They seriously NEED to give Lorelei an expansion like Glacia I can’t believe they went lazy with the LAST old elite unit I was at least expecting her to be solid freezer cause we definitely don’t have it even if not that reliable.

I agree about Hop, Marnie and Bede rankings. Hop looks great on paper but activating all of those multipliers in a timely manner will take some time. Meanwhile Marnie goes Brrr with 1 turn setup and doesn't require enemies stats to be lowered. And Bede is the greatest offensive support we've had.

@muhammadhabib9433

Жыл бұрын

Dude, you're right. But, looks like Bede must be 3/5 to get Entry Freebie node. Wtf with 4 bars TM hahaha

Low key now Gloria with the enemy sync once and applied rebuff has the greatest sync nuke in the game. Gloria is now nasty! Also if she has SE she is an insane DPS

I also think C.Hop and C.Bede are pretty interchangeable in 2nd place, but I don't think any of those C.Hop complaints are legitimate. If Fighting damage dealers aren't that impressive number-wise, then it means they appreciate the Zone to pick up the slack that much more (and having more Fighting Zone setters means you can now have up to two Fighting teams boosted by Zone in LG). Postwick Perseverance means he does not discriminate btwn phys and spec drops (it's only a problem if another unit needs SpD debuffs while randomly having DC2 as a LS, b/c Postwick Perseverance only activates off C.Hop's own attacks). For phys units who provide extra Def debuffs like D.Gloria... _they don't use the SpD debuffs anyway._ The only big Fighting attackers that take advantage of SpD debuffs are C.Hop himself (Smarty Pants), Solgaleo, and Wally. SC Diantha hits on the phys side w/ both her Secret Sword and Sync, so unless you're meming w/ Aura Sphere dps (the Staggering is pretty nice though), she doesn't touch the spec side (she only leeches SpD to buff her Brute Wits). In any case, maybe the real argument for C.Bede>C.Hop is that debuffs have common mitigation Passives (so they cater more toward those debuff-based multipliers like Relentless/ITI on Marshall/Brawly/D.Gloria/etc. than general damage), while Up Next effects don't (so they actually are more general). The other arguments I'm hearing sound kinda superficial.

As a unit hop is a step above the other 2 champion (all of them are broken) 1) the game would progress at some point. Fighting type unit arent the greatest pool of unit as dps BUT what if they gonna release a crazy fighting type dps unit? 2) Having a zone/terrain/weather unit is much valuable considering this kinda unit are very limited and this is why the moltres legendary battle is one of the hardest in the game. An example: they release a broken unit that do damage or support the team, look when they release SS Morty, SS Brendan or SS Steven and after that SST Red or even Ash, Champion Calem, the new jasmine at some point they have to powercreep the best unit for selling the unit or waste the gems of the players, mainly damage dealer and now even supports. We dont have a second unit that give that exactly zone, we have only 1 bug zone, 1 flying zone, 1 ghost zone (2 if you count SC Lily but i dont count that because is RNG...). 3) works well with both physical and special, he still reduce special defenses with his passive what a tech unit suppose to do. 4) if you looking lucas, lucas has zero cost of his "time roar" after using a trainer move or dragon zone etc... this thing hop had every time he hits with his fighting move despite his terrible speed. Immagine having a unit that hit every time for a 0 gauge move and deal solid damage. Only the first hit you using the gauges otherwise you can use a unit with "rock smash" and you hit with hop with zero gauges... if you think the opponent survive after you reduce every time a stats, be realistic is very unlikely look some of your video, you cant even keep alive your opponent 😂. The downside about hop as you mention it, are the fighting unit that he supports arent the best at the moment because are mainly nuker but keep in mind now they can finally synch with fighting zone and not wasting the synch on Aura cynthia considering dps fighting units arent the best as said previously, at least not at the level of the best type in the game like water, fire or elettric (even psychic is very powerful dont get me wrong but its kinda fall a bit) and now also dark with Marnie At the end, both 3 masterfair are broken BUT isnt fair to say the unit isnt the best because other units are above avarage, to me seems like an excuses because this unit is one of the best zone setter or even the best zone setter in the game.

@MikeTolosa

Жыл бұрын

I agree! You don't really need to go nuke-only on fighting types! For example, I use Sirfetch focused on its DPS move only, and use EX Sync Move on Cynthia for reapplying fighting zone and prepare the bonus 2 Phys. Attack Up Next after the sync. This duo is amazing along dojo Gloria, but Galarian Zapdos will do wonders, too!

@sergioalvarez4473

Жыл бұрын

I agree, he has one of the (if not nº1*) best utility kits between all zone setters plus a lot of damage and sync nuke. Really surprised by Poce's flawed arguments Edit: *n°2 I mean, was forgetting Lyra lol

@RegentStatue745

Жыл бұрын

Nah I agree with Poce he's definitely the least impressive. Zone units are overrated imo and at 1/5 he feels like a borderline pokefair unit, definitely would be one if it weren't for his buddy move. He's the only one I might skip for these reasons and is also straight up the worst at 1/5

@MikeTolosa

Жыл бұрын

@@RegentStatue745 Really? I mean, most OP strikers already buff themselves to max in 1 or 2 turns, so an offensive buffer is not needed. Hop, on the other side, apart from having zone he is a top tier defense nerfer, both physical and special, and along with that he can also nerf speed for extra grid multipliers for both him and other damage dealers

@raizen4597

Жыл бұрын

@@RegentStatue745 all of them are top tier obviously. Of this 3 units i would say marnie she's probably the best for new players. For people with a mid account hop is better. Champion bede is probably the one that you could actually skip (SS Brendan banner would available soon with anni may, physical supports there are hop and zamazenta, sonia and yamper and also aaron and vespiqueen and many others) SS Brendan is a pokefair with 1.5% rate instead of 1% rate of Champion bede and you know how hard is to pull a masterfair unit, you cant deny that. If i have to choose what unit pull if i dont have a support, i would go for the SS Brendan and anni may because you gain so much more than a masterfair banner where there are only 1 limited unit and also hard to pull. Spending 36k gems and not finding the unit you need hurts so much. Champion hop is basically a new zone setter and only SS aura chyntia we have that do that a masterfair unit... the debuff he provides, you have dojo gloria as an alternative. This at the moment is the only unit that ensure you synch with the zone at the moment and that is really important considering the fighting type isnt the best. This unit is more valuable more and more when they release new fighting unit. Champion Marnie is a damage dealer arguably the best. Champion bede honestly isnt impressive, is very powerful but he doesnt do something special compare to the other masterfair units. SS Kris as probably one of the most broken grid ever made, SS aura chyntia max your defenses quickly as most of the supports cant do, champion calem is kinda a better champion bede and has the ability to switch types and benefit to change also passive on that (probably the best support in the game). Champion bede is very powerful but when you already have an average account isnt worth it especially if you dont have SS Brendan that would come up soon. I rather pull a pokefair instead of a possible shaft on a masterfair banner yes at 1/5 champion bede is still good but i rather getting the unit quickly instead of wasting gems for units that i could possibly not need it...

Had it been me, I would've inverted the move and sync move multipliers. Have Brainpower as the nuke multiplier, and have Furious Brawn as the move multiplier.

I agree with putting Hop last - not that he’s a bad unit in any way (he’s the one I’m prioritising pulling in fact, since I don’t have SC Diantha. SC Guzma or Dojo Gloria) Aside from the issues of not having other Fighting-types on his level to support, he’s a Jack-of-all-trades. Ironically it’s the Lorelei problem but to a much higher level; he’s great at every part of what he does, but doesn’t do any of it to the transcendental levels that Bede and Marnie achieve. But I will give Hop one thing - you keep forgetting that he DOES debuff SpDef too! His passive means that any of his Def drops impact SpDef as well, so his support for SC Diantha is unaffected

@MikeTolosa

Жыл бұрын

I find Hop as an amazing debuffer as well as really nice DPS on buddy move! I can't see how can people see Bede even half as good as Hop, even in my case, when I have Dojo Gloria and SSA Cynthia

I guess I'm lucky my Gloria is 4/5 because it won't take long to candy her up for the end.

See you on the 7th. I had 38k gems before and after SS Diantha (I got her tho), I was left with 11k and more than 4 missing common (3 and 4 star) units.

I was confused on the Keldeo Diantha & Hop thing? He has his passive where the defense he lowers also lowers the special def when he lowers def? So wouldn't they work together or am i missing something

@LucaMidi

Жыл бұрын

They work perfectly well together, he is mistaken.

@ChaunchoCYM

Жыл бұрын

Diantha hits on the physical side anyways because of how her mood works. I believe the point Poce was making was that Hop's master passive does nothing for Diantha's damage.

Bro I don’t understand the thing you said about hop and sc diantha literally sc diantha does damage based Defense instead of special Defense

@theforgottenz3741

Жыл бұрын

Secret Sword is a special move though so Hop's master passive will not buff its damage.

Can’t convince Bede is better than Hop. 4 gauge moves on a support. No. Hop gang ✊🏼

I got lucky and got Marnie on my first try today, I’m now choosing who to focus on, kinda really want Bede because his suit reminds me of some personal stuff but ehhhh….

@darkfallSK

Жыл бұрын

Not joking I pulled 3 times on the Marnie banner 1 hour after it released. She quite literally came home on the first AND second multi for me so now mine is sitting at 2/5. Marnie is also my favorite poke girl (tied with Serena). Now the plan is to save for Bede or try for 3/5 on Marnie from the banner.

@MrBeanJr123

Жыл бұрын

You guys are so lucky. I got shafted😞😞

@Bell_Cat639

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrBeanJr123 you and me getting shafted hard😮‍💨🤝

Good to make a team with the 3 bird?

could u make a video with too teams in general

Can you do a move candy tierlist please

27:02 I feel ever so slightly called out.

Lance is number 1 in my heart forever and always!

@darien4969

Жыл бұрын

Nah not when you have the queen and zygarde 🤣😂

@cyzo

Жыл бұрын

​@@darien4969 wait until lance grid expansion

@gazyng

Жыл бұрын

@@darien4969zygarde ages gracefully

@asuuki2048

Жыл бұрын

@@darien4969 … “in my heart”.

@gnkstudios6138

Жыл бұрын

Big mood. Sometimes I wish Dragonite and Charizard had a baby ❤

SC Diantha's Secret Sword and Sync hit on the special side so she for most purposes is a Physical unit.... Except for the Master passive buff, that is kinda yikes

I spent 18k gems on Neo Marnie last night and proceeded to not get a single 5 star. I will get her >:(

@SV-jb6yo

Жыл бұрын

You’ll get enough gems this month to get her, don’t worry!

@JrSniper12

Жыл бұрын

Me too but I'm going to keep trying. Even if she's the only one I pull that's enough for me.

That Hop argument makes no sense at all. Just because SC Diantha can't benefits from his master passive (while 95% of the other fighting type cry for it) and he is bad? That's just dumb. Even so, Hop's Fighting Zone on command alone already make him the better partner of SC Diantha, Def & SpDef shred is just icing on top. Not to mention he also has the highest base sync multiplier and is the strongest Sync Nuker in the game without rebuff. A Dojo Gloria + Aura Cynthia, two most praised support combined, MAX team Crit buff AND ridiculous tech Sync damage is not good enough? I don't know what is man. Bede is a good support. Don't get me wrong. But he is just way too overkill in most cases. New sync pairs are usually pretty self sufficient, take 3.5 anniversary MF for example. NONE of them need Atk/SpAtk/Crit from Bede. And most sync pair DON'T need both as well. There are A LOT of options to choose when most sync pair only need a minimum buffs from the support. Now, Bede passive needs sync to refresh his MP. So after first sync, his remaining option is to (1) Do some passable-ish support damage? (2) Use his TM for the physical & Special move up (again, overkill) by 1. He has no zone/weather/rebuff, It's just not a lot tbh. But still, the potential to max Atk/SpAtk/Def/SpDef is still something older sync pairs would enjoy. And 2 PSMU + Supereffective Up on first EX support sync can be very funny for B move nuker like Ash, CMarnie, SS Lysandre. If I can only pick one of these 2 guys, I would definitely go for Hop no question. Bede is GOOD, but he is easily skippable of the three.

Probably gonna just do daily pulls on hop and try to spend my gems on beade instead.

what is that website

You legit only will use Bede in Legendary Gauntlet. Why would you not use a support/tech what uses Weather?Terrain?

Is that considered lucky in this game to have pulled galar moltres and articuno and lance f2p

Guys help I haven’t played PoMa seriously since like October, what have I missed/who should I summon for?

@aswin5151

Жыл бұрын

U should definitely pull Marnie because the game is lacking dark type strike units Also bede is a fantastic support Hop he is good but ex Bea does good damage

@radiusx89

Жыл бұрын

definitely go for Marnie and possibly bede

I'd definitely put Hop over Bede but that's me I guess

This convinced me to say pass on Hop and go for Bede instead. I like Hop probably more than most people but I really don't care if I miss out on him, especially when I have Aura Cynthia and SC Diantha already and SS Elesa synergizes with them so much already. I already have plans to pull on Anniversary May and that hasn't changed, but Bede is one I'm summoning for now because I'll have enough gems to pity both of them in the event I get shafted. Unless I get insanely lucky and pull them early like I did on Champion Marnie (second multi by the way so I'm due to get shafted) I'll pull on Hop for the sole reason that he's a masterfair.

i only got marnie to 2...i'm halfway to my 36.6 just in case.

Will hop and bede return? Please can anyone tell me?

@MikeTolosa

Жыл бұрын

Probably. They will take around 1-2 years, tho. Maybe even more

@sabarishs5445

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeTolosa oh thanks man

Surge got an EX?!

Of course Articuno is good, but nobody has the gems to all 3, and most people will choose hop and marnie over him cause nowadays we want supports who are great and set terrain/zones/weather

Is bede really tanky though? Like I feel like without any defense buffs, healing or anything like that. Like I know his base bulk is good but without any ways to sustain or reduce damage I feel like that isnt gonna matter in harder stages also he isnt super fast and if you want to really get the value you are gonna have to use someone else the help. Dont get me wrong I think he is a great unit but one of the best supports in the game seems a bit beyond him

@zachariahmiksch8933

Жыл бұрын

B Move maxes defenses over time. He has built in vigilance so give him Healthy Healing. Grid can give 40% heal on every sync. Grid can give gusranteee confuse and then heal on every hit against confused opponent. Why don't you actually look at the kit before making wrong declarations?

@swift3520

Жыл бұрын

you cant argue with that tm bro😂😂 smoking that falkner pack with that +2 special attack crit and attack with 2 effectively 3 uses

@emerfirek

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't worry about C.Bede's survivability. C.Calem has lower HP/Def/SpD, tougher activation of Def/SpD buffs (Eva-based), and fewer heals. ...But for phys teammates, he provides faster Atk +4 and Pride>Flag Bearer, which is I guess the tradeoff. On the spec side, you can compare him to SS Kris, who also has lower HP/Def/SpD, and tougher Def buffs (Brine: Team Stoic 4, lol). Her SpD buffs are potentially easier though (tm: Team Barricade Buddies 1), as are her heals and SMUNs.

I think Bede really shines in gauntlet when you need to carry bad damage dealers. But he hasn't very much to offer to top tier units compared with the field setters or top supports like SS Brendan, SS Dawn, H Jasmine, C Red, etc

@raizen4597

Жыл бұрын

Champion bede is still an insane unit but the weaker from the 3 in my opinion. The main benefit you had with this unit, can be used both as physical or as a special support and he does that very well, also they give both physical and special move up next of all your team and is really nice. The major problems about bede as a unit in my opinion: -would be cooler having garanteed freeze instead of confusion (its kinda not unique on what he does like most of the other top tier supports). -the b move is only 1 uses and with only 1 defense and 1 special defense buff isnt the best (on the grid you can having 1 extra stat buff on both defense and special defense). Probably the main reason you wanna pull for him is: -there isnt so many special support on galar? (At some point galar villain arc would come into the game) -you dont have enogh decent supports (you lack on support units), also 1/5 this unit is still good. This unit kinda remind me of a worse SS Kris but also for physical units. Dont get me wrond champion bede has an insane passive an insane trainer move BUT the grid isnt the greatest compare to most of the masterfair support we had. The thing kinda let me down about him, all masterfair supports does something unique and this one not.

@donutchocolate1515

Жыл бұрын

@Raizen No, his B move is not 1 use. Thanks to his passive, he can restore 1PM of all his moves each time you sync with any unit.

I already got my galarian moltres my gems are safe lol

Hopefully they also give great upgrades to the other champions because then they suit the champion title 😆

Honestly, you could just use Bede to Freeze for Lorelei. Problem solved!

@emerfirek

Жыл бұрын

I really can't get over C.Bede not having guaranteed freeze despite Freezing Glare only having one effect to reference. I hope they update his HE2 tile to HE9 in the near future.

@muhammadhabib9433

Жыл бұрын

@@emerfirek HE4 is enough I think🤔 It's 50/50 right?

@emerfirek

Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadhabib9433 HE4 would bump him up ~6% higher than L.Silver as the new highest freeze chance (L.Silver and Leonrex are currently still better than him at freezing), but after introducing SS Lyra, they no longer have any excuse for avoiding guaranteed freeze. What better unit to put it on than a Master Fair whose signature move can freeze?

@muhammadhabib9433

Жыл бұрын

@@emerfirek Well, they won't cause it's Dena 💩. Or maybe they forgot and don't care, classic move. Like Lodge Dawn On roll 4 haha. I mean, there's no selectable scout this anniv, so they really scamming us.. Bede case is one of em

@emerfirek

Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadhabib9433 The champion ticket scout was kinda the sole select scout this time. But what's closer to scamming is no hint of purple gem deals. I'm not falling for these pink deals. They're way too expensive compared to the purple (and red) ones.

Used 30k gems and didn't get a single marnie~

Ok so skip Hop then. I've already gone for Marnie, sadly to go to pity for one copy though. Gotta go for Bede too

@luisfillipebeserra2108

Жыл бұрын

don't do that, you'll regret it in the future, literally bede has nothing that makes him better than hop, literally SS brendan who comes at the end of the month is better than him

I really don't understand the point of "selling" the Ball Guy. Like, it's a trash banner, for a not-so-good kinda meme unit. Who the hell is gonna spend their gems on it except for whales and content creators? Just give it for free to all the players with a meme battle or a meme event and call it a day, it's not like he is a game breaking unit or anything like that lol

@ricocav

Жыл бұрын

Especially after 3 master fair banners with sync pairs infinitely better than him 😂

@Oreo-es1sw

Жыл бұрын

@@ricocav I know right? It's so stupid lol

@ScudItUp

Жыл бұрын

Honestly he's the only unit I'm going for this month lmao, not that big of a fan of the galar trio besides Bede. I prefer Ball Guy as a character to all 3 of them

@igoraugustosilva1706

Жыл бұрын

When I saw the first I though it was that free unit which we fight randomly(like sandslash and hunter), Than I realise that there was a "Ex" in The star and become "????really dena????"

@ricocav

Жыл бұрын

@@ScudItUp Understandable, they definitely could've handled the sync pair better though. Even putting him in the regular pool would've been better than this. Ball guy deserved better 😔

Predicting 1st and Last place: 🥇: Marnie & Moltres Last: Lorelei & Lapras ;~; _________________ Edit: In hindsight, this one was fairly obvious lol…

Bro always put psychic units above actually good units

I just came back to the game because of seeing pokemon day and getting all these free gems. I put them all into Moltraes and didn't get a single one.... I think it's such bullshit that you have to spend thousands of dollars into this game to be able to get a character. I think you should be able to get one guarantee and for the duplicates have those % chances. It also really pisses me off that I'm getting the same duplicate sync pairs every god dam time. Give me a character I do not currently possess. After you have collected all of them start sending the dups. I just want all my money i spent on this game back before they introduced the stamina bs. You can't just change a game that much after players already put so much time and money into this shit. I hope one of the developers see this and makes the changes ive said to make this game actually fun again. Safe to say I'm uninstalling it once again.....

@bierangtamen

Жыл бұрын

Bro gacha games are just not for you…

@powerfulberry237

Жыл бұрын

A tldr that shows only how stupid you are I started playing on August and go f2p with absolutely no problem. Also you can beat the game completely f2p so it isn't like you need these pairs

@TechnoArpan

Жыл бұрын

Lol it's not like you _have_ to spend? I've never spent anything on the game

@Gorgex_

Жыл бұрын

Bro the stamina system is so useful, on the early versions u had to play for hours to get some xp books or use autoclickers and risk the ban, nowadays u just use some stamina and u get +100 books in minutes.

@bierangtamen

Жыл бұрын

@@Gorgex_ Do u mean stamina or skip tickets?