I'd say that Grace Under Pressure qualifies as a classic Rush album.

@mck7646

4 жыл бұрын

No doubt, solid album, no bad songs on it. It's really right on par with Signals.

@MrClassicmetal

4 жыл бұрын

@@mck7646 Now that I thought about it a bit more, I'd say that it's actually a better album than Signals.

@mck7646

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrClassicmetal perhaps a slight edge for GUP, they're pretty close in quality.

@MrClassicmetal

4 жыл бұрын

@@mck7646 Yes, I listened to both albums and some others a few times last week. I was binging on Rush again 😁 And I'd say the quality of the compositions and the production are slightly better on GUP. Which says something about the band itself.

I'm going through your older videos and enjoyed this rant. Largely agree with you.

I could never understand why some people didn't rank Power Windows higher in their fav's list. From a lyrical standpoint, this is some of Neil's best song writing - very meaningful songs. From the musical side, it's also some of Neil's best drumming too. Power Windows is so underrated.

@danieldelrio1411

Жыл бұрын

1. Hemispheres 2. Moving Pictures 3. Power Windows my top 🔝

@ronroxtarmedia1846

5 ай бұрын

Power Windows is my fave Rush album.

1. Hemispheres 2. Moving Pictures 3. Power Windows my top 🔝

Hot take here 🔥. I think power windows is a sonically perfect record. The balance between guitar and keys . Neil's drum sound on top of his playing is at its peak.

Watch live tonight, tonight, tonight. You might think differently. Listen to Dreaming While You Sleep, especially live. Driving the Last Spike and Fading Lights are also very good. Outside of a couple of songs, I like We Can't Dance.

“Driving the last spike” and “fading lights” from We Can’t Dance always gave me a feeling for the older progressive rock Genesis

@skallagrimr_kveldulfsson

4 жыл бұрын

Driving the Last Spike may not be as complex as the 70s long tracks, but it definitely feels epic and reaches the heart, and the main synth melody is just beautiful.

@noersang

3 жыл бұрын

It’s by far the best moments on that album. After Hackett left, they became quite boring.

@carlgibbons5777

3 жыл бұрын

Dreaming While You Sleep another great one.

@davewarzynski6540

Жыл бұрын

My sentiments exactly

In terms of drop off, Rush is a gentle slope while Genesis is a cliff.

I think you're spot on regarding Rush. Grace Under Pressure is easily the best of that lot, and the song "Afterimage" is amazing, though tough to listen to after Neil's passing. Distant Early Warning is fantastic! As for Genesis, I mostly agree, but I feel you're shortchanging Invisible Touch a tad. Sure, it's really pop music but it is INCREDIBLE pop music and a true work of art. No, I never listen to it anymore because it was on the radio every minute of 1986-87, but that doesn't take away from it's status. Even the ballads "In Too Deep" and "Throwing It All Away" are fantastic. And yes, "Domino" is a killer prog-ish tune. I actually feel bad for the band because the album gets knocked so much only because it was overplayed to death, but the reason it was overplayed is because it was so damn good.

Genesis review starts at 08:55 - great video Pete!

I agree with you 100% about "Grace Under Pressure". Great record!

The problem with We Can't Dance is that they tried to fill the full 80 minutes of CD with filler. If they kept it down to 45 minutes and just kept the top 6 songs on there it could have been a pretty good album.

Not even a nod to Driving the last spike? Ouch. I love what's going on instrumentally in that tune

The Pass and Kid Gloves. Two of my fav Rush songs. Missed both on your comments

@nickavenoso7851

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Christel Kid Gloves is also one of Alex’s favorite solo’s.

Invisible Touch was massive. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight is pure Genesis, Land of Confusion, Domino 1&2, The Brazilian, title track, it's poppy, but proggy too.

This was a real good assessment of the era of Rush and Genesis. I feel some similar reactions to these albums and for some reason I am more willing to be forgiving to Genesis then Rush here

Totally agree with you that "Grace Under Pressure" is the best post-"Moving Pictures" album for Rush in the 1980s. Back in the day, I preferred "Power Windows", but "GUP" steadily eclipsed it over time.

Many bands in the 80s relied too heavily on drum machines and electric keyboards. That said, I've never understood the venom directed at Invisible Touch in particular. To my ear, "Tonight Tonight Tonight" and "Land of Confusion" rock harder than almost anything Genesis ever did before.

@benedictdonald4338

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Seim there are indeed many great songs on that album, in particular.

Kind of agree with his comments on Genesis up til "We Cant Dance" granted - some of the songs on this album are forgettable but the last track "Fading lights" is an astonishing song that's full of emotion.

GRACE UNDER PRESSURE is an amazingly fine album. I agree with you per; SIGNALS.

Grace Under Pressure is killer start to finish!

I have all the Rush albums and Grace Under Pressure is still my favourite. It’s pretty much self produced as Peter Henderson would not give them much direction in the studio which makes the high quality of the record even more remarkable. I love Lifeson’s guitar sound throughout the record.

Have to agree here for a large part. I like Abacab (the song) and The Land of Confusion is well constructed and good. I also like I Can't Dance and I don't have to hear Mama again. Even the last one with Ray Wilson has some nice songs, but all in all they are no comparison to, say, the Hackett years.

Agree with you on Tonight,Tonight,Tonight,much better on the album than the radio version.

Early Distant Warning - just love the song - right there with Subdivisions and anything else they did. I had to pause this video to watch the EDW video... And I really do like Abacab and even Invisible Touch is not bad - the lead single is massively overplayed but the album is good. The Brazilian is wonderful as well. First time I heard Domino was at Ohio State Stadium in the 90s and ADORED it... LOVE Jesus He Knows Me...

Have to agree Grace Under Pressure is the best after Moving Pictures, then I would put Signals and Power Windows - the rest after that I can do without ...

Hi steve I am a lifelong Rush fan! I,m 58 btw. Permanent waves was a 1980 album but I guess that wasnt the point! The 90,s albums were pretty good also! Yet again I implore you to review King Gizzard and the Lizzard Wizzard!

Nice job with this re-evaluate. I’m more of a Genesis fan so I have knowledge of them. You were generous with your comments on Genesis and Miserable Touch. Those sort of stink with the exception of the songs you noted. I do very much agree with ABACAB. Definitely has some good tunes, who dunnit aside. That album for me ended the bands appeal. I will say, the unreleased songs Evidence of Autumn, Me and Virgil and You might Recall are really strong. Those should’ve ended up on the album of their period. Not exactly sure if that was ABACB or not.

*Rush:* Love *Signals,* like *Grace Under Pressure* very much, don't like *Power Windows* as much, even less so *Hold Your Fire* (except for such gems as Time Stand Still and Turn The Page), and *Presto* is slightly better, but not by much. *Genesis:* Love both *Duke* and *Abacab,* I used to love *Genesis* but now I merely like it (Mama is great as is Just A Job To Do), *Invisible Touch* was a major come-down although I love Land Of Confusion and Tonight Tonight Tonight (the title song and Throwing It All Away suck, though). As for *We Can't Dance,* well No Son Of Mine is actually good and I actually now like I Can't Dance (I used to hate it). That song, of course, was an indictment against pop singers and is far more applicable now than ever. Love your videos, Pete!!

I agree 100% across the board!

Enjoyed the Rush analysis...I'm not familiar with Genesis to comment. I agree with your Rush ordering. Grace Under Pressure is awesome. I've heard it referred to as Cold War music and that feels accurate. Signals through Power Windows captures my 80's adolescence like no other music. Presto and Hold Your Fire don't do much for me. The Pass is a powerful song though.

I have to agree with the assessment on Presto. There just wasn't enough of what makes Rush great on that album. Vapor Trails was a pretty subdued effort as well.

It was Geddy on Line 2, to tell you how much 'Signals' owns 'Grace Under Pressure'.

Totally agree that GUP is the best of the bunch for Rush, but as far as Genesis goes, Silver Rainbow from self-titled, Tonightx3 from Invisible and Driving the Last Spike from Can't Dance deserve serious props and have some proggy elements. That being said, Home By The Sea and Domino DO shine brightest.

I got off the Genesis bus after 'And Then There Were Three' and I'm still avoiding that bus.

Grace Under Pressure was my first Rush concert, so I have a soft spot for it. Power Windows was ok, but by the time Hold Your Fire came out I was on to other bands. As for Genesis, I liked some of the songs from the '80s albums, but overall the sound was too commercial for my ears.

Couldn't agree more Grace Under Pressure is a fantastic album , Power windows did get a lot of bad press at the time which i thought was unfair

Signals

Hey Pete, Have you heard of the new Rush movie/biopic/whatever you want to call it? Will you go see it when it comes out in August? It is supposed to play one night only nationwide. I live in Central Oregon and ona limited budget, so I probably won't be able to go see it. So I'll wait till it comes out on Netflix or video. Love your show, and your knowledge of music is great You rock.

i like signals more than moving pictures, its actually my favorite rush album. great show

@mck7646

4 жыл бұрын

Some real gems on there. It probably has more replay value, there's only so many times I want to hear Tom Sawyer and Limelight in a year.

Grace Under Pressure is my favorite album from Rush.

i am new at this chanel but i was thinking about genesis and rush, both band that i love most with special mention to Marillion, so my finger taping unconsciousness and bring me here, so guy i am in my zone. Greeting from Chile

The Genesis song "illegal alien" was a huge hit in Mexico..

I Like at least Five Tunes on "We Can't Dance", which is "No Son Of Mine", "Jesus He Knows Me", "Never A Time" (a Decent Ballad, par with "In Too Deep"), "Tell Me Why" and "I Can't Dance" (which I Thought is Getting Annoying if You Listen to It a Lots of Time), "Hold On My Heart" would be a Better Phil Solo Song.

Grand Designs is such an amazing and majestic track and my personal favorite from Power Windows too. It seems that everyone else thinks Manhattan Project is the highlight of the album but I think it's a bit too cheesy.

Man on the corner. What a ballad. :)

I just listened to all the Rush albums for the first time. I don't like anything after Signals. But the early stuff is great!

"Distant Early Warning" is Rush's best song of this period. Change my mind.

@davidmomberg8208

3 жыл бұрын

Marathon!

I've always been in the minority with this but I adore 'Hold Your Fire'.

Glad to see a lot more love for Power windows. Easily a top 5 for myself. It's the album that made me love Rush. After Neil passed I went back and listened to Emotion detector, Middletown dreams, and Mystic Rhythms and remembered why this band made me a firm fan

Have you ever seen "the musical box" play vintage genesis shows? really great experience and a small intimate venue!

@seaoftranquilityprog

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, quite a few times actually.

@rickleblanc8900

4 жыл бұрын

Saw The Musical Box twice, simply brilliant. Note for note, bang on musically and visually. I remember leaving those concerts and going: "wtf did i just witness?" Lol ! Mindboggled !

Love it or love hate it invisible touch introduced a lot of people to genesis. Hopefully they checked out the older albums, after they bought Invisible Touch.

‘Power Windows’ is an absolute perfect 10.

@CBLounge2112

4 жыл бұрын

I agree 1000%!!!

@craigfazekas3923

4 жыл бұрын

Except for that title !! 😜 But then again, as an album title, " Heated Seats" may have been taken ?....

@RickNBacker

4 жыл бұрын

Crackling energy on that album. The songs and arrangements are so good that I can overlook the overcooked keyboards.

@TheMentalblockrock

4 жыл бұрын

In that vase all of Rush's 70's albums are 100/10 !

@StyxTBuferd

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely my favorite Rush album. It's so underrated.

Dreaming While You Sleep and Driving the Last Spike are pretty damn good, but yeah....it's probably their most uneven album since their debut.

Lock & Key is my favorite Rush deep cut

Half of my top 10 Rush list is from the 80s. Moving Pictures Hemispheres A Farewell to Kings Permanent Waves Signals Power Windows 2112 Grace Under Pressure Fly By Night Clockwork Angels

DUDE! Dreaming While You Sleep is epic!

good call, you would be crazy to include Signals

I love Presto but get why people don’t like the production

Grace under pressure my favourite rush albums

Many thanks for this excellent vid. I recently stumbled across your channel and enjoying the content so much that I'm looking back over your older videos such as this. I haven't listened to much Rush in a long time but was really into them back in the eighties and was fortunate enough to see them live. After watching your video I slapped on Grace under pressure and wow - what a great album. Thanks very much for reawakening my appreciation of this great band!

I actually really like Invisible Touch, when I'm in a poptastic mood.

@sirkayda7205

4 жыл бұрын

It's got great melody, but it's still too musician-y and complex to be considered pop.

@marguskiis7711

4 жыл бұрын

When you dress sharp and take your axe...

I've come to the conclusion recently that "Grace Under Pressure" is my absolute favorite Rush album, with "Hemispheres" a close 2nd.

@rickleblanc8900

4 жыл бұрын

For some reason , i kinda prefer Farewell To Kings to Moving Pictures or 2112. I just find that album really hard to beat, Cygnus X-1, Xanadu? Really ?! How the hell did they come up with this magnificence ! You really have to search high and low to find anything that sounds this awesome nowadays. Overall, Rush are beyond talented and definitely one of the top bands of all time. No wonder they're so revered by the rock, progressive and metal bands we all love

I don't understand the frequent complaints about Genesis taking a pop turn in the 80s. I mean, nobody complains about Peter Gabriel doing Shock the Monkey, Solsbury Hill, Games without Frontiers, Big Time, Sledgehammer, Steam, and Digging in the Dirt.

Great production on power windows, and yes hold your fire and presto are downers.

Grace is an amazing album i have always liked that

The day Grace Under Pressure came out, I skipped school so I could go downtown and buy it as soon as it hit the store shelves. I remember standing outside in the cold, waiting for the record store to open. When I got it home and put it on my turntable, I LOVED EVERY FRICKIN' MINUTE OF IT, from beginning to end! It was exactly what I expected from Rush... Something different. Signals was a good album, for the most part, but it felt kinda like a sequel to Moving Pictures to me, and like most sequels to great movies, it just failed to match its predecessor. P/G was something completely fresh, and new. I like Power Windows too. In a lot of ways, I think it's a more solid Rush album than P/G, but it just didn't excite me as much, and that's when that slick, '80s (over)production was starting to come into play. I don't like Hold Your Fire much at all (I think I've only listened to it a couple dozen times since it came out), but I REALLY blame the production on that album more than anything else. I think if they went back and remixed Power Windows and Hold Your Fire, and got rid of the glossy '80s production, it would make Hold Your Fire a much better album, and it would make Power Windows a GREAT album.

@ijontichy471

8 ай бұрын

I have similar memories of GUP. Except that after school I recorded this album from the radio in the spring of 1984. I'm from Poland, at that time we had a communist system and our country was behind the Iron Curtain, there was no chance to buy a vinyl record or cassette in a store. Fortunately, there were people on the radio who presented music "from the West" :) GUP literally blew me away and it continues to this day! Tłumacz Google

I always loved Grace under Pressure, Power Windows, Signals &......Presto!! Great stuff in the 80´s!! Wonderful review!!

Signals and GuP are the peak for Rush- the songs are king.

I love just a job to do Domino The Brazilian My favorite genesis 80s songs

Permanent Waves actually kicked off the 80s. Also, I always thought Phil sounds like Bon Scott on I Can't Dance (just the vocals).

@adamlosurdo2114

4 жыл бұрын

@@111highgh Incorrect, and grow up.

@lonegroover

4 жыл бұрын

Sort of. It was recorded in the '70s of course.

@nickavenoso7851

4 жыл бұрын

111highgh Permanent Waves was recorded in 1979, but released in 1980. Hemispheres was the end of the 70’s and was released in 1978.

@jimmycampbell78

3 жыл бұрын

More importantly, the penny had never dropped with me in regard to how much Phil Collins sounds like Bon Scott on that song- now that you mention it, you are absolutely right!

@infinitysconcinnity2418

2 ай бұрын

'I Can't Dance' does kinda resemble 'Big Balls', lol.

Power Windows was my first Rush experience, love that album, great rhythms in it.... love the big synth sound.

Very fair assessment all around! You really nailed it. And this is coming from someone who has listened to Power Windows thru Presto more than any other period of Rush by far.

'It's Gonna Get Better' is brilliant.

But through it all, "Red Sector A" is maybe one of the most important set of lyrics I've heard my entire life and makes the song one of their "post-Moving Pictures" career best.

Driving The Last Spike is great

@craigfazekas3923

4 жыл бұрын

Yup !! Driving The Last Spike is what I consider to be their last great song. Epic/opus....

@bonedog5130

4 жыл бұрын

They'll never see the likes of it again

@carlgibbons5777

3 жыл бұрын

I like Dreaming While You Sleep just as well.

@cylonred8902

2 ай бұрын

We Can't Dance is really a good/great album... Lot's of satire...

You are at your best when you mine the old stuff and unearth it for us. Great stuff Pete! Cheers!

I've always loved "In The Glow Of The Night" from "Domino" has always stood out as a great single with still a flair for the deep cut stuff Genesis is good for.

A Show of Hands hooked me on Rush in high school, which was mostly the post Moving Pictures 80s stuff live.Worked back through the catalog from there and was blown away. Similar experience with Genesis where Invisible Touch made me investigate the prior catalog.

@rickleblanc8900

4 жыл бұрын

Invisible Touch sounds like a whole different band, right ? Lol ! Their 70's material is so majestic imo. And Phil Collins' drumming was amazing back then. Abacab was my favorite 80's album btw

@cbciosubs

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickleblanc8900 , Would probably go with Selling England and Trick of the Tail as my favorites with Duke favorite from the 80's.....rarely pull out Invisible Touch these days, almost like a solo Phil album. They are probably still cashing the checks though!!

@rickleblanc8900

4 жыл бұрын

@@cbciosubs oh, my bad ! Yes, Selling England and Trick Of The Tail are indeed solid albums for sure. What i really meant was Abacab was imo their last fairly decent 80's album. I did enjoy that one. Afterwards, it was the Phil Collins solo show and they lost me by then

I grew up in the 80s & 90s. Both Rush & Genesis had some decent albums in the 80s but suffered a bit in the 90s. The 1983 self-titled album from Genesis is one of my favorites of the 80s. Rush did have a string of great albums from 1980 to 1985. Hold Your Fire & Presto are the weaker of the 80s discography. As for Rush's 90s albums, they're ok. A few decent tracks but not quite up to the standards of the 80s output.

Power Windows is the last classic RUSH album for me. Grace Under Pressure is probably in my top three RUSH albums. Pretty much agree with everything here, but I rank Presto a bit higher.

Rush can't be faulted for taking risks with each new record. Too many groups "develop a sound" that sells and then keep trying to recapture it. Signals: My favourite Rush album, not MP. Eight strong songs. Grace Under Pressure: Dark and emotional, but it stands up. One of my top five Rush albums. Power Windows: I liked it at the time, but this is a case of "Killer opener, the rest filler". My least favourite Peart lyrics were his "third person" era, too much "he" and "she", seen most on PoW and HYF. Hold Your Fire: The one Rush record I can't stand. Sometimes I can take "Time Stand Still" and "Prime Mover", but the rest I usually skip over. And "Tai Shan" is competes with "Best I Can" for Rush's worst song. I love Geddy's bass line on "Turn The Page", but those lyrics.... 😬 Presto: Love the songs, love the direction, hate the production. Rupert Hine did Rush a favour and pushing them back towards a guitar-centred sound, but there's too little bass on this record. It needs to be remastered.

As you get older you appreciate Signal, P/G, and Power Windows even more. Some of Neil's absolute best lyrics. Losing It is amazing.

Abamama: Abacab; Dodo/Lurker; Me and Sarah Jane; Naminanu; Mama; Home by the Sea Parts 1 and 2. Now that would have been a great album. Should have released all the other tracks as singles, EP's and 12"ers - in my Better Genesis World anyway. Alternative 'Invisible Crutch': Tonight,tonight,tonight; the Brazilian; Land of Confusion; Domino; Do the Neurotic; Feeding the Fire. Then forget the last two albums.

After Signals, all of the Rush albums suffer in one way or another to my ears by the absence of Terry Brown. Hold Your Fire is so lightweight yet those tunes sound so much better live. Power WIndows is far and away my favorite of the bunch... and no matter how many times I revisit Presto, I can't reconcile it. Lightweight singer/songwriter verse/chorus stuff with little of the elements that define Rush (proggy arrangements, tricky instrumental passages)...

Don`t forget "Duke", the grande essential intro for 1980s!

@seaoftranquilityprog

4 жыл бұрын

Well, I already really liked that one, which is why I didn't include it!

Great Video! I think Genesis wanted success with their pop albums, while Rush was trying to evolve their sound! Meaning , they didn't want people to think every album after " Moving Waves" was going to have that same formula sound! I think the 80's for Rush was a path for musical exploration, between having keyboards and Alex's textured guitar work! Anyway the Rant about the phone was great!

@lawrenceterwilliger6787

5 жыл бұрын

I meant " Moving Pictures" !

@daneng3641

5 жыл бұрын

@@lawrenceterwilliger6787 I thought "Moving Waves" was intentional and is a good way to refer to both of those albums.

@lawrenceterwilliger6787

5 жыл бұрын

@@daneng3641 Thanks!

@sethstopcallingmeryandickh9067

5 жыл бұрын

That's a name for Dutch band focus secondth album in 1971

@nickavenoso7851

4 жыл бұрын

Lawrence Terwilliger it’s sounds like you combined Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves, 😂

Permanent Waves kicked off the 80s for Rush! Signals is my second favourite Rush album after Caress of Steel. It's a really great album for its time. To me, Power Windows was the last really great Rush album. I like the production on it a lot. I'm not as forgiving as you about the later Genesis stuff, though there are good songs to be found. (Keep it Dark)

@mck7646

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, Power Windows is their last great album. The rest vary greatly in quality.

@robertsmithers9059

4 жыл бұрын

@@mck7646 - I said the same thing about Power Windows until Clockwork Angels came out... but then after many listens I began to be bothered at how noisy and cluttered it sounded and I backed off my high opinion of it. I'm back to rating Power Windows as the last great one.

@mck7646

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertsmithers9059 That's a fair assessment I would say. I'm not big on Clockwork Angels at all, though The Garden is a decent track. It's just not up to standards and the mixing is loud and muddy. Most seem to like it though.

i saw Genesis in 1980 on their Duke tour- glad I did, proably at their peak then.

I would say We Can't Dance is half good, half bad. I really love the first 3 songs, and then Dreaming While You Sleep is pretty good, Living Forever grew on me a fair amount, and Fading Lights, along with Driving The Last Spike, are the closest to Prog Genesis you're going to get on the last last 2 Genesis albums (not counting the disaster that is CAS)

Grace Under Pressure, Signals, Power Windows are all classics. Genesis, sorry but Duke and Abacab are fantastic albums. Both are in my top 5. Genesis, Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance are good albums with lots of classics like Home By the Sea, Domino, Tonight and more. No group from the 70s stayed the same.

I have to say that I first got into Rush listening to Hold Your Fire and Show of Hands.

@rickleblanc8900

4 жыл бұрын

First Rush song i ever heard was Finding My Way ! On the radio, no less ! Very Zeppelin influenced of course, which is a great thing. I was mindboggled. At the time, i didn't know they were Canadian, surprise ! First Rush album i listened to was All The World's A Stage, from then on, i was hooked forever. Such awesome musicianship

@dustyjoe71

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickleblanc8900 Next Rush I got after those two was a three cassette set called 'Archives' which consisted of 'Rush', 'Fliy By Night', and 'Caress of Steel'. It was 1989 I think.

Grace Under Pressure is my absolute favorite.

Invisible touch is a true stinker. Saw them on the 1987 tour at Roundhay Park, Leeds. 70.000 souls waiting for the 70s medley towards the end...

@rickleblanc8900

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance ??!! Man, what were they thinking? I can't fault Phil Collins' talent and keeping Genesis going after Gabriel left, but wow wtf ! Imo Abacab was the last fairly decent album they put out and even then, they were sounding like a different band. Btw, Phil was a great prog drummer in the 70's, on par with Bruford imo

Nice job Pete. Thanks for avoiding any comparisons between Phil and Peter!

When I bought Grace Under Pressure when it was released, I couldn't get into it. Then when I saw Rush in concert for the first time and they played some tracks from that record I was impressed. I revisited the album and was hooked. I understood it ! Great album!!!

What about "Calling All Stations"?

No mention of Duke? (March 80)

Signals all the way is the best out of those albums Neil's drumming is amazing

Dreaming While You Sleep from We Can't Dance is amazing.