Ram Dass on the Anxiety of Being in the Void - Here and Now Ep. 193

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In the conclusion of this Ram Dass Q&A from 1992, he answers questions and offers wisdom about how life is our practice, how to deal with the anxiety of being in the void, and much more.
Don’t miss the first part of this Ram Dass Q&A session in Here and Now Ep. 192: • The Possibility of Unc...
- Show Notes -
Life is Our Practice
Ram Dass begins with questions about drinking, drugs, and being undisciplined. He shares stories of being with Alan Watts and Trungpa Rinpoche, reflecting on their use of alcohol. Ram Dass explores how, ultimately, life is our practice, and whether or not marijuana can be used spiritually.
“I mean, you really gotta flip it out one level to see the beauty of the whole thing. I mean, if you listen to my tapes every day in traffic, you will become as neurotic as I am. That’s all I can guarantee.” - Ram Dass
Relatively Real (20:30)
Next up, Ram Dass answers questions about the concept of the Witness, the idea of relative reality, giving up our clingings, healing from trauma, and dealing with the suffering of animals. He talks about how the Witness can lead us to a path of nondualism, how all astral planes are relatively real, and how we can deal with our fears by turning towards them rather than running away from them.
“And that’s what’s called relatively real, it both is and isn’t real. So that the answer is all astral planes, all heavens, hells, all of that stuff, is still all relativity, it’s all relatively real… It’s like truth has no form, the minute you put it into words, it becomes a lie because there are conditions under which it isn’t.” - Ram Dass
The Anxiety of Being in the Void (46:44)
Ram Dass ends with questions on dealing with addiction, sifting through our leftover neuroses from childhood, dealing with the anxiety of being in the void and ceasing to exist as a separate entity, appreciating our sadness, working with our attachment to the Earth amidst the climate crisis, and becoming part of the compassionate force in the universe.
“Finally, like the snake shedding its skin, the fear just isn’t enough to cut you off. And then you come in, and as you come into the totality, you are still a separate entity, and that separate entity, in itself, still has fear. And that’s what’s far out.” - Ram Dass
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  • @chrisward1056
    @chrisward10562 жыл бұрын

    Ram Dass starts talking at 14:02 thanks Ragu.

  • @jacobdieffenbach2375

    @jacobdieffenbach2375

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ram ram!

  • @cecilia1099

    @cecilia1099

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @tenbrooks83

    @tenbrooks83

    Жыл бұрын

    lol, yea... I've found the transition usually happens around 13 or 14 minutes. Thanks Ragu 😍

  • @jodysherman2447

    @jodysherman2447

    Жыл бұрын

    What a super proper and appropriate way to delineate the space between Raghu and RD. I really dig the way you recognized the Both. Beautiful!

  • @marcosluna7792

    @marcosluna7792

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Raghu!!

  • @QuervoJones
    @QuervoJones2 жыл бұрын

    I found myself getting sucked back into the melodrama of work and the stress if everything and this is exactly what I needed. Ram dass you are a real homie

  • @chillrick2602

    @chillrick2602

    Жыл бұрын

    I hear that. There was a time during my awakening when I didn’t know how to approach my job because I had realized that there was more to life than work. Then I remembered the importance of both honoring my incarnation and playing the roles this incarnation has in society (while being a silent observer through it all). Now I go to work with the roles I have for my boss and each of my coworkers and clients. But it’s not who I am.

  • @QuervoJones

    @QuervoJones

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chillrick2602 right on friend.

  • @thomasmcclane7886

    @thomasmcclane7886

    8 ай бұрын

    @@chillrick2602 turn no stone, and no stone is left unturned

  • @vKarl71
    @vKarl712 жыл бұрын

    Good introduction. Ram Dass starts at 14:00 talking about teachers who drink & goes on to many other helpful thoughts.

  • @bordercollie1140

    @bordercollie1140

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @Lightknight1991
    @Lightknight19912 жыл бұрын

    Love love love it. So beautiful. Here’s a likely unpopular opinion: perhaps it wasn’t “poor Alan” after all. Perhaps Alan, as the fractal imperfectly perfect expression of source he was, with infinite free Will, made the choices he was meant to make in that particular lifetime for his highest spiritual catalyst for growth and the myriad of ways in which he impacted the lives of those around him. Ironically, a journalist for the Buddha is still a Buddha. It’s all a paradox so words become meaningless at a certain point. This is simply another of infinite perspectives. I’m not quick to judge anything or anyone ever since I see that everything has it’s divine unfolding and purpose. Often times it’s a wisdom deeper and more beyond what our monkey mind can fathom. Infinite love to all 💜💜💜

  • @ashleymurphy9585

    @ashleymurphy9585

    11 ай бұрын

    Beautifully said dear one!❤️❤️❤️

  • @tr7b410

    @tr7b410

    7 күн бұрын

    Turning to alcohol to get the high you are not getting in Samadhi is the last fig leaf the ego lurches toward to stop that frustration from overwhelming one's life. If you study the Kundalini awakening experience of Kundalini pandit Gopi Krishna hit the video icon=The terror of the destruction of his egos subconscious mind/unconscious mind revealing the superconscious mind 24/7 was incredibly difficult.But purifying the mind of all barriers to Turiya samadhi is not for the weak or faint at heart. HOW BADLY DO YOU WANT GOD vs YOUR EGOS MENTAL MACHINATIONS.?

  • @SwimmingThroughTheVoid
    @SwimmingThroughTheVoid2 жыл бұрын

    Ram Das feels like “home” I love each and every one of yall 🖤

  • @RictorIAG
    @RictorIAG Жыл бұрын

    I mean, it's hard for me to comment as an authority on Ram Dass' impression of Alan Watts. But my impression of Alan Watts is that he lived consistent with his principles.

  • @c_monster429
    @c_monster4292 жыл бұрын

    Didn't expect that Alan Watts comment out of the gate!!

  • @georgecantsurf
    @georgecantsurf8 ай бұрын

    Funny how Alan Watts saw himself as just an entertainer yet carried more insight and true enlightenment than any of his contemporaries

  • @BrainWaveS101

    @BrainWaveS101

    8 ай бұрын

    Of being drunk and not drunk - drunk from others karma....

  • @DJRexistsforyou
    @DJRexistsforyou2 жыл бұрын

    My God, if Ram Dass impersonating Aldous Huxley isn't the absolute best thing I've ever heard. ❤️ 😂🤣 Thanks Ragu Sauce!

  • @katrinabrowne2212

    @katrinabrowne2212

    10 ай бұрын

    Ragu sauce ❤

  • @juderenard8273
    @juderenard82732 жыл бұрын

    In Alan 10,000 watts’ defense, “ now you see it,….. now you don’t” the hide and seek theory reigns supreme.

  • @trueslimness
    @trueslimness2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting - wonderful wisdom, amazing teacher.

  • @alexhamilton2871
    @alexhamilton2871 Жыл бұрын

    His Q&A’s are amazing! Just like his stories!

  • @Jaaaackjack
    @Jaaaackjack2 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad to hear a sponsor on this podcast!! Love better help!! Love love love!

  • @psyfiles7351
    @psyfiles7351 Жыл бұрын

    So many peaks of wisdom in this! I love your intro!!

  • @puravida8387
    @puravida83872 жыл бұрын

    I needed exactly this today. I’ve had anxiety about all being one. I feel loneliness and unease. I’ve had fears that everyone is not real, just people I dream up, which in a God sense is kinda true, but it’s been an unsettling time.

  • @lotisphil3031

    @lotisphil3031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ill recommend you get magic mushroom it helped me on my anxiety,I was referred to this mate..

  • @lotisphil3031

    @lotisphil3031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mycodree

  • @lotisphil3031

    @lotisphil3031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hes on instagrem,

  • @HarryPothead4201

    @HarryPothead4201

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4mLtbmmqbrAmtY.html The more you identify as an individual the more the unease settles in and is experienced by you, its all okay, its the act of thinking as yourself as a individual while grasping at the experience of being the one that creates all the uncomfortable feelings, its all seems to be apart of the journey

  • @hollyt835

    @hollyt835

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh my gosh that’s completely normal! My take is this sounds like you are trying to identify to spirit from an ego perspective. Ego suffers in separateness. We are all connected. On a spirit level our identity will look different than a soul level. Ram Dass teaches on this I encourage you to keep asking questions. That’s how we learn: I commend you for your journey 🙏

  • @touficmann
    @touficmann2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Raghu

  • @86damn86
    @86damn862 жыл бұрын

    amazing ram dass

  • @leemonyelle6052
    @leemonyelle6052 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this key ❤

  • @0127dlucas
    @0127dlucas2 жыл бұрын

    Jai Jai Ram Dass

  • @TRIPTHEARTIST
    @TRIPTHEARTIST2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be so quick to write off Alan Watts..

  • @mindysmith2087

    @mindysmith2087

    11 ай бұрын

    I didn't feel he was writing him off, just expressing one of his experiences with him.

  • @bordercollie1140

    @bordercollie1140

    11 ай бұрын

    When he put Alan Watts down in the way he did he lost me. It was a very cheap shot about a man I don't think he knew that well to say what he did in front of a large group of people. Alan thought me more in one lecture than Ram Dass ever did. Also why did he hide the fact that he was homosexual for so long? It doesn't seem like a very enlightened thing to do.

  • @foreveryactionthereisacons1683

    @foreveryactionthereisacons1683

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@bordercollie1140A lot of people were in the closet.. even though homosexuality is ancient. It just sounds like your egos irritated with his comment.. I love Alan Watts. Especially the story about the astronaut. I thought Alan a Ram Dass were friends.

  • @thomasmcclane7886

    @thomasmcclane7886

    8 ай бұрын

    @@foreveryactionthereisacons1683they were friends I’ve heard in one dass lecture that they did lsd and Alan watts would talk for hours and he sounded like they were close. I don’t believe ram dass meant what he said in a negative way at all and even if it was negative I also don’t believe he holds any contempt in his heart for him at all. If he did that’s his problem and work. I’ve listened to both for hours and hours and hours they compliment eachother quite nicely. Ram dass I feel the love and rascal ness. Alan watts is on a whole other level though. I wouldn’t put it last ram dass for his actions or words to go over his head and he not understand for years. Some people don’t understand ever. Try that one on ❤

  • @IshakMujevic

    @IshakMujevic

    8 ай бұрын

    Man killed himself with alcohol should not be followed like model for peaceful life

  • @EffortlessQigong
    @EffortlessQigong Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @mikewallis2987
    @mikewallis29872 жыл бұрын

    Watts baby!!

  • @ursidae8108
    @ursidae81085 ай бұрын

    listened to this ep a few times thru and every time Ram Dass at 19:31 goes "its-a-just-a-yoga" I die laughing

  • @peacepaint917
    @peacepaint9172 жыл бұрын

    Love

  • @Taldaran
    @Taldaran7 ай бұрын

    I was just thinking about one of the questions posed about traumatic thoughts intruding upon meditative practice, and got me thinking about the Christian teachings of "turning the other cheek", and "If thine eyes offend thee" etc. By aligning yourself with the witness, you depersonalize perceived negative experiences, helping you live in the state of equanimity. Jesus the Christ was a true teacher of "nobodyness". The practice of fearlessly distilling with the spirit true teachings from religious dogma is a formidable task.

  • @khushbuubana3917
    @khushbuubana39179 ай бұрын

    35:10 Animal Suffering 16:26 Kalu Rinpoche about Trugoa Rinpoche: when you go to the top of mountain 17:34 If you listen to my tapes everyday in traffic, you will become as neurotic as I am

  • @scottthomas5819
    @scottthomas5819 Жыл бұрын

    Yesss

  • @Chiefthepup
    @Chiefthepup2 жыл бұрын

    14:05 it starts

  • @zachemory
    @zachemory2 жыл бұрын

    Raghu loves to hear himself talk.

  • @jackdodson39
    @jackdodson392 жыл бұрын

    14:00

  • @brianedwards6848
    @brianedwards68482 жыл бұрын

    💙

  • @tr7b410
    @tr7b4107 күн бұрын

    3 days after taking a Kundalini workshop in Laguna Beach California 1992 the Kundalini master from India performed Shakti pat on us.I did not feel anything supernatural at that time. 3 nights later during my meditation I saw my inner eye turn into a spiral sucking me into a black-warm-velvety soft VOID=A total disconnect from the egos mental machinations/the UNCONSCIOUS MIND.

  • @codymartindale4340
    @codymartindale434011 ай бұрын

    Im interested to know how the zen master takes care of the drunk man on the japanese train while being just quiet and peaceful

  • @carolkelly1324

    @carolkelly1324

    2 ай бұрын

    He was engaging, not quiet...it was all about love.

  • @voidmoon.
    @voidmoon.2 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏾💙🙏🏾

  • @donnydread7631
    @donnydread76312 жыл бұрын

    ∞ Love ^ 🙏🏼

  • @tomato1040
    @tomato1040 Жыл бұрын

    WE=mc2 are never separate until the teacher shows up. ''Hey teacher, leave them kids alone!'' Ego death is what the teachers need but they want everyone else 2 need it with them. Hey, somebody, there's nobody like ME=mc2!

  • @macandrewes
    @macandrewes6 ай бұрын

    I suspect Alan Watts saw so much so deeply that it made for a very lonely life. I think he used the booze just to shut it all off and get some relief. Probably he and Trungpa knew exactly what they were doing.

  • @tobyglynn

    @tobyglynn

    6 ай бұрын

    I dunno dude, the more you see of this stuff it feels like you get more and more free

  • @tylercoyle7026
    @tylercoyle70262 жыл бұрын

    4 hours ago and 5 dried grams later

  • @gino9094

    @gino9094

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too man. Me too.

  • @span218
    @span2185 ай бұрын

    There is a famous drunken Buddha ! 🍺

  • @yamesotericist4188
    @yamesotericist41882 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! But it will not work for 98% of the audience but you yourself know that! The fact is that Tolle's "Pain Body" turns out to have a physical body too, which works reflexively, automatically and constantly! You must discover it in yourself first!

  • @Wizet0904
    @Wizet09048 ай бұрын

    So far 5 minutes into his lecture he shines his opinion on someone elses journey as being less than theirs, and says weed helps you on your own journey. Ram dass always had trouble really acting through his truth, but acting beside it.

  • @JuiceFastCoach
    @JuiceFastCoach10 ай бұрын

    14:04 Ram Dass starts talking

  • @bonnieclark8069
    @bonnieclark8069 Жыл бұрын

    it is hard to stay balanced in this mess, in every way.

  • @kevinshari8262
    @kevinshari82622 жыл бұрын

    40.10

  • @Wizet0904
    @Wizet09048 ай бұрын

    Video starts at 14:00

  • @kevinshari8262
    @kevinshari82622 жыл бұрын

    -41.05 ram. Dass starts

  • @SamHeine
    @SamHeine8 ай бұрын

    Starts around 14 minutes in

  • @theusersol
    @theusersol Жыл бұрын

    The preamble to these talks are always very skippable. Perhaps time stamps can save some of your listeners time and disappointment

  • @mirouu13
    @mirouu1310 ай бұрын

    Why he was making fun like that about Huxley?

  • @nifehowls6899
    @nifehowls68994 ай бұрын

    I didn't appreciate the animal question answer because humans directly cause a lot of suffering for animals even though we dont need to and many of us dont. Even to eat an animal doesn't require sustained suffering yet many humans cause sustained suffering. To just observe I think is contributing to even more suffering.

  • @candidlyspeaking9761
    @candidlyspeaking9761 Жыл бұрын

    I doubt that Alan Watts would have ever publicly called Ram Dass the narcissist he was. Both men delivered the message but I've always liked Watts better.

  • @alsdean

    @alsdean

    Жыл бұрын

    Could you explain what in ram dass makes you think that, I‘m curious:)

  • @candidlyspeaking9761

    @candidlyspeaking9761

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alsdean Sorry for late reply. To my ears, Ram Dass did a lot of "humble bragging", seemed to take an invisible bow for his work with the dying and AIDS patients, and his "profound" sighs seemed affected to me. I didn't care for the way he would ask "is this all too much for you?" to his listeners, it smacked of superiority. I think Ram Dass was quite aware of his ego demons and I believe he did speak of this after his stroke. He did have some excellent insights without a doubt and I listen to him for these and (try to) disregard the narcissism.

  • @RhythmJunkie

    @RhythmJunkie

    4 ай бұрын

    @@candidlyspeaking9761 I completely agree

  • @joeschmoe92
    @joeschmoe922 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I think it’s about to get heavier, quicker quick. 😕

  • @venus67venus
    @venus67venus Жыл бұрын

    yeah the actual rock in space, earth, isn't going anywhere. It's "just" the ecosystem, most spiecies, most of humanity, it's so fucking sad and dystopian

  • @Chiefthepup
    @Chiefthepup2 жыл бұрын

    Good god get into the talk. I appreciate all this guy does but 12 minutes in and it’s been 3 commercials and just pointless rambling

  • @-_-_-_-_-...

    @-_-_-_-_-...

    Жыл бұрын

    The good stuff doesn't start till 14:00. When you listen to these videos, look thru the comments, usually someone has already chimed in with the timestamp of where the stuff begins we all came for. I don't know why they always waste time with those ridiculous intros.

  • @katflowfishfisher878
    @katflowfishfisher8782 жыл бұрын

    14 minutes of? what.. what is it about me that I cant listen and just so angry at the ist 14 min. well I dont actually

  • @TheCrowDream

    @TheCrowDream

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I could perfect my patience in 14 minutes it would be pure bliss. Jao!

  • @katflowfishfisher878

    @katflowfishfisher878

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheCrowDream I like this answer , whatever it means.. it's the energy I like.. I will go with Alan Watts.. yes I am not perfect .. I can be a scoundrel.. I acted out that day.. humm .. I now will sing... It's a sign of the times. lol.. Not talking it all so seriously at this .. now.

  • @carolkelly1324
    @carolkelly13245 ай бұрын

    Can't DO Watts...

  • @Ellinors
    @Ellinors2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this explains why I can’t listen to Alan Watts… it doesn’t resonate and it’s prob bc he was coming from mind.

  • @richardgoodrich4783

    @richardgoodrich4783

    2 жыл бұрын

    He still has a great message and can articulate the concepts better than most. As Ram pointed out, Alan knew the way very well....he just got trapped in his incarnation and he eventually knows it, he admits it in a few of his lectures. Ram Dass and Alan Watts had a great relationship, I think it was a little rocky in the beginning. They are both great.

  • @Ellinors

    @Ellinors

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardgoodrich4783 I’ve listened to several of his videos and it’s difficult for me to follow and it’s the same thing for me when I’ve studied at the university or other places, I can feel the discrepancy in them and it becomes difficult for me to even listen. I think we can just agree to disagree and that not everyone is for everyone. I listened a lot to Osho when I first started on my path and in one of his lectures Ram Dass says that he has no business with Rajnesh and I respect that.

  • @emmanuelpil

    @emmanuelpil

    Жыл бұрын

    Dass makes a mixture of many mystical beliefs and present it as the truth. Watts is a pure pantheist. He didn't want to be called a guru or to impose any believe system. Dass didn't understand Watts, otherwise he would know that one cannot change himself. Further his complaining about drunkenness is awkward when he himself is overloaded with drug abuse. This interview with him is painful to watch. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gn6Do9uvqq3TpdI.html

  • @carolkelly1324

    @carolkelly1324

    2 ай бұрын

    Couldn't get into Watts

  • @colinrowley3350
    @colinrowley33502 жыл бұрын

    14.00 mins of absolute drivel at the start

  • @-_-_-_-_-...

    @-_-_-_-_-...

    Жыл бұрын

    100%. Idk why they insist on doing that.

  • @-_-_-_-_-...
    @-_-_-_-_-... Жыл бұрын

    Why do you people babble so? Everyone is here for Ram, just get to it already.

  • @Grace17893
    @Grace17893 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how the be here now channel went woke lmao

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