero here who denies Green Day, Nirvana, and GNR's existence.

@brenobutcher

4 жыл бұрын

I think it' MUCH worse than the Oscar.

@merckx155

4 жыл бұрын

@@nool1236 the only reasons those two were selected were political correctness and TV Ratings

The fact that Iron Maiden has not even been nominated tells me all I need to know. Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, should be no-brainers.

@timothyorie7021

4 жыл бұрын

You nailed it!!!

@Pwrcritter

4 жыл бұрын

Stormy wins the day..

@martymartin2894

4 жыл бұрын

True all legendary rock/metal bands.

@jamie49868

4 жыл бұрын

Are you saying you want actual bands that played Rock & Roll in there? Good Lord man, next thing you'll be saying is soccer players shouldn't be inducted into the Baseball HOF.

@danielmankowski922

4 жыл бұрын

In addition to the great hard rock metal acts mentioned, also would add: Scorpions, Accept, and Yngwie J. Malmsteen.

If Whitney Houston is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Frank Sinatra should have been inducted.

@Demigodking

4 жыл бұрын

Scott McGregor seems fair

@brenobutcher

4 жыл бұрын

Why not Mozart, Bach, Beethoven?

@peace__777

4 жыл бұрын

So much of their bogus "hall of fame" has gone political. What a damn joke!

@peace__777

4 жыл бұрын

They can take their Shitney POOston's and Notorious P.I.G.'s and stick 'em where the sun don't shine

@mikeyjohn9903

4 жыл бұрын

@@peace__777 not racist by any chance

The fact that Priest has been bypassed yet again has now confirmed my distaste for the Hall. I will never pay attention to this farse ever again. We need an inductee who is Rock or Metal accept the award then say on mic " Hey at least we are rock n roll".

@tommorris5069

4 жыл бұрын

Priest being ignored again this year is a mortal sin!

@danielmankowski922

4 жыл бұрын

If you are a Priest fan, read Ritchie Faulkner's rant on the RRHOF. Not only a phenomenal guitarist, but summed up our feelings perfectly!

@bertrobinson6164

4 жыл бұрын

I agree totally this is bullshit big and Whitney what a JOKE!!!

@scottlosey4978

4 жыл бұрын

If NIN gets in so the hell should Ministry.....if it wasn't for Ministry, there would be no NIN

Whenever a Rap and Hip-Hop Hall of Fame is created, I want to see if they'll nominate AC/DC, Judas Priest, and Led Zeppelin and induct them. Anybody see the point I'm trying to make?

@troycleek3985

4 жыл бұрын

They'll never be able to afford it. They spend all their money on shoes and white women

@willwalker1586

4 жыл бұрын

@@troycleek3985 im black and i thought that was true and funny.Rock has been sampled by so many rap artists they should be in a hip hop hall of fame

@merckx155

4 жыл бұрын

are you drunk?? they'd never do it

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

@@merckx155 Of course they'll never do that. I was trying to make a point while being sarcastic.

@rinehardt6837

4 жыл бұрын

So now it's going to be a racial thing. Who am I kidding it's always a racial thing

Todd Rundgren is one of the most influential artists and producers of the last half century. Denied twice now.

@jamesgingrich3837

4 жыл бұрын

It's a crime

@dagnabbit6187

4 жыл бұрын

@Brad D I liked some of Todd’s music & I did vote for him but I think he should go in as a Producer which he was better at and then they could display his recordings along with his Production credentials . Yes we all know Hall is lacking but it seems they have tidied up a little bit in past five years . People are sick of the expanded definition of Rap as rock but I was getting tired of that mentality of a 30s Gospel Singer farts into a Grammaphone and it is scene as an “ early influence “ With the exception of Dick Dale I do think they have gotten most of the 60s movers and shakers in there .

@stevegirardmedia2255

4 жыл бұрын

Dag Nabbit please... Todd was prolific, a great songwriter, great purveyor of Philly blue-eyed soul, great singer, several hits, great guitar player, trend-setter... as well as producing incredible albums for others. He’s overqualified.

@dagnabbit6187

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Girard Media I can tell by your comment that you don’t want to work & just want to sit at home & bang on the computer keyboard all day . ------- well maybe your smart phone all day ! Okay point well taken . I was just thinking of another way to get him in there .

@stevegirard-voiceaudiopodcasts

4 жыл бұрын

@@dagnabbit6187 No worries... cuz you're very correct... his production credits are great. I just feel that he's a way better musician and musical influence than he was a producer.

T Rex was HUGELY influential in Britain during the 70s They launched the Glam movement

@dagnabbit6187

4 жыл бұрын

@ comikdebris I am a Yank and TREX was ahead of their time for the USA. Still Marc Bolan & Co.'s music was awesome. One of my favorite albums of all time is their self titled one with Ride A White Swan and One Inch Rock.

@fromtheend4253

4 жыл бұрын

......👉 😀👍 👈......

@Pwrcritter

4 жыл бұрын

If anyone is on the fence, listen to jeepster and go from there..

@steverogers2635

4 жыл бұрын

T Rex is NOT a sympathy vote as Pete said. I thought that was a rather snobbish remark. Marc Bolan was a rock and pop legend and should have made the HOF long ago.

@Pwrcritter

4 жыл бұрын

@@steverogers2635 Who's remark are u referring to?

Depeche Mode: Black Celebration Music For The Masses Violator Song Of Faith and Devotion I will argue with anyone (and you don't have to like DM at all) that this string of albums from 86-93 is as good as any band (don't care about genres) has ever produced. You may hate them (or just be indifferent) but that period of their evolution is jaw dropping. All those albums sound different if you have an ear for music. They influenced everyone in that style from Muse to NIN. No one wrote synth pop music like Martin Gore. Now you may love Kraftwerk and yes they are legendary but they were more (to me) a concept than an actual band that would tour and be exciting to see. DM rocks!

@TonysMusic1974

4 жыл бұрын

@Shane Peterson The "Rock" part of the name is irrelevant. Meaningless. Still, deserving bands should get in - and too many have been snubbed. At least Depeche rightfully got in.

@musiclove4635

4 жыл бұрын

I'd add Some Great Reward to that list.

@navyryder

4 жыл бұрын

Depeche Mode should had been inducted a long time ago!!! But better late that never! It be cool to if they get Alan Wilder to play in when they do their RnR Hall of Fame performance.

@rael2099

4 жыл бұрын

The lack of Ultra in that list is preposterous.

@zedzoom5479

4 жыл бұрын

would you include Vince Clark as founding member? like Metallica had bassists Robert Trujillo and Jason Newsted at the ceremony? Speak and Spell was released in my puberty, i was hooked, i saw them in the Metropol in my hometown Berlin (where they produced their 2nd or 3rd album, or both) in an audience of 200 people. It formed my tastes, it brought Human League, Heaven 17 and on a different crossing Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen and Gary Numan with it. But then i lost track, apart from the odd song now on the radio i didn´t feel they mattered anymore (to me), music for the masses. And i don´t want to sound elitist, i enjoy a nice stadium concert, especially if Bruce sings, Steve is on guitar and Nicko drums and some Eddie guy floating about. But Mode is not made for that imo. Deservant of an entry in Hall of Fame? although i liked the pure electronic days of them and seperated when they discovered acoustic instruments (more rock´n´rolly) - yes, Johnny Cash picked up on them, how could i disagree ;)

The R n R hall of fame should be rename "The Music Industry Hall of Fame"

@SixxQueen91

4 жыл бұрын

They should have another award show like that. Rap stars are the least that should be in there because they don’t even write their own music. They steal it from other artists such as rock music.

@torridcharcrop

4 жыл бұрын

There should be.a rap, pop & maybe a country hall of fame

@JohnSmith-kz8yo

4 жыл бұрын

The Rolling Stone Magazine Music Hall of Fame

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

@@SixxQueen91 Put down the mic and actually play a fricken instrument!

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-kz8yo R.S. is as sold out as it gets.

I voted for Thin Lizzy, Motörhead, MC5, Todd Rundgren, and Kraftwerk. None of whom were inducted..

@hanksta34

4 жыл бұрын

I only voted Thin Lizzy because I wanted them over all of them.

@preving

4 жыл бұрын

I voted Motorhead

@merckx155

4 жыл бұрын

voted for MC5, Todd, NIN, Doobies, I thought one of the requirements was how influential you were, MC5 surely fit this more than the majority of the inductees this year

@laustcawz2089

4 жыл бұрын

@@merckx155 Yet they were dead last in the fan vote. Wonder if they did any better on the other ballots.

@laustcawz2089

4 жыл бұрын

I voted almost exactly the same, except I voted for Pat Benatar & alternated between Priest, Lizzy & Motorhead.

Leave out Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, and Judas Priest for Whitney Houston and a rap artist

@bramleydragon

4 жыл бұрын

You mean a (c)rap artist?

@philouze1815

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Rundgren!

@rushkicksass

4 жыл бұрын

Such a fucking joke. Those bands should’ve been in years ago! Why do they even call it “Rock n Roll Hall of Fame”

@docdeens4030

4 жыл бұрын

It's a politically correct move. They think they have to put more black and female artists in, whether or not they have anything to do with rock n roll. We live in an age of dishonesty and lip service.

@onedollarbleach6891

4 жыл бұрын

Doc Deens Whitney isn’t just there for diversity. She isn’t rock but she’s definitely talented

I stopped caring about the RRHOF after RUSH was finally inducted after being snubbed for so long. It was also the last time I watched the ceremony. RIP Neil Peart.

@guibox3

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. R.E.M, U2, Beastie Boys, Guns N Roses, Madonna, John Mellencamp...good artists but they should NEVER have been inducted before Rush and KISS. Never mind Run-DMC for fuck's sake!!

@saviorself1164

4 жыл бұрын

@@guibox3 I totally agree with what you said about Rush but, Kiss is dogshit. Every one of those artists you named should have been in before Kiss. Kiss sold more toys than albums. They knew how to market themselves but their music SUCKS. Kiss is The Monkeys in facepaint

Amen brother I voted every day and had fun doing it. I thought I was being part of this cool thing. Disappointment this morning. No Priest are you kidding me. Let alone no Pat Benatar. She may be the most deserving. I'll tell you this much I won't play Their game next year

A joke of the highest degree. I’m pissed at myself for even caring.

@davorbrijacak

4 жыл бұрын

I generally don't care but this year had great nominees.

@superslayerguy

4 жыл бұрын

I stopped caring about rrhof back in 8th grade

@briann7495

4 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@highwaystar7145

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I'm not going to vote from next year onwards. It's just bloody useless.

@briann7495

4 жыл бұрын

@@highwaystar7145 ...especially when a large percentage of the nominees are garbage

I'm afraid UFO and Michael Schenker will never get noticed.

@markkavanagh7377

4 жыл бұрын

Michael who?

@DavidLionGuitar

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, same goes for Thin Lizzy

@ffsf739

4 жыл бұрын

Maiden and Judas aren't there! Thin Lizzy and UFO have zero chance...

@scottuforox7654

4 жыл бұрын

UFO has a great body of work. . But we all know the Hall is a total waste of space. No Priest No Lizzy, No Kansas. . Blah

@SPak-rt2gb

4 жыл бұрын

I think those people are making a joke of his last name it my mean something else if you know what I mean.

I'm a metalhead. But, Depeche Mode is my all time favorite band and I'm glad they're in the HOF. Even though RNRHOF is a little silly now.

@davisanaiz6742

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of metal bands site them as an influence.

I actually thought Judas Priest had a shot this year.Influential to a whole genre of music,sold tens of millions,maybe closer to 70 million worldwide .Still around and going strong. Much the same could be said about Pat Benatar. Like someone else said in a comment, I'm pissed at myself for caring about the voting for the so called RRHOF.

@christopherharris3229

4 жыл бұрын

Pat Benetar, arguably the greatest female rock singer ever, doesn't get in yet Whitney Houston is going in........smh

@dougcarson5202

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. The nominee list this year looked like one I could finally care about. I voted practically every day, primarily for Priest, Pat Benatar, Doobies, but also Thin Lizzy and Todd Rundgren or Motorhead. Happy for the Doobies for sure, but the fact that Priest and Pat Benatar in particular didn't get in is a snub that sinks to the level of disgusting.

@ghastlybat107

4 жыл бұрын

Imo Trouble should be in the HOF. Along with Maiden, Mercyful Fate, Slayer, Celtic Frost, Venom, Bathory & Megadeth. The bands who started out in the early 80's that were the ones to shape Heavy Metal & widen the gates for future generations!!!!!!!!

@brucefranklin6295

4 жыл бұрын

@@ghastlybat107 Nice of you to say about Trouble, although we both know there is no chance for that. Maiden,Slayer and Megadeth may have a chance, but not for a lot of years.The way things have been going, maybe no chance.

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

@@christopherharris3229 Benatar would be in if she overdosed in the bathtub too(poor thing)..

Those clowns wouldn't even know who John McLaughlin is !

@jamesgingrich3837

4 жыл бұрын

He is only one of the best guitarist who ever lived!

@regaltip8A

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgingrich3837 McLaughlin and Holdsworth.........and then everybody else.

@craigblack7076

4 жыл бұрын

I am not a clown so tell me who John McLaughlin is and I will look into him.

@TheHumbuckerboy

4 жыл бұрын

@Craig Black ... Jeff Beck considers McLaughlin to be " the best in the business". Check out The Mahavishnu Orchestra for classic John McLaughlin ( 'The Meeting of The Spirits' and 'Lila's Dance' etc) .

@sieteocho

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they do. I'm sure that when they inducted Miles Davis, they took into account that he made Bitches Brew.

No way rap should be in the rock n roll shame 😡😡

@robertwilliams4682

4 жыл бұрын

It's like desecrating a church

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

The ghetto won.

@goodtastechad3233

4 жыл бұрын

@Anant Raman make your own award then you stupid crap fan. ROCK AND ROLL IS FOR ROCK not Pop or Rap dorks.

@awoman7236

4 жыл бұрын

Liver Bird ironically, you sound like a dork

@goodtastechad3233

4 жыл бұрын

@Perfect Stranger why am I a joke when I'm stating the obvious. Yes this whole award is a joke inducting dork like Madonna or NWA, Snoop Dogg. See that's my point, MAKE YOUR OWN MUSIC HALL OF FAME. At point this award should be call music Hall of Fame cuz they a joke.

Great talk, and I am especially glad that you brought up Thin Lizzy. That band is fundamental knowledge for anyone who wants to play in a band.

Well said Pete, an absolute joke. I wrote this about it: Whitney Houston and The Notorious B.I.G make it into the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame; over Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy and Motörhead I have no words 🤣 I'll always remember Whitney's huge contribution to rock and roll, much more than Thin Lizzy's vintage dual-guitar sound, the invention of speed metal with Motörhead, and the excellent string of albums from 1976-1980 from Judas Priest. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame my backside 😳

@hanksta34

4 жыл бұрын

I'm going to borrow your quote.

@tobyjonesmusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@hanksta34 Feel free ;)

The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame, is the most pointless pile of crap ever....As Pete Said Whitney and B.I.G are not Rock and Roll. To Overlook Judas Priest, Motorhead and Thin Lizzy. proves how meaningless this thing is. I have Already said Previously that in England we don't even pay any attention to it. 14.35 of Honesty from Pete ..Totally in full Agreement with Him on This.

Pete, I couldn't agree with you more. The Rock n roll Hall of Fame is a complete joke!

For the record: Miles Davis was inducted in 2006 and a number of Blues artists including Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Ledbelly, and Willie Dixon have been inducted.

@dorwinblack5934

4 жыл бұрын

Also country music legends Hank Williams, Jimmy Rogers, and Bill Monroe (as well as a few others) have all been inducted.

Whitney Houston belongs in the same hall that houses Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand, not the RnRHOF. Todd Rundgren, The Guess Who, Thin Lizzy, J.Geils Band, Priest, UFO, Robin Trower, Blue Oyster Cult, Badfinger, Jethro Tull, Motorhead, King Crimson, Ten Years After, Savoy Brown, Free, Bad Company, etc. should all be in already. The Hall has become like the the Grammys. They celebrate shit.

@dagnabbit6187

4 жыл бұрын

@Robert Saul Well there are people in there that deserve to be in there. Marc Bolan of Trex IMHO was the most talented Nominee and I am glad Trex will be in there but you are right. The best quote I read about the Hall was from a You Tuber " The RocknRoll Hall of Fame was a good thing when it started but the suits got a hold of it and strangled it in its crib . " . more like the 30 plus adult who kidnaps the 7 year old and enforces his will on the youngster . It is known that meglomaniac Jann Wenner and hack writer Dave Marsh were 2 of the biggest assholes on that board but now I wonder if there is a dark web thing behind this. I actually fault the nominating process over the inclusion process. That is the bigger bete noir.

@robertsaul234

4 жыл бұрын

@@dagnabbit6187 Agree about TRex. Should have been in years ago.

I'm in the UK, 57 years old, Depeche Mode are not Rock 'n' Roll, Whitney Houston no and rap is just beyond a joke.

@dt6949

4 жыл бұрын

simgorm Absolutely! Depeche Mode are just a 2nd rate pop group and nothing to do with rock whatsoever. Same goes for Whitney. This is just a music hall of fame. I think the best thing true rockers can do is totally disregard it and leave it to the pop groups and rappers.

@ladydominion8632

4 жыл бұрын

D T you have no idea what Depeche Mode. They are probably the singlehandedly most influential band when it comes to synth music, and if you forget their albums Songs of Faith and Devotion and Ultra, then you forget the their influence on rock. Depeche Mode deserved to be in the Rock and Role Hall of Fame years ago, I can understand other artists like Whitney Houston and b.i.g but Depeche Mode deserves to be inducted.

@runawayuniverse

4 жыл бұрын

@@dt6949 lol @ Depeche Mode being second rate. You really have no idea what you're talking about. And stop being hung up on the name "Rock n Roll". It's a MUSIC Hall of Fame.

@jlcmsw

4 жыл бұрын

DT, look up and watch a Depeche Mode concert. They are in their 50’s and they still put on an incredible rock show. Their song writing is amazing and their songs take you on an emotional journey. They still put out great music and sell out concerts world wide. On they last tour, they sold out the Hollywood Bowl for four nights. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think they are the first musical act to sell out the Bowl that many times.

@dt6949

4 жыл бұрын

runawayuniverse Couldn’t give a s**t what you think. You are completely wrong if you are trying to suggest they are a rock band! Your views require no further comment from me. And if you had taken the time to read my comment you’d see that a music hall of fame is exactly what I called it!

Until Todd Rundgren's in there, it's just a joke to me.

@jamesgingrich3837

4 жыл бұрын

I can't believe he isn't in!

@williambaxter4628

4 жыл бұрын

lonegroover for me it's NRBQ!

@AlwaysIrishINC

4 жыл бұрын

lonegroover if he gets in his induction speech should just be , "hello it's me" then walk off

@jsmith54565

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlwaysIrishINC Bahahaha that didn't half make me laugh, exactly though!

@samanthab1923

4 жыл бұрын

lonegroover Can't believe it. That's a disgrace. For his producing alone. Todd is god.

Agree with all your comments, Pete. Personally, I've gotten tired of caring about this. At the very least, this institution has made the term "rock 'n' roll" virtually meaningless.

@lindsaym6607

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Seim I think people are missing the origin of how the rock and roll hall of fame came to be. It’s purpose is to recognize ones who contributed to the influence and significance to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The first induction in 1986 mainly consisted of r&b singers. That style of music helped to shape and develop rock and roll. Whitney may not be the traditional “rock and roll” artist but she was an r&b singer and it helped shape rock and roll. As far as biggie smalls and rap he definitely lived that rock and roll lifestyle. His music had heavy influence.

*H of F: Where's The BLUES??* Robert Johnson Willie Dixon (Led Zeppelin) Buddy Guy (Gary Moore) *H of F: Where's Reggae??* Bob Marley (Eric Clapton) Peter Tosh Third World (Stevie Wonder)

@robertsaul234

4 жыл бұрын

Like your point but all the blues guys you mentioned are in and I know Bob Marley is in.

@mikewestfall827

4 жыл бұрын

Johnny Winter

@robertsaul234

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikewestfall827 absolutelly...and Rory Gallagher.

@kennethjames8314

4 жыл бұрын

Buddy Guy is in the hall.

@derekroberts6654

4 жыл бұрын

Is Big Mama Thornton in the Hall? The ORIGINAL artist of “Hound Dog” and it’s more raunchier....

Judas Priest , thin Lizzy , Motörhead and soundgarden should of gotten in , good video though I see all your points

Miles Davis is still there, Pete. 1987. But generally, I totally agree with the context of this video. Look at this list of people that aren't there: Alan Parsons Bachman Turner Overdrive Dixie Dregs Emerson Lake and Palmer Faith No More Focus Gentle Giant Grandfunk Railroad Iron Maiden Jethro Tull Jimi Hendrix Joe Satriani Judas Priest Kansas King Crimson Living Colour Marillion Nazareth Procol Harum Queensryche Rainbow Renaissance Scorpions Steve Vai Stray Cats Supertramp Sweet Tears for Fears Triumvirat Uriah Heep Yngwie Malmsteen

@lostthenfound1

4 жыл бұрын

Finally someone listed Grand Funk! Sold millions and millions of records and what a great live show!!

@islandbee

4 жыл бұрын

Tear For Fears. Most definitely. And Supertramp.

I just want to know when Pele is going to be inducted into the Baseball HOF?

@eduardomorel

4 жыл бұрын

jamie t You said it all!!! Fantastic!!! (From a Brazilian born in Santos and a strong supporter of Santos FC)

@jimsims9422

4 жыл бұрын

That's Gold !

@johnp.5882

4 жыл бұрын

Ok now that’s funny

Pete, you nailed it. I read the inductees this morning and just hung my head. I love your point about Mile Davis. i'm done with this, no way i'm watching it.

@jamesgingrich3837

4 жыл бұрын

Miles got inducted in 2006 with Sabbath and Skynyrd! I also think the Sex Pistols got in if I'm not mistaken!

There’s no NIN or Depeche Mode without Kraftwerk

@polarbear2579

4 жыл бұрын

None of the 3 belong in there.

@Justin_Kipper

4 жыл бұрын

There would have been no Styx with Kraftwerk. That's about it.

@ursaminorjim

4 жыл бұрын

Kraftwerk aren't in yet?! That's a major oversight.

@thevoid99

4 жыл бұрын

and both bands will agree with you.

@EANDM71

4 жыл бұрын

Chuck Stemm TRUTH! However, the case for Depeche could be made regardless of Kraftwerk. Bands that Depeche influenced are already in the Rock Hall. So yeah, it’s weird. Without Depeche there wouldn’t be NIN but here we are.

I don't get these fan voting, what's the point if high scoring Soundgarden and Judas Priest won't get inducted.

@JfK--OBJECTivE

4 жыл бұрын

They don't deserve to be in, that's why.

@GoldTop57

4 жыл бұрын

Mister LuLu Wrong

@LouieKaboom

3 жыл бұрын

Or Pat Benatar. She was high up there in the fan voting as well.

Honestly, the Rock ‘N’ Roll Hall of Fame needs to be rebranded as the Music Hall of Fame. Solves the problem real quick.

Tremendous Show !! PETE. !

T. Rex were long overdue. Marc Bolan and his band, along with producer Tony Visconti, introduced a new Rock n Roll sound for the 1970’s.

Pete...your comments are spot on... Have the same opinions overall! The RNR Hall Of Fame should be for Rock. It would be great for so many deserving artists to be inducted.

I feel like our whole society is just trying to please everyone - all the time - everywhere. I can't say I listen to that much rap but I don't hate it. I don't really see the point in hating music but having a Rock and Hall of Fame and just throwing in who ever and don't include obvious names of the main genre? It feels like any modern action movie where they have a weak story line and just throw in whatever they can think of and hope it turns into a good movie. Seen the last Star Wars movie? Basically just 75 ideas thrown together without much thought. Quick scenes and everything happens instead of something particular and smart. Seems a bit like Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. Men, women, old, young and any genre must be included. The actual inpact on rock music doesn't matter as long as anyone can watch the show and feel someone appeals to them. I wonder how much Notorious BIG would have cared about this if he been alive? Probably just laugh it off and be thankful for some extra cash. It might be true that RAP is a much bigger industry than rock now.. But how many rappers look or care about Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

@mck7646

4 жыл бұрын

It defeats the purpose of having a rock hall of fame if they put in rappers. Just more blatant reasons as to why people don't take any of this seriously.

@mikebrideson6512

4 жыл бұрын

Have a rap and hip hop hall of fame

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

Whaddaya expect-it's in cleveland!?! They paid the most to get it, gave the land, etc.

Got any blue oyster cult

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite groups of all time. Glad to see someone recognizing them.

@dvdly

4 жыл бұрын

No, I don't have any Blue Oyster Cult. I ate 34 pairs last time around. Where were you?

@thelasthandbook6704

4 жыл бұрын

@@dvdly I have to re-watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High sometime. I'm just afraid it won't be as good as I remember it being.

@dvdly

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelasthandbook6704 It holds up for me and not just for nostalgic value, but that the actors manage to deliver the dialogue such as to render the whole thing seamless, catchphrases notwithstanding.

Well said all the Lizzy votes and Benatar votes everyday for nada!!!!

The fan vote means nothing. I've heard Eddie trunk about about that. Judas priest should have got in they've been around about as long as The Doobie Brothers.

@Mr_Clean

4 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Guzman his ballot this year was: pat benetar, priest, Motorhead, T Rex, Thin Lizzy.

Hip hop or rap does not belong in the Rock and Roll hall of fame

@lindsaym6607

4 жыл бұрын

Hip hop is shaped from r&b. R&b helped shape rock and roll. I think a lot of you don’t know the history as to how the genre of rock and roll was created and the original purpose of why the rock and roll hall of fame even exists. If you look at the first induction ceremony they consisted of a lot of r&b singers. Rock and roll has versatile beginnings.

The Rock Roll Hall Of Shame is a disgrace I agree

Far out T-shirt Pete. 'Fire of Unknown Origin' is a master piece.

@markbyers1651

4 жыл бұрын

B.O.C. have never even been nominated.which is BS

@AudiophileTubes

4 жыл бұрын

YES, it is!

@grahamtaylor8912

4 жыл бұрын

One of my favourite albums of all time.

@williambaxter4628

4 жыл бұрын

Dave E it's my most played BOC cd!

@patrickmcleod111

4 жыл бұрын

Are you a 'veteran' of the psychic wars?? If so, thank you for your service!

Agreed with you totally, Pete! Whitney and Notorious B.I.G. do not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They should just change the name to the Music Hall of Fame if they are going to continue this trend. One artist you didn't mention in your Rant is one that definitely should have been in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame years ago, and that is Todd Rundgren, not only an incredible influence on rock music from his Nazz days forward, but also influential as a producer of a lot of great rock and roll records.

My school certificate I got when I was 5 has more credibility than the RORHOF!

@timothyorie7021

4 жыл бұрын

Perfect!!

Build a wing for each Rock and Roll decade, Then put EVERY single recording artist in. That should end the angst, bitter hatred, and apathy!!

@johnstucky2168

4 жыл бұрын

CHARLES NOLAN Participation trophies for everyone!

In addition to rock, I also love hip hop, but I think it should have its own hall of fame. R&B too.

Two great albums from T. Rex: Electric Warrior and The Slider. That's about it for this year.

@alexjohnston8889

4 жыл бұрын

T. Rex Tanks isn't bad but electric warrior is better so is slider.

Amen, Pete. I couldn't agree more. Maybe they should call it the What Have You Done For Me Lately Hall of Fame. I could make a case for the Stones and Queen to be in the R&B Hall of Fame. The songs Miss You, Another One Bites The Dust and Emotional Rescue.

Apart from your "rants" I enjoy looking at your wide assortment of rock t-shirts.

At what point will Dolly Parton, Garth Brooks, and Reba McEntire be enshrined into the Hall of Fame? After all, aren't they rock and roll?

@merckx155

4 жыл бұрын

so will The partridge family, donnie osmond, michael bolton, helen reddy and Kenny G

@patrickmcleod111

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are just as "rock and roll" as Biggie Smalls! I'm thinking we've finally discovered the REAL reason Iron Maiden hasn't been inducted yet.... It's because they aren't "rock and roll", like Reba McIntyre and Biggie! We'll just have to patiently wait for the Gangster Rap HOF to open up, so that bands like Iron Maiden can FINALLY be put into a HOF that accurately represents their genre!!

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

Look who's playing at the Super Bowl. As Dee Snyder said, WTF happened to RnR?! JLo, Shakira..Pavarotti next? Celine Dion? No one's off the table now.

@scottchoate6987

4 жыл бұрын

@@stephanierae650 i hate the super bowl halftime show-it blows.

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

@Perfect Stranger Tip toe through the tulips.

I totally agree Pete. If this is how these acts are selected then why bother having a fan vote. Piss on the Rock and roll hall of fame.

Pete, I am fully in agreement with your post. The Hall only looks at the financials.

Boston Kansas BOC Foghat Styx REO Frank Marino Pat Travers UFO Motorhead Scorpions Iron Maiden Rainbow Whitesnake.

@timolson2047

4 жыл бұрын

Black Oak Arkansas too!!!

@JohnSmith-kz8yo

4 жыл бұрын

And Grand Funk, Foghat, and Ted Nugent...

Hip hop is not rock 'n' roll. Little Richard is rock 'n' roll. He says so himself.

@williambaxter4628

4 жыл бұрын

iamreg1965 THANK YOU!

@springer90

4 жыл бұрын

NIN isn't music!

@stephanierae650

4 жыл бұрын

Bunny rabbit "music"?

i am Rock'nRoll & Heavy Metal fan , but Frankly i'm happy for Depeche Mode they are one of the pioneers of new wave & Electronic rock...they have a career of almost 40 years and their albums from "Black Celebration" to "Songs of Faith and Devotion" are great albums and very influential on many musicians of all genres...even Trent Reznor ( nine inch nails) admits their influence on his music !!

I've been sending this video everywhere that I can. I see you have over 10,000 views and I bet you're going to have more coming each day. Yours is the greatest video I have seen out there so I'm showing it to people on the Pat Benatar site and posted it to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Facebook my page everything that I can because I think what you said is very important and relevant. Thank you Pete. Appreciate everything you do.

You tell em pete. Judas priest, thin lizzy, motorhead, should all be included.

Priest Maiden UFO Styx Induct while they are still active/alive

@alexjohnston8889

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think maiden care if they're not in the hall of fame,, they know how popular they are with their fans just look at the size of their tours.

@bunnyplush

4 жыл бұрын

Styx is way more successful than Cheap Trick

@billydow9798

4 жыл бұрын

Herman Helmich I couldn’t agree more with your list ..all four that you mentioned 👍🏼

@michaelbaucom4019

4 жыл бұрын

Kansas, Supertramp, Jethro Tull, REO Speedwagon, Foriegner

@brucefranklin6295

4 жыл бұрын

@@bunnyplush I think that I read somewhere that Jan Wenner(Rolling Stone Mag./Exec.Board for RRHOF) said that Styx will never get in the RRHOF.Have no idea what his vendetta is with them.

Thank God for you Pete! You are saying what the fans think and feel. It's becoming a misnomer naming it Rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Agree 100 per cent. Two of the most talented and deserving snubs who should have been in 20 years ago are Paul Rodgers in both Free and Bad Company and Todd Rundgren.

I do wish Priest would withdraw from this charade. This thing is fatally undermined, has been for years now. Why would any self respecting rock musician want to be associated with it? It's no achievement at all to be nominated. It's just bizarre.

Rock n Roll hall of shame!

Thank you Pete! You hit the nail on the head about the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame and it being all about the definitely will not be watching. I still love your Rock Shrine of Excellence idea and it being in New York. We fans of REAL music should get it going. Take care.

I'm a Millennial! Don't blame us! Many Millennials love 70s/80s rock and metal. I've always looked to the past because I've found little mainstream music of interest post-1992.

@laustcawz2089

4 жыл бұрын

You might try the newer not-so-mainstream music.

More like Shit 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, my favorite musicians don't care this kind of stuff anyway.

@shspurs1342

4 жыл бұрын

Ezio Auditore Sadly some musicians actually do care about award shows.

@runawayuniverse

4 жыл бұрын

If your favorite musicians don't care about it, why are you here crying over it?

@ezioauditore7427

4 жыл бұрын

@@runawayuniverse Who is crying? Are you a joke...

@brianchappell4054

4 жыл бұрын

You do care enough to comment.

@ezioauditore7427

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianchappell4054 I wanted to tell the people how empty that community is just like your comment.

Miles Davis was inducted in 2006

Excellent rant Pete. I'm sick of the hall screwing around with the bands of our youth, if they get chosen into the hall in the next 10 years or so, most of the guys or gals will be in their late 70's or mid to late 60's. It's not worth it, the hof has just lost all sight of what real music is. Bands I would like to see in the next 10 years: Jethro Tull, J.Geils Band, Kansas, Pat Benatar, King Crimson, ELP, Thin Lizzy, UFO, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Jeff Lynne for production, Blue Oyster Cult, Camel, Caravan, the Guess Who, BTO and Grand Funk. Forget it none will be chosen!

100% agree with what you said. The top 2 vote getters from Fan voting were Dave Matthews and Pat Benatar, yet NEITHER get in?? If we are going to be the Politically Correct Rock Hall of fame why not Miles Davis, Chick Corea, Weather Report, Herbie Hancock etc. These guys have been influential for many decades.

Iron Maiden has had an incalculable influence on metal, they still fill arenas and stadiums worldwide, and are similar to Rush with a large and rabid fan base who love complex and thought provoking music. The fact they have not gotten a sniff is all you need to know about the RR (Rolling Stone Magazine) Sham Hall of Shame. I like the way the guys from Rush handled it - they didn't care, but knew many of the fans did and they embraced it. I also love how they wait until people start dying to honor a deserving band. I think about Yes, who was another no-brainer. Of course Chris Squire wasn't there to enjoy the moment.

I agree with your rant, it should be the "how can we line our pockets hall of fame"

Eddie Trunk has explained at length just how minuscule the voting actually is. Hundreds of musicians, executives, historians, and esteemed music journalists each have 5 votes to use on the pool of nominees. Winning the fan vote only gets you ONE vote. It doesn't matter how many millions of people voted for a certain act. If you win the fan vote, it online counts as ONE extra vote on your ballot.

I found this info, not sure if this is 100% accurate but makes sense with what you are saying at the end: "The top five vote-getters in the Fan Vote comprise one “fan ballot,” which is counted as just one among a thousand other ballots. Those ballots are filled out by members of the actual voting body, which includes music journalists and other industry insiders, along with every living person who’s been inducted. So, more than 8 million fans cast their votes online under the impression that they’re having their voice heard, but really it’s just for about one-tenth of one percent of the total vote."

Wow I am actually surprised they got this so wrong. Amazing.

Bill Legend. TRex.. Long time coming..

Yup. Saw Miles Davis at the Front Row theatre in 1981 and his guitarist-Michael Stern-was ABSOLUTELY a brilliant ROCK guitarist. Of course Davis always surrounded himself with the best musicians. Almost all went on to become legends in their own right. Your analysis is spot on. I loved Miles but he was a JAZZ master! RTHOF is a sham.

Agree! though Dave and Pat were separated by 100 grand not a million votes. As a teen in the 70's I know the impact Benatar had on young women when she hit the scene, and there is not a influential female rock or pop singer today (even some country) who has not said she was one of their inspirations. She changed rock and roll for women. Neil also does not get the respect he deserves as a great rock musician and producer.

Rock bands should start telling them to stuff it when asked to be in.

We need a heavy metal hall of fame. Rrhof is a complete joke.

@petebrown3715

4 жыл бұрын

There actually is a Heavy Metal Hall of Fame. Metal Church is being induced this year. Thank God. The RnR HOF is crap. It should be renamed: The Music Hall of Fame since we put rap, pop music in there.

@patricklane9506

4 жыл бұрын

i believe there is one in California Lemmy was one of the first inductees

@eeshsinger

4 жыл бұрын

Pete Brown Exactly then we make a real rock and roll hall of fame where REAL Rock Fans who are in controls

I couldn't agree more. This so called "Hall Of Fame" is a joke and holds no relevance whatsoever. When they initially announced they were creating it oh so many years ago I thought it was a cool idea and thought I'd one day plan a vacation around visiting it but, honestly, I wouldn't go out of my way to go there now.

Its becoming not bout the music anymore its ridiculous and the screwed the voters and i completely agree with what your saying

How does Joan Jet get in before Pat Benatar. And once again, metal gets kicked to the curb.

@flyingburritobro68

4 жыл бұрын

Michael B probably because Jett was recording rock long before Benatar. Jett is seen as an iconic game changer being one of the first female guitar players in rock and being in The Runaways. Both should be in for sure. Benatar’s husband Neil Geraldo better be in as well as he is the musician she is the voice.

@BigRagu939

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, Jett was a one hit wonder and punk poser. Pat and Neil had multiple platinum albums, pioneered MTV, and had years of sold out tours. Jett, not so much.

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

I have asked that for years.

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

@@flyingburritobro68 All of her hits were remakes by previous artists.

@raymondkizer1216

4 жыл бұрын

@bucky468 .Thank you for correcting my monumental ignorance and stupidity! Cheers!

Grand Funk Railroad Three Dog Night T-Rex

I couldn't agree any more Pete.. it's now the Rock n Roll Hall of Lame

No Todd Rundgren?

Miles Davis is already in.

@seaoftranquilityprog

4 жыл бұрын

Is he? Well, that is good then!

@georgelamie7001

4 жыл бұрын

@@seaoftranquilityprog Disagree. For the same reason I don't like Madonna or Grandmaster Flash being in. He's not rock n roll. I'm a jazz fusion guy too, but I don't want to selectively accept genre blurring when it suits me. Honestly, if you look at the all time list of inductees, Miles induction in 2006 may have opened the floodgates for non-rockers, unfortunately. It's said to have been a highly corrupt, influence job too, spurred on by Quincy Jones .

@seaoftranquilityprog

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgelamie7001 My point is he's more deserving than a lot of the lame ones we've been mentioning. In theory though, yes, jazz, rap, country, soul, etc...no go

@ShanghaiRooster

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgelamie7001 There's plenty of 'not rock' guys inducted before Miles. Check out the full list.

@georgelamie7001

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShanghaiRooster Not sure I'd say plenty. There are def. some that aren't pure rockers, but they tend to have some tenuous connection to the genre, or are offshoots, like Buddy Guy, Prince, The Clash, Michael Jackson. It was post-Miles that we started getting rappers and dance music on the regular.

Trex.. No Grand funk railroad

@lostthenfound1

4 жыл бұрын

Grand Funk the biggest travesty right now!

😡 what a crappy list of inductees. Why would I be surprised? John Lyndon of The Sex Pistols called it right when he said the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a piss stain. His band was inducted and they didn’t show up because they know it sucks.

Priest should have been in before Metallica and Deep Purple should have been inducted in the 90s. They've snobbed so many great bands for years.

how about the band on your T. Shirt? B.O.C's light may have dimmed over recent years but they are still playing after nearly 50 odd years. But man did they release some fantastic albums.

@seaoftranquilityprog

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

The hall has tons of blues artists and I believe Miles is already in

I love how each year people get pissed that non rock artist are inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, but totally forget that the first group of inductees weren't all rock. I always thought that The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame was to honor artist that have inspired other artist and made some sort of mark on the history of music.

So the purpose of the HoF is about TV ratings and selling tickets, not honouring the contribution of artists to the incredible world of Rock Music. I am not a fan of any of the nominations, but that is beside the point. I completely agree with Pete Pardo's assessment. This is a travesty!

Actually I think they DO care it's why Neil Peart admitted in his speech that it really is a big deal to them! And why Geddy thanked their devoted fan base for making it happen.

Pete, do you have a rant video about the artists and bands that have been inducted into the Rock"n'roll Hall of Fame that don't beong in there? If you haven't made one, maybe you should. :)

Pete, Miles Davis was inducted in 2006 with Sabbath and Skynyrd! I agree with your rant totally! We should have Return To Forever and McLaughlin and Cibham in too! I can't believe Boston, Foreigner or some that you mentioned aren't in yet! I'm not a Judah's Priest fan, but they should be in also! Thanks for the rant!

I am so pissed off so I agree with every single thing you are saying. You are on to something my friend. I never thought about the Whitney big whatever he is tribute because they both passed away. In fact, you're the only person who has come out and said that he isn't alive. I didn't even know who he was. Whitney yeah I figured she'd get in because Janet Jackson got in last year. Well thank you because this is a great rant. I was so looking forward to some good news because it's been a really tough week in the music industry and very sad. Then, today is very sad and angry day.