Do YOU think this was a huge punt or not? 🏈

@gregjohnson43

Ай бұрын

HUGE. V asked the key question : what flush draw is Rampage checking on that turn? Few if any. It's a call. What worse is calling? Sets or 2 pair? Even any J is hard to call with. He has a hand near the top of his range (what Ax is he 3 betting that's not blocked? ). It's not a bluff. He didn't think long enough. He's better than this. Usually

@brandonsmith666

Ай бұрын

not a punt

@pyrok007

Ай бұрын

I think Rampage was targeting a naked Jack for value, he didn’t put him on a flush, he th ought he had a lower straight and wanted to get paid,

@RobRochon

Ай бұрын

Rampage leads the league in punting average. This surely increased his average. He should just call on the river. I know exactly what he was thinking: Brandon didn't 3 bet him preflop so definitely doesn't have AK diamonds. He also has a J diamond blocker to the flush. I just don't understand what the logic was in shoving all in...his reputation is such that no flush by his opponent is folding to him (and Brandon called him with the 2nd lowest flush possible). But what hands are going to call him for value when he comes over the top for value?!?! another J?!? A set?!?!? Not likely...why call a J for a chop, and a set is beaten by too many things.

@rogelioorozco3154

Ай бұрын

Huge mistake the fact that he still thinks has the best hand when anounces ace jack😂😂

I think the hypothesis that makes most sense is that Rampage got so excited by "getting there" on the river, that he simply overlooked that the flush also got there. He was raising all in for value thinking he had the nuts. It's an elementary mistake, and shouldn't be possible at this level, but it is really the only suitable explanation. Especially since it can be argued that Rampage doesn't really belong at this level either.

for the first time in the history of poker, we've witnessed the value bluff.

@stevenxu5747

Ай бұрын

It was a merge bet

“Only when the tide goes out do you learn who has been swimming naked.” Warren Buffett

In his mind he was value betting imo

@jdee7940

Ай бұрын

He was. It's no mystery; he broke down the hand on his channel. He also thought Brandon had less $ when he shoved lmao. Dude is a space cadet. God I'd hate to be in Brandon's shoes tho... Rampage sittin there, accidental bet size, genuinely believing he's ahead--how tf do you get a read on that??

Brandon asks himself the perfect question vs Rampage….”If you had a flush draw, why would you check the turn?” He then answers himself by making the perfect call.

@Born2Punch

Ай бұрын

plenty of people check the turn when the flush doesn't come in lmao...it's not a certain tell at all.

@nosteinnogate7305

Ай бұрын

To not get raised by better hands or bluffs?

@AC-wl7ve

Ай бұрын

@@Born2Punch he has a range advantage though, so it would make sense to continue firing the turn on a flush draw. brandon can also just be playing the player here knowing that rampage is always going to blast the turn with a flush draw. i could see maybe KAd checking the turn just becuase you have the whole board locked up, but if thats the case why would you bet the flop.

@mumblez1369

Ай бұрын

To see a free card in a 135BB pot. You think that if youre on a draw you just blast 100% of the time?

@Born2Punch

Ай бұрын

@@AC-wl7ve "range advantage" nerdy ass 2024 poker lingo. No wonder it's so easy to make money now in poker LOL

Rampage is not a good enough player to be playing these stakes. He has no clue where he is in the hand, ever. He uses aggression alone for an edge and does so blindly. Kid just isnt good at poker

@jackspinner4727

Ай бұрын

And he can’t read people like an ivy

@pokerbat3655

Ай бұрын

Most the players on HCL aren't good enough to play these stakes. They just have money to play these stakes.

@kingkreole9121

Ай бұрын

I've subscribed Rampage youtube channel for a long time. I was a fan of his play perhaps two years ago. But even then I sometimes questioned his logic when he talked through his hand. Punting perhaps worked on lower stakes, scared money there, but it doesn't seem to work at high stakes. The analysis on this channel here is spot on.

@2160michael

Ай бұрын

Says the keyboard warrior talkin about the guy who is actually out there grinding

@jdee7940

Ай бұрын

Have u seen Rampage's take? He thought Brandon had less $ when he shoved on him lmaoo. He doesn't know how stacked his opponent is.

Rampage should just call the river bet based on the action to that point. The hands that fold to the raise are losing to the straight anyway. A flush is unlikely to fold.

Rampage doesn’t realize that his reputation is his worst enemy at the table.

@ridgerunner9072

Ай бұрын

He is water skiing with a boat anchor on his back

hey Jonathan I have a question.. when you quit a cash game online.? it's time limit? it's buy ins limit.. even when you are winning even when you are losing?. thank you for your time

The good ol value bluff

Rampage raised in a spot where better hands call and worse hands fold. I think he leveled himself into the trap that Brandon would raise his weak flush draws on the flop?

@stoodz

Ай бұрын

i dont think he levels anyone, even himself

Maybe Rampage was thinking he has the straight flush blocker with a Jd

@Paul-fe9ff

Ай бұрын

Lol at rampage thinking 😂 he is a joke .

The thing is..if villain is leading out for pot size on the river. Its either their hand is super strong or a bluff. Villain is repping atleast a straight when he leads out. So Rampage is only beating a bluff or a lower straight. I may be wrong..but it feels like Rampage is only getting called by better, so the all-in doesnt make sense if value is what you wanted..

@DavidKrakt

Ай бұрын

If Rampage really wanted to go for thin value...maybe raising to around 65k would make more sense. I honestly just lean towards a call. Pot size lead outs from out of position usually are nutted hands in my experience.

That boy is gettin his tail kicked the last while

I think Rampage discussing his “net worth” is meaningless considering how much it fluctuates on a session by session basis?

Classic Rampage... eventually the run good will slow to a crawl.

Rampage's play makes no sense as a value bet because as Jonathan observed, very few worse hands will call - you're almost only getting called by better. That said based on Rampage's reaction, I think he really expected Brandon to have a worse straight.

I LOVED watching Rampage's rise man, but the way he has been playing, the stakes he is at, it just seems WAY too reckless for my tastes.... I mean I am just a rec player that likes doing the lower stakes and some small tournaments, but he has been in absolute huge games and it seems his super aggressive style has been mule kicking him lately.

Nice analysis, thanks for your insight. I had to rewind this one a bunch cause my add

@codyhughes4472

Ай бұрын

There aren’t a lot of players double barreling the turn with a flush draw. I’m calling most players with the top of my range that’s a non flush of course on a river jam if he takes that triple barrel line.

@codyhughes4472

Ай бұрын

This was definitely a punt … this is even a comedic level of an example of it. Jamming there doesn’t even protect your bluffs. You’re just beat or get folded to

@codyhughes4472

Ай бұрын

Honestly who knows. Likely value. I honestly don’t care what he thinks….

@codyhughes4472

Ай бұрын

He turned it over like It was the nuts 🤦‍♂️

How can you be the best punter ever but never played a football game?? 🤔😂

Rampage was value-bluffing.

This gives hope for all those pursuing the poker dream.

The tone of rampage voice is something to remember.

I'm just confused by the sizing. He jams $128K into a pot of $49.9K. That makes the play feel more like a semi-bluff. I feel like the only hands jamming there for value would be flushes.

I saw this hand originally... 9:11 when Brandon said something like, "I can't believe I'm thinking about this" could Rampage have flipped over one card: the Jack of diamonds?

I don't think Rampage knew what he was going for

Why does Rampage play like a drunk $1/2 player ? He MUST really hate money.

What did he say about his net worth?

That was a hard call with 4 2. I been beaten by many higher flushes.

Soo, he made this call only because he was playing Rampage? A fold makes way more sense right?

He was 100% raising for value, knowing how he plays. Like you’re really gonna bluff the flush into folding

Rampage….. my guy….. damn

I've never seen Brandon fold in this situation. Gotta know your customer. 😮

This is the easiest snap call only on the river. J of diamonds blocker, never getting called by a lone Jack there, flushes are basically never folding against such an aggro opponent. No idea what he's doing there other than punting...

giving the action he was clearly jamming for value.

As Rampage is clearly value-betting, clicking it back, vs Jx/sets/2-pair, was probably an option. - Shoving 1.5x pot has to be an overplay.

Both...

When you value own yourself. Wonder how it plays out with a different diamond.

Is rampage the only player with a punt face🤣🤣

Not me for sure. Clearly there was a flush but bluff away so much is insane 😢

The problem is not what do I think he was doing, the problem is I don’t think he knew what he was trying to target whether getting a bluff or value betting. And that’s the problem.

I firmly believe that never folding to Rampage on the river, no matter the situation, is +EV

He should’ve bet at least 2/3 pot on the turn. Put pressure on Brandon . He didn’t charge him for seeing the river and he caught up on the river. I didn’t understand the turn bet. Then with a wet board and that 3 card flush on the board . I would’ve just made the discipline fold . Rampage hates to fold. He over bluffs excessively. Also, I think he should go down in stakes until he gets better. I think he isn’t properly bankrolled to play at those stakes and most of those guys are properly bankrolled and I think most are better players at that level. I would like to see him grind from maybe the 10/20 and crush it. 👍🏾

I don't understand Rampage's raise on the river. Any Jack straight or weaker hand needs to fold because the flush hit. Any flush hand would probably call because it's unlikely that Rampage will also have a flush and he overplays his hands a lot. 🤷‍♂

Is rampage related to Reggie Roby?

I think rampage thought he had to best hand, but he perhaps thought a super lowe flush would fold as well.

I think he was betting for value with the straight which suggests he would do the same with ALL flushes.

Shoving for value. I think its probably fine if he had AdJx the Jd only blocks 1 or 2 of Brandon's flushes. The real question is whether or not Brandon would bet close to pot and call with a K high straight. Seeing how he played on other streams I suspect he would bet fold vs this size. So probably a bad raise.

Did you know there is a state called Puntland? Rampage should move there.

Not understanding the "nuts" kept me from subscribing. PokerCoaching has never been to Bangkok 😂

Poker is so wierd with backing. Would you back a random day trader for a couple grand hoping they hit the right stock. Why do backers back bad players

All you have to do is slow play a couple good hands and you could get rampage like that

Rampage thinks holding Jd he's blocking most likely combo flush draws on this board and he can go for max value against a J with nut straight. Probably would have preferred to have Ad over Jd. Play has dubious merit.

He's a crusher at low stakes but not these stakes probably should go down

To Rampage punting is a skill.

DONK

Of course Rampage was shoving for value lmao. In his mind he doesn’t even stop to think for one second that one of the hands that his opponent could have made it to the river with were a couple of diamonds. He thinks that because he has a diamond blocker that it’s impossible for his opponent to have a flush. Huge fish.

I think he should probably stick to smaller stakes

0% chance he is bluffing. He is targeting a lone J. He certainly isn’t thinking about moving Brandon off of a flush

He should have just called .

Don’t bluff someone like Brandon. Guy is fearless.

Rampage needs to stay with 1-2 or 1-3 game.

Anything but a flush is a bluff. It's not even close.

Shoving for value. I also wonder if he misread his hand. Rampage never goes back to his hole cards what if he thought he had the A of diamonds

can u pls make a cap or tshirt with monkey tilt logo ?

I’m sure Brandon is a good dude but for some reason I hate his face. Lol

My game is just as bad as rampage now 😢

He could have had K just of diamonds for the straight flush and with the j of diamonds in his hand it's reasonable to think he could get a fold

Value

He has to be bluffing on the river. No way he's doing this for value.

Neither, he was clicking buttons

It was a bluff

Bro can't just call. 😢

Look rampage WAS great… he has been found out at the higher level, so he will fall back down to the 1/3 game with us all

Valuebetting vs KJ,TJ,QJ, is to thin, way to thin.

Rampage has always been a punter

That’s a classic terrible play that 1/3 players make. Just call with the straight.

get of the fence johnathan, its a horrible all-in

Mr. Little should have taught Rampage how to invest his money rather than to play poker...

pot was not even worth it

Rampage is bluffing. He may put Brandon on a mediocre flush.

Not -285k only half that

Mr. DONKEY 🫏

rampage playing like a spanierd, getting the bluff through is worth more than making money

They got al capone for not paying taxes😂😂😂😂....just saying. Rampage doesn't seem to have been blessed with Smarts.

rampage thought he had the best hand

I think Rampage is so focus on value bet his nut straight that he forget the board have potential flush out there until Brandon remind him

Rampage is massively overrated and nothing more than an action junky, it doesn't surprise me he's online begging for money when he plays like this. At worst this was a call. What hand did he expect to call his raise could he beat? (there isn't one)

Whoever is financing this disaster, please stop. You’re just enabling at this point. Let him go broke and learn his lesson.

Anyone that plays poker know he is chip dumping to the other player. And is using either stacked money or sub money. Such an old scam.

Such an embarrassment 🤦🧐 and people believe hes elite level 😂

Brandon worked it out himself when he said .... why would you check back the turn with a flush draw

Rampage lacks discipline and skills to be playing these stakes his post flop aggression only works vs timid players ...

Might as well go play slots blowing all his yt money destroying the reality of the game for his fan boys imo he is so cocky about his networth and saying it doesn’t matter this is a young man lol his channel won’t be doing well forever especially after this crap BLUFF of a play. Don’t learn poker from a manic millionaire who punts to the point of loosing millions or a hundred k is no biggy. Take your poker content seriously players and your br too! Gl out there

He has no respect for money. Not a good combo. Backers, no respect for money(backers) Punting bluffs to much. Just plain bad.

These streams suck.

clearly not a bluff with nut straight here, dubious jam but not the biggest punt in the world.

Value. Rampage thought it was a blocker bet by Brandon

Its easy to punt off money when your not playing with any of your own. Guy is the most irresponsible person with money on earth. That loan to some random idiot is mind numbing