I wanted to buy the Ecodiesel in my 2020 Rebel, found the one I wanted, then found out the dealers in my area were marking the Diesel up by almost 10k dollars. I did the math and found that in the 7 years to pay off the truck, it would not make up that amount of money in savings between diesel and gasoline, so I bought the 5.7 instead.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

not to mention the price of diesel right now is quite a bit higher then normal gas.

@paladin11C40

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Now I am looking at selling my truck due to gas prices. I am looking at a Rubicon 4xe or just the 2.0L turbo. I want something to take off-road, without costing a lot for a daily driver.

@drunkhusband6257

2 жыл бұрын

@@paladin11C40 A wrangler gets worse gas mileage than a ram lol

@paladin11C40

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 My Gladiator Rubicon gets better gas mileage than my Rebel.

@drunkhusband6257

2 жыл бұрын

@@paladin11C40 But....it doesn't

2016 Ecodiesel bought new. Just rolled 100,000 miles, 80% of that was towing a 9500 lb travel trailer. Oil changes every 7500 miles, diesel and air filters every 15,000 miles. Tires at 65,000 miles and battery at 90,000 miles. It had 1 CEL at 70,000 miles and was fixed under the emissions warranty. All software updates are complete and I still get 28 mpg on the highway. Runs and looks great. Yes, my trailer was too heavy but the truck handled like a beast.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

right on sir. it does seem that these engines like to be run hard. but you also seem to be on top of your maintenance which is also important. but hey can't complain with 28mpg's

@Grant3758

2 жыл бұрын

Considering getting one and would be doing a lot of road trips with an rv. Did you ever feel like you would have been better with the 2500 towing that 9500 so much? Thanks for the help!

@michaelmappin4425

2 жыл бұрын

@@Grant3758 during our travels throughout 38 states the answer to that question is a bit complicated. I usually got around 13 mpg while towing and between 24 and 28 while stationed and unhitched. A 2500 would probably get less than that. Over 100,000 miles, I would estimate the cost differences to be around $1,000 in fuel. I would never get a hemi (gas) 2500 though; that amount would at least double. I knew that I was towing at or above my GCVW so I used a $2000 Pro Pride hitch and kept it at 62mph always. There were probably 3 stretches of road where the grade slowed me down to around 45mph and I noticed transmission and oil temperature climbing to the point where I wondered if I was going to need to pull over. In each instance, we crested the hill and everything returned to normal before there was any real issue. Finally, the Ecodiesel isn't really capable of towing anything but the smallest 5th wheel, so upgrading trailers wasn't an option. I still have my 1500 to this day. I love it and am very proud of the job it did. It continues to be completely reliable and perfect for my current non RV lifestyle. The 2500 wouldn't be as good of an unhitched, around the local area truck but it will give you a lot more towing confidence and trailer options. Also, a 2500 costs more to buy initially. If I had to do it all over again, I think I would have bought a used HD truck (I couldn't have afforded new at the time) and a used 5th wheel trailer. When unhitched though, I would have to hear my wife flat out refuse to drive or park the bigger truck. After leaving the life for our current condo, we would have to get rid of the truck. Again, because my wife would complain and make me take her everywhere. I'm sure there are wives out there that wouldn't mind. Hope this all helps. Happy and safe travels and via con Dios.😉

@Grant3758

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmappin4425 that was really helpful. Thank u. I don't think we'd be doing 80% towing but like u mentioned we'd be stuck trying to find a smaller 5th wheel if we had the 1500. Thats really impressive you towed that heavy trailer for that many miles and had minimal issues. I think well check out which travel trailers we like and probably go from there. My wife is already hesitant about having a large truck and rv combo so i definitely understand where you're coming from:) it'll probably then come down to if we want one of the larger 5th wheel rvs with our animals and dirtbikes and what not. Anyways, thanks for the help sir. Have a nice weekend!

@michaelmappin4425

2 жыл бұрын

@@Grant3758 I agree, choose the trailer first.

Had my 2019 eco for a little over 2 years now. It's completely stock. Best truck I've ever had. No problems what so ever. Change oil every 8000 miles. No turbo drag. Pulls great and it's surprisingly fast for such a big truck. 24 to 27 mpg with 3:92 rear end.

@seanbutler2291

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the basically brand new vehicle you own is so impressive, how about writing that review at 250,000 miles at that point a Diesel's considered midlife. The old 12 valve 5.9 Cummins would do 400,000 mi regularly.

@toddbutler5869

Жыл бұрын

@@seanbutler2291 well I can only comment on the experience I've had so far. Unlike some I can't predict the future. But I will truthfully comment in the future.

@toddbutler5869

Жыл бұрын

I do agree the Cummins is a better engine. At 20 to 30 thousand more they probably wouldn't sell very many of them if that were not the case.

@Thumpr110

4 ай бұрын

How many miles do you have so far?

@monsoavg9

2 ай бұрын

@@toddbutler5869update?

Really great video man. As someone actively looking at 1/2 and 3/4 diesel trucks and learning about diesel motors and maintenance for the first time this is very helpful. My main concern as well has been buying a used diesel truck driven by someone disillusioned that it should be treated and driven like a gas motor, and then discovering clogged DPF, not being warmed up or allowing fuel pump to cycle, etc. Great video and thank you.

A lot of these issues were addressed before the re release of this motor. Fiat gave it to American engineers and said do it right, we're stepping back. They did and made it better than before. The used over 80% new parts and the block was one of the only things that made it to the new one.

@preslim84

2 жыл бұрын

what year was the re release?

@Fab-ec8os

2 жыл бұрын

I heard the main bearing design was left in. I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee ecodiesel with 180,000 mile on it still running strong. I'm assuming it wasn't a big problem as everyone is saying. At least I hope so! Lol

@witkr904

2 жыл бұрын

@@preslim84 I think your are talking about the 2020 Gen 3.

@paladin11C40

2 жыл бұрын

@@preslim84 The Gen 2 was produced from 2014 to 2018, took 2019 off, then in 2020 brought the Gen 3. If you are looking at the 3.0 diesel in the Grand Cherokee from 2005-2010, that was a Mercedes Benz diesel engine.

As a guy that has never had a diesel but always been attracted to the ecodiesel - this video was really helpful (my commutes are VERY short and VERY bursty) - thanks my man!

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

thank you, it does seem that consistent short trips (city driving) with this engine causes issues. so unfortunately may not be the best engine option

Thanks Alex, always interesting to see you reviews and comparisons. Lots of serious potential issues with that eco diesel. You warned us long ago in a vid to research before buying one and for good reason. I hope Ontario is treating you guys well , cheers

@TheGettyAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

Ya you just have to know what you are getting yourselves into really. If you understand the need for the aftertreatment system to get nice and warm you should be okay. the engine failures themselves are not that common but are still something to watch for lol And it is nice to be back home in Ontario but we miss the Island and all its awesome scenery!

Thanks for the write-up in the video description. I appreciate your detailed video but I don't have time to watch it now and I really appreciate the short hand version .

Good video and good job contrasting the ecodiesel vs the hemi. I bought my ecodiesel 6 years ago and now have 88k miles on the engine. No significant issues whatsoever with the drive train, but I am meticulous about having the oil changed regularly along with the filters. I drive both on city streets and freeways. I also use additives in the fuel to boost cetane numbers and lubricate the injection system. I do not use aftermarket tuning systems. I have had the occasional regen during the cold months, especially if I have been sitting and idling much. However, I have only had 8 to 10 regens in 6 years of ownership. The regen does not require hours of driving as stated in your video. The longest regen I had was about 20 to 25 minutes and most are about 10 to 15. If I am in street traffic (i.e. not on a freeway or highway) , I just manually select the gear that would maintain between 2000 to 2500 rpm during the regen process. Just make sure you select carefully so as not to over-rev the engine. Now during the winter months, after letting the engine warm up to operating temps, I use the same method if I am in city traffic to make sure I minimize soot build up. I believe if you own an ecodiesel you should learn about how diesels work and how the modern clean diesels obtain the clean omissions. Understanding the systems will help the owner better maintain their vehicles. I absolutely love the truck which is a Limited and friends who ride in it always remark about how great it is. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the ecodiesel and keep up the good work. I would like to see a video on the aftermarket tuning systems (good and bad points).

@beach1963

9 ай бұрын

Excellent comment! I have 135,000 miles on my 2014 EcoDiesel, mostly driven in town for my short work commute, so the truck has only asked me to drive on the highway for a quick regen maybe once every six or eight weeks. I drive 5 miles up the interstate, turn around, 5 miles back and it’s done! In town I average 18 to 21 miles per gallon, at 55 mph I easily get 33-35 miles per gallon, at 65 between 30 and 32, and at 70 I get between 28 and 30. Last June I towed a 6400 pound U-Haul trailer about 300 miles and averaged 24.5 miles per gallon! The only unscheduled maintenance I’ve had to do was replace a coolant line.

Have 180k on my 2015 and get 31mpg. I love it

For bogging, I found with my 2015, that sometimes from a stop it would start in 2nd gear and not first. You can see the gear it is in by quickly pushing the gear+ or gear- button.

fair and true words ... thank u for the video ... greetings from the ecodiesel guys in germany

I think it's worth noting that , you can't really compare this engine to a Hemi in the same way that you would drive the Hemi. This goes for just about any diesel in my experience. Its worthless to just mat the throttle in a turbo diesel , in this case ...an EcoDiesel or Cummins for that matter, like how you would with a 5.7 or 6.4 gas engine. I recommend that you roll into the throttle rather than just hit it where ever you want it at quickly, and at 3/4 throttle roughly, not full to the floor. I guarantee you will absolutely notice a difference in the way your diesel feels under load changing the way you operate it like I just described.

@Mile2Marathon

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree - " I recommend that you roll into the throttle rather than just hit it where ever you want it at quickly, and at 3/4 throttle roughly, not full to the floor"...it's a diesel.

@devinstetler6874

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I have found that it performs better if you don’t hit the throttle but go smooth on it. I have squawked the tires 🤣

@AmericanSurvival001

Жыл бұрын

Well, he hast to compare to something because Ford does no longer sell the “mini power stroke, which was a piece of junk! And only sold in the most expensive Ford vehicle which was 80+ thousand they stop selling them two years ago my friend had one it lasted three months and blew up. He did nothing but drive back-and-forth to work never pulled even a pair of jet skis with it. Ford ended up buying the truck back because they did not want to do an engine swap because the same thing would’ve happened to the next junk mini power stroke engine.

had.... HAD... a 2015 ecodiesel. First 2 yrs of ownership I thought it was good. trailered my jeep with it from time to time ... = max tow and payload....it Did ok... I always did my maintenance on time. With that said, I did a trip from Vegas to San Diego. It was about 90 degrees. No towing, no hills, .. It went into limp mode. The trans was overheating.. LOVELY.. After 30 minutes at a rest stop it was cool enough to continue w/o issue. When I got home I changed the trans pan and fluids. ... No Joy. Then I also found a weeping leak at the EGR... FAMOUS precursor for disaster. I quickly said no thank you. Traded it in for a 2019 Ram 2500 HD 4x 6.4 NON diesel and LOVE IT! No DEF BS, no soot, no lag, .. Best truck I've EVER owned. Yes the mpg sucks but to be honest the Eco only got about 23-24 highway tops. Averaged 20.

Pedal commander was the best add. On the fly throttle response. A MUST for towing.

I have a 2015 Ecodiesel and almost at 240k on it. The engine has been 100% perfect so far. I tow occasionally a 5000lb trailer and it does alright with it. I have been religious with oil changes though and most of the driving was highway. I also refused the emissions recall to be done by the dealer so still running the original software. Now the air suspension on this thing... now that's a huge piece of garbage, especially during Canadian winters. Summer time, no problem it's great and comfy ride. In the winter..man, it's terrible. Had all the parts replaced and still doesn't work. The dealer gave up and so did I.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I feel like the air ride was designed for Florida driven trucks. I mean the intention for air ride is pretty cool but up here with the harsh winters and road salt those system have a short life span. But happy to hear your truck is running strong. I'd be curious if you not getting the emissions recall had any benefit to the truck.

@etchediniron4249

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures I think you’re correct, I have 256,000 miles on my echo diesel and the air suspension has been flawless....I live in FL

@lynwoodspire8503

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the longevity of this engine had Canadian weather contribute to it. Maybe hot southern weather would shorten it’s life span but then again good maintenance is key.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@lynwoodspire8503 Good maintenance is key. aftertreatment system's don't like the cold. DEF system can freeze up causing a lot of issues

@angelaraw6370

2 жыл бұрын

I have the ecodiesel in a Grand Cherokee and COMPLETELY regret having the recalls done.

I saw heavy diesel mechanic and thought,” what’s his weight got anything to do with this?”

@tipstolevelupinlife5837

2 жыл бұрын

heavy duty mechanic meaning they change axels on loaders as big wuipemebt

@BigislandEJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@tipstolevelupinlife5837 lol,there's always at least one person that doesn't comprehend humor......

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I could probably drop a few pounds..

@tipstolevelupinlife5837

2 жыл бұрын

Try being instrumentation journeyman

Tuned and deleted mine at 5,000 miles, trouble free for almost 120,000 miles. Never take to dealer, do my own service.

@patrickhartle6633

2 жыл бұрын

Same truck runs strong, love it... put bags, lift kit and a goose neck and towed our toy hualer from Montana to Alaska..

@joelrodriguez7038

2 жыл бұрын

Brother I have no experience on Diesel engine but in the future I love to buy one of those, you think delete the def is better or what is better option

@formerice

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelrodriguez7038 I deleted the def system early on. Don't think it's very problematic on the Rams, but it's just something to go bad. Electronicly delete and leave all parts intact. Even dealer won't care.

@joelrodriguez7038

2 жыл бұрын

@@formerice thanks brother

@DanOfAllTrades

2 жыл бұрын

@@formerice you didnt take out your DPF SCR? I am tuned to disabled my EGR..i am going to gut my SCR and upgrade my tune. What tune do you have? GDE? ..also,..my statement is about off road only..😉

Bought a 2015 eco diesel 05/2020 w/52k. Had a consistent leak and after 6 times in the shop, 4 water pumps, come to find out it was the top end hose! Yes, has the initial lag, needs to warm up. Over all, a good truck, tows well, runs like a champ on road trips and gets 30-33 mpg running clear. I am nervous about it because of track record and will be purchasing another warranty if I keep it. It is different, one has to want it or not. Great video Amigo….just can’t compare it to a Hemi. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos….👍

I just bought a 2016 eco diesel at 70k miles. Some of the things I’ve heard made me a little nervous, I’m only 18 so this was a gigantic purchase for someone like me, but I’m mainly hearing the poor reviews by somewhat city drivers. I live 35 minutes from my nearest store, so the middle of nowhere. I’m driving at around 100 miles a day easy- sometimes more, rarely less. So far, this car has handled my dirt road and the grimy highway near it with ease, and impressive smoothness. If I end up absolutely despising it, I’ll edit this lol, but so far maybe so good? Also the only reason I was comfortable getting a diesel is because my dad is a mechanic on 20,000 lbs water trucks (also with Diesel engines). I don’t know the first thing about heavy loading trucks, let alone trucks in general. So far, he’s also a fan. I got it for $25,500, which to me means I have a lot more wiggle room for mechanical errors. There’s no point to this comment, just stating my experience with it so far... and also to have something to come back to in a year to say “yeah, good truck” or “I’m now in severe debt” :)

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Good on you man, sounds like you did some research and with you driving the truck a good distance on a daily basis you'll probably be just fine. It does seem like consistent city driving kills these things. like I've said many times no engine is perfect and there is always the risk of failure. Keep up with the maintenance and I'm sure the truck will run fine for you. and I'm sure your old man can help fix anything that does go wrong worst case scenario

@treycherry1367

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't classify an eco diesel truck as a car 😉 haha jokes aside congrats on the truck. Welcome to the diesel community

@crazyj9071

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had my 2016 since new now at 135k. The only big issues have been the EGR cooler which did end up with a recall. Although it broke at 65k and dumped all the coolant through the engine. Only way to tell was when it overheated, all the coolant went out the tailpipe. I was running the Banks oiled air filter and a senor got plugged up from the oil. Went into limp mode. Switched to a dry cleanable filter. I do have the Banks tuner which is huge! Totally wakes the motor up. Average mileage highway and mountain driving has been 23.4. Pure hwy 27. Towing a 7k trailer 10-12. With the tuner there is plenty of low end once the turbo spools up but it does lack the high end power of the hemi. Enjoy!

Had one, loved it! It was a 2014 first run in the Ram. Amazing fuel mileage, good tow manners! No complaints here because I parked in a garage during our northern Manitoba winters and I have a long history with owning Diesel engines and always ran Rotella 0w40 synthetic not that expensive Euro crap oil.

@scotthackett4500

2 жыл бұрын

Rotella!! #1

@umadbrooo6947

2 жыл бұрын

You use 15w40 for diesel

@spencerelsbury9110

2 жыл бұрын

@@umadbrooo6947 ya 15w40 in the summer and 5w40 in the winter

@normanflint8757

9 ай бұрын

​@@umadbrooo6947no ,15-40 is the Cummins engine,,,,t6,5-40 is for the 3 ltr..

Excellent review. I bought a 2015 eco diesel 3 months ago. It’s been in the shop, three times now with engine lights, electric throttle control sensor, exhaust filter 100%, and now once again engine light on. Love the truck but I can’t afford to maintain it. 1000 dollars every time is to much for a 2015

@SPHINX144

2 жыл бұрын

Being that is out of warranty, you should have done a full delete immediately and never have those problems again.

@Oldmanflyfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@SPHINX144 I should have done my research.

I got the 2017 and towing 7.000lbs 33ft travel trailer and it’s working great. By the way we are from the northpole and no problem starting during winter season -30 🥶.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

like the town of North pole in Alaska? if so I've actually driven through lol pretty unique town! But that's pretty sweet it starts up with ease in such cold temperature.

@magicdio32

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Sweet! Actually I live up here in Yukon Canada, and the next stop that we usually driven are Alaskan town and cities..

I bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic Tradesman Ecodiesel new in June 2020 with about 17k off MSRP, now I have almost 68k and just recently put new Michelin Defenders in there replacing the Goodyear wranglers that came with the truck. The truck runs super awesome and surprisingly quiet for a diesel. I simply follow all the manufacturers maintenance schedule and listen to my truck computer system which there haven’t been any issues. Oil change every 10k, tire rotation every 5k, and the air filters change between 20-30k. The brakes were recently checked during the tire shop visit and surprisingly still has a lot of life left. I drive a lot mostly on highways which averages up to 30 MPG and it’s such a comfortable ride and love the truck.

@vergelbansill9811

3 ай бұрын

I will never Trust the Manufacturer's regarding Oil Change intervals, do it @ 5k not 10k, Dealers and their shops would love these trucks to break down. transmission every 30k, only change the transmission filters on every 60k miles but u need to flush the transmission and torque converter.

Great review. I've ordered a 2022 Ram Rebel Echo diesel here in about 8 weeks, hopefully. i commute 52 miles one way to work each day and all but 3 miles are on 4 lane highway.. Hopefully, i should be good. i had a jeep liberty diesel i purchased used and the EGR valve was always causing me problems. Thanks again for the review.

I've had mine since 2015 and I love it. It hasn't cost me any repairs yet.

Got 150k on mine. Only the tone wheel went out. Spent about a grand to get it fixed. But it has also been deleted sense 100k and I love it. Getting 25 ish on the highway. Does very little city driving. It's nice being able to go 600 miles on a tank.. granted never get past quarter of a tank. And only use ExxonMobil diesel.

Had my bottom end explode at 21,000k. It started as a super light tick on acceleration. Ran it hard trying to make a ferry reservation and when I got off the ferry this slight tick. I noted it right away and took it in for an oil change and had them listen, dealership didn't make note of it. 2 months of this light tick, was cruising started to hear a louder tick like a rock in a tire, but tied to the rpm. Within 15km it got bad, loud knocking. I couldn't get over and shut it off in time and blew a hole in the side of the block. As you said, they replaced the whole engine. 70K on the new engine no problems. I think it's a small number of these from the factory have this issue. A very select few people have had a second engine die on them but the vast majority have been fine. Your right on needing to drive them. 80km a day when I commute and I've never seen the regen message until I did a week of around town driving and saw the message saying it was 80% full and tells me to drive it at highway speeds, it wasn't hours as your mentioning but a good 20-25km to get it the filter back below 20% full. You need to get it fully warm which takes 10km and then put on a good 15km on it to keep the regen from showing. The lag is bad, it's super bad if the truck is cold, and outright horrible if you go up a 20% sloped driveway while cold. The truck wants to shift out of 1st as quickly as possible into 2nd, then cuts the power bringing the truck nearly to a stop and need to mash the petal to get it to shift back down. This environmentally friendly tune kills this engines performance. My 2018 came with this tune that's now been applied to earlier models so I've never known what it's like to have no lag. Everyone says get it tuned which is the plan once the warranty is over. Fixes the lag, more power and a lot better mpg.

@TheGettyAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the info! all in all do you think you would buy the eco diesel again or would you go with something like the HEMI? it is interesting how you said the second engine you received is much better. I wonder if Chrysler did make a fix to the newer engines. only time will tell I guess!

@tonydewaal7581

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Yeah that's what I was leaning towards from what I've gleamed off of forums. They done something in the replacement engines to make sure customers aren't burned twice. I had the identical truck with a hemi, a late production 2013 one of the first to have the 8 speed. The hemi is faster, and will always sound so much better but even with the 4" lift and 35" tires on my ecodiesel the truck still gets better mileage then my hemi did. My 2013 had odd issues with the uconnect system crashing and the truck had chronic brake issues, brakes sticking, pads falling off, bad warped rotors, which my 2018 seems to be completely clear of. The fuel saving was the number one thing I was looking for so I would get the ecodiesel again if I was looking for a half ton truck, even with the lag issue. I would likely pick up a 3rd gen in the new trucks hoping they've addressed these issues in the engines redesign.

@TheGettyAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonydewaal7581 funny you mention braking issues. my 2017 truck still has the factory pads and rotors with 91,000km on the thing. over 10,000km of towing. either I have been lucky or they upgraded their factory brakes for the later model trucks Very interesting how you would still go with the Eco diesel but I guess if fuel savings is important, you really can't beat it. I used to drive a 96 chev so when I upgraded to a 2017 hemi I was almost in shock how much more fuel efficient it was compared to the 350 small block in the chev lol either way I appreciate your first hand feedback on the old Eco diesel.

@chantelrhine8965

2 жыл бұрын

Thrown rod because bad bearing. Lesson to learn when your block is ticking fix it or she gone be missing

@Fab-ec8os

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee ecodiesl with 180,000 miles on it still no issues. I also drive it along. Think that's the key oil changes and driving it. Also noticed after the recall there is a lag but good away after warmed up. Love the Jeep. Hopefully it stays that way. Agree the problem is with a small amount of them!

Hello from Barrie. I Literally just got my 2022 Ram Rebel echo diesel. I had the 2019 GMC AT4 6.2L and hand nothing but problems with it from the day I brought it home. I’m hoping to get many years of enjoyment out of this Rebel. Love it so far. Thanks for the information.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome man hopefully she runs well for you!

I bought one the first year they came out tin 2014. I still have it. All recalls completed. I love it.

Greatly appreciate this video. Now going to see your hemi information. This video told me because I live so close to work to avoid the diesel engine.

Very honest review, congratulations 👌👍

Thanks for the honest review man.

I've had all 3 generations of this motor.... all of these problems are mostly for the first gen motors. My first gen 2015 had 290k miles when I traded it for the second gen ecodiesel had it 6 months and it was great. Ran it up to 130k miles and i got hit and totaled it out. Now I got a 3rd gen ecodiesel jeep and at 15k I've had good luck. My first gen had emissions issues and I deleted it. Only reason I got rid of it is because the trans lost 3rd and 5th gears.

Enjoyed watching this video man! I wanted to get a 21’ Ram Rebel 3.0 EcoDiesel but went with a 21’ F-150 3.0 Powerstroke. Any thoughts on ecodiesel vs Powerstroke vs duramax in the 3.0 setup?

@chrisworm195

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone has experience with pedal commander? It really makes up for the lack of acceleration

One thing about these reviews it’s like comparing apples to oranges if you want gasoline jump get that if you want a diesel that’s what you gonna get if you tune em the life on externals shortens in my opinion I got a 2022 i drove from st louis to mobile al off of one tank at 70 to 85 mph best truck in the world to me just cause of that

I bought my 16 back in 18. It had 27k miles. I've had not 1 issue. I'm at 160k miles now. I never had the recall done to it. On 33's I'm getting 26 mpg. I love mine and will be looking into getting a new eco in the future

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

man a lot of folks are saying they love their eco diesels. I'm not an owner so I can only go off second experience but a lot of people love them. I personally would buy another Hemi before the Eco diesel but no engine is perfect so pick your poison I guess

@jackb9812

2 жыл бұрын

If you didn’t do the recall you didn’t get the $3750

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackb9812 really?? okay so apparently in Canada you weren't able to get any money either way. but for almost 4k I'd probably get it done as well

@jackb9812

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Yes the US govt levied huge fines and the owners got $3750. But you had to do the recall and file a claim . Took several months but obviously worth it.

@swampkat7074

2 жыл бұрын

Mines the same 2016 on 33s and did the recall and back and forth from the shop cause of the def issues

You should differentiate between the previous generation EcoDiesel, which was the subject of the recall that you mention, and the newest version of the EcoDiesel that was introduced in North America with the current generation RAM trucks in 2019. The two engines are very different, with the newer model being vastly superior in every point that you mentioned.

I have a 2015 EcoDiesel and it has been a great truck it has 170000 on it. I drive it everyday and I drive it hard. I tow my boat and my trailer with my truck. It has had a couple of minor issues like the toner wheel and a couple O2 sensors but it was all covered under the extended free warranty for doing the update. Also got a $3,500 settlement check from Dodge for the lawsuit from the government and for doing the update also. I do all my own oil changes and I do them before 10000 miles. I buy my oil filter and fuel filter off of eBay and I get Rotella oil every time. I drive this truck so much that I have worn out my driver side seat pad and have to replace it. The only thing that's ever been customised on this would be the cold air intake. This has been an excellent truck.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

pays to drive these things hard. folks who tend to take this engine to get groceries and back usually aren't having the same luck!

I love the sound diesels make, don't take away our freedom sounds, also I have a lbz so I am just watching cause this sounds interesting, good job

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

LBZ's have a great sound.

@zacknelson8918

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures 4in straight pipe from the downpipe pipe no kitty and the pipe is a side dump infringed of rear tire and kida hidden away, love the sound it makes when going up hill while on the gas or the dmax whine when gunning it

Love my 2015 ram ecodiesel 2 years owned. Pulls a 38 foot camper. 79k miles

@Natedoc808

4 ай бұрын

what's the GVWR on your camper, and how does the truck do towing it? I'm looking to get one of these but also tow a 7000lb trailer regularly for family trips. any information would be very helpful

From the teardowns I've seen on this engine, the failure point was in the main bearings losing oil, then spinning. I can see why Mopar made a spec change in the oil viscosity in order to try and combat this. I had one and it treated me fine, but I was trading fairly often then and traded it in on a new hemi. For me, the additional pain of having to buy DEF and the expensive oil changes just wasn't worth it. I found myself always listening and on the alert for trouble. With the hemi, it's just gas n' go. The vm motori is a cool engine though!

@baileyhatfield4273

2 жыл бұрын

People always say AH JUNk HEmiS and thEiR Cam LifteER pROblEms. Well, a lot of shops around barely know it's an issue. Let alone it probably not even doing 2% of the vehicles at most. Take care of it, beat it up a little and try not to idle for 15 hours at once. All i can say.

@isilence4558

2 жыл бұрын

We’re you towing with it? If yes, are you still towing with the hemi?

@Wozzaatwozza

2 жыл бұрын

I heard it was the oil and they switched to Shell oil. Change the oil often to get the emission cleaning gunk removed, and install oil catch can.

@omnip0d

10 ай бұрын

A known issue has been the fact that it takes so long for the new oil to make it into the pan, I've read you want to wait at least 30 minutes before starting it up after an oil change. Imagine that you take the truck into Jiffy Lube, would they be aware of this? They want to get that thing off the rack ASAP.

@victreyln7195

7 ай бұрын

@@baileyhatfield4273 I had a lifter replaced and it was the most annoying thing I’ve ever dealt with on a vehicle. It was through warranty.

I had a 22 Rebel EcoDiesel and it did lag, however once it did hit, it would cycle through the gears so quick. Now I have an EcoDiesel Jeep Wrangler with the Banks Derringer, and holy moly, this thing pulls so hard that the left side tweaks on acceleration. You can see the twist in the body looking out the windshield. But both of these are 3rd generation variants of the 3.9.

Yeah, let’s take a moment to remember here that rub there is an eco-diesel sold by ram, but there is no “mini power stroke“ sold by Ford because it was junk and you could only buy it in the highest trim level Ford pick up which was about 80 grand And they stop selling them because all of them, all of them! Failed don’t buy Ford junk. The eco-diesel is absolutely reliable and bulletproof. My brothers has 280,000 miles and it drives just like it did off the showroom floor, five years later zero problems And he cruises down the highway at 28 miles per gallon at 70 miles an hour cannot beat tha! Don’t forget, don’t buy Ford junk!

@derekmortensen1665

2 ай бұрын

I have a 2018 f-15o platinum and it’s a piece of shit. Nothing but problems from that truck.

Hey man thanks for the video. I’m looking for a new tow vehicle and I’m stuck between the two engines you demonstrated. I live only four miles from work so that’s something to consider. I like that the hemi has a bit higher tow rating. Anyway thanks a lot.

@TheGettyAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Hemi all the way. the Eco diesels are trouble in the best situations. since you live so close to work I would almost say the Eco diesel isn't even an option for you. the fuel economy is tempting but the hemi is just a simpler engine with less things to go wrong.

I had a 2016 ram with the eco diesel and once the recall was done on the emissions stuff it would take 2-3 seconds to accelerate from a stop when cold. Once it was warmed up or about 5 minutes of driving it wasn’t as noticeable. I ended up getting rid of it once the tone wheel broke in half, which is what helps with timing. This was replaced under a recall notice that FCA had for this known issue. Great that it was replaced at no cost because the transmission had to be dropped in order to replace it due to the location.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the difference between accelerating in the HEMI vs the Eco diesel from a stop was night and day. I mean at least FCA did fix the issue under warranty. I've heard some horror stories about FCA refusing to replacer stuff under warranty for whatever reason.

I own a 2014 Ram Ecodiesel Regular cab, 8 foot bed, 4x4. Once I got a warning displayed on the gauge cluster warning me that the DPF was at 90% capacity and I needed to get it up to temp to clear it out. I live 2 minutes from a highway and within 15 minutes it had completed the cycle. It lags when it is cold, but after 5 to 10 minutes the truck is significantly more responsive.

@GanTreFTW

2 жыл бұрын

How many miles on yours?

Hey man ! I love you videos So I'm trying to get a ecodiesel ram 1500 is my first time using diesel So you recommend me to buy the ecodiesel? Because I've heard some bad reviews

You are correct...I own a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with the Ecodiesel motor. At first it was great...I was averaging 23 mpg on 37" tires then I started getting DEF exhaust problems. The dealerships dont have an abundance of diesel mechanics so the repair times are longer. Parts are not readily available either. When the alarm comes on you lose power as well....now I know why JEEP decided to discontinue this motor next year. Great review!!!!

Thank you for a very imformative video. I am actually in the process of getting a 2016 Ecodiesel. And I will be using it more for my commute to work which is 100km to work and back home total. In terms of towing, I dont plan on doing any towing anytime soon, but good to know I have this convenience if I ever decide to use it for towing since I am in the construction field. One question I have is, with Diesel prices now a days at approximately $1.80, how much would a full tank generally cost and how long does a full tank if imlast me, if im doing mainly highway driving.

The DPF hates short trips and idling--period. Ford figured this out on their Super Duty 6.7 pickups. Many of those run in commercial fleets where idling and short trips can be an operational necessity. Ford offers an option on the Super Duty (though not available on some of the upper trim levels) that allow the driver to do a stationary regen when the DPF hits 80% or more full. I have that option on my Super Duty and have had to use it several times over the years. If the truck is at operating temperature, a stationary regen will take 10 minutes (engine at 2,000 RPM). In colder weather or if the exhaust temperature is low, it will take longer. Yes, it wastes fuel, but it beats having to "drive to clean" that may not only be inconvenient, but in some conditions may be impossible. As to the 3.0 Ecodiesel, the early ones had a huge failure rate. This latest generation may be better, but I wouldn't buy one until they get a few years under their belt to see if they will hold up. In my opinion, the best of the half-ton diesel engines is the GM 3.0L Duramax. Same story, though, I wouldn't buy one until they've been out for at least a few years.

@travischristensen746

2 жыл бұрын

cough cough delete cough

Very informative video, awesome job. I actually was signing papers for an 2018 eco diesel but I backed out of the deal. I’m glad I did after watching your video. My biggest complaint was the lack of power and the dealership told me that’s how they are... every other Diesel engine I’ve driven has tons of low end power but this one was very slow. Bought a 2016 5.7 and I can’t love it enough! Looking forward to future videos ! Cheers

@TheGettyAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Ya that was my first time driving the eco diesel and it shocked me how slow it was to accelerate from a stand still. I drive big 16 liter diesel and they basically jump out of 1st gear just so much low end power as a diesel should. So it was shocking to feel the eco diesel lag. The 5.7 is a great option for most people. for the most part simple and has plenty of power.

@ramecodiesel8271

3 жыл бұрын

To bad you backed out all you need to do is purchase the Green Diesel Engineering Hot Tune/Trans Tune and the ecodiesel is a great engine.

@taraaaron1242

2 жыл бұрын

The 2021 has power and gets great mpg. In my gladiator even with 37 inch tires

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@taraaaron1242 I've heard the newer engines have better power. Hopefully they hold up well.

@johnthielen2600

2 жыл бұрын

@@ramecodiesel8271 where do you go for these tunes, do you have a shop do it or is it software you just input

Had a 2015 ecodiesel, had oil cooler leak issue that Jeep didn't want to fix. Put over $4k into it and still not right. Ended up trading in at end of lease. Other than that loved it!

What’s the best way to fix the pedal lag and what are your recommended upgrades for the truck

hey i really enjoyed this video! I live in Kitchener, ON, likely not far from you😊, and these days i am looking at buying a diesel truck or SUV. In regards to the negatives you mentioned about the diesel version, would you say that a 2014 mercedes ml350 bluetech (same engine i belive) , have the some long term issues, and the same warnings would apply to this suv (ml350) ???

Thanks for the information, looking to pick up a 2014 eco diesel I drive one way 600 plus kilometers to work once every two weeks. Plus going through a lot of snow before would be really decent in my eyes.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

If you drive pretty long distances you should be okay. I'd still be cautious I just don't think those engines are well built especially those first gen Eco diesels, they were known to have a lot of issues.

My is from 2014 and really is fantastic no problem with the engine I love my truck

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

a lot of people are saying they love these engine and that's awesome! personally I think there are some flaws but no engine is perfect and if you like it then that's all that matters!

Great review. What are your thoughts as to why they got rid of it?

All you need to do is purchase the Green Diesel Engineering Hot Tune/Trans Tune and you will have a entirely new vehicle in the way it drives, the Hot Tune will give you an additional 34 HP and 60 Lbs Ft of torque bumping you to 254 HP and 480 Lbs Ft torque. The GDE tune eliminates the throttle lag you talked about. You also do not have to drive the truck for hours to complete a ReGen of the Diesel Particle Filter my 2019 Ram 1500 Classic Laramie Ecodiesel will complete a ReGen in about 13 miles. The bottom end bearing issue was because FCA specced 5w-30 oil they have since found that the 30 weight oil did not have a strong enough film strength so they changed to 5w-40 oil because the 40 weight oil has a strength film strength to protect the bottom end bearings. A lot of mis information in this video.

@ktm450sxpro111

2 жыл бұрын

W in oil stands for Winter fyi. If you want a diesel just go with a heavy duty dodge or Chevy. The half ton motors are junk regardless if they are gas or diesel.

Had a 2014, best 80000 miles I ever drove in a truck. I have a 3500 Dually now and I miss the comfort of that ecodisel. You are spot on though with your review. I drove 45 mins twice a day to work. The truck never even mentioned anything about Regen or had any issues., But the previous owner had it bought back from FCA at 10k miles because he drove it to the grocery store and back. This is a commuter truck.

@seanbutler2291

Жыл бұрын

So you got rid of it before it was even at 100,000 miles, I don't know how that proves anything for you, any vehicle should be able to do 100,000 miles trouble free. I mean it's cool that you enjoyed it but it certainly doesn't mean that it's a good engine or reliable because even the shittiest of engines these days should be hitting at least 100,000 miles fairly trouble free. Also a "commuter truck" is an oxymoron.

@Tac0312

Жыл бұрын

@@seanbutler2291 A commuter truck because no other half ton was better on mileage. Not even v6 gassers. It was better on the highway than my wife's CX-9, so yeah it was a truck and better than most cars other than tiny eco cars economically making it not an oxymoron. I upgraded campers so a half ton want appropriate anymore. Not all modern engines last 100k, and people were complaining of cam failures and engines failing well before 50k hence the post.

I’ll keep my old 12 valve Cummins. No computer snd over 435,000 miles. Twelve valves are the best engine ever put in a pickup

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

those old Cummins were pretty strong engines. what would be awesome is if those engines used liners so you could easily rebuild them in the chassis.

@robsnodgrass915

2 жыл бұрын

hear here

@panthermartin7784

2 жыл бұрын

U turn into an old guy and who the heck wants to hear or smell a 12V anymore.

@dieselram05

2 жыл бұрын

@@panthermartin7784 it’s a shame these new diesels are so quiet. A old 12 valve will still be running long after most of these newer diesels are gone. And as far as smell? Well it’s a diesel…

@panthermartin7784

2 жыл бұрын

@@dieselram05 Hell man I understand , been around them my whole life , owned them, worked on them, traded them, sold them, just tonight rolled into my fav elk hunting spot in a PowerWagon, dead quiet, no stink in the air, I dunno, think Im gonna do the gas pot thing for a bit , mind you my buddy just bought a property and in the barn sits a very muddy 91 cummins 1 ton , looks like its been parked for 20 years and he has no interest in keeping the truck... LoL, here we go again.......

I have a 2016 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4x4 3.92 ratio Ecodiesel, lifted 2" with 33"tires. My wife has a 2018 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4x4 3.42 ratio 6.7 Cummins, stock height with 33"tires. The main bearing issue on the ecodiesel comes from drivers turning off the engine with a hot turbo. I use a Bank's iDash mounted on the pilar. To tell me how close the coolsnt and the oil temperatures are. When both are in the desired range, I will shit the engine down. My truck sees a lot of highway miles on speed control. The engine has 162,226 miles. With 56 idle hours and 3285 drive hours. I did not drive it much in the last year. Because I bought a new Dodge Durango. To deal with a tighter parking situation a my job. But I did take a trip in the past 2 weeks that took me from California to Colorado, then up to Northern Idaho and back to California. I did have a little side trip, towing a U-haul trailer for a nephew. That I went from Colorado into Southern Washington after first going to Idaho. And then back to up to Northern Idaho. A total of just under 4,000 miles. The truck ran beautiful, with lots of power. The truck does have a Bank's silencer delte kit. And a Flowmaster 50 series Big Block 3" inlet and single outlet muffler. The fuel economy used to be outstanding. But I let a tire shop change the oil when getting new tires. And they overfilled it. Then the PCV picked the excess oil. Fouling the intake. And with the EGR issues, the intake got very gunked up. If I did not use Hot Shots Secret products in the fuel. The DPF and the SCR would be gunked up. I understand from some friends with the gen 3 Ecodiesel. The engine now has an 8 quart sump capacity, rather than 10.5. And the EGR gas is taken after the DPF and the SCR. I shouldn't really complain about the fuel economy. I averaged 23mpg, even with the trailer and going over many high mountain passes up to over 10,000ft. I averaged 65-70mph as allowed. The only thing is on a similar trip in 2017. I averaged 28mpg. And that included driving 105mph across some of the flat parts of US-50 in Nevada. And 80mph, as posted in Utah. With 75mph in the spots that 75mph was the speed limit. If my parking situation had not changed. I would have bought a 2020 Ecodiesel. But keep in mind. Diesels are lean burn engines. They love lots of air. And to get out and run with a load! Idling is not a diesel thing.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

So it seems like you run your eco diesel in the perfect way lol. long drives to get everything up to operating temperature. You seem very knowledgeable about the engine which is awesome and probably why you won't experience issues. But imagine the average person just buying an ram 1500 with an eco diesel simply because they want good fuel mileage, without knowing anything about how to properly maintain them. that's where I think a lot of these issues arise. is the consumer thinking this engine is just like any gas engine. As for the main bearing issues I'm curious why you say a hot turbo causes that.

@zxej6879

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures I have a class A drivers license. When I drove for C.R. England when the electronically controlled diesels were introduced. The Cummins N14 manually discussed this problem. And the operating procedure to prevent it. I currently am a Stationary Engineer. The emergency generators at the facilities that I work at. All have an automated procedure for shutdown. That cools the turbo.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@zxej6879 very interesting. I mean I've always heard that you want to let the turbo spool down before shutting down the engine( if lets say you were high idling the truck) But i guess it does makes sense you would want a cool turbo

Part of that lag in the acceleration from a stop may have something to do with the 8spd transmission they got it paired to and the fact that the first few gears are extremely close together. I notice it more when I don't have a trailer behind me and the tow/haul is off.

I have a 2016 Laramie. I put a Pedal Commander in it… Huge improvement with the lag.

Can you tell me if the 3rd gen has those tiny main bearings that fail, and if the valve timing gear will have the same issues? The one thing I do like with gen 3 is it uses post DPF egr … so no soot that is so problematic in clogging up exhaust flaps. Good rundown on known issues, one other you forgot was failed oil coolers. Perhaps that has been addressed by recall. That’s a nightmare as you wind up with oil sludge in the water jacket that requires persistent heavy chemical flushes to get right. Not to mention residual sand from the block casting process.

My 2015 Ecodiesel cratered when I was passing. Luckily it was covered under warranty. I never floor it now. I am wondering if the 2023 is worth purchasing before they stop selling them. I am not keen to the Duramax and the high maintenance costs of the timing belt, etc. Comments are welcome! Thanks

I am just about to pull the trigger on a 2018 big horn ecodiesel at the dealer. Has 122k on it, and extended warranty for another year or 160k. Has a check engine light on and they have an egr cooler ordered for it. I took it for a run and I really like how it drives minus the bit of lag. Coming from a 2014 ram hemi. Any thoughts?

My EGR cooler started leaking.. decided to do a full exhaust delete... WOW what a difference. No more lag, better fuel economy and 80 more torque.

@philliprader6298

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome. How much more mpg?

@glebglebglebgleb

Жыл бұрын

@@philliprader6298 they say 5% improvement. Never really calculated it but I'm around 10-11L/100k combined city.and highway

My eco diesel was amazing! Then at 43,000kms it just decided to blow a hole in the side of the engine block. No abuse, regular maintenance, all recalls done. Just commuting home from work and “BOOM”.

Got mine tuned and EGR deleted. Increased power and picked up 4 to 5 mpg. Also regens went from about every 3 days to about every 3 weeks. Also without the EGR, the oil stays way cleaner. Also solves the problem with the map sensor sooting up, intake has cleaned itself up after 10,000 miles of driving after tuning. Great engine tuned, crap with stock tuning

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it 100%, a solid tune alone on these trucks would solve a lot of issues. an EGR delete is also a probably a great way to go.

I only feel the turbo lag in my 2018 eco when the engine is cold. Once it's warmed up the power band is smooth.

I wish you would had given some indication what year this engine was that you were making a video on? Because as of 2020 the eco diesel engine has been totally redesigned so I have no idea which engine you’re commenting on

Well now I am somewhat wishing I saw this video a a couple of weeks ago before I bought my 2018 Ram Ecodiesel. This is my first truck purchase and reason I bought it is I built a log cabin about 6.5 hrs north of us and will be going up there about once a month, probably 1,500 km per trip....so liked the appeal of the fuel efficiency and utility. But I work from home and the truck will see mostly city driving except for the 100-200 km trip every weekend. It only has 51Km on it and we bought an extended warranty (FCA gold plan) up until April 2023, so will be covered under that for the time being. BUT, within a day of buying it, the engine light came on and codes P1288 and P20EE were generated, so the dealer already has to replace the cat. Would this be concerning or a typical issue, would there be anything else I should should look at related to this? I am stuck with it now either way, the warranty provides some piece of mind for sure, so my primary concern is what can I do to ensure I get the most life out of this engine, any specific recommendations, driving, maintenance, mods that won't put me offside with the FCA warranty? Also would flushing the DEF system now be helpful? How often should I change the oil, stick to the recommended 10k or do 6km? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Our company had a few of these fail. They were the older 2015 models. Bearing failure was the biggest issue

I had a 2008 charger all wheel drive with a hemi. Man did that thing pull on the freeway.

Maintenance is key and that is with anything really. My ‘15 ecodiesel has 180k and still running stong. I had rear airbags and fuel filters replaced. A few recalls such as crank sensor. Overall, I’m still happy and will buy again.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

if you are happy with your truck than that's all that matters!

@colinwynowsky2835

2 жыл бұрын

Mine just blew the bottom end at 184,000 km's. FCA told me to pound salt, $20k to replace. I drive 50km each way to work every day, 55000km last year and took great care of my truck. So frustrating. Hope you have better luck then I did!

@CharBar07

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinwynowsky2835 Thanks. Reading experiences like yours still worries me tho. The fiat motor hasn’t proven itself to be reliable compared to Cummins.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinwynowsky2835 tough luck man. seems like once these things are out of warranty FCA don't really care

I bought my 2015 based on all the reviews... from 2016... I've had a mediocre experience at best. I would HIGHLY recommend a tune. I go through SFT and the drivability is night and day.

Great review of the history and the issue with the engine. Glad u didn't say anything about transmission. LOL!. I'm in my 2018 ecodiesel at 103K. Do you think reprogramming/re-tunning the engine to what it was like before emissions pressure came down on RAM would solve some of these catastrophic problems? What can one to prevent catastrophic issues? Maybe replace something like high pressure fuel pump with heavy dutyaftermarket , I don't know.... I d love to do all I can to take it to 300-400k. Thanks!

My dad ran this truck for the better part of a few years before it blew up, ran a construction company out of it and tows his boat. Said the fuel economy was wicked, but it blew up within what 4 years. Extended warranty didn’t want to cover it and ended up only wanting to give 13000$ and he bought it new, has an f-150 tt v6 and will never go back to diesel or dodge.

@modernbassheads5051

Жыл бұрын

Wait till the ford blows up, they call it ecoboom for a reason

@knightfall7534

Жыл бұрын

@@modernbassheads5051 it’s been 3 years now and it’s going strong so we will see. But frankly dodge really doesn’t care enough about quality control to be a legit option for everyday use. We had fords before the dodge and those never blew up either. It’s the first truck to do so.

First off, great review! I do have to disagree with your comment about how long it takes to regen the emissions scrubber. I have a 2014 eco-diesel with all emissions intact and updates done, but most of my driving is in town so every six or eight weeks the info center tells me I need to drive on the highway to scrub the filter. I’m in a different climate than you (St. Petersburg, Florida) so the warmer temperatures might make a difference… I hop on the interstate for 5 miles, turned around, 5 miles back and it’s done! Probably 10 minutes at most. I keep a careful eye on the DEF tank gauge, but I don’t seem to need much of it. In the last six months I’ve driven 9000 miles and it’s only used a half a tank of DEF fluid, just two or 3 gallons. The mileage on this thing is incredible! In town I’m averaging 18 to 21 miles per gallon, and on the highway between 28 and 34, depending on my speed. I absolutely love the truck! 😊

Had a tone ring failure fall of 2021. Became a recall issue and Chrysler paid for repair. Bad part of the issue was due to parts not available it took 2 months to get parts. Had emissions issues as well both times $300 sensor needed to be replaced. Sold the truck always afraid of what would fail next. It only had 90,000 miles.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

These engines are a tough look for ram. Not a bad idea to sell the truck lol

Ridgeline for the Algorithm. Good info, cool to know your trade. I have some basic welding under my belt.

@TheGettyAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh see welding is one of my weaker points. but to be fair we have a licensed welder at my shop so I've never really had to learn or had the opportunity to properly give it a good go

@takeahike2993

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures I changed my job once I transitioned to the reserve forces, wanted to learn a trade, chose welding. It was a hot, humid summer in the Gulf of Mexico, but a great learning experience. Ask if they’re willing to show you on something they could fix if you mess up, or trash metal. 🤙🏻

@TheGettyAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

@@takeahike2993 haha one of these days i'll take a weekend or two (or three) to get the basics down. It's honestly such a valuable skill, especially these days. A good welder is harder and harder to find.

@takeahike2993

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Good to know. I work in the computer field…hate it. So boring just sitting all day.

So I’m looking at the Ram Eco 3.0L vs the GMC Duramax 3.0L 2020. Both I have found have less than 50k miles. I have a commute everyday for work 84 miles round trip. It’s all highway there and I have to pull a lighter load (4-6k lbs) here and there. My silverado 6.2L just had the camshaft break (104k miles) and I’m tired of the laundry list of its issues. Does anyone have an opinion on either engine?

I had the emissions recall done on my Volkswagen Passat TDI and my car has terrible turbo lag now. My MPGs also dropped

I honestly love this truck! I have the 5.7l hemi but I would like to own one of these just to have one.

@sylermran

2 жыл бұрын

i love my hemi too but i would like a diesel for the fuel economy

@alexanderdrywall3043

2 жыл бұрын

@@sylermran plus the low end torque you get at lower rpms cannot be beat in a small half ton pick up.

Thanks for the awesome review. I agree that diesels make sense only if you're driving a lot, towing heavy loads, or carrying large weights all day long. Many years ago I had a 92 F350 diesel with the 7.3L naturally aspirated diesel. It was great on fuel for a truck of that size but when things went on it, it was huge money to repair knocking out any fuel savings you would have earned and that was when diesel was considerably cheaper than gas. Today diesel is equal to and sometimes more expensive than gas. Add in the extra up cost front and more expensive maintenance and repair and it doesn't really make much sense to get a diesel economically. The motor may last longer than a gas but usually the rest of the truck falls apart before the diesel reaches its end. On a side note, have you worked much on the 3.6 Pentastar V6 that's in the Ram? It always seems to be the forgotten child in the Ram engine family. Are they any good?

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

No I don't have any experience on the 3.6 pentastar but it seems like they are going to be getting a lot more recognition in the near future when they stop making the 5.7 hemi and turbo charge the pentastar and offer it up instead of the hemi lol

@seanbutler2291

Жыл бұрын

Bud it sounds like you need to do a better job at taking care of your shit. Those 7.3 naturally aspirated diesels were the most reliable diesels Ford ever made. End of story. If it was breaking down on you all the time then something was not managed correctly. Same goes with the rest of the pickup of it's falling apart you weren't managing something correctly. Maintenance is on you bud not the manufacturer. And those pentastars are horrible horrible motors. Go for the hemi if ur making that choice. The extra cash for a well maintained hemi will be worth it over the pentastar v6

@seanbutler2291

Жыл бұрын

@@joedifranco6045 the hemi literally had the record with the demon. So yeah already happened, if anything chevy and ford are the ones behind.

@SugarMilkbro

Жыл бұрын

@seanbutler2291 my buddy at work had a 7.3 diesel and it was a fucking monster. He gave 500 bucks for it. The whole truck was falling part but that drive train would not die. The bolts that hold the cab to the frame rusted out and we hit a big ditch at work and the sumbitch popped off 🤣

I had the high pressure fuel pump go on mine, luckily right before the warranty was up.. FCA was a GIANT pain in the ass to deal with, but begrudgingly replaced the long block and other affected parts.. not that its ecodiesel related, but dont even get me started on their 8.4 Uconnect radio... overall, love the truck, tows my 16ft boat like its not even there!

@djmjr77

2 жыл бұрын

If I had to do it over again, I would go with the tried and true Hemi 😅 i always like to do performance adders, and kinda worried to do anything with the ecodiesel..

2022 1500 with 3.92 rear. Regular gas, do you have any true numbers on fuel out of tow and it's a short 2min commuter. Thoughts?

Used commercially my ED got low on coolant from an EGR cooler leak and pushed a head gasket at 371k miles. They are disposable motors so I put a new motor in and bought an EGR cooler delete kit. 423k miles later it cracked a head. 🤷‍♂️ Business partner got 452k miles out of his before the fuel pump imploded and filled cylinder 3 with shrapnel. So no 500k yet but both trucks are still in service. Caveat we run aftermarket tunes that turn off the EGR soot recirculator and clean up the fuel management to improve longevity. Well and add turbo brake, better mileage, more power, less maintenance. Oil now only starts to get dark after 8k miles so it’s changed every 10k with T6 or equivalent per warranty. 30 mpg is good. Also with EGR (exhaust gas recirculator) turned off no clogged intakes to melt and cause the coolant to burn hence truck fires 🔥 {EPA should be held responsible for mandating EGR. It’s not even needed to meet emissions output requirements} Last caveat we don’t lug these trucks at low say 12 to 1500 rpms. We use tow mode and let them work at 1,900 rpms plus. Note none of our three motors failed from the common slipped crank bearings. Last if you are looking to buy, the 2020 plus truck & engine is dramatically improved. Enjoy

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment! great info, I think knowledge is key with these engines. and it seems like you are very knowledgeable and understand how to drive these things and it shows by the high mileage.

Absolutely agree! I have a 14 eco diesel and love it. Driving to Florida from sk is where it excels. 4km each way to the shop for work, at -45C? Not so much. For that, and to town, just traded second vehicle for ‘21 grand Cherokee with Hemi. Eco diesel I change oil at twice the recommended 16000km interval. Not sure that’ll stop the known issues, but have not hurt an engine with clean oil yet. Btw.. eco diesel will start at -35C not plugged in. Clearly don’t recommend it, just saying it will.. run C15 Cummins at work. Thanks for the fair comparison of the eco diesel and hemi. They do very well for about half the displacement.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

some cold nights in sk eh lol. not even sure if the hemi would start at -35. And yes exactly, driving longer distances is where these engines perform well.

@davewme

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures I was impressed. That’s why I figured I’d comment and share. I’ve started and ran it as low as -52C plugged in of course. Traded a 124 spider off on new Jeep. Car was parked in winter. And new shop at work is 4km away. So bought Jeep with hemi, last week. Way more practical. Better return on convertible mid summer. :)

@tribunation

2 жыл бұрын

How many miles on your ecodiesel?

@davewme

2 жыл бұрын

@@tribunation 116,000km. So about 70,000 miles

I got a Jeep gladiator with the new 3rd gen ecodiesel, and so far (7k miles) I love the darn thing. Here’s hoping it keeps running just fine for many years to come. I drive 40 miles round trip to work and back, so I figure 20 miles there and 20 miles home is probably enough to keep the filters clear.

@davidmopar8446

2 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome, ive been looking at one and dont know if i should go with the gas or diesel. Im just a bit nervous about that diesel engine.

@chuckk458

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmopar8446 I totally understand the nervousness.

@alekseyabramchuk6718

2 жыл бұрын

7 k miles???? Are you serious

Thank you for the review - 2nd Ecodiesel, no problem with either one - traded the 1st one in at 60k miles from a deal to the current one (2018) - only has 40k miles, but they are mostly highway. It needs to get up to operating temperature, run for hours, and change the oil every 6k; it's a diesel. Agree the turbo lag is annoying, but the interesting part is that it seems to minimize once the temperature is up (around 200), and it's the wrong setup to mash the pedal.

The lag is when it's cold. It just won't go, and then at 3/4 to the floor it takes off almost out of control. I think it is dangerous and needs another recall to fix it properly. The throttle response changes dramatically from cold to warm. The constantly changing response puts you in dangerous situations when you pull out into traffic and it doesn't go.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I mean it does seem odd how much of a difference it makes when the truck is cold vs hot. My guess would be something to do with emissions, when the engine and aftertreatment system is cold their emission efficiency isn't as good. meaning more "pollution" so it's probable that until both reach a certain temperature power is cut to help decrease emissions.

@court2379

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures I am sure it is emissions or not plugging the DPF up super fast. They found a solution for it on the gen 3 though, so recall the unsafe thing and fix it.

Had one. Had zero problems with it. Pulled a 7,000lb camper great, actually better than my 7.3 Excursion! It needed a better cooling system though,as temps would rise if you went near 70 mph while towing or went up steep hills. Other than that, it was great. Could get better than 30mpg driving it easy and 12 mpg pulling the camper, where the 7.3 was about 9 pulling a camper.

Never in my life have I had so many problems with a vehicle. I bought mine for the mileage it was supposed to make. It made 14-16mpg constantly in the shop with stupid issues. I owned my eco diesel for 1 year before calling it quits. I had a 2016 limited ecodiesel. 4 corner air ride is another problem in itself in the cold weather climates I live in.

@tomfox1751

Жыл бұрын

2D--you win!!! I haven't seen ANYONE get mileage that shitty. Most of the complaints I had seen were getting around 20 after one of those wonderful EPA pressured reflashes. Do you always have shit luck with cars?

@tumsshark

Жыл бұрын

@@tomfox1751 Not going to lie, bad luck does follow me. Don't get me started on Hyundai. haha! The eco-diesel takes the cake for the most continuous problems in a vehicle I've owned.

Yeah, I got the recall and immediately went back to the dealership to tell them that I almost got T-Boned leaving the dealership and that the truck wouldnt accelerate for almost a full 3 seconds at all from a dead stop, and they said the emissions doesnt effect it at all. Fast Forward two years, and when I leave in the morning, and merge onto the highway it takes almost a full 3 seconds to go from 0-30 MPH while turning the wheel to the right. In a straight line its fine, but on a turn it is a HUGE safety risk. 2018 EcoDiesel

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly crazy how much this emission recall totally crushed these engines. completely de-tuned them to make emission numbers. a lot of people are saying the 3rd gen eco diesel engine doesn't have this issue but who knows for sure until I can get my hands on one!

@tgh117

2 жыл бұрын

my buddy has a 2019 classic, he was having similar issues. dealer reflashed his about a week ago and the issues went totally away. Maybe try that?

@nickrobert5323

2 жыл бұрын

My 2016 isn't scared to giver a go.

@mudlifebraybraybrayboy6818

2 жыл бұрын

Buy a 9 drive helped out slot with mine no waiting at all got response

@court2379

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I pulled out onto a road with traffic going 50mph, with a good distance between the oncoming car. Certainly nothing that would ever normally give you any concerns as you would be up to speed with moderate acceleration before it gets close. I push the pedal, nothing, push more, nothing, push it almost all the way down, the car is on my bumper as the engine finally roars to life and it lurches away. It's just dangerous cold, and you cannot rely on it until it is fully up to temperature.

Did they ever fix the main bearing chowder issues

Nice review and warnings. I am about to look at one but ... My drive is typically 5 miles to WalMart or 13 miles one way to Sam's Club... though I hope to do some longer distance driving just for fun.

My father In law works for a remanufacturing plant that works with Chrysler Fiat and he said everything on the bottom end is made super weak and thin, so when they got them in they tried to turn down the contract as it would be a waste of time trying to fix.

@TheGettyAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Well that's no good, But I mean technically this is not supposed to be a heavy duty diesel engine but still you would think they would try and make it strong

Would you recommend the Cummins over the Ecodiesel?