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Rambling about Eurylochus’s music :D

Rambling about Eurylochus’s music :D #epicthemusical

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  • @H4UNT3D_F3RN
    @H4UNT3D_F3RNАй бұрын

    I love when Jay breaks the music down for us because I’m too busy going through emotional turmoil to realize how detailed everything is

  • @AnaghasNightingaleNotes

    @AnaghasNightingaleNotes

    Ай бұрын

    It’s so true

  • @JustABubbleTea

    @JustABubbleTea

    Ай бұрын

    If it wasn't for Jay I wouldn't even know the motifs 😭

  • @DrakeDragonton

    @DrakeDragonton

    Ай бұрын

    Wait, what’s the correlation of his rhythmic speech

  • @blue_phenix1364

    @blue_phenix1364

    Ай бұрын

    same I'm not really in the practice of like _analyzing_ music so it's really cool to be able to know the correlations without losing my mind lol

  • @blue_phenix1364

    @blue_phenix1364

    Ай бұрын

    @@DrakeDragonton I have absolutely no clue

  • @maryhales4595
    @maryhales4595Ай бұрын

    Obviously Mr. Jalapeño did an incredible job writing him, but let's give Armando Julián his flowers for really bringing Eurylochus to life in all of these sagas. He made the character a perfect foil to Odysseus in so many ways. I'm definitely going to miss him going forward in the show!!

  • @lindalaufer2949

    @lindalaufer2949

    Ай бұрын

    RIGHT hes so talented and did an amazing job portraying eurylochus, massive props to him

  • @safaiaryu12

    @safaiaryu12

    Ай бұрын

    Seriously. I'm genuinely sad he's not going to be in the rest. 😢

  • @dantevalehuntik28

    @dantevalehuntik28

    Ай бұрын

    Genuinely! The worst part about how the thunder saga ended is that we aren't gonna hear his voice again in the musical (unless Ody is haunted by his choice in later sagas)

  • @thelocalshoop

    @thelocalshoop

    Ай бұрын

    @@dantevalehuntik28 unfortunately now that hes the monster (rawr rawr rawr) i think not :(

  • @marcusoceifeiro7869

    @marcusoceifeiro7869

    Ай бұрын

    @@safaiaryu12You know… Maybe…Just MAYBE… We might actually hear him and Polites in the future song “600 Strike!” The name of the song REALLY opens a door to imense possibilities!

  • @MetalVannan
    @MetalVannanАй бұрын

    Eurylocus ' *held* ' a very special place in your heart, Jay.

  • @thatonegirlwithtoomanyfandoms

    @thatonegirlwithtoomanyfandoms

    Ай бұрын

    FOUL 💀

  • @Lifeispinecones

    @Lifeispinecones

    Ай бұрын

    Lmao- you did not

  • @anvithequarsonist

    @anvithequarsonist

    Ай бұрын

    NO. NO!

  • @ryladragons

    @ryladragons

    Ай бұрын

    RANCID 💀💀💀

  • @KalKreative

    @KalKreative

    Ай бұрын

    as someone who just listened to thunder bringer im hurt.

  • @NocturneRock
    @NocturneRockАй бұрын

    Not me answering the question out loud “THE GUITARR”

  • @kabartmatozu3791

    @kabartmatozu3791

    Ай бұрын

    İ DİD THE SAMEEEEEE 😭

  • @_-drowsy-_

    @_-drowsy-_

    Ай бұрын

    Like it’s fucking Dora the explorer 😭

  • @pimpamtrucutruku3873

    @pimpamtrucutruku3873

    Ай бұрын

    I'm guilty too😅

  • @fern_8729

    @fern_8729

    Ай бұрын

    I always end up responding to Jorge as if he were Dora the explorer 😭

  • @lena1915

    @lena1915

    Ай бұрын

    I did it too 🤣

  • @atbd7411
    @atbd7411Ай бұрын

    I like how Jay rambles on stuff like this as if he's not the *actual writer and creator* of the show

  • @mulchie2898

    @mulchie2898

    Ай бұрын

    TRUE

  • @Vibe_and_Vent_with_me

    @Vibe_and_Vent_with_me

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly lol 😂

  • @uprisingsun9105

    @uprisingsun9105

    Ай бұрын

    He's his own fanboy lol

  • @TheArtOfBeingANerd

    @TheArtOfBeingANerd

    Ай бұрын

    Everyone should be their own fan tbh

  • @yanghyungoo
    @yanghyungooАй бұрын

    Jay coming closer and closer to the screen vibing to the music as he aggressively sings "BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BABABABAP, BABABABAP BA-BA-BA BA BABABABA-" is an accurate depiction of EPIC fans.

  • @tumblingartist

    @tumblingartist

    Ай бұрын

    1:50

  • @IgnisInvicta

    @IgnisInvicta

    Ай бұрын

    for sure. along with fangirl screeching lol

  • @SheHitsLikeEcstasy
    @SheHitsLikeEcstasyАй бұрын

    DUDE THE WHOLE TENSION IN MUTINY WAS AWESOME! The shock from when Odysseus got stabbed (I think that's what happened) when I first listened though hit hard

  • @Burntbreadfromthecosmos

    @Burntbreadfromthecosmos

    Ай бұрын

    In the animatic during the livestream he does get stabbed! Not by Eurylochus but rather a crew member.

  • @_-drowsy-_

    @_-drowsy-_

    Ай бұрын

    Real I was so sure eury would die there

  • @RavenSutcliffe

    @RavenSutcliffe

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@_-drowsy-_took one more song 😂

  • @ivystephanotis

    @ivystephanotis

    Ай бұрын

    @@BurntbreadfromthecosmosI believe the crew member’s name was Perimedes, and then after his first line that goes back to the chorus of ‘Luck Runs Out’ the rest of the crew join in with him in questioning Odysseus’ leadership

  • @Pizza_Meme

    @Pizza_Meme

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ivystephanotis Perimedes also sung the line "captain, whats happening? What's trapped in that bag?", which is my favourite line in epic and therefore he is my favorite character

  • @jaynight15
    @jaynight15Ай бұрын

    The Thunder Saga hits so much harder when you remember that Eurylochus is married to Odysseus' sister. They're literally Brothers-in-law

  • @Hunter_Of_Artemis12

    @Hunter_Of_Artemis12

    Ай бұрын

    So that’s why Odysseus sings “don’t make me fight you brother”

  • @jaynight15

    @jaynight15

    Ай бұрын

    @@Hunter_Of_Artemis12 And how in Luck Runs Out, Eury says "You're like the brother, I could never do without" Though, despite them actually being related via marriage, both lined could also be interpreted as them simply just being Brothers In Arms

  • @lilyruyle379

    @lilyruyle379

    Ай бұрын

    That's insane!!! I didn't know that! This adds a whole new layer to everything!!!!!

  • @IgnisInvicta

    @IgnisInvicta

    Ай бұрын

    I had no clue they were brother-in-laws. This changes a lot.

  • @noodle1299
    @noodle1299Ай бұрын

    What Eurylochus said in Scylla broke my heart, I didn't expect him to do that lmao

  • @fleischsalat318

    @fleischsalat318

    Ай бұрын

    Fr. So many said they knew it because of Puppeteer, but when that dropped I always thought he wanted to talk to him like he did in Luck Runs Out but in private this time. Like he really wanted to talk about his fears and doubts. I didn't see THAT coming 🤦🏼‍♀️ Baka.

  • @abbycollins4820

    @abbycollins4820

    Ай бұрын

    @@fleischsalat318Same

  • @RavenSutcliffe

    @RavenSutcliffe

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@fleischsalat318SAME

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    LEAVING THEM FEELING BETRAYED 😭😔💔

  • @MarcyStevonshy

    @MarcyStevonshy

    Ай бұрын

    @@fleischsalat318same!!! I was gagged when he said what he did in Scylla 😭

  • @Emimilliemoo
    @EmimilliemooАй бұрын

    I love Eurylochus so much, too, and after thunder saga, I've gone into full-blown analysis mode for his character. I have been contemplating how he parallels Odysseus and his character arc is kind of Odysseus' but in reverse with him starting out more ruthless to protect the crew but actually starting to greet the world with open arms after Circe and how Odysseus inspired that in him by saving the crew without the need for such violence and sacrifice and how him killing the cow seems to mirror Odysseus killing the infant. Eurylochus is such a fantastic and fascinating character to me, and I'd love even more from him, RIP Eurylochus 🙏.

  • @masterhazrond

    @masterhazrond

    Ай бұрын

    He reflects Odysseus, but one thing i've noticed is that in his decision making he reflects negatively. Where Ody's decisions are generally the only correct option to move forwards (regardless of how they make him feel), the things that Eurylochus does are usually ultimately the *wrong* move. Eurylochus wants to raid the island and take the food (which would have lead to the men eating lotus). Eurylochus questions Odysseus infront of the entire crew openly and sows unneeded dissent. Eurylochus opens the bag and unleashes the storm. Eurylochus wants to run away and leave the men to die. Each time he makes or tries to make a decision he chooses *poorly* and this culminates in his invocation of Odysseus' phrase "I'm Just A Man" where when Odysseus says that phrase he ultimately makes the *right* decision even when it causes himself pain. Meanwhile Eurylochus invokes "I'm Just A Man" and then slaughters Apollo's cow, making the *wrong* decision that he thinks will ease his pain, but that ultimately dooms himself and the rest of the crew.

  • @Emimilliemoo

    @Emimilliemoo

    Ай бұрын

    @masterhazrond YESS YES HE IS LIKE AN INVERSION OF ODYSSEUS you put it so well I'm so happy to see someone else go into this thank you 😊

  • @Zylber7

    @Zylber7

    Ай бұрын

    @@masterhazrondJust so people know, the Sun God in this case is Helios, not Apollo

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@masterhazrondOdysseus' decisions being correct are sometimes the result of luck, even if not always. For example, the help he received from Hermes was crucial, otherwise he might have endangered the crew.

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@masterhazrondNow, the decision of sacrificing six men is not objectively the correct one, because while he is willing to pay any price to get home, most of the crew would much rather have their brothers live then to get home at the cost of their lives, because they are more personally connected to each other then Odysseus is.

  • @Ekiaio
    @EkiaioАй бұрын

    I really love Eurylochus’s voice because it sounds so confident and nice. I also like that in Mutiny that when he gets more angry all of the instruments in the background get more intense and louder.

  • @Hana_H
    @Hana_HАй бұрын

    The way I said "ELECTRIC GUITAR!!" like a small child answering a question and being all "haha I´m so smart" about it when Jay asked about which instrument backs Eurylochus up in Mutiny XD

  • @ChasehaWing
    @ChasehaWingАй бұрын

    I love Eurylochus. He was such a layered and interesting character. You even gave him the moral high ground when he turns to mutiny, which is rare for any mutiny scene. He didn't even kill Odysseous when he could! He knocked him out and called him "Odi" when he woke up despite Odysseous attempting to kill him. In fact, he wasn't mad about Odysseous trying to kill HIM. He was mad about the 6 men Odysseous sacrificed. His first lines were about food and the concern for hia crew...and he died a starving man unable to feed his crew...😢 He is such a tragic character!!! You completely upgraded him from the original version!

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, even if he is a coward he has learned to stand up for his brothers ever since Puppeteer. I always felt like Odysseus' speech made him feel even worse than he already felt about the windbag, so it motivated him to not let anyone die. It was a turning point to his character just like the meeting with the prophet was a turning point to Odysseus

  • @ChasehaWing

    @ChasehaWing

    Ай бұрын

    @@yay29823 He wanted to prevent death since Polites TT-TT. After what happened with the cyclops and Poseidon, he really didn't want to lose anyone else. Neither he, Odysseous nor any of the crew knew magic, so they couldn't turn the men back. He had no idea Odysseous could convince her to turn them back. His flaw was he was not nearly knowledgeable enough of this world to lead. He was too aggressive when he needed to be softer, and too soft when he needed to be aggressive. He was the voice of the crew, which sadly meant he was too much of a follower to take command...

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    @@ChasehaWing Oh Polites :( Imagine being in his shoes. He has doubts, so he opens the bag, and instantly recognizes his mistake but it's already too late. 557 men die because of this. I think after that, his guilt was so much that he doubled down on trying to protect the crew, especially after what Odysseus told him in Puppeteer "There's no length I wouldn't go if it was you I had to save" 😭. I know Polites had a strong impact, but I truly believe that moment in the Circe Saga was THE moment for him

  • @AlexDMast
    @AlexDMastАй бұрын

    I love how Jay always reacts to his own music as if someone else wrote it and hes just in awe

  • @thegodofquacc5432
    @thegodofquacc5432Ай бұрын

    Short #3 of asking Mr. Jalapeno man if the Chorus of No Longer you is directly connected to the Choir at end of it.

  • @niroshanaperera7330

    @niroshanaperera7330

    Ай бұрын

    Given how they line up so perfectly, It would have to be a massive coincidence if the connection wasn't deliberate

  • @Lariatt

    @Lariatt

    Ай бұрын

    Given Tiresias sees both Present and Future, it's entirely likely the chorus reflects events of the past and those that happen in the future (aka Thunder Saga).

  • @orion5914

    @orion5914

    Ай бұрын

    In one of Jorge's videos, (having trouble find it now) he says that the choir singing is teasing the rest of the events in act 2. The first ones chanting "Siren song", "Scylla throat" , "Mutiny" , and "Lightning bolt", teasing the Thunder saga. The other chants hint at the other sagas but he obviously hasnt revealed them yet.

  • @Lariatt

    @Lariatt

    Ай бұрын

    @@orion5914 They're talking about the chorus "I see a song of past romance, ect"! Theyre wanting to know if that was about the events in Thunder Saga as well.

  • @LoreCatan

    @LoreCatan

    Ай бұрын

    @@Lariatt It was! "I see a song of past romance" - Suffering "I see the sacrifice of man" - Different Beast "I see portrayals of betrayal" - Scylla "And a brother's final stand" - Mutiny Though you could argue "sacrifice of man" is for Scylla, "Betrayal" is Mutiny and "Brother's final stand" is Thunder Bringer, which would mean Different Beast got skipped. I'm not completely sure, since "I see you on the brink of death" could be Thunder Bringer considering the visuals of Ody falling into the water with the others. But it could also just be the next song, as it's aftermath. Either way, the No Longer You chorus (and backing chanting) totally foreshadowed what happened in this saga and it continues to foreshadow the rest of Epic.

  • @kincrimsonnugget
    @kincrimsonnuggetАй бұрын

    We love Eurylochus "playing" the crew mates Sidenote: I love the character development thing with Eurylochus' insteuments

  • @nightdust9724
    @nightdust9724Ай бұрын

    I am madly in love with Eurylochus' entrance in 'Full Speed Ahead'. The bass! 😍 And 'Luck Runs Out' is my absolute favourite.

  • @ahumanperson3615
    @ahumanperson3615Ай бұрын

    he feels like the genuine humanity of the crew, yk?

  • @Devilspade

    @Devilspade

    Ай бұрын

    no the humanity was poly, he's just the voice of the crew which is also symbolic because the crew themselves are hypocritical in what they want to keep themselves alive which is why eury is all over the place as a character he was fine with leaving behind men before but not anymore. i will say arguably eury was willing to let more people die cause it was a whole squad but actually having to sacrifice people as part of your plan instead of leaving them behind is morally different idk, IT'S THE TROLLY

  • @runefaustblack

    @runefaustblack

    Ай бұрын

    All its humanity, including its idiocy

  • @GalaxyEViolet

    @GalaxyEViolet

    Ай бұрын

    I honestly see it like this: Odysseus is the mind and smarts of the crew Polites is their heart, aka compassion and humanity. Eurylochus is the body and the necessary needs for survival.

  • @ked49

    @ked49

    Ай бұрын

    @@GalaxyEVioletonce poly dies their compassion does as well.

  • @CatOnFire

    @CatOnFire

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@DevilspadeEurylochus was willing to leave behind the men who had been turned into pigs because they had been transformed by magic that none of the crew understood. It may very well have been permanent and irreversible for all they knew. No one knew the danger until they had already lost men to Circe, so no one actively chose to lose them. Trying to save them would have put the rest of the crew at risk and was likely to accomplish nothing. In Scylla, the crew wouldn't have been at risk if Odysseus hadn't knowingly chosen to go through Scylla's lair. Odysseus knew beforehand that six men would need to die, and he did so intentionally. In the first case, Eurylochus is trying to save as many men as he knows how and he got upset when Odysseus ignored him and went to challenge Circe anyway. In the second case, Odysseus knowingly caused some of his own men to die for a chance to get home, so Eury got upset. Both events make sense for Eurylochus' character.

  • @itznatalieyt7785
    @itznatalieyt7785Ай бұрын

    I love how passionate he is about these stories and songs! You can totally tell just how much thought is put into each song and album by all the singers and the instruments! Its so cool to watch everything unfold

  • @washingtub7111
    @washingtub7111Ай бұрын

    Ive been seeing a lot of hate for this character since the thunder sagas release, especially on tiktok, and im so glad you made this. People call him a hypocrite, but if you look at WHY he said the lines in both puppeteer and mutiny, his primary motive for not just those moments, but throughout the entire show is putting the crew above the mission itself, which naturally makes him a foil to odysseus.

  • @feniaksfirings

    @feniaksfirings

    Ай бұрын

    Except when he wanted to abandon the men pigified by Circe!! But I do agree with you otherwise he speaks for the crew - even in killing Helios’ cattle. I can also give him credit that he is willing to or it seems he is willing to accept the punishment for eating the cattle and not fighting against it the way some of the others were. (Based partially on animatics tbh)

  • @z33b33s

    @z33b33s

    Ай бұрын

    @@feniaksfirings Actually, even with Circe, Eurylochus wants to abandon the captured/turned men because of the rest of the crew! One of his lines is "Think about the men we have left before there are none". He doesn't think that Circe can be killed or beaten, so he doesn't see a way to save the pig-men and is worried about Odysseus + the remaining crew being harmed by her.

  • @feniaksfirings

    @feniaksfirings

    Ай бұрын

    @@z33b33s True!

  • @abbycollins4820

    @abbycollins4820

    Ай бұрын

    @@feniaksfiringsExactly!!!

  • @masterhazrond

    @masterhazrond

    Ай бұрын

    You say he puts the crew above the mission itself, but the mission itself IS the crew. I don't really see how he can hope that just giving up will somehow lead to Poseidon giving them mercy. Him opening the bag did nothing to help the crew, he just doubted Odysseus' intentions for basically no good reason (and because of that he ruined their only chance to escape a confrontation with Poseidon). After that point of confrontation there was no chance of the crew's survival unless they managed to evade Poseidon, and he never worked towards that goal in any way besides letting Odysseus come up with the plans. While Eurylochus *in theory* cares about the crew, all of his plans and his actions were ones that would have lead to their deaths (and ultimately *did* once Odysseus was unable to stop him from executing one such plan).

  • @disneybunny45
    @disneybunny45Ай бұрын

    I know that most musicians/ composers are passionate about their work, but man its something else to see it in their faces. Jay is so passionate and happy about Epic. I am glad that he's getting the praise and attention he deserves.

  • @DuckDrawz
    @DuckDrawzАй бұрын

    I love eurylochus’s part in all songs, especially luck runs out.

  • @dantevalehuntik28
    @dantevalehuntik28Ай бұрын

    Any opportunity to hear Eury's voice again, his singer (I. Cannot remember his name for the life of me i just know his voice is probably my favourite) is definitely one of the highlights of the whole project and i hope he knows how much we all love his work

  • @winters_revolt

    @winters_revolt

    Ай бұрын

    His name is Armando Julian

  • @KevinFlowersJr

    @KevinFlowersJr

    29 күн бұрын

    And it would be amazing to see a saga origin story of him (with Armando Julian as the vocalist, ofc)

  • @anvithequarsonist
    @anvithequarsonistАй бұрын

    1:53 truly poetic, well said Mr. Jalapeño

  • @turningintoacrazydolphin1211
    @turningintoacrazydolphin1211Ай бұрын

    Everytime Jay says "have you noticed" I started singing "who's missing? Have you noticed the prince is not around"

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    I heard he's gone on a diplomatic mission 😈

  • @yay29823

    @yay29823

    Ай бұрын

    I heard today he comes back to town, so... 😃🔪

  • @pentaholic1016

    @pentaholic1016

    Ай бұрын

    I say we gather near the beaches ⛱️

  • @malixsama340

    @malixsama340

    Ай бұрын

    I say, we wait till he arrives 👀👀

  • @Screaming.Crying.BeepBoop

    @Screaming.Crying.BeepBoop

    27 күн бұрын

    Then, when he docks his ship, we can breach it⚓️

  • @cyber_runner
    @cyber_runnerАй бұрын

    Everytime he shows up, it gives me a chance to fall more in love with his character ^^

  • @sketchy4123
    @sketchy4123Ай бұрын

    The "Danger is Nearby" motif comment made me remember that I looked through all the songs from this saga for it (since there was a lot of danger in this one 😭), and I THINK this is the most times it's shown up in a saga? I counted four times, so in all songs except "Different Beast" (but by that point, I was a bit tired, so I skipped through and could've missed it). It was just something interesting I noticed, especially because in some songs, I think it repeats showing different dangers in both Odysseus AND in his foe. This musical is so cool to think about 😤💙

  • @danieldavid3766

    @danieldavid3766

    Ай бұрын

    I don’t remember it appearing in Suffering?

  • @sketchy4123

    @sketchy4123

    Ай бұрын

    @danieldavid3766 It's at the very beginning of the song. I noticed the same repeating notes and then the one that's held right before the danger appears (Siren Penelope speaking). As always, I could totally be wrong, but the pattern sounded the same to me, just with a different instrument/effect ofc.

  • @Hades_0011

    @Hades_0011

    Ай бұрын

    The chorus from Thunder bringer is sung as the danger motif for the vocal melody! “Thunder bring her through the ringer/Thunder bringer here to wring your”

  • @LittleWeirdo-xq9ie
    @LittleWeirdo-xq9ieАй бұрын

    I love how he sounds like me rambling about my hyper fixations…. EXCEPT HE LITERALLY CREATED THIS BEAUTIFUL MUSICAL-

  • @Helio_trooper76
    @Helio_trooper76Ай бұрын

    I actually find this so cool. The clever way Jay uses music to describe characters, and the repetition of certain motifs and melodies to pull the whole thing together is genuinely so interesting to me. I actually can't explain how long I've spent thinking about his music, and it's insane how clever Jay is with his songwriting. ❤

  • @Dorgaffe
    @DorgaffeАй бұрын

    THIS! THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE REASON EPIC IS MY FAVOURITE MUSICAL! Every little detail has a meaning, everything is significant, there are no placeholders! Like how the start of The Horse and The Infant comes back in Monster, and it also comes back in Mutiny! The reprise of these small bits that seem unimportant at first is genius!

  • @CosmicTheWeb
    @CosmicTheWebАй бұрын

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN EPIC EURY ORIGIN STORY OKGOGKGG

  • @Phasmania
    @PhasmaniaАй бұрын

    Eurylochus is my favorite character in EPIC, Mutiny + Thunderbringer was sooo good but so depressing. I appreciate how well you wrote Eurylochus’ character compared to what I know about his Odyssey version. I personally think he’s the best written in EPIC :) Also I would LOVE a Eurylochus prequel/DLC expansion pack lol

  • @CadiaMichal
    @CadiaMichalАй бұрын

    You DEFINITELY should make a saga for him!!!

  • @Nolonger_
    @Nolonger_Ай бұрын

    I love how jay explains the songs like he didn’t just compose the entire thing and he’s just a super fan with access to the different instruments and stuff in the song

  • @angelab8418
    @angelab8418Ай бұрын

    Armando's voice acting and singing throughout the sagas was SO good! I agree with what another commenter on here said, he really brought the character to life! He carried Eurylocus' thoughts and emotions so well in his performance

  • @greenflame2425
    @greenflame2425Ай бұрын

    I feel like Jay could make a epic DND campaign from epic to either play with his friends or make a preset campaign

  • @-My-Alter-Ego-
    @-My-Alter-Ego-Ай бұрын

    Yeah, I noticed the electric guitar in mutiny and wondered how that correlated to the story. I love these videos explaining the storytelling of the music

  • @PasteltheRooster
    @PasteltheRoosterАй бұрын

    I can’t believe how much EPIC has grown! I remember when I joined the Winion community, it was just before the Ocean Saga released, although I did know what the musical was when the Troy Saga came out. Thank you for sharing your talent with us Mr Jalapeño!!

  • @safaiaryu12

    @safaiaryu12

    Ай бұрын

    I also joined right before the Ocean Saga! 😮

  • @PasteltheRooster

    @PasteltheRooster

    Ай бұрын

    @@safaiaryu12REALLY?! OMG I have an EPIC twin?!

  • @ArtemisTheHunter
    @ArtemisTheHunterАй бұрын

    The fact that Eurylochus's main "instrument" is the crew's voices and how he feels like he needs to protect them makes it all the more heart breaking that he was the one to opening the wind bag which killed the most people by far.

  • @MiraStarLight
    @MiraStarLightАй бұрын

    The way you use music to identify characters is so cool especially in the thunder saga which has become my favourite i absolutely love your music and it brings me a lot of joy thank you!!

  • @Arisorio
    @ArisorioАй бұрын

    I loved all the call backs in mutiny, it is like everything that has happened so far, lead to exactly this moment!

  • @VegaTheLyra
    @VegaTheLyraАй бұрын

    Jorge, you are a musical genius, I swear, whenever I think EPIC can't get any better, you just proceed to blow my mind again

  • @megangilbert3112
    @megangilbert3112Ай бұрын

    Eurylochus is a hero to fight for the rights of his men against his friend when his friend goes desperate. He really reminds me of the character Aguni from Netflix's Alice in Borderland series, only Aguni is a darkside version... Also, just the thrill you feel when Voices unite in a passionate outcry! It's beautiful and scary all at once and always gives me the goosebumps lol

  • @N3k0manc3rT0r1
    @N3k0manc3rT0r1Ай бұрын

    I also see Eurylochus acting as the main voice of the crew. especially when they echo him. He's the voice of the crew to Ody in my interpretation, not just protector.

  • @Plutoliketheplanet
    @PlutoliketheplanetАй бұрын

    I love Eurylochus a lot, and since the thunder saga ⛈️ I've been fighting for my life defending him. Obviously, he's not perfect, but I think so many people are blaming everything on him.

  • @dragonfly._.doodles
    @dragonfly._.doodlesАй бұрын

    1:22 I don’t have the musical ear enough to catch all of these things but man when you explain them it sends me kicking my feet and giggling

  • @Arycot0070
    @Arycot0070Ай бұрын

    Epic the musical is so detailed great job m. Jalapeño

  • @Space-nj5vt
    @Space-nj5vtАй бұрын

    Mr jalapeño thank you thank u so much I was actually in the worst times of my life but ur music and songs comforted me and I discovered that I love Greek mythology so thank u again I hope u see this and realize how much I appreciate you

  • @Vivi-nc5uz
    @Vivi-nc5uzАй бұрын

    The story telling you weave into the music is always so awe inspiring and I always find myself listening so closely to each song to see if I can pick up on these details!

  • @wielderofspoons
    @wielderofspoonsАй бұрын

    I adore how you tie the motifs and use it to weave the story. The first thing thst struck me about Eurylochus was how his voice was dictated and melded with the crews voices to affirm his awkward position as second in command. Your attention to detail is beautiful ❤️

  • @Choomzy116
    @Choomzy116Ай бұрын

    I love the duality of Luck Runs Out and Mutiny. Especially the parts where Eurylocus and Odysseus get involved with the gods. Odysseus asks the gods for assistance and they grant it, and then Eurylocus disturbs the gods, resulting in a plethora of consequences.

  • @AmberMetallicScorpion
    @AmberMetallicScorpionАй бұрын

    i absolutely love these videos and hearing about all the choices behind different characters and how to make them work in a song, cause like, if you told me "well actually every major character gets their own instrument, and you only hear it during their hype moments" i'd think "these are going to be really busy and distracting songs" but no, they work so well together it's insane. Everyone involved in this project deserves so much praise because holy hell the amount of effort put in on things most people won't even notice. like Athena starting with a high tone mind, then embracing Ody's run, before going back to high tone when rejecting him. or these unique instruments

  • @ChaosEXE_was_here_XOXO
    @ChaosEXE_was_here_XOXOАй бұрын

    Mr. Jalapeno, I love how you go in depth of every character's music! It's awesome and SUPER brilliant!

  • @GalaxyEViolet
    @GalaxyEVioletАй бұрын

    Eurylochus is one my favorite characters in EPIC! Thank you for breaking down the music he's represented with. Also, the fact that he feels lost but takes comfort with his crew really explains his motivations further in the story, especially in Mutiny. I like to think he's like a mother to Odysseus' crew. Also, I would love to see an origin story for Eurylochus and see why he's become the way he is, how he met Odysseus and Polites, how he courted his wife, etc. That would be such a cool saga! 😊❤

  • @landobridgeman
    @landobridgemanАй бұрын

    I truly adore Eurylochus so this is absolutely insanity and amazing to learn

  • @Astr0n1ty_M00n
    @Astr0n1ty_M00nАй бұрын

    Absolutely love the rambling Mr. Jalapeño says when explaining his talents in music-making

  • @pensrule1194
    @pensrule1194Ай бұрын

    The amount of detail that goes into everything from the lines the instruments and the melody is the exact reason I love epic just knowing that every little thing is important and involved

  • @MildlyPerturbed
    @MildlyPerturbedАй бұрын

    I’d love a Eury side DLC album!! I would love for “Man of the House” to be on it!

  • @Amelia-0126
    @Amelia-0126Ай бұрын

    I live for how much time and effort Jay puts into bringing these characters to life and giving them backstories and motifs and reasons 🙏

  • @Beatrice_Oiris
    @Beatrice_OirisАй бұрын

    OHH I LOVE EURYLOCHUS (and the sound of the crew) and I was so sad when he died. YES PLEASE ORIGIN STORY NOW

  • @Fruitloop14
    @Fruitloop14Ай бұрын

    Mutiny is definitely one of my favorite songs in the Thunder Saga. I love Eury so much definitely one of my favorites, sad he’s dead lol ❤🎉😊

  • @legitlyspelunking
    @legitlyspelunkingАй бұрын

    Oohh I noticed the guitar coming in at that part but didn't fully acknowledge how it was Eurylocus in charge! And the danger motif aahh so much big-brain work went into this saga it's unbelievable ❤

  • @DefNotAalyah
    @DefNotAalyahАй бұрын

    I love eurelacus (I have no idea how to spell it) he’s such a good character

  • @owlbearings2151

    @owlbearings2151

    Ай бұрын

    eurylochus also i agree

  • @Book_Reader1
    @Book_Reader1Ай бұрын

    Oh my goodness, these types of videos are SO INTERESTING! I love hearing you talk about the meanings of specific motifs and stuff in these songs, and it’s clear a lot of thought and love has gone into all of this! Good job, mister sir! (Eurylocus DLC would go hard)

  • @Bolt_Chaser
    @Bolt_ChaserАй бұрын

    One cannot fathom how much i would love a Eurylochus sub-saga. That man's been my favorite voice since Full Speed Ahead.

  • @sopand2489
    @sopand2489Ай бұрын

    I Adore both Eurylocus and Polites as charactised in Epic and I would LOVE to see more of either or both characters. I did notice the guitar felt Wrong for Eurylocus in Mutiny, but this laid out exactly Why is felt so off. I also love his style of singing and how his 'intriment' really does tie into the one thing he knows about himself: He has to protect the crew, and he is Odysseus's second in command. I LOVE that about him. He and Odysseus's exchange in Luck Runs Out is actually Almost enough to make it my favourite part of the Ocean Saga with Ruthlessness inly just pulling ahead of it.

  • @the_one6197
    @the_one6197Ай бұрын

    The part on Helios' island in mutiny, is for me, the saddest and heart-wrenching song in epic so far! The emotions protrayed by the singers were spot on to make anybody cry 😭😭

  • @GrassPotati
    @GrassPotatiАй бұрын

    I love the amount of thought you put behind every little thing in Epic, it’s really astonishing and inspirational

  • @bookdragon3455
    @bookdragon345523 күн бұрын

    I love how excited Jay gets when talking about his work. I hope that one day I’ll be able to harness that same happiness over my work

  • @Kief.Icarus
    @Kief.IcarusАй бұрын

    I love storytelling over the actual story itself. YOU SIR are the master storyteller!

  • @TotalBookworm57
    @TotalBookworm57Ай бұрын

    I love everything you do with the instruments! Though I have to admit if we get Eurylochus lore we will love it but then cry when we remember he dies with the rest of the crew in Thunder Bringer lol 😂 😭. Can’t wait to hear more from this musical and channel!!!!! 💕

  • @loftydabird54
    @loftydabird54Ай бұрын

    He was my favorite character man 😭 Armando did such a great job. I'm really gonna miss hearing him

  • @staticforce5367
    @staticforce5367Ай бұрын

    i love watching people nerd out about the things they love

  • @Red_Knightly
    @Red_KnightlyАй бұрын

    I absolutely adore you explaining how you breakdown music and use it for storytelling. It scratches an itch in my brain and makes me want to create, thank you!

  • @ricekrispies1917
    @ricekrispies1917Ай бұрын

    Hearing how excited you get about the details in reoccuring music motifs is honestly infectious, I love it 😆😊

  • @TimothytheTurtlesaurus
    @TimothytheTurtlesaurusАй бұрын

    Eurylochus is honestly my favorite character in epic

  • @kappuccinokat
    @kappuccinokatАй бұрын

    Wait I would love a eurylochus prequel that would be incredible 😭❤️

  • @ria2335
    @ria2335Ай бұрын

    I LOVE Eurylochus!! Thank you so much for this ramble! And 👀👀👀 Prequel saga? 👀👀👀

  • @Stephatuation
    @StephatuationАй бұрын

    I love so so much how much recalling occurred with the thunder saga!!! all the call backs, the shoe on the other foot, everything about it gets me so giddy!!!

  • @bunnycat5552
    @bunnycat5552Ай бұрын

    I understand the feeling of having that one oc that you just really like working with, (as much as he's not totally an oc but yeah), it's very inspiring seeing you talk about Eurylochus and how excited you get. Makes me happy to know that people across all types of creative mediums have these moments

  • @e4rtis
    @e4rtisАй бұрын

    I love how you talk about your musical like it's not yours, and at the same time like it's your baby 💕

  • @fleischsalat318
    @fleischsalat318Ай бұрын

    I love that you give us the insights of all characters or processes in creating the music, lyrics or characters ❤❤❤

  • @mynamejeff9037
    @mynamejeff9037Ай бұрын

    I’m not musically capable enough to really find and correlate these details on my own but it’s awesome to see that it’s there

  • @ravenrose_99
    @ravenrose_99Ай бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE hearing about all of the symbolism hidden within the music for each of the characters! I hadn't realized a guitar starts playing when Eurylochus initiates the mutiny! Like I had heard it but I hadn't put two and two together! SO COOL!!! I seriously love that kind of storytelling so much! You seriously are so creative and overall inspiring with your passion for EPIC! Genuinely incredible! Can not wait to hear more!!

  • @shadowcat5939
    @shadowcat5939Ай бұрын

    I love that not only are all the songs just amazing but they also have so much fun techal work that gives them both extra depth and a song feeling of musical continuity ❤❤❤

  • @Star_Entropy
    @Star_EntropyАй бұрын

    Wowowow we might get a Eurylochus short saga with backstory???? It’s a good day to have Eurylochus as my favourite caracther

  • @Jakobaker
    @JakobakerАй бұрын

    I love the thought you put into this! Im blown away everytime

  • @MildlyPerturbed
    @MildlyPerturbedАй бұрын

    If Eury gets a prequel album, I’d love to see Ctimene be introduced!!

  • @patraeve
    @patraeveАй бұрын

    I would be SAT for a Eury origin saga!!! He seems like such a conflicted character (probably cause he feels a little lost) it’d be so interesting to see what he’s been through to get to the character we have in epic!

  • @sunnyyyyy2222
    @sunnyyyyy2222Ай бұрын

    I think a insight into eurylochus' character would be interesting, especially from you since you convey each character so uniquely

  • @dragonfly._.doodles
    @dragonfly._.doodlesАй бұрын

    0:54 “which he does his best to protect” Mr Jalapeño said while giggling to himself-

  • @Kat_Tube
    @Kat_TubeАй бұрын

    Your passion is so inspiring as someone who wants to start songwriting, I always get encouraged when you talk about your writing processes. Thank you so much for your work!

  • @DanyMonavel
    @DanyMonavelАй бұрын

    These are my favorite type of videos. I love it when Jorge explains the music and his reasoning

  • @emeliesemeralds2811
    @emeliesemeralds2811Ай бұрын

    “I have all this like- *lore* for him in my head!” -Jay and literally every creator ever 😂💚

  • @sereinthehuman5138
    @sereinthehuman5138Ай бұрын

    r.i.p eury you were an occasional real one 🙏

  • @abbycollins4820

    @abbycollins4820

    Ай бұрын

    R.I.P

  • @Ekami-chan
    @Ekami-chanАй бұрын

    Eurylochus was so awesome in thunder saga, yes give us his lore! "Use your wits to try to say I'm crazy and mad!" Broke me, that and Eurylochus calling Odysseus Ody and his friend even after the fight 😭

  • @FoxTrot40
    @FoxTrot40Ай бұрын

    I could listen to Jay ramble all day about Epic, I always learn something new and freak out about it too. Currently I’m obsessed with the music behind Zeus and why his electric bass/brass combo sounds so perfect, would love to hear some rambling about that ❤

  • @portsyde3466
    @portsyde3466Ай бұрын

    I was just thinking about how my favorite songs so far (Underworld, Full Speed Ahead, Luck Runs Out, Storm, etc) are the ones with amazing choruses and harmonies. It's probably why I like Eurylochus so much as well.

  • @MCpro229
    @MCpro229Ай бұрын

    Okay but the thoughtfulness behind EVERYTHING in this musical... There's just SO MUCH COOL MEANING BRO

  • @lilimajor3797
    @lilimajor3797Ай бұрын

    It’s such a marvel to me how much easter eggs there are in these songs! It’s so cool that Eurylochus kinda steals Ody’s instrument for a moment there. It’s very interesting how he’s not really grounded, he doesn’t exactly have his own instrument; so we definitely need his origin story😈