Is 250 mW ELRS enough for you, or do you need more? The Zorro's ELRS radio has maximum 250 mW output power. Jumper has announced they are going to release a version of the T-Pro with 1 watt ERLS inside! My opinion is 250 mW is more than enough for most people, but obviously more is better especially if you're using EP2 receviers with ceramic antennas.

@RCRitterFPV

2 жыл бұрын

does the ceramic antenna impact range significantly ?

@SquatchWerks

2 жыл бұрын

Plenty for me, I’m not a fly miles out kind of guy though. I’m either flying around my house or in a couple acre park. Biggest thing for me is overall feeling/responsiveness. That would be the deciding factor for me to switch over to ELRS from Crossfire…

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@RCRitterFPV Ceramic antenna has roughly half the range of the UFL antenna. I say "roughly" because it depends heavily on how it's mounted in the frame.

@originafreerangechicken

2 жыл бұрын

I went with T-Pro 1w when it popped up at RDQ the other day. I hated removing and installing two modules on my TX16S so now I can just leave crossfire installed all the time and have The TPro as dedicated ELRS radio . I hope I don't end up regretting the T-Pro too badly because the Zorro looks really nice. Time will tell. Thanks for all the great content on these RCs.

@FrenzyIncarnate

2 жыл бұрын

@@originafreerangechicken IMO even the battery life of T-Pro is enough to pick it beside the more powerful ELRS module

The infographics you added recently are a nice touch - I think that will be helpful for people newer to the hobby who might otherwise not know the jargon. Nice work with those!

@momp87

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice addition for sure 👌

@leonie9248

2 жыл бұрын

I’d prefer more handwritten notes in the little notebook :)

@pgabrieli

2 жыл бұрын

I actually found them distracting, because I couldn't read them and listen to JB at the same time. but maybe that's just because I'm not an english navite speaker

@cyberoverkill5844

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@janvogt454

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I felt the videos already were on a high level with detailed but not overburdened explanations and the very useful description linking to a vast library of content. But those infographics add another layer of information I didn't know I missed.

I just wanna say thank you for all the knowledge you shared in all your videos. I learned a lot from you.

When I ordered this radio, I've been waiting more for your review than for when it comes

So many reviews but yours was always going to be a must watch, thanks again JB

What a great review! Answered all the questions I had about options, thanks Joshua!

I have little interest in buying either of these controllers, but I just enjoy watching you review products. It's nice to see you bring up little problems and I feel there is plenty of sincerity and honesty in each review. Keep it up , keep evolving...err but not too much ;o)

i get my hands into drone every other year. its not by accident that i come back to Bardwell's channel. dude is honest, no agenda, and does a helluva good job. i just got the DJI FPV drone. now that i have some goggles, i am looking into building a drone using the DJI O3 system, but need a radio. i like both of these, leaning towards the T-PRo thanks Josh

Today is a Zorro day. I saw most of others fpv channels review. You JB has come probably in the end, but your review is so different so you can count as first! For me the best! Cheers!

Fantastic review, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃 This little radio is really tempting! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

this video is perfectly timed i was just looking for a bore budget friendly controller and then this comes out thanks soo much!

Thanks man for these profound information and the analytic comparison.

OMG The review I have been waiting for!!!

Hi JB! Great videos, thanks!

Once again I learnt something today, thatnks again Joshua. I have the radiomaster t16s and love it, took a bit of time to learn after having a spektrum m but once I got used to it I absolutely love it. The only thing I’m not that fond of is how big it is, takes a bit of getting used to as far as finger and hand placement ,so a smaller game controller type would be great. Definitely thinking about that smaller radiomaster as I like the size and the bigger screen, most likely with the crossfire, although that express lrs unit looks very tempting.

well, you just sold me on the zorro with the ELRS kit, I've flashed and rooted many things, I will use you link , thank you, I've watched both and this is the radio for me! thanks again

20:30 SOoooo true!!! I got in the hobby with R-XSR receivers and OMG what a learning curve it was, finding compatible RX and TX firmwares to be able to establish connection! Converting to ExpressLRS, yes, you have many options to choose from in the configurator but it works even with the defaults and you only need to set your "binding frase" and you are good to go!

@airheadbit1984

2 жыл бұрын

You didn't mention the $20 adapters you had to purchase to talk to the receivers!

Yeeees my review! Wow I’m so waiting to watch this

Thanks for the great review, very informative for a beginner like myself.

I’ve been waiting for this one from radio master

nice in depth review mr Bardy

Looks like this radio manages to hit all the points I need. Thanks for the review.

Idk if I could fpv without u man... I appreciate tf outta it.. im addicted and let's just say there are much worse addictions so, thanks

Looks like I'll be selling a T16+Crossfire module sometime this year, my Zorro order is in :) Had to order it from Banggood because it was sold out in the UK, not in any particular hurry so no worries. Went for the 4in1 + Crossfire version, I may buy an ELRS module in the future.

From a guy who glazed over at the ELRS videos,... When I actually did the flashing and set up, it was pretty easy and once you do it once, setting up future devices is easier than anything!!

Your sucha resource and i appreciate you

I learned expressLRS today by combining watching your videos and captian drone vids, but mostly yours, i flashed and fly my first drone today. Thanks for ur continuing tutorial. I might contribute to your patreon soon as well to help support you in your endeavours.😊😊 Drone: Cinelog 35 v2, O3 system Controller: Jumper T pro v2 ELRS Goggles: DJI goggles 2

Much appreciated. Been waiting for this to decide on my next radio. What’s your impression of the build quality for long term use? Could this thing handle multiple years or am I done the first time it slides off my hood and onto pavement?

Great video appt of good advice, I am getting a buddy of mines into FPV and I recommended ELRS but didn't know what radio to recommend and you make my decisions a little easier... I have him my old X Lite but I want to recommend something newer up to date... Thank you...

Cool, thank you!

I always smash the like button. 💯👊

Just the video I've been looking for.

Bind and flys are a big consideration too. A JP4in1 internal with ELRS external, or visa-versa will provide a wider range of options for a beginner.

@grim-upnorth

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with this. There are a greater number of different external ELRS modules currently available, and there will be more to come. Locking yourself in to an internal ELRS module doesn't make sense, especially considering you can't put a different antenna on it. An external module gives you much more freedom and configurability. Yes, I understand that 250mw is all you might need, but what if you "want" something more powerful in the future? You'll end up buying an external ELRS module anyway. So if giving yourself the widest range of options is important to you, then yes the 4-in-1 version is the most sensible option. That way you can put anything you want on the back of the radio. If however you already have a bunch of aircraft, with a specific flavour of control receiver installed, then pick whatever version has the internal module that works with those receivers. If none of the internal module options works with your current gear (in my case Crossfire) then the best solution is to buy the cheapest CC2500 version, and get a crossfire (or whatever control link you have, tracer/ghost etc) module for the back.

@calif94577

2 жыл бұрын

This!

@jacquesmaries2324

2 жыл бұрын

100% agreed! Not only there are many B&F whoops that don't need the crazy range, but also there more to RC than drones only and a dual system will allow to use the same radio for fixed wings as well.

@hazonku

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly why I just said screw it & went all in on a TX16S Max. More options makes it easier to fly multiple protocols and ELRS combo packs aren't crazy spendy.

Thank you Joshuaaaaaaaaaaaa! Really helpful.

I'm gonna buy the Zorro, it's the best for what I need I just hope the ergonomics fit me well as a thumb flyer. Now that cnc gimbals are available for it theres no other tx that compares. just wish it was more expensive, i could deal with a higher price for better build quality

Thanks!

Can't wait till this thing gets released!

I think I'll probably use the zorro for my drone use and keep the TX16s for my planes, gliders, fixed wings, ect 😎🤙

I absolutely love my Zorro, such a great radio. The only issue I ever had was the random "telemetry lost" "telemetry recovered" during flight (even while fully retaining control link still), but after updating EdgeTX that issue was completely gone. The battery life has not been an issue for me, even once I run through all my packs it still has plenty of battery life left. I found turning off the screen backlight and setting the transmission power to dynamic 250mW improves it quite a lot.

Glad you made this. I just wish it was available locally in the states.

I wonder if the new AG01 version of the 16sMax has EdgeTx by default as well? It would be a great selling feature if the touch screen works out of the box with no fiddling around for newbies.

thanks joshua

It would be interesting to see how these two compare to the TBS Tango 2.

@ranudar5666

2 жыл бұрын

The TBS Tango 2 has the nice 2 position shoulder switches. I will absolutely not switch radios.

I'm still using my Frsky Taranis X9 Plus ACCST and XM Plus RX's. Not flashing in long time. P.S. The Express LRS in the Zorro is not the 1 watt version. I think it's the 250mw. You should get the Zorro 4 in 1 and add a Express LRS 1 watt module. This gives you option down the road.

The t-pro has all the momentary buttons accross the top . After radiomaster attached it to the tv set on top sticking out they had to stick those buttons all over the back and in different places and left out the leds to save battery for a second weak flight . Thats a good save .

The Zorro with 4-in-1 module has me seriously reconsidering if I need a full-size radio like an x9d+ for TX16S. I fly DIY foamboard fixed wings, RTF/BNF parkfliers, tiny whoops, 2" quad, 5" quad.... it would save a lot of room in the backpack!!!

@Flamenawer

2 жыл бұрын

No, Zorro doesn't, it is almost so thick and tall than a qx7. Jumper t-pro is the one save space and weight

If this gets CNC gimbals then this is hands down the best game pad style radios, tempted to get one to go with my tx16s

I think I'll take the wait & see approach, Maybe that iFlight one might be dope. I've already got a TX16s Max as my daily driver so I'm not in any rush, but I would like to have a smaller but more importantly, just as flexible smaller controller around for days where I leave the iFlight FPV Drone Backpack at home but still wanna be able to at least guerilla whoop while out & about.

I started with frsky and it is a pain. I got all of their Rx bound without having to flash once, but then you never know if you get more failsafes as you could get when they were on the same version. I never bothered tryna flashing a frsky Rx .Flashing elrs over WiFi is pretty easy, though

As I already have a bunch of frsky receivers, do you agree that the 4in1 + an external elrs module is the best option to switch to elrs? Or is internal elrs and an external 4in1 module the better choice?

Thanks, Josh. I ordered my Zorro about a month ago. It's my first one. I'm really excited to get my hands on it and was really looking forward to hear what you had to say about it. It's only a few days away now! I can't wait.

I got it just today with expres elrs it looks like a good radio !!

Great, well structured and informative video. What would have been useful would be to explain which modes of use this radio is certified for FCC or CE use. I think think at the time of writing this is a small subset of the functionality you have covered. For example. ELRS is illegal above 10mW in the EU.

@Flamenawer

2 жыл бұрын

This

P.S I like the info graphics, very cool 😎

Muchas GRACIAS!!

Really good, in depth review 👍 although I'm not in the market for a new radio, there is always something to learn from a Bardwell video. PS when will the winners of the goggle giveaway be announced?

Hey Josh, when can we expect a review of the iflight commando 8? I like that it's got a 4 in 1 and ELRS internal receiver built in but if the Zorro is a better controller I'll happily get that instead.

Joshua, in your opinion, which hall sensors are better? T Pro or Zorro?

While people praise the informative overlays, I have to admit I really enjoy the handwritten notes on your little notebook. It could be a nice touch to present the now overlaid information in a hand written form. :) Would suit your authentic style!

Awesome t-shirt !!!

good sir Bradwell,i have question for you,couple of months ago i got my self a bugs 6 biginner fpv drone but the controller stoped working,i'm new at fpv,so i was wondering if i could bind the zorro to my bugs 6,i think its possible but befor ordering it i want your opinion on it,and i could use the zorro on my pc for simulator,i love your vids because you are strait forward and easy to understand,thank you verry much!!!

What is the gimbal size? 3m or 5m? I would like to use the aftermarket stick ends

Can you post a log to show the gimbal jitter and how it compares to other major/common radios? This product is notable as an ELRS radio and the main performance bottle neck on this link is gimbal jitter.

Joshua, should I wait for a Zorro release with metal gimbals or are the metal gimbals anyway just sold separately, as a DIY upgrade?

Can you program one of the momentary buttons to activate the sliders? That would help prevent accidently moving them.

The pro version of hall gimbals means that you have to replace with better by yourself or there will be an official pro version ?

Hey love the canal and all the infogain i get from it. am complity ny to FPV and is looking into getting started and the RadioMaster Zorro 4-in-1 is in a starter pack. Can it handle som fing lika a FT Mighty Mini Arrow Wing WR (737mm) or do i need to go for the TX16S for it to have the needed functions? Thx you

Hey there Joshua, so I have been trying to get confirmation... If I got the elrs internal version, would it support an xjt or external multiprotocol module? I see examples of it running r9 and crossfire but not an external mpm. Thanks!

Definitely going radiomaster because my t lite died immediately... So I am still on a Taranis x9d!

@stevietee10

2 жыл бұрын

'Taranis x9d!' an excellent workhorse, nothing wrong with them, I've just ordered a ZORRO as a backup to my X9D 😄

Just starting fpv have the djifpv. But want to fly fpv 4 or 5 inch. I need an RC. ANY ADVICE. I don’t want garbage but dont have alot of money. Fixed income. Lolol. Thanks josh. In advance. Ur the best pilot I’ve ever seen. Thanks man.

I guess I’ll have to see how it feels in my hands compared to my Tango 2, may not make much sense to switch otherwise. I’m fine with using a module for ELRS.

@momp87

2 жыл бұрын

Same! I have big hands, and i feel the Tango 2 is a little small. Very curious on the Zorro radio

I ordered the 4in1 for my whoops spektrum. I already have a happy model elrs module

Great video 🙃

Just ordered one through your affiliate link. They supposed to be shipping out later this month. I'm upgrading from a qx7. Will I be able to transfer my models from the qx7 to the torro? I'd really like to avoid binding all my quads again if I don't have to.

ELRS does give me fomo but I love my crossfire. It is one thing that I never have to worry about.

thanks

Nice!!

Does this radio fit the lite modules? Thought it fit the nano modules? Thanks JB!

Got a Jumper T16 Pro (with the integrated 4-in-1). Love it. It has developed the ribbon cable plague. I was able to repair everything but the right finger slider, whose connector broke internally. I don't use the finger sliders though. Been considering a small gamepad style radio for throwing in the bag alongside a little sub250g quad. Debating between whether I want to get the Zorro in 4-in-1 built in, and upgrade with modules (Crossfire or ELRS), or get the Zorro in ELRS, then buy a 4-in-1 module (TBS MPM?). Or go all in on ELRS going forwards with the Zorro and just use the Jumper for 4-in-1 needs. Not entirely sure yet. The 4-in-1 would be least expensive now, as I don't have to buy either receivers or a module, and give me options for upgrading. ELRS would be more convenient if/when I eventually migrate to full ELRS, no module required. I do have a bunch of old little cheap toy drones and a Walkera that were a big factor in me choosing the Jumper and its 4-in-1 originally, so maintaining 4-in-1 support, whether by module or integrated, is still desired. Even if I'm preparing to replace the Walkera because it still runs freaking Cleanflight and I've smashed it into the ground more times than I can count anymore.

Naming conventions madness, the Crossfire "Lite" module is actually the one that goes intro the JR module bay (the box-style hole), whereas the Crossfire "Nano" is the one that goes into the "Lite" module bay (sliding into the pins)

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that's insane.

Do they have those all metal gimbals for jumper t12 pro?

just bought a Jumper T-Pro ELRS version. it came with a 2 position switch on the bottom right instead of 2 sliders. cant find any information on it. looks and feels good.

I’m debating on wether I want to get the Zorro Elrs or the Tx Elrs. I like the arc beacis it’s cheaper but it doesn’t come with battery’s (I don’t know if the Zorro does ether)but I really like the game pad style of the Zorro because I like playing video games and stuff so it might be a more comfortable feel for me. I don’t know I’m still debating but these are the two ones I have my eye on

+1 for the pink info corner on the left side

Radiomaster TX16S is a sweet!

@ivogrinbergs3736

2 жыл бұрын

Too large

Didn't you cover, in detail, the technical issues with the jumper that caused everyone to switch to radiomaster?

Love the honest review… please don’t sell out like some people recently have… (you know who)

My favorite Radio is the TBS Tango 2

i wish i had been told to avoid FrSky earlier i need Elrs in my life.....top work 👍

Why do they have to separate the usb c ports? Is the any advantage of having 2 separate instead of one with charging and data?

Will the tbs 4in1 module fit the zorro? I’m sure that’s a dumb question when you can just buy the 4in1 zorro but just curious.

Where did you get that moongoat shirt?! I've been wanting one for the past year!

The 4-in-1 seems like the best choice to me. But I'm going in knowing, I'm going to be buying a module for ELRS. Having that 4 in 1 can just be so versatile with whoops. Just saying you might want to try RedPine. And 250 is probably more than most people need. But it's nice to know that if you outgrow the 250. the extra power is there. I think a $150 to $160 ish a great price to have the best of everything

@truggles120

2 жыл бұрын

He already has tried redpine

Couple quesions: If the LiPo2s battery balancer plug will fit, why did they give you the adapter? Can I just use my 2S balanced lead? Then, if I followed a JB video on updating the firmware and my audio is now gone ("Welcome to OpenTX" on power on), how do I get it back? I know the audio files are on the SD Card, but not sure how to get it back to how RM shipped the Zorro.

there is internal ELRS in Jumper T-PRO can u do review about it ..

I have the opposit problem with the gripping with my tango 2. My hands are to big so i cant use the full gimbals on the outside due to the range of motion of my thumbs. This radio might help with this issue.

Nice to hear that Radiomaster is putting out ELRS receivers, hope they are better than the Jhemcu junk I wasted money on. Is Radiomaster going to be making a micro size ELRS external module? In order for ELRS to move forward there is going to have to be quality hardware availiable, it's not cheaper is the stuff dosn.t work!

I have XL hands and same issue thumbing the TBS Tango 2 as what Joshua shows here around 5 minutes in. Bummer it's the same situation w/ this tx as I've been anxious to dump the Tango but still have a small backup tx to the TX16S.

How is it for pinchers? I am looking for something small but I also am used to pinching? Do you think that this transmitter is comfortable for that style of flying?

Which one has better gimbals out of the two, without upgrading the zorro ones?