Aww I love Raf! I was lucky enough to have some lessons with him about 10 years ago. He’s very encouraging of all athletes. Very interesting interview, hope his students do well in this next Olympic cycle 💪🏻

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

@mysticalmargaret6105

2 жыл бұрын

One of them, Nathan, did VERY well - Olympic champion! YAY! 🤘😎🥇⛸⛸🔥🔥🔥🚀🚀🚀

Just because athletes do not know that it’s wrong and they are “unknowingly” being “unclean,” doesn’t mean it’s fine to do for the athlete.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Of course, but that is why the IOC went after the federation/ROC.

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Just like the IOC went after the COC for Peng Shuai + the Uyghar genocide. Mr. Bach and his “quiet diplomacy.”

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov He’s in jail and all of the USA Gymnastics officials are pariahs - even Rhonda Faehn. The need to do more and prosecute all of them, decertify USAG, and get the help for all of the athletes is ongoing and a long process. I’m not going to get into a comparison fight with you.

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov What are you talking about, Eteri?

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov girl: her country and system did it to her. Stop with the dramatics in your holiday sweater on Channel 1.

So the Russians have been using cardiac medications to increase endurance in training for years! I'm even more furious than I was before I watch this interview. If Valieyva isn't disqualified the sport of figure skating will be permanently discredited. Not to mention the Olympic movement.

The fact that the athletes don't know they're doing something wrong makes this so sad! They make a lot of sacrifices for their dream and everything goes to waste because they put their faith and carreer in the wrong hands...

Excellent interview and I think Raf Did a great job explaining the context. When you’re in the aquarium water is water. You don’t know what kind of water, unless you go into another kind of aquarium into another kind of water… OH, maybe that was a specific kind of water? I’ve been living in the US now for 25ish years and understand exactly what he’s talking about. We really cannot fault the athletes in too many occasions, even other individuals in the system exactly, maybe shades of gray - but it is the system; and systems have a lot of inertia against change. It takes time and pressure usually. Complicated…

Soon after her mother's condition began improving, however, Slutskaya experienced severe fatigue and swelling in the legs, which several hospitals struggled to correctly diagnose.[5] She missed most of the 2003-04 season. Although doctors told her that she should stay away from the cold, she elected to compete at the 2004 World Championships and finished ninth. She was diagnosed ultimately with vasculitis.[1][6] In 2005, Slutskaya made a comeback after a long stay at a hospital. The season would be her most dominant ever - for the only time in her career she went undefeated, winning every competition she entered.

@daniellewiszhall3481

2 жыл бұрын

If my memory serves me correctly, Frank also mentioned Irina’s use of substances in his interview with Dave…

Listening to this in context of today’s revelation about Valieva… (Thank you Dave for your work!)

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Raf is awesome, I love this exclusive interview Dave, thank you! And how prophetic, considering the current Olympic Team Event scandal! It shouldn't have come as a shock to me, but it still did! And it's especially disturbing because it involves a child being given unnecessary heart medication by some quack Russian doctor, with other adults around her fully aware of this!

@mrmosk2011

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I feel bad for the young Russian athletes, who are controlled by the coach. This is why I think they should ban the coaches and blacklist them. Especially ones that coach minors.

What happened in Russia today that made you Dave repost this? I can't find anything online please Thank you very much.

Excellent work, Dave!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Reading all these comments and I am like "Did you really not read the Fu^%ing description?"

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️💯🤣

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

People make comments like that to distract from the content. They will find something to attack in order to ignore the obvious.

Good job on this interview, Dave!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

I love Raf. He's a breath of fresh air. I love that he teaches the youngsters (without aggressively damaging their bodies) and Olympic ready athletes. What interesting commentary from someone who "knows" the system. Bless you Raf, the sport is all the better for having you support it.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

What a fascinating interview. It's true that no system can keep up with all the ways around it on paper - there will always be new drugs marketing themselves as different. What keeps it together is, as Raf says, a system where officials will independently and fairly adjudicate and individual athletes in it are also willing to intrinsically put integrity over the quick win. What's interesting to me is that the culture around doping seems to always come with a need to justify their actions with a wider cultural view ("everyone does it" for example) - projecting one's behaviour to something that is normal for everyone else. I think our psyche knows when our integrity has been breached and it needs to come up with justifications for the dissonance. Maybe one day we will respect the human body's limitations and need for recovery time with grace as part of a true sport rather than as a weakness.

Raf is talking about Irina during the 1998-99 season, right? All of a sudden she gets a triple lutz/triple loop in 2000.

“Different mentality about everything.” 🙄

What I find remarkable is the discipline of all those committed pro-Russian (State doping) lobbyists that are commenting here. When they realize you have the receipts and don't mind taking the time and answering their "cheap shot attacks", they immediately back off and stop interacting with you, no matter how "fake-offended" they may have sounded at first, so as to not give you any further platform for others to read. They'll rather go somewhere else and start from scratch. It's both sad and fascinating. Is there a school to learn this craft, I wonder.

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov "without their knowledge"? lol. When you talk about "collective punishment", what exactly do you mean? Kamila will get to go to the Olympics, she will very likely win Gold, she will very likely also win Team Gold. She'll very likely walk away from the Olympics with 2 gold medals. You keep on saying she's "punished" because she doesn't get to "represent the convicted criminal entity that is the Russian state". I think she'll gladly take that deal since she still gets to keep her 2 gold medals. All that effort you're putting in to try and get the rest of the world to stop punishing Russia for its state doping... Did you ever consider putting that same effort into trying to get the Russian state to STOP its state doping? If, as you say, "Russian athletes know nothing about state doping", then those Russian athletes must be hoping that Russia will finally put an end to its state doping - since they don't benefit from it at all, and only suffer since the entire world suspects they are benefitting from it. Just a reminder about Sochi: The Russian athletes were told way ahead of the Olympics that their urine and blood samples would NOT get tested, but instead replaced with "clean" samples. And you believe those Russian athletes knew nothing about "the Russian state doping"? lol. Try and compare "Russia at the Olympics" today to "Germany at the Olympics after the second World War". German athletes still got to go to the next Olympics, they just "didn't get to have the swastika flag blowing in the wind to represent". They got the German flag, a symbol of something new. IF those athletes had said "they insist on wanting to represent the Nazi Germany flag", then they would not have been allowed to go. (or they would just have been laughed at and told to shut up.)That's the place in the world your Russian state doping program has earned you and the Russian athletes: It's a shameful symbol of organized crime and deception, and has no place at the Olympics. If Russia changes its ways, it'll be worthy again to be represented at the Olympics. Fingers crossed.

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov Russia was given very specific tasks to redeem itself from all the doping wrongdoing in the years following Sochi. Russia refused to comply. Hence why Russia got banned. If you want Kamila to represent Russia at the Olympics, get Russia to stop its criminal activities and mass propaganda aiming at detracting from its criminal activities. But I forgot... You are contributing to the mass propaganda. Trying to deflect from Russia's refusal to stop its illegal activities by instead pointing the finger at anything else, anything trivial you can try and make out to be "relevant". Have you watched the documentary I asked you to? Have you read (at least the recap of) the McLaren report? those show clearly why Russia is banned. If you don't like Russia getting compared with Nazi Germany, then maybe work towards stopping Russia from being the rogue state it currently is. Yes, the international reputation of Russia IS just that bad.

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov just yesterday: "The Supreme Court of Russia orders the closure of Memorial, Russia's oldest human rights group, for violations of the foreign agent law. The UN human rights office in Geneva described the rulings as "further weaken[ing] the country's dwindling human rights community"." Yup. Nothing to see here. It's all fine.

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov Happy new year. So you're telling me that the UN human rights office in Geneva is wrong. OK. Good to know. Have you read the McLaren report yet?

Some of the younger athletes may not even have a clue what’s going on. If a ‘doctor’ is giving you something, how is a kid to know? Or even be brave enough to challenge it? They’d be kicked out of the camp! if it’s described as a vitamin or supplement they will just take it. In an intense environment, when no one is independent or looking out for your welfare, one slip up and you’re out. In these circumstances, these young athletes aren’t responsible. they may not even be aware or understand anything is wrong or suspicious if they’ve been sheltered from such a young age doping may not even be on their radar. No names mentioned!

@theprinceoftides6836

2 жыл бұрын

Sad but true.

@twinklejelly123

2 жыл бұрын

True, and it is sad, but if you let the athletes compete under the flag of their country, what's to stop that country doing it again and again? It might be unfair on an athlete, but the blame is their fed for abusing the system, not the system itself. Frankly, even the token removal of flag/anthem is hardly a strong enough deterent.

@My-hat

2 жыл бұрын

@@twinklejelly123 agree totally! I was just saying in many circumstances the athlete isn’t entirely to blame and coaches don’t get enough/same attention or punished / banned enough etc.

jus sayin, I've have always found Raf very charming.

in Russia, figure skaters begin to study at the age of 3. This is a huge advantage over others, and by the way, there is competition for little skaters. In Figure skating is very important coordination and the drug will not help you find it.

Is his explanation related with them fact that almost all women skaters would end their skating life within 3 or 4 years, before they reached the age of 20 or so?

I think I like him a little bit more today. This is classy honesty. Also very important distinction about individual cases and a federation or olympic committee actually being involved like some sort of organized crime. I would include the IOC in this crime organization, who forbids women with certain hormone levels to compete, but allows OAR to compete as if that is a punishment for anyone in Russia and not a source of national giggles and pride they outsmarted the system. And he's so right about the cultural aspect!! Same about covid, isn't it, athletes are fed (much like all Russians) that it's not a big deal, and they must look at the rest of the world and think we're the idiots missing out on the opportunity to get an edge and win. I also keep remembering that Eteri interview where she says she motivates girls by telling them they'll have their own apartment and be a famous mother, like, is this really such an aspiration you have to break your body to get it? Of course boys are not motivated like that, they're probably told by everyone else they can get everything they want anyway. Yes, cultural aspects are so fundamental to all this. But more to the point: Russians (and others, I have no doubt) will keep on cheating and not only not being ashamed, but thinking they're way smater than everyone else.

@loc1976

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov It's been a few **decades** since girls in the US aspired to an independent life as if it's a dream reserved only for boys, or that motherhood is the central piece of a woman's future.

@freedomlife3623

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov not if you have to look yourself in the mirror, and suffer through rest of your life.

@loc1976

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov you're missing the point: in the US girls can expect to be as independent as boys if they wish, or as famous, or become a parent. If these things are a "dream" to girls in Russia that motivates them so much they break their child/teenage bodies to get it, but they're not to boys, it means there's a difference in what girls and boys in Russia can expect from their lives. That was the point.

@a9029k

2 жыл бұрын

@Dovran Rahmedov those are adults, not girls (in the UFC)

@a9029k

2 жыл бұрын

“Who forbids women with certain hormone levels to compete”….no they don’t. The cutoff is actually more than 2 nmol/L over the upper limit of testosterone levels that exist in any woman ever, including those with PCOS and other conditions that make their testosterone abnormally high. No female is banned for any naturally occurring level of testosterone. You’re apparently talking about the Caster Semenya situation who is a biological male.

I saw a movie once and one character stated "They can change all the rules, they can never stop the game, I don't go away. I adapt." Russia has adapted to any and every rule to stop the doping. They are also not the only ones doing it. They just do it better.

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

They’re not doing it better: they are wearing better fur coats with Cheshire Cat grins.

@Boymanjusri

2 жыл бұрын

If they are doing it better, then why they were caught by anti-doing agency?

@evanperilstein5308

2 жыл бұрын

@@Boymanjusri They were caught, but their punishment has been a joke, so I’m sure they’re still doing it and have just been more careful.

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 exactly right.

@mirymir.6287

2 жыл бұрын

Как у вас всё плохо с мозгами.

In Russia (not overall) there are simply super doctors, that's it! Remember one picture: last year, Anna Sherbakowa had a serious illness. In the end of the short she almost died, it was short before a break down on the shoulder of Eteri. Only 1 day later, she fighted with such a strength and endurance, that it was very estonishing from the medical point- like Phoenix from the ashes. Perhaps this doctor can and will help her this year again- a real New-Prometheus! Perhaps A. Trussowa can get also such excellent and efficient help. To have such a doctor is worth gold..... (I beleave this "championship" was unlucky and made many people angry: Who sows wind will reap strom. There is only one pampered ice club: Eteri's. And she does not want Liza. Even if her 3. girl is not in shape- the scores high heaven were given by the "loyal" judges or taken away from others - at all cost. Anna herself is innocent for this-at least I have this belief.

@1chienandalou

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I do not blame Anna about any irregularity. I don’t know about doping, but I felt her scores were definitely assisted in this event but I don’t hold it personally against her.

@freedomlife3623

2 жыл бұрын

There is no super doctor, only willingness to risk your health for rest of your life and being dishonest about your true ability. Can you truly be proud of yourself and thinking you win knowing you are helped by enhancement drugs? It’s all so wrong.

@_Leksey

2 жыл бұрын

Everything is very simple: before the short program, Anna was not sure whether she could skate cleanly and whether she had enough strength, because physically she was not in the best shape after the illness. This uncertainty creates great nervousness from which it is impossible to get rid of, it creates strong emotional pressure, from which it becomes even less strength, it may interfere with sleep before the performance and this is also bad for physical fitness. When Anna was able to perform well in the short program, her confidence returned, her nervousness disappeared, and therefore it was easier to mentally and physically rest and prepare for the free program than before the short program. If you have never felt nervous tension for several days, you probably will not understand, although this is elementary logic.

"There was somebody who was dying!.. she is alive today" Hummmm...

@briseboy

2 жыл бұрын

This has to do with the probable etiology of vasculitis, blood vessel inflammation. Sometimes this is brought on by consistent use of certain drugs, amphetamine types for example. But the statement "she was dying, now she is alive" in context means that kidney problems, and/or perhaps other organs were affected, which leads to corticosteroid and some related treatment to save function, heal, allow survival. Continuing use of a number of these drugs folowing recovery , as implied, does mean use for performance enhancement. Just as tour de france phenom Armstrong did not have early stage racing success before some multiple steroid treatment for his testicular cancer ( etiology of that could involve earlier ped abuse), using precursors DID jeck him up through the vastly increased recovery from catabolic efforts. One does NOT suddenly gain extraordinary rotating jumps in skating directly from ped use, only the ability to train more often for longer periods having less recovery time. Arutyunyan is, as an elite coach, versed in this issue. However commenters and others without any more than vague rumor of drugs and effects, appear to have come to this video to Troll their biases and ignorant hate for others of whom they have NO knowledge whatsoever. It is obvious that physical development offers windows of time for certain kinds of physical development, which are too extensive to discuss in comment, and the typical hate-trollers of internet, using their own misguided illogic instead of knowledge available only through understanding of biological sciences, will continue to create fictions. Sometimes it is FAR wiser for youtube content creators to prevent comment on videos, rather than offer bait for hate, in all its incarnations.

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@@briseboy Social media certainly has obvious flaws, but as you can see here, even many years after the fact, culprits get away with their crime if "nobody talks about it". Then, the ignorant masses take on the culprit's rhetoric of "oh, it's been so many years! let it go!". So nothing changes. Bringing it to the forefront is what will ultimately lead to change: only if the culprits feel that "they won't get away with anything they want any longer". East Germany went through that with their swimmers. The general public was in denial for a long time. Nowadays, nobody in Germany thinks they didn't all use doping on a statewide massive scale. That realization still has not happened in Russia. Even after years of Russia being banned from the Olympics, it's still "enough" to just never talk about "why" openly in Russia. Scary.

So... 1 month ago, ​ @Dovran Rahmedov commented this multiple times: "This Olympics Valieva will be without her flag and anthem. Why? What did she do? Many wanted ban her completely. Dear Americans, explain us why?" And Dovran went on to fight anyone talking about the value of Russia having to face at least some public condemnation for its systemic doping. People would tell him that Kamila wasn't "punished", and that she still got to go to the Olympics and win 2 gold medals. To no avail. You know what, Dovran? You're right. She shouldn't get "punished" for Russian systemic doping by not getting to have her flag & anthem during her medal ceremony. She should get punished for her own doping at the Games. By not having a medal ceremony at all. I was wrong. She won't be winning 2 gold medals. My bad.

Dave shows RIa RU the audio receipts. Who is crazy now!!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

More to come.

@AuroraR

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know what’s going on? I went to the sports ru page but didn’t see anything about doping.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

@@AuroraR yesterday they made tons of headlines about a passing comment.

@AuroraR

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Thank you

@almourie

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson omg i was on there (bc of plushy lol) and saw that they reported on you guys again!

A really fascinating phone call. Very tricky if you don't know or if you only know obliquely, there are wider structures which presumably put a lot of pressure on very young athletes. One angle that Raf mentioned that often isn't stressed enough is that doping isn't just an advantage to the athlete -- it can kill them, too. There is also resource disparity that drives people to dope. It's easy to judge athletes from less wealthy countries who dope, but athletes from wealthy countries who get to train at altitude and with super fancy equipment are gaining an advantage that isn't talent or hard work based, and if you're an athlete with no resources but a lot of talent, you might find that really painful and unfair so you might seek to level the playing field in all the wrong ways. Very murky waters.

@littlebachmonster

2 жыл бұрын

How poor is Russia?

@littlebachmonster

2 жыл бұрын

Eteri wears rags

@littlebachmonster

2 жыл бұрын

Alina Zagitova costume is made from scraps from scraps of fabric the dress maker found in a dusty closet

@pandaz1993himick

2 жыл бұрын

@@littlebachmonster I didn't mention a country, did I? No doubt Russian athletes in certain fields will have significantly fewer resources than equivalent level American athletes, though, one need only look at gymnastics.

@littlebachmonster

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandaz1993himick yes. Dr Nassar, the volunteer doctor because USA Gymnastics too cheap to get a professional, was a great resource to USA Gymnastics and is a clear example of the wealth gap between US and Russia.

Is this recent?

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

"This interview was conducted prior to the 2016 Olympic Games in the wake of the Russian Doping Scandal and the decision of the International Olympic Committee not to allow the Russian federation to fly its flag at the Games. Rafael discusses the differences between the U.S. and Russian figure skating system, what happened when he discussed doping with Michelle Kwan, and why there was an athlete who was dying yet is still alive."

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson 😂😂

Veo mas preocupante que las patinadoras en Rusia son desechables, en danza los.patinadores llegan al menos a los 30 ,ya niñas de 14 compitiendo con adultos ,ese sistema es aun más inhumano ¡,cómo.la.medalla de oro y plata de los olímpicos 2018 con 19 y 20.años ya retiradas,.Liza es la exepción, el tema.de las drogas pues deben cuestionar a los equipos y directivos y no a las niñas,feo todo ésto

@user-zc4hs6et7d

2 жыл бұрын

Lipinski Hughes ?

After the state supported drug scandal in Sochi all the Russian results should have be voided, the medals redistributed and Russia should have been banned completely for the next olympic cycle including both the summer and winter olympics

oh wow, I've been writing up a long comment on the other video you posted, asking you to consider tackling this big nasty subject, and after finally posting it, I see that you already did! Amazing. Well, I guess this here is an even more appropriate place for me to share the comment: On another note: I'd love to know if Russian skaters get randomly tested for doping if they're on a long "injury break" a couple of months before the Olympics. (Just kidding, of course they don't.) It's always a delicate subject matter because nobody should get accused of faking an injury, but we went from "Trusova is out of the Olympics, for sure" to "omg, all the quads, always!" after not seeing or hearing about her for a month. If an athlete willing to use doping got told for sure that they won't get tested for a month, they can really work with that for a substantial boost. In Russia, we deal with a doping program that was organized and carried out by the state on a massive scale, "East Germany Style", culminating in the 2014 Sochi Olympics. They were caught, and years later, they still don't acknowledge the facts and just talk about "the rest of the world being jealous and lying", despite proof of how the swap of athlete's blood and urine samples for "clean ones" was orchestrated on a large scale, down to having built a trap door to another room in the Sochi lab. The German 2014 documentary "The Doping Secret: How Russia Makes its Winners", which jumpstarted the ban of Russia from the Olympics, was I believe never broadcast on Russian TV. Watching that would be a vital first step for Russian figure skating fans who may actually believe it when their leaders tell them "nothing to see here", to realize what is happening in their country, and to help make change happen. "Three ladies artistic skaters were named as being under investigation. They are Adelina Sotnikova, the singles gold medalist, as well as pairs skaters Tatiana Volosozhar and Ksenia Stolbova. Volosozhar and Stolbova won gold and silver medals, respectively, in pairs skating. Both also won gold medals in the team event, which also puts the other eight team medalists at risk of losing their golds." Their urine samples went to that lab with the trap door. Maybe have a look and decide if you'd want to use your platform to share it, or parts of it? Same with the 2016 McLaren report. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics#Doping_scandal_after_Olympics en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_Report

@mirymir.6287

2 жыл бұрын

Да выпейте вы уже ту мочу , а то будете её смаковать всю жизнь. Проверьте мочу своих спортсменов. Моча уже через месяц меняет свойства , не то что через десять лет. Это ж столько идиотов в мире .

@junglesuperstar9270

2 жыл бұрын

Anna was the most tested athlete last year. And if you personally never saw or heard about Trusova for a month, it is your problem. Russian media/fan groups were quite full of information on her

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@@junglesuperstar9270 "full of information" certainly must include doping tests then. A mere formality. Please, do show.

@Frenchie100

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirymir.6287 Please use a translating tool. My point is: by mere common sense, it's obvious that the Russian athletes got told way ahead of Sochi that they could use doping without repercussions. So they did, and the proof was flushed down a sink instead of being tested. Volosozhar and Sotnikova never competed again, Stolbova "tried". They refused to let her go to the 2018 Olympics because "we all know what you did (but Russian WAD flushed it away)". Of course any athlete that uses doping and does NOT have the assurance from the ORGANIZING NATION that they won't get tested, will stop early enough so it won't get traced in their blood / urine. They know what they're doing. Duh.

@junglesuperstar9270

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frenchie100 I am furious when people lie . Why are you doing that . Volosozhar was competing at WORLDS. Sotnikova was competing too. Unsuccessfully .

That athlete probably just meant they didn't want to live

"i've heard that you knew that the russians were doing different things in sochi, is that true?" "you know, i mean, we can create so many rumors" lololol raf's russian obfuscation is downright charming compared to what we hear these days

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

100%

Raf said absolutely nothing new. Yes, russian athletes are less independent then western. Why would you publish this old interview now? Tarasova will curse you again and this will make you feel important?

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Is this interview from today?

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

It is from 2016

@jeffaldridge4051

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, I see now. You did a beautiful, respectful job of interviewing a great coach who really didn’t want to, and did not say anything at all.

@MariaJoseKhan

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffaldridge4051 I think he said a lot, though, in a very modest way.

@1chienandalou

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffaldridge4051 He said so much! Maybe you need to listen between the lines. He couldn’t have said more of course. But he said by what he didn’t say but implied. I heard it anyway loud and clear.

@jeffaldridge4051

2 жыл бұрын

“Between the lines, implied”. I rest my case….

@theskatinglesson I don't know how you can tolerate the clowns in the comment section.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

It gives me comfort that they only help to boost me in the algorithm.

And then two Russian athletes failed doping tests in Korea 2018. Send them a sternly-worded letter.

@junglesuperstar9270

2 жыл бұрын

Figure skaters ?

@BillyWhaler

2 жыл бұрын

@@junglesuperstar9270 not FS. the two-man toboggan (which makes sense) and a curler which does not make sense unless the curler had a sore back from lifting up the grandkids.

i was sure first that the interview is about ana alexandra and kamila. then i found out it's from 2016. nice try dave

@alexac3098

2 жыл бұрын

The point is, their practices haven't changed. It continues to be about all their athletes.

@vladG30

2 жыл бұрын

It's impossible to get all those results with drugs. There are stronger skaters out there, that fail at technical stuff and very lightweight skaters who just work really hard every day and get better results. And there is regular doping tests going on. If anyone is using something, it then is not one of illegal substances. The Meldoniy people were taking before 2016 was a common over the counter drug that supports heart muscle function and tens of millions of people were using it for cardiovascular issues all across the Soviet block since 50 years ago. The only reason it was made illegal is because they couldn't find any actual illegal medications in their tests. Meldoniy is super harmless and beneficial especially now in Covid time when hundreds of athletes started having heart issues from little blood clots. Meldoniy can help against that. Banning it was a crime. It should almost be made mandatory as most people with SARS-COV-2 Spike protein develop blood clots in their system and run a high risk, whether that Spike Protein be from infection or the vaccine. This year more than 110 FIFA players collapsed from heart issues during play or exercise. Of them almost half died. Healthy athletes with strong hearts, but the blood clotting killed them or maimed them. I believe every athlete during this pandemic has to take some precautionary heart medicine.

@briseboy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - this is a valid comment. The specific differences in Russian training from other nations include strong early and continuing flexibility work, the world's finest, most expresive and precise ballet training, which includes torso and limbs, as well as long-established precise head and eye use, both for technical mastery of fast and complex movement, as well as artistic expression. Because of familiarity with these adjunct, but absolutely vital cross-training methods, i could either hardly watch or could not even watch some of the best outlying skaters of other nations. The failure of discipline causing most of those skaters is the cause of the discrepancies to a FAR GREATER EXTENT than are peds, performance enhancing drugs.

@briseboy

2 жыл бұрын

My "thank you was addressed to Vadik Golovin

@elizabethburrell4756

2 жыл бұрын

@@briseboy Then why do so many of them have wrong edges with this "superior" training?

Well, we didn't need to see a date on this interview to know that it's old. These TSL clowns wouldn't dare interview Raf now when they've been spending so much time attacking his champion over the past quad.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I spoke to him a few months ago.

@1chienandalou

2 жыл бұрын

You think somebody who has spent their life in world/Olympic level sport would be butthurt about what TSL thinks about his athlete!? Lol TSL are entitled to their opinion and/or to make entertaining content and I highly doubt he spends time thinking about stuff like that when he has more important things on his mind like the sport and Olympics and stuff.

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson...nice to know the two of you are shameless enough to trash someone year after year and still approach them. I'm sure you were a lot nicer to him and his skater in person than on your videos, none of the disgusted facial expressions and nasty, unnecessary remarks. If Raf didn't think so little of your inconsequential opinions and if he wasn't so much classier than you, I'm sure his only response to you would be the middle finger :)

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

@@1chienandalou...lol, I never said that Raf actually cares. I'm merely talking about how shameless these "jounalists" are. Anything for the clicks. No need to be defending these clowns, fanyu.

Pretty misleading to publish an interview from 2016 without specifying the date. Clickbait of the worst kind. Many people are not going to fish in the comments for a statement from you on when the interview is from, and would assume that this is about a recent scandal. Way to dump on Raf too.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Check The description. The date is published.

@kseniacoffman2

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson ​ But not on the photo and not mentioned in the interview itself. It's not much of an effort to add a 5-sec intro: "The interview was recorded in 2016". Not everyone will look at the description. After the "cough syrup" comments in the RusNats video, ppl will assume that Raf is commenting on some new scandal. That's why it's clickbait.

@hoang-yennguyen5637

2 жыл бұрын

@@kseniacoffman2 seems like ur a little lazy to me

@cosmos9688

2 жыл бұрын

@@kseniacoffman2 "ppl will assume Raf is commenting on some new scandal." Video title: _Rafael Arutyunyan Interview: _*_2016_*_ Russian Doping Scandal_ Okay.

@truvada9340

2 жыл бұрын

Ksenia you are trying to justify that you didn’t read the description. Be a big woman and accept that you were wrong.

What is the purpose of posting this interview today??? BTW, Mr. Arutyunyan should work on his English, because his poor English misrepresents what he was actually trying to say. One needs to speak Russian to understand that.

@MariaJoseKhan

2 жыл бұрын

In all honesty, and in my very humble opinion, this interview supersedes language barriers. I think the message was quite clear and at the same time very much held back.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Have you read sports ru today?

@zb6070

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson what happened?

@SunflowerCat333

2 жыл бұрын

I am a native English speaker. I had no problem understanding Artunyan’s English in this interview. The message is clear.

@arianagrymski2692

2 жыл бұрын

What happened?! 😮