Thank you for making us aware of excellent options at good prices

Impressive overclocking results. More perf uplift than what we're used to nowadays

@stangamer1151

9 ай бұрын

True. But Nitro+ MSRP is $550 and the real current price is closer to $600. No wonder it performs so well, it should be fast to justify this price.

@lukasschmidt9555

8 ай бұрын

@@stangamer1151 Shame on all round ups, the Nitro+ actually runs hotter than Hellhound that is close to MSRP. Not only is cooler, the 7800 XT Hellhound is one of the most silent cards of all brands.

@Dell-ol6hb

6 ай бұрын

@@lukasschmidt9555 I think that’s because the Nitro+ runs it’s fans very slowly even under max load in order to keep it quiet, I’d figure it’d perform much better if you ramped up the fans a little more. Still the Hellhound is a beast of a card and the best value of the 7800xt AIB models imo

Great review. I'm considering this card. Build quality and performance are excellent, the only thing that's made me think twice is ray reconstruction, there are some rumors that its a feature AMD will have at some point. Might hold off to see what FSR 3 brings.

@adi6293

9 ай бұрын

I wouldn't worry about it too much since its not all sunshine and rainbows with that feature and let's face it RT performance on these cards isn't the best, I had a 3080, had to use DLSS and was still playing at 60fps 😂😂

Got myslef a PowerColor Hellhound 7800XT, it's amazing, I've seen the reviews against other models and always came out the best... definitely love it.

@sinamon_stick_8079

7 ай бұрын

Ok. I received that same card today. Going to test it out with my epgu when I get home.

@pacifer1234

7 ай бұрын

Bought a hellhound as well, but i will return it because it has a VERY loud coil whine. Will buy a Nitro model instead. Only 39€ difference in price.

I have both the EVGA FTW3 and Tuf 3080.... and both are good. Great Hot Spot and VRAM temps with both. The FTW3 seems to consume a bit more power, but it is a little bit more manageable. The TIM pumps out a lot though. I've had to replace the TIM of both cards twice. Kryonaut and MX-6 don't seem to handle well. Right now I'm trying Gelid, but I might try Kryonaut Extreme if I have to repaste the card soon.

@TechRIP

9 ай бұрын

Did you see the HUB vid on that extreme watercooled 4090 he received? It comes with liquid metal. When testing, he also tried thermal paste and I believe it was a kryonaut pad. The paste wasn't even close to the liquid metal in temps, but the pad was almost right up there with the liquid metal.

@hanmaruf2919

9 ай бұрын

gelid good?

I have that Sapphire 7800 xt nitro in my latest build (2weeks ago) and its fantastic...... Allways had AMD cards and my now second PC still has a 6700 xt Nitro

i have a sapphire nitro+ 6950 xt and i love it, but its hitting 110c at at 2400mhz when playing games on ultra settings, and i have no tuning adjustments on the card. Will this card do the same, will hit 110c when playing games in ultra settings?

I got a Pulse RX 7800 XT because the 3 fan cards don't fit my case. Unfortunately the drivers refused to install on 23.9.1 saying it wasn't a valid GPU. Driver 23.9.2 installed right away. I was getting hard crashes with Cyberpunk 2077, but I haven't tried it again with the 23.9.3 drivers yet.

@baranaygul3071

9 ай бұрын

ı have nitro version it came pre instyalled 9.2 i had the same problems then i uninstalled and download it again. Adrenalin dont work rightnow but dont get any crashes in anygames so far. You can check your rams too. Amd expo rams getting problematic time to time

Have you banged your head? Lol seriously great review. I got the Red Devil Myself

I bought the XTX. I could’ve bought a 7800xt a couple days after launch but I wanted to play Berserk at ultra high settings.

If I can make an suggestion, to us that are colorblind your graphs are very hard to differentiate between cards. Would appreciate you choosing different colors that are easier for us to see.

The main take for me is that you can still get some free performance from your pc components and that it’s great to see AMD getting some of their software issues for older titles sorted and 5ha5 consumers have more choice!

Unexpected and fair

I have this exact card. It was an upgrade from an older 2070Ti that was definately a silicon lottery winner. Now with the Nitro 7800 it is showing alot of promise. Runs most of what I play at Ultra settings and sitting around 100 fps without overclock. I think this is also helped by running it with an AMD CPU as well.

@user-jt9jn6pv8l

7 ай бұрын

Bro hi ı have same card too but ı cant sync argb you can ? ı connect the cable download TriXX ı try everything but my asus motherboard cant see the card

Thank i order this card. Great value !

I Tried Unreal on my RX 6800 which is a dx7 game, it worked perfectly, so i would say that a modern AMD GPU can run DX7 games at a minimum.

woah...almost pulled a Linus hahah...btw with the new tech on the RX 7800XT....will it be worth it upgrading my RX 6800 to that? my CPU is the 5800X3D

Can you do a tutorial on how you over clocked that videocard ?

Slavezero is runing on Glide. Just finished the game no crashes on i5 12600kf and Radeon RX 7800xt nitro plus Windows 10 22H2. Cool GOG mecka game.

Finally makes sense? I've used exclusively Radeon since the HD 4870 and I've been happy as a clam!

please need a guide how you OCed 7800xt! did you undervolt?

@donaldslayer

9 ай бұрын

Use adrenalin tuning and enable all the advanced sliders. Set min clock to 2800 and raise/lower for stability, set max clock to 5000, set power limit +15, drop voltage (my card only stable down to 1050 but a lot of people say they’re getting down to 950) in steps until you get unstable. Once it breaks go back to the last stable voltage + 25-50 for stability and raise vram in steps (2600 is around the max, my card is hitting about 2500, seems to crash at 2550) once you get your stable vram clock bring that +25-50mv back down to your stable undervolt

That intro was epic! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 If the 4070 had a true 60 class price of 349 to 399 it would be good, but at 600 bucks it's just a bad joke. I don't get how anybody would buy that.

@stangamer1151

9 ай бұрын

Many 4070s cost $550 now. Plus, Nvidia offers DLSS, better RT performance and lower power draw. So it depends. 7800 XT is definitely a better choice for 4K, as it offers more VRAM, higher memory bandwidth and better raster performance. But for 1440p 4070 is a good option as well, since at this res RT is a viable option for this card, especially in conjunction with DLSS. But I'd say 3080 12GB is the best overall value choice these days, if you are OK with used items.

@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390

9 ай бұрын

7800 XT is also too expensive, IMO. Both should be 399. The 7800 XT has at least more VRAM and a bigger bus. 3080/6800 XT used are the real kings here

@legacy5097

9 ай бұрын

@@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 here in NZ the 4070 costs around 200NZD (120USD) more than the 7800xt Nitro - it was a no brainer for me

@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390

9 ай бұрын

@@legacy5097 how much did you pay? Which model did you get?

@PineyJustice

9 ай бұрын

@@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 Sorry to burst your bubble but silicon has gotten that much more expensive. When the 1080ti came out a wafer was around 5k now a wafer is 17k and upcoming 3nm rumor says 20-25k. Unless TSMC gets cheaper card prices are never going back down.

@ 11:43 Who was selling a Sapphire Nitro 7800 xt for $560?

When you say it never pushed beyond 70C, do you mean avg temp, not hotspots? My hotspot goes up to 90, is my card bad?

@kotztotz3530

9 ай бұрын

90C is fine for hotspot, IMO. Usually I see a difference of 20C.

@parilaishram7572

9 ай бұрын

Mine never even got close to 75

@Yourbeautyformyashes

9 ай бұрын

@@parilaishram7572 nah, your hotspot def has to be past 75, unless you’re playing non GPU demanding games. Wait for 100% Gpu utilization and check Adrenalin for hotspot temp. I returned mine.

TY

Personally I think even since the rtx 3000 series amd gpus have made more sense. Nvidia does better with ray tracing true, but the prices from them are way too high. To be honest I recently picked up a used Xbox series x for about 380 give or take with shipping. I honestly find I’m playing more games on that than my pc. More budget friendly for sure. But I’ve still got my gaming pc with a ryzen 5500 and a 5600xt for any older games I still own on pc.

The only sad part some countries in EU just get fucked up by pricing. In my country the 7800xt is around 850e while 7700xt is 650e. Thats 200e difference. We dont have 50usd wich is like 45e diff in price

do 3000 series support dlss 3? last i herd was only 4000 series suport new dlss 3

@SKHYJINX

9 ай бұрын

NVIDIA keeps messing with new versions . RTX 2/3 Support DLSS 3.5 but without Framegen. That's the 4000 series specific feature. Framegen should be renamed from DLSS 3 to just Framegen so NVIDIA can say all cards are DLSS 3.5 compatible and 4000 series carries FG.

@Raivo_K

9 ай бұрын

Yeah its confusing. 3000 series does support upscaling part of DLSS 3 and DLSS 3.5 ray resconstruction features. 4000 is needed if you want frame generation as 3000 series does not support frame generation feature.

@rinkumultani6515

9 ай бұрын

dam ngridia always something that mess things up for gamers @@SKHYJINX

I didn't know Nvidia is better at older games. I may install modded Oblivion on the older 3060 ti setup and see if it runs better than on the 7900 xtx.

@PineyJustice

9 ай бұрын

No, radeon cards are usually better for older games since they're often cpu limited and radeon drivers have a lot less cpu overhead.

Almost can't see 4070 line, weird choice of colour in th graph

what about blender viewport performance..

I would never pick a second hand 3080 over a 7800XT, i already had the 3080..... it run out of vram 😡😡

I always really apricate your harsh more realistic reviews, almost shocking to see you recommend a AMD GPU 😅

Radion has made sense for years.

I think the 7800 beats out the 3080 in my case because it only has 10gb vram.

This is pretty interesting. I don't know which route to go. I was considering waiting for 50 series but, with covid spiking back up. I have a feeling that things could get bad again. So I want to build something that could last but still does majority of the stuff I want. We'll see. I gotta do more research.

@leeboy2k1

9 ай бұрын

"Covid spiking"? Have you been glued to nothing but Pharma sponsored cough! news for the last year? the plann3demic was a massive cash grab to distract from fortune 500 bail-out's that caught up from 2008's bail-out's c'mon dude don't be that much of an NPC Wojak.

I got a phantom gaming 7800xt recently. It’s really sick but I’m not getting the greatest stability, granted I’ve been tuning it. So far 1050mv(lower=crash)2500/fast timings faster = crash, I can raise max clock all the way, and power limit +15, but if I touch the minimum clock slider I crash. An exaggeration, but even 1200 lowers my stability. However I seem to be maintaining clocks > 2600 and temps < 52c with

@SneharthoDey

9 ай бұрын

Same here, I got the exact Nitro+ model from Saphhire. Can't go below 1100mv, even lowering to 2400 mhz crashes it. The best I could get is 1100v at 2600 mhz without using power draw since I want to run below 250 watts. Temp is 59-60 degrees

@donaldslayer

9 ай бұрын

@@SneharthoDey techpowerup got mad lucky lol, I noticed while looking at adrenalin metrics while playing that it reports being at 950 max when I set it to 1050, so I’m wondering if that’s why setting it to 950-1025 crashes. I might have to look at frequencies and see if I just step up from the 500 min voltage and find somewhere stable that has some uplift.

@PineyJustice

9 ай бұрын

If you want to give it more clocks, you will have to raise voltage. Voltage gives you stability at a certain clock so 1050mv is stable at 2500mhz, move voltage back up to stock, set your clocks to say 2800mhz and power slider to +15 and work voltage back down again with the higher clocks.

@PineyJustice

9 ай бұрын

@@donaldslayer Also as per this comment, your voltage isn't a set thing, it's using a tune map like an engine does for fuel, since clocks are dynamic, the voltage it uses to hit those clocks are dynamic too.

@donaldslayer

9 ай бұрын

@@PineyJusticeI’ve been messing with it ever since the original comment, mine can handle 2600@950 only problem is there is an unstable point in that curve when the gpu stops boosting (going into a cutscene or something) it will crash. So I go for like 2600@970 normally, I wish the voltage curve was more editable, I’d love to reach 950 at 2500 while not going above that to reach 2600-2700

Games run like butter on this one.

You didn't 'almost do a Linus' because you did not shame your site after a terrible Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed outcall with a huge backlash. You got more cred.

Does anyone know a good price for a 3080? Here in Ohio I don't think people on marketplace are trying to sell the cheap.

Radeon hasn't stopped making sense for the last 20+ years lmao. Tired of people who invent issues lol.

Rx 6000series was better at their price points than nvidea 3000series, but lets keep going

Can you change your graph colours? A nightmare for anyone colourblind. More blues bro 👍

If you want a good real world game to test why don't you try one of the stalker anomaly mods or even the vanilla version of anomaly these AAA bugman games are a shrinking niche.

Sounds like you fell in love with Radeon again here lol

Mmm the nitros are always drool worthy lol. 😮

@doomsday5286

9 ай бұрын

don't buy sapphire, they suck, i bought a lemon nitro+, i rma it, waste of time.

@lagginswag

9 ай бұрын

@doomsday5286 Things like that happen. Sapphire is the best aib for amd followed by powercolor. *Shrugs*

new 580 is the 6700xt

RX 7800XT out of stock.

Does the newer AMD graphics card have video encoder like NVENC?

@26Guenter

9 ай бұрын

NVENC is Nvidia proprietary. All RDNA 3 cards have AV1 which Nvidia doesn't currently support.

@gbxd

9 ай бұрын

@@26Guenter Which is better in your opinion?

@26Guenter

9 ай бұрын

@@gbxd It depends on what you're doing. AV1 is more so forward thinking as it's supposed to be used more into the future, right now it's better at live streaming. Supposedly NVENC has been faster for video creation. I don't know how RDNA 3 does with overall encoding but they have improved performance.

@PineyJustice

9 ай бұрын

@@gbxd Nvidia 40 series have AV1, and AV1 is vastly superior to h264 nvenc or h265 anyways. AV1 is the future, nvenc was a stopgap in h264 being terrible and h265 was already just as good.

used 6900xt does indeed = a 7800 xt, im kinda mad but i got mine a year ago for 600 when it was right after the crypto crash

Under 300 regularly? 3080? No

The thing is i'm using a 2070 Super what has a TDP of 225W the 4070 has an impressive TDP of 200W while 7800XT does consume a lot more (263W). Especially using multiple monitors. 4090 uses 450W TDP, I have to upgrade PSU up to a nuclear power plant besides the price point. I think it's redundant that pushing beter performance needs higher power and thus way more heat. Being from a guy that's not buying an GPU every 2-3 years+ i do think that holds up in time, the 7800XT is a little too much overrated.

@AnabolicSaagAloo

9 ай бұрын

I’m in the same boat as you. The 4070 is an upgrade that makes the most sense if you take the cost out of the equation. My Asus Turbo EVO 2070 Super has a TDP of 215w I think so I don’t need to change anything else. I think I’ll also get away with swapping my 5600x with a 5800x3D

@PineyJustice

9 ай бұрын

You know the 7600 with 180w is faster than a 2080 right? And 60w is basically nothing, high idle power has been pretty much fixed entirely and there has been a workaround for 9 months already, just create a custom resolution 1hz lower than your monitor and the problem goes away for almost everyone, it takes 5 minutes to do .

This Nitro+ card is so overpriced in my country that it's almost reaching 4070Ti territory. I have always picked Nitro+ brand for my Radeon builds because of its build quality, but I just can't justify that this time.

@santeenl

7 ай бұрын

Oh damn, it's 590eu here and the cheapest one was 550eu.

Hey Chris, there is another elephant in the room. HiGH Power Consumption of AMD GPUs @ video playback ! Last Gen's RX 6800 (and up) AMD GPUs & the new chiplet RX 7000 series have serious power issues @ video playback (youtube, Netflix, video players etc.) 40+ W is stupidly HiGH / meaningless... and while the previous 6700 XT consumes only 16W, the new 7700 XT doubles that power draw with a whooping 33W on "video playback" The RX 7800 XT is thirsty too; 42W power consumption while we watch your videos ! AMD should have solved that "power issue @ video playback" on the current Gen but it's gotten worse... Can u make a video about it too ? 🤔

@m8x425

9 ай бұрын

What really pisses me off about my card is the stickers on the fans aren't 100% centered. Why buy a card if they can't get the stickers right.

@CrashPilot1000

9 ай бұрын

So it behaves like my GTX 980 then.

RX 6800XT perf 650$ 3 years later RX 7800XT 500$ same perf I'm shocked it is amazing I will buy 10 just because it is 20% discount !!!

No it doesn't ,we are in the era of raytracing . And even the rtx 4060 has some decent rt performance. The problem with amd gpus is that they only have raster performance for them . The upscaler is a joke below 1080p and even when using 1080p , dlss will still make a noticeable difference. So let's take a good example. Rx7600 cost 270$ Rtx 4060 cost 300$ For 30$ more + you get roughly the same raster performance. + you get 2× rt performance × dlss. With dlss you can even use 540p to upscale at 1080p and have decent results. While fsr can't handle 720p ... let's not even mention 540p . In that case going with rtx 4060 is the only value choice. Here : Rx 7800xt 500$ Rtx 4070 550$ In that case the raster perf is a mix bag. Like the rx7800xt can vary between + 30% to -30%. And once again, significantly better rt perf with rtx 4070. And dlss. And since they are both 1440p gpus . Fair to say that the rtx 4070 will last longer. Maybe 2 years if you are mad enough to go as low as 540p to 1080p, ( which is a viable option that amd gpus can't offer ..fsr sucks too much) You want to make the rdna 3 line up utterly destroyed nvidia? Price them accordingly. Like the rx 7600 would beat the rtx 4060 advantages if it was at 200$ instead of only be 30$ cheaper.. Rx 7800xt is only 50$ cheaper than rtx 4070. And quite honestly dlss + rt is worth 50$ extra. But if the rx 7800xt cost 450$ . There would be a legitimate ground to talk. Because there would be 100$ difference. Here is how is see the value Rx7900xtx (800$) Rx7900xt (600$) Rx7800xt (450$) Rx7700xt (350$) Rx7600 (200$) Otherwise dlss is too much of a value saver over time . The fact any rtx gpu can go as low as 540p and still have a decent 1080p output is wild . This generation nvidia has once again beaten amd

@newyorktechworld6492

9 ай бұрын

RX 7800 XT out of stock.

@jeofthevirtuoussand

9 ай бұрын

​@@newyorktechworld6492 because a lot of people don't care about raytracing when it can make a massive visual difference . Nvidia a well rounded compared to amd gpu which only have raster performance for them

@yeagmatic

9 ай бұрын

​@@jeofthevirtuoussand"massive visual difference" lol if you did an A/B test you wouldnt be able to tell in most games. plus youre upscaling to 1080p from 540p from the sounds of it anyway, who cares if the corner of a room looks slightly darker in cyberpunk

I can run cb2077 Maxed settings + RR+ path tracing at 1440p, with solid 75+ fps on my RTX 4070 with a little help from DLSSQ+FG. One question ,can a 3090 ti even do that? Yet you're comparing it to a 3080, I couldn't disagree with you more.

@jakefalcons

9 ай бұрын

That's literally only 1 game. The 4070 is not good value for the money. That's the objective truth. If your 4070 does better in your favorite game then it makes sense for your specific use case and it was a good buy for you. Most people would do better with a 3080 or 7800 though.

Since console gam is built around AMD Apu

Such a reminder of how good of a card the 3080 was at its msrp

@toivopro

9 ай бұрын

No vram and good?

@davidg2731

9 ай бұрын

Too bad it was never available for msrp!

@theb4r138

9 ай бұрын

Yeah it was a struggle to get one at msrp definitely took a lot of effort

First

Used market? Like you are ready to lose 400$ if the gpu is a damaged crypto card?? Are you out of your mind..

@pf100andahalf

9 ай бұрын

You have 30 day buyer protection on ebay, especially if you buy with paypal. You can tell if the card has been well maintained or not in that amount of time. In the small chance that there's a problem you'll get your money back. I bought a used 3080 last october from ebay that was well taken care of from a highly rated seller and it served me well and then I traded it plus some money for a 4090 a few weeks ago. A used 3080 is a safe bet, mined on or not. Mining only hurts the card if it's full of dust, just like a gaming-only card.

nothing makes sense anymore. radeon is bad at raytracing, nvidia is greedy, 7800xt is +- 5% a 6800xt which is pathetic. used cards are the only reasonable (somewhat) option right now

@mylittlepwny3447

9 ай бұрын

Consoles make sense.

@NBWDOUGHBOY

9 ай бұрын

You're not wrong.

@Vfl666

9 ай бұрын

back to 30 fps? hell no!

@NBWDOUGHBOY

9 ай бұрын

@@Vfl666 most games on console are 60 fps now.

@Vfl666

9 ай бұрын

@@NBWDOUGHBOY But not all Starfield for example 60 fps sould be the minimum framerate period.

2080ti still goat

@leeboy2k1

9 ай бұрын

SLOAT today I'm afraid, was a great buy in 2018, I regretted turning down one in early 2019, and overspect on other underwhelming cards.. But as of today, the 2080ti is falling behind in the fps department at 1440p and up.

@johnhughes9766

9 ай бұрын

@@leeboy2k1 stil doing 90 fps with dlss quality in new games

@DJ-fw7mi

9 ай бұрын

Gtx 1080ti in 2017 for 569.99 that's a goat still killing it today.

@johnhughes9766

9 ай бұрын

@@DJ-fw7mi 569 buys you a 3080 in the uk

Everyone keeps freely thowing out there that the 7800 XT is sooo popular. Im not seeing the evidence of that. Micro Center has a number of 7700, 7900 XT/XTX, but doesn't even have the 7800 listed anywhere on their website. Last time i saw them do that was when there was literally no expectation of restock or ability to tell customers when to expect more stock. Places like Best Buy, B and H, and Newegg are sold out, but I've seen no evidence that a restock has happened since launch. I dont remember seeing lines all over the place for this gpu either. Seems to me that there was very little stock that mostly has sold through. Because its the first time this season that "sold out" has appeared on a product launch, people are people are assuming that its flying off shelves. Is there any legitimate evidence to show that stock was high and restocks are happening, but folks are jumping over themselves to buy the 7800 XT? Looks to me like youtubers just might have the majority of AMD's launch stock! 🤔 🧐

@davidg2731

9 ай бұрын

It's like MicroCenter doesn't want people to know the 7800 exists so just buy a 4060 ti or 4070!

@SFAJmz05

9 ай бұрын

@davidg2731 Might as well be what's going on, lol? Seriously, where is the stock on these things?

@SFAJmz05

9 ай бұрын

@baronvonslambert That sounds about accurate, and it is possibly the reason that there has been no real evidence of market share changing at all. I'll check again now at those stores. The last time I looked this weekend, it was the same story.

let me tell you a 7800 x3d plus and a 6900 xt makes for a good time indeed, starfield in new atlantis minimum frame rate is about 50

@ZombieFartDev

8 ай бұрын

at 2k ultra, no upscaling or vrs, shadows on high, ultra just eats frames for a very minor visual improvement to edges of shadows

paying 300 $ + $ for a used gpu that you don't know how stressed it was and past its warranty no thank you