Power Wagon and Tremor are great names. But if Chevy were to make an off-road package for the 2500 HD, what should it be called? Read our full comparison here: www.edmunds.com/truck/articles/ford-tremor-vs-ram-power-wagon/

@michaeljordan4571

3 жыл бұрын

you guys are bad at your jobs

@Jack_Rabbit_Ranch

3 жыл бұрын

Fart

@Rockdaground

3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Y’all did a great job.

Why wouldn’t you compare the Ram with the 7.3 gaser the price would be closer plus numbers would be closer

@CraigularjJoeWoodworks

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@dannyluelee

3 жыл бұрын

Yea this is not apples to apples. Would’ve enjoyed seeing the 7.3 comparison more.

@tategreer883

3 жыл бұрын

Agree on 7.3 gas completely. Today’s diesels engines(while insanely powered) are unreliable, overpriced, and will wear out prematurely. Still a lot of great info for individual applications regardless of engine. To each his own, and both cool trucks. Love seeing the pushrod V8 prevail

@slamsshenanigans2296

3 жыл бұрын

Ya this was apples to oranges, if you want to tow at all you laugh at the ram...

@jeffunderwood3142

3 жыл бұрын

very first thing I thought....This is a stupid comparison ....Diesel to gas...... Congrats youve made your vid useless guys.

Apples and oranges. These two trucks weren't even close trim wise. At least compare them both with gas motors.

@blueschild61

3 жыл бұрын

More like Apples and Chicken Nuggets. Completely different animals. They shouldn't have even bothered.

@zonacrs

3 жыл бұрын

@Jack njones Exactly. Then why compare it to a diesel Super Duty? Should have both been gassers for a true comparison.

@zonacrs

3 жыл бұрын

@Jack njones Not wanting to get into a gas engine debate. Original reply was meant to point out that the comparison is not valid since they compared a diesel truck to a gas truck in vastly different trims. Compare two gas trims for fucks sake. Extra bonus if they are at least close in trim level. These two trucks may as well be from different planets from a comparison standpoint.

@JO-ly3hi

3 жыл бұрын

@Jack njones *their

@gregberban7067

3 жыл бұрын

They are both gas engines

Chevy has literally left the chat.

@theprfesssor

3 жыл бұрын

They never entered it, GM to scared to throw it's hat into the heavy-duty offroad truck battle they took forever getting into the offroad truck segment in general ( and RAM has had only the Power Wagon forever, TRX is still a ways off)

@kanon0853

3 жыл бұрын

Theprfesssor TRX is being reviled in 5 days. Check out Ram’s KZread page.

@amolinari9

3 жыл бұрын

Theprfesssor TRX is here baby!!!

@newsnowtwincities9331

3 жыл бұрын

Chevy was never in the conversation and it's only been recently that Ford was even mentioned.

@zachconant7031

3 жыл бұрын

News Now Twin Cities what do you mean? The power wagon is cool but it can’t compare to something like the Raptor.

Correction: the Ford DOES have a locking rear differential, it comes standard with a Tremor or FX4 package. You pull on the 4-wheel drive knob and it locks the rear diff (there's literally a diagram of it right next to the knob). It's a real locker, not a limited slip. #TheMoreYouKnow

@TheHitSquadOffroad

3 жыл бұрын

The front is lsd.

The Tremor needs the 7.3 with out the max tow package for this comparison.

@michaelalcocer6778

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The deciding factor a for them ended up being options they could have controlled for in the comparison.

@ReticentIndignation

3 жыл бұрын

Yep...kinda dumb they compare the diesel which is already more than $8K over the 7.3 Godzilla engine.

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

The 7.3 tremor is an entirely different truck, the power stroke truck is really heavy. It compares to offroading a cummins ram the 800 pounds less on the front axle is alot

@rxonmymind8362

3 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with a 6.2 V8 gasser in a Tremor?

It seems like the tremor only finished second based on price. The platinum I priced out was $73k. All that tech with trail control and cameras is on my tremor that I ordered for $60k. As for rock crawling the approach departure breakover on the big trucks will stop the trail far before the need of a sway disconnect.

@eighteennakedcowboys

3 жыл бұрын

First of all... diesels are too heavy which is why Ford is pointless. No winch and no lockers either. Not even comparable trucks

@michaelm1105

3 жыл бұрын

R sr Tremor has standard with rear locker and comes with with optional winch from the factory.

@extspence

2 жыл бұрын

I have done many trails in the Power Wagon and have used the sway bar disconnect for a good number of them. Added 35" tires to the Power Wagon and solved some of the ground clearance problems. I wish it could haul/tow more. For trails it has been a surprise to what it can do. Will be adding rock rails and a better rear bumper. Took them both out on a trail following some jeeps.

@VT990

2 жыл бұрын

@@eighteennakedcowboys the tremor handled everything the Ram did and has way better towing and payload capacity and fords are just generally better trucks. I’ll take the tremor.

@backyrdbully3276

2 жыл бұрын

@@eighteennakedcowboys 7.3L

1. People who buy the Superduty (especially with the diesel) are wanting to do a fair amount of hauling and pulling. The 4 grand Tremor up grade is a small price to make your truck more versatile. 2. People looking to do a fair amount of off-roading and little or lite hauling will go for the Raptor. 3. I've owned one Dodge truck (bought new) NEVER AGAIN.

@shawnriddle3018

3 жыл бұрын

I owned a Ford that burned to the ground. one of its multi million famous Fire recalls. On my second Ram will never buy or park a ford close to work or home.

I bought a powerwagon since I dont do much towing. We do more family roadtrips where camp or airbnb and then use the truck to go into destinations not reachable to most. The truck is spacious, rides comfortably, and has all the tech inside and out that we need. The price I pay is 10MPG and current gas prices. But that's why we call em smiles per gallon in this community.

Completely pointless test. The Ford has a Diesel. Where is the 7.3L gas Ford engine? That would be a head a head test.

Wow! Great video, team! I never realized how much I needed a big pickup truck in my life! 😂

Hey guys awesome video. I can only imagine it takes a lot of work by many to create such a high quality video...its much appreciated I can assure y'all

Nice video and format. YES, I agree that the Power Wagon would be the preferred off-road truck. However, if I had to tow more than 10,300 lbs, then the Tremor gets the nod. Seems very very capable...and with the XLT package and 7.3L gas, might even be cost effective. Merci

Edmunds reviews are awesome!!! Thanks guys

Any 4Wheeler worth their salt knows weight is an enemy off road, in the mud, soft areas, steep hills. All the wheeling you guys didn't do would show the fault of a heavy diesel engine. The power wagon engineers were right not to offer a diesel option. Off road you need a soft compliant suspension(including articulation) with true 4 wheel traction and easy to modulate power(the gas engines have more than enough)

@michaelalcocer6778

3 жыл бұрын

They should have never compared the diesel version of the tremor when the gas version is readily available.

@gabrielback5615

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelalcocer6778 I agree, a gas powered 250 model.

@VT990

2 жыл бұрын

The tremor can do most of what the Ram can but it can also still be a heavy duty truck, the Ram sacrifices the entire heavy duty part of the vehicle. A jeep gladiator has better payload and is better if road than the power wagon.

@user-hz3ke8lp5t

2 жыл бұрын

@@VT990 Ram didn't sacrifice anything, it was by design from the beginning just like the raptor. I'm a Ford guy but I see tons of people trading in gladiators for power wagons. I believe you're watching too many videos but have no real experience on the trail. Thumbs up for your awesome google trail/offroard knowledge!

@2fuzy

Жыл бұрын

That depends on what you are doing off road sometimes it is a thing called work and a Cummins and some lockers would be wonderful

Great review- definitely answered a lot of my questions 🍻

If you want a HD truck with good towing power and decent off road capability go for the Tremor. If you don't care about towing and just want a good off road HD go Powerwagon. That's pretty much it.

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

With the added weight and revised specs on the 5th gen wagons ruined the payload and towing specs. The pre 17 trucks had 2000 pound payload. And 13k towing. The interior quality is nice but at 600 pounds less payload is a hard price

@DOR1TOMCSWAGGER

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rommer2258 easy fix stiffer coils and it would cost a couple of hundred dollars or airbags which would cost $1000 and you can tow even more either solution you can get more out of towing and still more comfortable than leaf springs

@rxonmymind8362

3 жыл бұрын

The Ram was my go to until I heard of all the problems with them. That's enough to tow my 6500 lb trailer. However, decided on a 2012 Ford F-250 6.2 V8 gas engine. That's a known engine and bulletproof. Not disappointed in my choice. Edit: F-250

@CrazyRedneck007

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you even need a HD truck if you don't care about towing? A F-150 has towing and payload close to the Ram powerwagon. Side note 99% of people buying these trucks wont take them on extreme trails. People just like the looks of bigger tires and lifts.

@Southernblueeyes78

Жыл бұрын

I put air bags on my 2021 power wagon. I tow a 20ft bumper pull with a cab n air JD Tractor with implement no problem at all and it’s rides almost smooth as a half ton. I also tow a 14K lb (empty) living quarters horse trailer. No issues at all. Rides great. Pulls great. Air bags are a must. Without them the suspension bottoms out and it rides like a log truck.

One important thing you neglected to compare was the 14 mpg Ram vs 21 mpg Tremor. Operating expense difference is huge. Off road capability goes to Ram, on road to Ford for fuel and towing capability. Depends what you are mostly intending to use it for. Nobody’s interior form function and beauty can hold a candle to Ram.

@MissleT0E

Жыл бұрын

Important thing you neglected is that NO ONE buys a truck for fuel. #SPG

@KevinMartin1028

Жыл бұрын

Tremor might get better MPG but diesel is more expensive and the maintenance is more expensive.

This was one of the better comparisons, they actually tested the trucks over decent terrain. What they forgot to mention was speed in 4L, my 2019 wagon goes 50mph, I don't know about the tremor. Great video

I have a 7.3 Tremor. Best truck I have ever had. Great off road, great towing, great payload. Got a good deal on it. No need to pay the diesel premium. MPG is a little lacking, but you don’t buy a big truck like this, with MPG in mind. Buy a Prius if that is your motivation. I paid a lot less than even a Power Wagon, which is really what I was in the market for. So with the 7.3 Tremor, you get comparable off road performance, yet more towing and more payload, for less money. At least I did. And you don’t need a Platinum. I got the XLT, and it is plenty nice. If you want to upgrade it, you can buy the parts online for a lot less than you would get them from the factory. I installed the tailgate damper, leather steering wheel, and forward facing camera for about $1000. What more do you need? Heck, you don’t even need those things. I keep up with my buddy’s Raptor no problem. Even make it over stuff he scraps on, because the Tremor has a ton of ground clearance. At less than $4000 for the Tremor option, it is worth it. Especially since everything is under warranty. Once the warranty is up, I will probably upgrade the suspension. For those that wonder I am getting around 16 mpg highway, and 11.5 mpg around town.

Thanks guys! Good stuff!

Carli Suspension offers huge suspension upgrades for both of these trucks which have minimal to no lift, maintain full factory geometry, increase axle articulation, and install a 2.5 shocks that greatly improve on and off road driving. Prepare to spend $10k though.

@extspence

2 жыл бұрын

And prepare currently to wait months to get it.

I almost bought a Tremor., but opted for the Power Wagon. I’m very happy and not looking in the rear view mirror.

Id take that tremor all day it’s the best of both worlds. Off road capability, huge power and monster towing. Just the fact you can take a factory f250diesel to these extremes is fricken awesome.

Great video!

Great review.

I didn't really get to see which truck ia better. They both look similar. I'd take that powerstroke tremor. Great off road capability and towing capacity

I drove an older F-350 and I have a bad hip that after a couple of hours in that Ford I could hardly walk and was in a great deal of pain, Power Wagon for me! Thanks for a great review!

By the way, the SuperDuty has manual locking hubs on the front wheels. I wish these companies that does these reviews know more about the product before down they do these comparison.

@kurtklimisch7498

3 жыл бұрын

Not the same as lockers.

@rxonmymind8362

3 жыл бұрын

@@kurtklimisch7498 Lawyer here. "It locks". Ok? 😁

I can't decide, guess I'll have to buy both.😂

We buy pick up trucks for towing and loading capacity if it is capable offroad then it is a plus but if those truck capacity is compromised just to make it better offroad then I'd rather have the tremor.

@hemiaddiction

3 жыл бұрын

People that buy power wagons aren't wanting to haul a 5th wheel camper. The power wagon is a pupose built truck and it dominates out of the box off road and always has in the hd scene

Both cool trucks, but the Ram is obviously more offroad capable. Either way, i'd still take the Ford.

@bigcitybrom

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t see any portion of the video where the RAM did anything that the Tremor didn’t do. In fact the Tremor looked more capable in that video than the Pw.

@my2017raptorhardtail

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigcitybrom I'm just talking purely based on personal real life experience.

As a ram owner I was pleasantly surprised to find you guys preferred the power wagon the only reason I am not surprised is because the power wagon is simply the best stock off-road truck on the market and has been since 2005. Nevertheless even though I’m not a fan of Ford vehicles in general I am really impressed with the tremor that thing is an absolute beast. When the power wagon fits a diesel in it, it will be game over - end of discussion until the competition rises again which is what I love about the truck market in the 21st-century.

@jeremyhaimes2613

3 жыл бұрын

Would you compare it to the raptor?

@amolinari9

3 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Haimes absolutely not. A raptor is a light duty truck based on the F150 model. The new RAM TRX is the nearest competitor to the Ford Raptor as it is basically a ram rebel on steroids.

I see there are a lot of complaints about comparing a gas truck to a diesel but I appreciate the comparison. Obviously they compared these two because the biggest complaint of the power wagon is they won’t let you equip it with a diesel. So for many people this is the decision they have to make, gas power wagon, or the diesel tremor.

Xlt with the 7.3 would wrk just fine for me that would bring the price down to the power wagon i assume? Either way there both kick ass!!

You can get a 2020 F-350 xlt Tremor 6.7 diesel for 60k with discounts. With the 7.3 gas, the Tremor can be 55k. Right here in Minnesota

@andyenders5073

Жыл бұрын

What are those prices today?

If ten thousand pounds is ok for towing in an HD Truck, you might as well get a Raptor that can tow eight thousand.

@michaelalcocer6778

3 жыл бұрын

The diesel tremor can tow the power wagon while the power wagon is towing it's max load. Maybe they should have mentioned that.....

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

802A raptors have a 6k tow rating and 740 pound payload. It's a designated runner not a towing truck. Just like how a wagon is a crawling truck not a towing truck.

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelalcocer6778 they really killed the capability of the power wagon switching to coils. The older leaf trucks did a lot better. They lighted the spring weight 15%. And just straight math they just took a 6.4 4:10 ram and reduced it 15%.

@bobvincent4841

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/faelm7xpac_ZYLQ.html

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobvincent4841 the older power wagons like ours. Actually have capability. The newer trucks the 17+ they revised the spring rates and added weight to the interior reducing the capacity

Should’ve compared a tremor in the same price range. If price is the problem. The new Godzilla 7.3 is great and brings you closer to the ram price. if it came to price or hell just go with a raptor. If you are getting a 2500 or f250 the size problem get a 250 that is shorter length wise. But if you are buying a HD truck you are buying it for Heavy duty use not solely for off road. As far as I seen the 250 did the same stuff in different ways and can still tow 3 cars

@_jg00

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more. I hate Edmund’s comparisons. I usually just watch them to get angry with what they say. I hate when anyone compares to vehicles and either picks or is given a different trim package. If they wanted a real comparison they would have gotten a Lariat Tremor with the 7.3.

I put air bags for less than $500 on my 2021 power wagon. I tow a 20ft bumper pull with a cab n air JD Tractor with implement no problem at all and it’s rides almost smooth as a half ton. I also tow a 14K lb (empty) living quarters horse trailer. No issues at all. Rides great. Pulls great. Air bags are a must. Without them the suspension bottoms out and it rides like a log truck.

As much as I love the Power Wagon people seem to forget it sacrificed towing capability for off road capability. 9K is nothing to sneeze at, but a 250 Tremor can tow pretty much just as much as a non-Tremor 250. Granted you won't be as stable, but you can tow your tow hauler then have fun with your toys, and truck.

6 freaking commercials in the video, no thanks! 👎

@superdan5617

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure if I’m supposed to click thumbs up or thumbs down to agree with you 😆

@rxonmymind8362

3 жыл бұрын

0 for me.

I own semi trucks and about to get a f250 for reference a semi with a Detroit diesel 13 liter motor has 1300 pound feet of torque so this Ford motor is pretty damn amazing 👏 👌

That Power Wagon is awesome, inside and out! Would have liked to see the Ford overextend its off road capabilities so that the PW could pull it out of trouble with its $3000 winche that comes standard!

Sadly, I'm leaving the Ram family and looking into buying a Ford F350 Tremor now. I wish I could stay in the Ram family but Ram is really behind in the HD off-road segment. Is the Power Wagon awesome? It sure is, as long as you trailer it to the trail and/or don't need to carry much of anything, even passengers. Seriously, my Ram 1500 has a 1700 lb payload. The F350 I'm looking at getting should have around 3700lbs payload, be able to tow a 20k lb fifth wheel or 15k lb conventional trailer. Really, really love Ram trucks. I do, I've owned Ram trucks for... gosh, 20+ years now. Bought my son a 2500HD with the cummins and a standard trans for his graduation present. I'm gonna get so much ish from the whole entire family... but Ram, you failed me, your customer. Yikes man, Ford took away a life long customer, or is about to -- not because they made the best, but because y'all didn't even show up to play. I want to be able to use the same truck I haul my camper, boat, tractor, etc with to load down with at least 1k of gear and go road trip, take a few buddies hunting. Can you imagine being like, hey -- y'all can't load those deer in here, we'd be over payload. Seriously... wow, just an honest to goodness, wow. Don't get me wrong, I think the Power Wagon is awesome at what it does. The Tremor is, to be blunt, not the same thing. It's apples and oranges and I need an orange and Ram, for whatever reason, doesn't even make a dang orange. Ah well, here in a few months it'll be done and that'll probably be the end of my relationship with Ram products -- I'm old and will likely die owning this next truck.

Tremor doesn't have lane keep assist. it only has a lane departure warning. Totally different thing.

What I DO want to know when I read a test is the Total weight of the truck and the capacity of charge! Consum/ On the road, offroad etc. Your test was approved by my grand son...

When it comes to off-road trucks wheelbase and breakover angles are everybit as important, if not more so, as approach and departure angles. Neither of which were listed or mentioned.

omg atlast a channel where both agree on same thing.. love it.. and not faking it for the sake of viewers... Ram all day🔥

TFL has a carli F250 with 7.3, $55K , great truck for comps

Producer: pump it up Green pants guy: I got u

I bought a Ram Rebel with Hemi. Its a very comfortable ride, have a lot of the features of the of the PW minus the front locker, solid axle and winch. A plus for the Rebel, it can haul and tow more than the 2500 PW, which is just weird saying that. The 6.4 has only 15 HP and 25 TQ more than the 5.7. I liked the video of the heavy hitters.

@starmc26

3 жыл бұрын

The rebel is a 1500, the pw is a heavy duty truck. There's little comparison.

@paladin11C40

3 жыл бұрын

@@starmc26 The Powerwagon is based on a HD truck, but it lacks some of the features HD trucks are known for like towing and payload. My 1500 can tow more than the PW. Max towing is 10,350 pounds and payload 1510 pounds, the new Wagoneer is rated at 10,000 pounds, sounds heavy duty to me. Rebel tows 11,540 pounds and payload of 1930 pounds. The big difference is the winch, solid front axle, and the front locker. Other than those things the Rebel and Power Wagon compare pretty close.

I love that for tremor it’s amazing

Both are quality trucks. However the PW is a purpose built truck. Please tell me what the Tremor's additional torque, over the PW, does for off roading? Now if you want to tow then just get a regular 2500 or 250. You can still go off road in both of those, just not to the same degree. Which again is why, if you want a HD for max off road, get a purpose built truck like the PW.

On the Tremor, is the height of the bed rails a concern when towing a 5th wheel? Per the tow guide, they're a bit higher than the other trims.

@johndohart895

2 жыл бұрын

Same as a regular superduty

did you air down the tires on the ford when off roading?

What’s not being said is the power wagon can run 35s out the gate no problem. They just come with 33s. My 1500 came with 33s too

Travis's voice is a combination of John Cusack and Seth Rogan. Took me a while to dial it down recognizing that voice similarity

If I’m not mistaken, on the 6.7 diesel, I believe the HP/torque at the wheels is less than advertised, per dyno test on another channel. Essentially, for off-roading, you’re carrying too much weight for the “at wheel” performance. Now, tune the suspension and maybe the 6.7 gearing and you’d have more of a high speed Baja truck… such as the Super Baja. Since I don’t tow much, focusing on hauling, in conjunction with light off roading, I opted for the 7.3 Tremor. It’s light and nimble (compared to the diesel) and does what I need it to do very nicely. Now, I keep my trucks for around ten years. Dodge can’t hang with longevity.

They have got to get a 35 inch tall tires on the power wagon hopefully the Ford super duty tremor will nudge ram in that direction

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

Due to the rear 4 link rear suspension. They technically can't fit a 35" full size spare, it'll stuff in there with some persuasion but. For haveing a full size spare they have to stay with 33s. 37s fit out of the factory though.

Which is the best I really want to know man Power wagon or f 250 tremor

what they forget to mention is that the ram can tow 10,000 pounds but in real life because of the low payload numbers it will top off around 8,000 and that would be near maxing it out. The ram is cool but they made a heavy duty offroad truck with the payload and towing of a fullsize.

Proud PW owner, and love it. But it's unfair to compare a towing vehicle to a purpose built off-roader.

Thumbnail got me let's see if it's a good show.

Irony...I just put a down payment on a Power Wagon after cross shopping these two trucks (7.3L vs. 6.4L). The price discrepancy is even worse after negotiations. Between that and the PW being a more comfortable off & on roading truck...the answer was clear.

@michaelalcocer6778

3 жыл бұрын

Have to disagree. I own a tremor and it is more comfortable than any dodge I have been in. They should have compared the gas tremor as it is the better of the two versions off road. It really just comes down to seat of the pants preference and brand loyalty at that point.

@christopherbrown1391

3 жыл бұрын

Ram is going to be better riding due to its suspension

@TXBlackKnight88

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelalcocer6778 I'm not brand loyal and I drove both. The tremor package is still attached to a truck that is designed to tow. That suspension is inherently stiff unloaded...that's why the Ram can't tow as much. My comment was nothing about the video...just real life. The Ford is a great package though.

@christopherbrown1391

3 жыл бұрын

Rod Smith not as powerful as the 7.3 if you are going by seat of the pants

@TXBlackKnight88

3 жыл бұрын

@Rod Smith 7.3L with the 10 speed feels more powerful and "torquey." However, I never felt the PW lacking in pep (I think that is due to the 4.10s). Powertrain wise, I liked the Ford experience better. But after price talks... the PW is a better package and value if your focus is centered around off road performance.

Do you know what type of limited slip front diff is on the Tremor, Torsion or clutch type? Thanks in advance.

@vaunbrown

3 жыл бұрын

Truetrac

Difference in Price did it for me

I liked the comparison but I would go ford but I do like the front camera on the ram.

They mis stated the F250 6.7 towing capability. It's 21k not 15k. You can actually use the Ford to tow the dodge while the dodge is towing it's max towing capability and still have capacity to spare. These are two different vehicles. The tremor has a gas option that would be cheaper and a better comparison.

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

The convention towing capacity is 15k, the gooseneck is 21k. The power wagon isn't rated for gooseneck. Also it depends on the package selection. The max tow rating package makes the difference but adds a hefty spring rate.

@michaelalcocer6778

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rommer2258 sorry to disappoint you but my truck is rated to pull 21k conventionally. I can send you a picture of the sticker that says so. It has a class 5 conventional 3" hitch system from the factory.

@Rommer2258

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelalcocer6778 www.motor1.com/reviews/393923/2020-ford-f250-tremor-first-drive-review/ Tow more section. 15k conventional, 21.9k gooseneck.

@michaelalcocer6778

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rommer2258 sorry they are wrong. The Ford manual states 21200lbs. I am looking at the sticker on my truck right now that states the same with a tongue weight of 2120lbs. You can read what every you want from someone other than ford but the fact remains it's not true. The 2020 ford RV and trailer tow guy specifically says so and there is literally a sticker on the receiver that list 21k along with the manual that states that specifically. Ever stop to think that the 3rd hand source you are getting your information from is wrong?

There wasn't a comment on the back seats of the Dodge. How much leg room does it have compared to the Ford?

What do you call a torsen with the brakes applied? A locker, that you can actually steer.

If you are serious about off roading, the Power Wagon is the way to go. If you are a casual off roader who still needs/wants to tow a lot, the Tremor is probably the better pick. I have a Power Wagon and upgraded the tires to 35x12.5 r17 which fit on the factory rims with no rubbing even at max articulation. You can fit 37x12.5 r17 tires if you go with a "slimmer" tire and run a rim with a certain offset/backspacing with no rub at all. This can be done on the stock suspension. $1400 and I have the same size tires as the Tremor including a full size off road spare which fits under the bed plus far more off road equipment such as a front locker and disconnecting front sway bar. The Power Wagon's axle flex, even with a connected sway bar, is superior to the Tremor's and has a better RTI score as a result. Disconnected it's in a whole different league. How much would it cost for a Tremor owner to add a front selectable locker, install a disconnecting front sway bar, wire it, and improve axle flex for both axles? Al ot more than $1400.

Calico Ghost Town, that scenery is very recognizable.

What is the payload capacity of these trucks you Subaru wheelers?

Well, how many miles did the power wagon get per gallon ?

Ram Power Wagon no brained if you do serious off road, plus the Ram is more practical for everyday and more affordable

The best comparison i have seen so far...but i have yet to see the 7.3 vs the 6.4. Its always the diesel.

Does the RAM-BOX prevent having a cap on the back ?

@mjg6377

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Cannot have a traditional cap on a truck with RamBoxes. However, there’s at least one invention I’ve seen but it still negates the ease of function of the boxes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fneV0M2opZPRY9Y.html

Both truck are nice while they’re new!

the next "tremor" or "X offroad" package should just save everyone's time and work with carli suspension to get capability + ride quality off the lot

The most American video i've seen today 🇺🇸

Poor ride in HF trucks: exists Carli Suspension: Begone

Where’s the AT4?! Also, enough about the price being a deciding factor! You either chose this truck or were given a Platinum by Ford. Either way; you need to stop harping in the price because you can get a cheaper gas powered Lariat Tremor that would be much more similar in price.

@markely7587

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! A gas lariat trim would have been a more equal comparison in terms of pricing. I have seen revives of the Gas Tremor VS the Diesel and the gas gets the better review for off road. Of course that diesel is built to tow, and tow hard! So if hauling a heavy load is what you need, the diesel is the way to go.

Funny they didn't mention the fuel economy for the PW

@2001tjmedina

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you can afford either truck then your not worried about fuel economy.

Where was this filmed?

@LM-qk2xt

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like Calico California.

To beat the price comparison a non diesel Ford Tremor would’ve been apt! ✅

@johndohart895

2 жыл бұрын

Also the 20k in superfluous electronics that you can do without on a lariat

The 7.3 V-8 tremor is better than the power wagon in my opinion and I would get that over the power wagon

9:25 I wonder if they realize they were about 2" away from rolling that Ford here...

I can’t see over the hood ... turn the 360 camera on. The platinum has it , use it. He used it in the ram Oh and the Tremor you can tow your 35’ 12000 lb camper to the off road site and not have to leave to find a hotel

That Ford DOES have a front locker. It is old school. You have to get out of the truck and manually turn the knob in the center hub, DS. All things considered, the Ford is just a nicer vehicle. The Ford's transmisdion, diff and axles are sturdier. But the Ram is awflly nice for off-roading too.

7.3 vs 6.4 , compare apples to apples 🤦🏻‍♂️

You can get very strong coil springs too ! That's what a coal train uses ! They have a pretty high payload ! Lol

God that looks fun. I think we all know the Ford is the better truck though!

This Ford has the best front face design in any vehicle imo. Maybe I just like straight lines. The new F150 rounder design not so great.

The ram should be a 1500. It’s hauling and towing capabilities are less than most half tons.

I own a power wagon and love it beside a new transmission at 100,005 mile and replaced a starter at 32,000 miles and a thermostat at 63,000 miles other than that its been swell if you have 8,000 dollars sitting around

looks like the Tremor is longer?

The power wagon has a cool 4 wheel drive lever... but where is the gear shifter?? Was it a dial???? Please tell me no!

Awwwh they both had their shoulder purse in mind.

Why doesnt anybody mention that the power wagons lockers are only able to be used in 4 low? I live in the northeast, and sometimes you need wheel speed to get out of a sticky situation with the lockers. Also why are these test always in the desert and not the woods?

@bobvincent4841

3 жыл бұрын

The lockers are useable in 2 hi, 4 hi and 4 low, front, rear, both, one, or the other, whatever, IF you do a 1 hour rewire like i did. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZWtxLOaYq7Kpto.html

@pyro13filippone53

3 жыл бұрын

I know you can do a bypass, but it never gets mentioned in tests.

Yeah but which is more reliable?