Kieran’s list is great, so much better than Kieran’s!

@HyenaRump

2 ай бұрын

I dunno I think Kieran's list was pretty good

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

We see you.

The imperial Fists were actually wiped out during the battle of Ardamantua except for one marine who became the leader of the Imperium for a bit the remade the chapter with members of other legions and eventually started making new ones, but technically the chapter was destroyed. this was all during the rise of 'The Beast' which is an amazing series of books about the Orks

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Will give it a look!

So I am here to explain why I like the ones I do that got bad ratings: Alpha Legion: honestly I love the trickster, no one knows where they are with you, type of vibe and deal, it's just something that appeals to me generally(In TTRPG's I tend to favour tricksters or run up and smash your face in and tank hits like a brick wall) so they just tickle my fancy. Salamanders: I just like the juxtaposition they have with the imperium conceptually. The caring vs the Uncaring and all that. but ultimately space marines are a faction that I generally don't get much out of so it was really interesting to hear the opinions of people who clearly are more into them than me.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

The trickster thing is interesting! Very riddler

I don't know why they didn't split the wolves into feral chapters and viking chapters

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

True! Some sub chapters for the SW we'd 100% be down for.

@Spardin

2 ай бұрын

Agreed I think you need to split some between 30k and 40k as they are pretty different

1) Imperial Fists 2) Ultramarines 3) Salamanders 4) Emperor's Children 5) Dark Angels My number surprises no one I'm sure

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Ultras and Sallies at 2 and 3 👀👀

@cryptshadow682

Ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show i know.... Ultras should be 1, imperial fists should be nowhere in sight...just bootleg ultras ;)

Finally! Been waiting for this ranking :)

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Let's goooo

18. Iron Hands (I hate them in every way, lore, primarch, look,... the best thing about them was being pwned right at the start of HH) 17. Death Guard (I hate Morty and them appearing everywhere while having the Nurgle silliness takes away too much of the horror - made me sick of them...) 16. Imperial Fists (the reason their successors are so well fleshed out is because they have no personality in the first place - they look as speedbumps on the road and are as interesting) 15. Salamanders (I don't like their scheme, hate the fake drow skin and eyes, overall they are boring) 14. Word Bearers (they serve the purpose of bad guys of the setting, but are bland) 13. Iron Warriors (their armies can look soooo good, but that's about it... they are more interesting IF) 12. Raven Guard (I love the concept around their warfare, but I grew up with punk and always looked down at emo... RG are wannabe edgelords) 11. World Eaters (tragic story, but too one dimensional) 10. Ultramarines (too bland to hate, too bland to like) 9. Blood Angels (just the good guys... honestly they could be even lower with their pseudo 'evil trait' - 'Vampires' - boohoo... yeah, they are fine, but also nothing entertaining about them) 8. Emperor's Children (crazy - love their descend into madness, they feel off and absurd and it works) 7. Space Wolves (in theory they could be a top three, but then you read their lore and realise what cringy hypocrites they are... Russ is the worst... and the werewolf thing went too far... ridding giant wolves?... c'mon... they are this high because I love to hate them) 6. Sons of Horus (don't care about the Black Legion, but the OGs are what gets the story going) 5. Night Lords (love them as villians, love their traces of 'loyalist-terror-to-save-lives-because-we-are-more-humane-than-the others' ... Curz was a bit meh) 4. Alpha Legion (... I'm of two minds - they could be a Keyser Söze-story or just 'I'm Alpharius' then they would join the bottom... but I like their approach to warfare - turning planets on themselves - even though sneaky infiltrating SM is still stupid) 3. Thousand Sons (Magnus was wrong - and arrogant - but his legion was cool - and arrogant - and Ahriman rocks) 2. White Scars (if you want cool, not pathetic Space Wolves, you go with White Scars - also the most common sense legion and Primarch... If they had a dedicated range and I wouldn't already have a Ravenwing I would play them) 1. Dark Angels (got into them in the 90s, since they got lore and best troubled Primarch - lore has too much meme-Asomdai, but the concept is great, even if the execution is somewhat meh)

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

White scars 2nd is hella interesting!

Love your work guys. Discovered you two a month ago and binged nearly all your videos since. Also Kieran when do you stop shaving your beard and start shaving your chest? Haha. Keep it up guys!!

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

If I didn't make clear shaving gaps I'm 100% I'd look like a wookie. Great to have you with us mate!

@eggylewin6177

2 ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show Wookiees ain’t so bad 😂

What are Imperial Fists up to in 40k? Prolly still getting stomped by Iron Warriors.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

They made the most fire sub chapters and then gave up.

Oh the Alpha Legion is so much more than that, but pour one out for Pech indeed What I love about the Alpha Legion is that they value their human agents even if they are willing to sacrifice them, almost as much sometimes as they value their own brothers. They will throw themselves into danger to save just a guy that believes in them, but they will be just as ready to send that man to die if it furthers their goals. It's a great dichotomy of "you matter, but you have a job to do." I also love where they are in 40k, where each warband of Alpha Legion is following what they think was the mission from the primarchs, and they are all probably wrong. I just love that. Legion is my favorite Horus Heresy book too though, so I am fully biased. Definitely recommend Harrowmaster for 40k Alpha Legion Also, Sangy is best boy Also also, still liked the video, thanks for another great video boys!

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Some interesting picks there! Legion as favourite book is very left field!

Love this and the Primarch ranking - more tier lists please!

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Our wish is your command!

Who here is alparius

A new video, a fresh opportunity for the Kierans to hate my armies. Word Bearers #1 lads. They gifted you the 40k. Erebus is greatest hero.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

It’s not intentional! Erebus totally powered up for siege of terra!

Asmodai take you Kieran for putting iron fists over dark angels...

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

If he can see me through all his smoke….

My favorite legions are the Dark Angels and the Alpha Legion. I like them both because they conduct warfare the way I would. Alpha legion infiltrating and basically trying to win the war before the enemy knows they are fighting one. When it comes to conventional forces, I like the wings set up of the dark angels. It just makes tactical sense to use their specialized formations.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Are you the emperor of mankind….?

"can't put black legion top for 1 character" Iskhandar lheor Telemachon Urkanthos All absolutely awesome

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

It's hard to disagree. The legion with the most sauce for sure.

Opinions on all colour schemes of all black legion, sons of horus and Luna wolves . I think all are great

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

10/10 every time.

Lords of silence for death guard is brilliant. Definitely made me want to get a death gaurd army…. Night lords best 40k books

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Oooooh we'll give it a look!

Favorites: Death Guard (The aesthetic, the commitment to the bit, and I love painting them) Alpha Legion (The deception and misdirection, the color scheme, and I am Alpharius BTW) Blood Angels (What's not to love about space vampires?) Least: World Eaters (Utterly boring rage monkeys, great models though) Ultra Marines (The official poster boys for milk toast)

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Poster boys for milk toast 😂

The Alpha Legion are a specialist Legion. The Night Lords are terror specialists. The Raven Guard specialize in more general stealth. The White Scars specialize in speed and hit and run tactics. The Dark Angels specialized in operational security and WMD. The Alpha Legion specialize in infiltration. They infiltrate power structures, embed agents, hide Astartes in place until ready to strike. Like the Night Lords they don't fight honestly. As for I am Alpharius? Alpharius is the public face of the ALpha Legion. There is Alpharius the Primarch and Alpharius the role. An Alpha Legionnaire refusing the give his name and using the shared identity of Alpharius is just denying foes more information. If you really like Legions like the Imperial Fists then you are not likely to find the Alpha Legion palatable. The Alpha Legion would not be bland enough for you.....

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Imperials fists were a little bland before the recent Siege of Terra series. They really came into their own.

@XHobbiesPrime

2 ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show I do need to read those books. But currently I am not a fan of Dorn or his sons. I did enjoy the War of the Beast books but in general I find them to be dull.

@XHobbiesPrime

2 ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show For Alpha Legion stories Legion, The Seventh Serpent, The Serpent Beneath and especially Alpharius: The Head of the Hydra. If you want to see a poorly written and incompetent Alpharius humbled by his oh so superior big bro you can read Praetorian of Dorn. But don't. It is shite.

1. Imperial Fists 2. White Scars 3. Blood Angels 4. World Eaters 5. Thousand Suns 6. Dark Angels 7. Space Wolves 8. Black Legion 9. Raven Guard 10. Salamanders

@the_kieran_show

Ай бұрын

Imperial fists number 1 ❤️

Read the Word Bearers trilogy and you’ll see how much more substance the Word Bearers have in 40k. First Heretic, Know No Fear, Mark of Calth, Aurelian and Betrayer add even more to the legion than just “Erebus is a scrub”

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Right hand Kieran has read all of those. First heretic is one the best HH books in the whole series!

Kieran's take on the UM....as kieran said... is wrong. so wrong.... a poorman's liion?! a poor mand lions?!?! someone hold me back!!!!

@the_kieran_show

Ай бұрын

FIGHT ME LIKE GULLIMAN FOUGHT AT TERRA, OH WAIT

Fun video. Now rank each Legion in order of daddy issues 😃

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Now this is the list we want to see.

Space wolves are my number 1. But i do agree they need a refresh. Im kitbashing + greenstuffing them into what i envision them to be. And yeah, logan grimnar on that stupid sled sucks. If they arent on the next release roadmap ill have to just do it all myself.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

What sort of aesthetic would you lean towards? Grisly or clean?

@KingMuzza000

2 ай бұрын

Definitely grisly. Working on some Hellblasters now. Lots off battle damage. Greenstuff pelts. Made some viking style hair cuts with greenstuff. Gave 1 a shaved head look using apothecary white. Next up im gonna use the assault intercessors to make some blood claws.​@the_kieran_show

Completely agree, Black Legion in a battered SoH colour scheme would look SIIIICK!

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Oh now we're talking

I am Alpharius and I agree with the ranking. Disregard us further at your own peril while we work. Ps. I assume you read 'Legion'.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Legion was just such a hard read 😭😭😭

Never read any 30k books, so I am going only by looks, style and 40k lore. And from that point of few, Salamanders and Alpha Legion rock! Black Legion (and Abaddon) is pretty cool as well. As for Imperial Fists, I think I would rank them pretty low simply because painting yellow sucks to much. :P

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Yellow it’s easy! It’s all in the pink undercoat

Kieran putting DA second has made me rethink life itself. Fire list tho, except NL should be first 😉

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha it was a shock to us all!

When someone tells me that their least favorite legion is Alpha Legion, I am sure that it's just all part of a complicated plot to hide their true allegiance, especially when they are wearing a blue shirt.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Circles within circles

now do one over every chapter ever mentioned, best of luck and all that

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Oh good grief 😂

Having never read any heresy books and being pretty unbothered by the lore, this is my ranking based on vibes alone 18. Raven Guard (a bit edge-lordy) 17. Death Guard 16. Iron Hands 15. Imperial Fists 14. Sons of Horus 13. Emperors Children 12. Word Bearers 11. World Eaters (My brother has them and beats my every time) 10. White Scars 9. Ultramarines 8. Iron Warriors 7. Alpha Legion (love the metal colour as well) 6. Dark Angels 5. Space Wolves (ignoring obvious models) 4. Blood Angels 3. Thousand Sons 2. Night Lords 1. Salamanders (I play them)

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Salamanders top is interesting!

@jamesmowbray1837

2 ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show what can I say, I'm a big fan of flamers

Woah that space wolf ranking wtf

@Raudulf

2 ай бұрын

Low for the known protectors of the downtrodden

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

I mean they down trod the Thousand Sons pretty bad 😂

Tiny Watchers!

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Smol ppl

Gillyweed!! 😂😂😂 I am DYING. Harry Potterman! Glug! Glug! Glug!

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

We have to own the HP references

Abaddon is just the 40K Darth Vader. Change my mind.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

A) he’s cooler b) he’s COOLER C) HE IS COOLER

@romeo.3472

2 ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show 1000%

DARK ANGELS!?

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

👀👀👀

For the emperor... and perfection 😌

@kelakogreenaddict1888

2 ай бұрын

bro you're called ahriman wtf

@Ahriman_362

2 ай бұрын

@@kelakogreenaddict1888 well ''for the emperor'' is also the emperors children battlecry even in 40k and my pfp is from 30k emperors children. And my second favourite legion are the thousand sons. And ahriman is the best traitor character. So...

2:58 Don’t get circles within circles!? You’re a Dark Angels simp 😂😂

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Dark angels make them cool

ave dominus nox

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Our brother in midnight clad

Probably just me, but I hate Ultramarines because I really, really hate that particular shade of blue 😂

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

What blues do you like? 🤓

@jonscott6459

2 ай бұрын

@@the_kieran_show more of an Alpha Legion teal.

Whats wrong with louis?

@the_kieran_show

29 күн бұрын

It’s just not as powerful as “Dante” 😂

Alpha legion technically is first and last… or is it…

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Who knows! They certainly don’t 😂

Not even watched yet but I know you’re going to shit on Raven Guard 😿

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Soz

i gotta agree, Leman Russ sucks

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Oh for sure.

Now do the successor chapters, you cowards.

@the_kieran_show

Ай бұрын

😅😅😅

@DwightOfTheDead

Ай бұрын

​@@the_kieran_show If you're still looking for a good book: "Spear of the Emperor" by Aaron Dembski-Bowden.

Ffs am I gonna start a black legion army 😂

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

Yessss goooooood

@Polite_Profanity

2 ай бұрын

I bought some possessed 😂

Waaaay too much wolf and not enough viking. Every second word is wolf. It's exhausting.

@the_kieran_show

29 күн бұрын

Totally!

Alpha Legion, Having arguably the best Primarch Book and top five HH books in Legion, at 18 because lol Alpharius Reddit memes. Then White Scars at 14 when they have 2 top tier HH books in Scars, play an enormous role in the Siege of Terra, and Jaghatai gets 14 because herp derp we fast? You told me everything I need to know about your channel. Hard pass.

@the_kieran_show

2 ай бұрын

No not just because Reddit memes. Not a fan of spies or that level of subterfuge. Really didnt rate Legion and honestly really didnt enjoy the White Scars heresy books. Just each to their own and there is no correct order. Like what you like (or dont in this case) 🤷