The wayfinding of the R211s is chef's kiss! Not only are open gangways great for accommodating more passengers, improving crowd flow, and promoting accessibility by making it easier for passengers with disabilities or mobility challenges to move freely within the train (on top of the wheelchair flip seats), but in NYC's case, it prevents subway surfing by eliminating the ability to ride between cars! Open gangway trains provide a continuous line of sight throughout the entire train, which can deter criminal activity and improve passenger safety. It also allows for better monitoring and faster response to incidents or emergencies. Open gangways on the NYC Subway are a huge achievement and were much needed!

@portcybertryx222

4 ай бұрын

I hope for the R262s the MTA goes for an all open gangway fleet and if there is a chance does the same on the states island railway

You're right about soft shells , they can be dangerous in case of a sharp turn somebody can be crushed. I don't know well Nyc subway but if I remember there are some . Somebody was injuried on a tramway here in geneva with those shells . But those trains look wonderful , Mta did a great job buying these

@SuprToe

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I think you’re right about their limited turn ability, but I don’t see it as a danger. Seems to me the potential vandalism hazards of soft shells are not worth the extra shoulder space.

@GamingWeekends1

4 ай бұрын

@@SuprToeto be fair, the soft shells look like the articulated bus articulations

@railfannerjs6308

4 ай бұрын

@@NYCSubwayFan New Flyer Xcelsior X211 that is And you get better propulsion imo, but nobody is supposed to hang out in the bellows anyways, it’s an absolute necessity if the trains are packed. Poles are there for support, not because it’s a location for commuters.

@NYCSubwayFan

4 ай бұрын

@@railfannerjs6308 and it’s not dangerous only if it curves it is dangerous and on the open gangways on both the Hard and soft shills so ones again stop criticizing it

@NYCSubwayFan

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@SuprToeHi GoGosuprtoe I know you’re not interested in the soft shell but it’s not so bad besides I do prefer the soft shell design and many people like it because there’s more room more grab pull’s for people to stand there and it’s more aesthetic pleasing because the hard shell has less space and are not intended for people to stand there but to only use them to walk between the cars and I am sure bad guys won’t do anything to the soft shell it least I hope not but while I do prefer the soft shell I think both design are good and if we do order more R211T Open gangway trains in the future I would also be happy with either design Although I do feel like it should be the soft shell design

Awesome video Suprtoe! The new R211T trains are amazing really like the screens and it gives you all the information you need lol

Omg my childhood I miss you for like four years and now you’re still my childhood

I’m glad that the MTA is *finally* introducing open-gangway models. However, it kinda upsets me that it can’t run express via Central Park & Fulton Street considering they get extremely crowded & the fact that many delays/reroutes occur along the A/C causing them to run express. But overall, I like them

@philsam1232

4 ай бұрын

Any ideas why open cars can't run express we have open cars in London and they run 60mph express.

@djijspeakerguy4628

4 ай бұрын

@@philsam1232I think it’s the way the safety brakes work on the NYC subway, and the position of the express tracks in the center between the other tracks. It would be impossible to check the brakes if they activated. Either that or they’re just testing them on local tracks first before they get confident enough to move them to express, or a combination of both issues.

@unexplainable-complexity

4 ай бұрын

@@djijspeakerguy4628I believe it's purely the latter issue; just a cautious rollout. Assuming nothing goes catastrophically wrong, we should be seeing R211Ts on the express tracks eventually.

@patsycanete7072

Ай бұрын

R211Ts will never be express. I wrote about this train in my school newspaper. Hypothetically, if an R211T’s emergency brakes were to be activated on an express track, it wouldn’t be possible to cross to the other side. On some exp tracks, it is unsafe for R211Ts there. If a train WITHOUT open gangways like an R179, malfunctioned on a exp track, the procedure would be to climb through the space between cars or the last resort is to crawl under the train. Sadly, with the open gangways, there just isn’t a way an R211T will run express. Also MTA president Richard Davey made a decision to “give our C train customers a little love.”

@unexplainable-complexity

Ай бұрын

@@patsycanete7072Well, Richard Davey also said that they just wanted to start by testing the R211Ts on the local tracks for now, and he also said that they do plan to get them running on express tracks in the future. I've heard other rumours that they might be creating new procedures to allow track-level inspections to be carried out safely on R211Ts. After all, if it's not possible to safely conduct inspections with the current procedures, then those procedures need to be changed. There are apparatuses in every train car allowing for a crew member to descend to track level, and it appears on both sides too. But there's no way that they would willingly go through with buying new train cars, only for them to be local only; that wouldn't make sense and they know it. I don't care whether express R211Ts are 3 years away, the point is I'm confident it will happen.

YOU FINALLY CAUGHT IT

That was a great video! These R211Ts with the open gangways are amazing, and I'm glad they're now in service. I hope I get one the next time I ride the C train.

Bro kept saying hard and soft shell I couldn’t tell if he was talking about tacos or trains😂

@CLBT7437

2 ай бұрын

Considering the content of the video, it really shouldn't be complicated at all.

@ianrotheroe2540

2 ай бұрын

@@CLBT7437 considering your lack of a sense of humor, I’m surprised you’re even on this channel page

@CLBT7437

2 ай бұрын

@ianrotheroe2540 I have a pretty high sense of humor, thank you very much.

Im so happy you got to catch them those trains are amazing

GGS, I had the same thought as you when I first saw the soft connectors. I could easily imagine someone spilling a coffee on them leaving a forever stain. Or a fool with a marker defacing them. I say go hard. Cheers from Wisconsin!

Im so happy you didn't quit!

Nice catch i enjoy the videos man

I'll be looking forward to seeing this when I'm in New York this summer. I've been on light rail trains in many cities that have the fabric accordion "soft" dividers, and I'd definitely agree that the hard ones are superior.

i been watching suprtoe for like almost 7 years and its been fun (if you remember nyctrain//a train boi thats me.)

Great job hunting this absolute monster down!

Lucky you, the R211T showed up right away and you didn't have to wait all day for one to show up. The hard shell design looks safer to me than the soft shell. I am hoping to catch one of these soon. I have still yet to ride any of the R211 sets.

R211T’s are amazing! I’ll have to hunt them down again when I get the chance.

Finally he did an r211T video I have been waiting for 15 days I still think MTA should use the soft version since it’s wider and plus the soft shells are very safe if mta protects it

Very Lucky Catch!🎉

Nice job. I hope for future versions like the upcoming R262 they figure out how to improve the design to run on the express lines .

@leecornwell5632

2 ай бұрын

The R262s will definitely have the hard shell. The R262As end ways I'm telling you.

Didn’t notice the difference between soft/hard shells! It would be nice to have those in boston, the best we get is the connection between the halfs of Green Line trolleys and walking between CR coaches

As a former R211 foamer, i prefer the r211t soft shell, but at one point someone might hallucinate while walking through the gangways like your walking through the whole entire train. But yeah i like softshell more then hard shell

the hard shell r211 is asome it allows people to go to different carts without crowding!

I actually caught an R211T C train yesterday afternoon but it took off once I got to Hoyt Street going the opposite direction. I saw so many R211s yesterday and I missed my chance to ride it yesterday darn 😢

Hey super Toe I was on an R46 W train just for you , and an R160 E train on Wednesday.

Cool nice job 👍

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤nice video suprtoe and do you remember that old suprtoe vs new suprtoe

I didn't expect the interior part of the gangway to be a wall, but I guess it's better so no one decides to try wrecking it

Right, we have the soft shell gangway connectors on basically all rolling stock here in the UK, for example on the S-Stock on the London Underground, they have the soft shell, people are basically used to it, but on something like the DLR, if I remember properly they have the hard shell, which personally I prefer because its not like your gonna get finger stuck, so I understand why you seemed to feel a bit off about those shells. Nice video anyway lad!

@TheTrainiac377

4 ай бұрын

Also I just wanted to say I've been watching your videos since I was around 5-7 years old, which was about 8-10 years ago, I found your channel after like a good year or two so I'm glad to have you on my recommended again.

Man Suprtoe you lucky to see the r211T

The soft shell rubber & jiggly ribbed things look a bit creepy when they jiggle and wiggle.

I remember my first time taking a 211, it was so amazing because I remember it being around a week or so after they got put into service. The only thing I have to say is that although there are a lot of things that are different / have shown advances compared to the r179's, it didn't really feel that different riding it to me. A lot of people have said it is a lot smoother but I couldn't really tell. Maybe it was the fact that I only took it 2 stops down or was too excited about the fact that I was on it to notice. But other than that besides me riding it for the first time, my parent recently started training to operate them.

@meowcammi

4 ай бұрын

I think it's worth adding that I haven't seen the R211T's yet, as I haven't really needed to take the A or C lines anymore since I moved schools. I hope once I get to see it IRL that I will notice the differences better. 😭😭

@CoinyTPOT

4 ай бұрын

@@meowcammiSpring break is here, you might have time.

The exit info on the FIND displays is a plus for The TA.

@TonyP9279

4 ай бұрын

The only potential issue I see is, there will be those blocking the door while trying to figure out where to go, especially at platforms that have multiple connections from it like Canal St (N) platform.

I think i prefer the hard shell because it gives a place to lean, but we'll have to see what they go with in the end

The same thing happened to me at Euclid age I wasn’t even expecting it to come and it showed up so I got on I was actually waiting for the A R211 since it less of a wait cause in more in service..I didn’t even know until I watched this that the hard shell and soft shell is a 5 and 5 split of one train I thought it was separate trains glad you were able to catch it super p.s. if anyone can tell me what that thing is connected to the end of the seats I banged my elbow on it when I was on it

I like the soft shell and how roomy it was but i agree with ya on this. the harder shell would be better in this case.

Hong Kong MTR has hard shell over gangway that’s almost as wide as the trains cars. They’re also super quiet

Finally came on video

Nice job super toe caught ing the train

@Teamsse372

2 ай бұрын

You mean caught

Next video you should do is a rolling stock bingo where you ride, each one of the different types.

You didn’t have to wait very long to catch it! Luck was definitely on your side that day. Too bad that there are only two open gangway trains at the moment but hopefully more will arrive and that they become the standard subway cars. Was there no way that every single car can be open gangway? Seems strange that you have to get off the train just to switch from hard shell to soft shell and vice versa. Was there a reason for that design choice?

I'm surprised they didn't choose the "rubber shroud" setup used on Toronto's Rocket-Series trains - I stand in the middle of those articulations all the time no prob.

@SuprToe

3 ай бұрын

Standing in the articulation point on either of these is mostly fine. I haven’t been to Toronto, yet, but I’m mostly concerned about the longevity of either of these shells in the NYCT system.

Gogosupertoe 🎉

@NycJ2

4 ай бұрын

Do u guys know if the R211T run on the Weekends?

I rode both R211 A and C trains 6 days before you!

Imagine telling a guy in the 80s about this train

Idea:go to the transit museum

Those screens are definitely a huge upgrade, the only problem is safety and cleanliness. If one person gets sick, will they have to remove the entire train out of service?

@SuprToe

4 ай бұрын

I think they do that anyway on a train if one person gets sick? IDK. I would say I felt safer on the open gangways. We all know, on regular rolling stock, as soon as that door between cars opens some dumb s*** is about to happen.

@newyorkcity.biking

4 ай бұрын

@@SuprToe On regular trains, they evacuate the car where the sick passenger was so they remove the train car out of service. But you’re right about the last part lol

I hope Suprtoe Goes Back To WTN And TSN This Year

Super toe You were riding 4043 soft shell set

LETS GOOO HE SAW MY REPLY TO FIND THE R211T

Nice choo choo train.

They have a second set 😊

My second idea for a route, is Bway Junc. Pls accept either route, start at 7 Av to Broadway Junction. B from 7 Av to Bryant Park W to 34 St Herald Square (above ground transfer to 8th Avenue-34 Street) A to Times Square (another above ground transfer to Grand Central for the 4 train) 4 to Brooklyn Bridge City Hall J to Canal Street Q to 14 Street-Union Square N to Times Square C to Broadway Junction Pls accept one of them❤

“That new train smell”

Just passed another one right behind supertoe so there’s 2 R211T’s

When can you do a TSN or WTN?

Why the R211’s Display for the destinations on the outside was flashing a lot

the R211S are out

Gotta say, if they put these on the J, specifically the soft shells, you can’t put them anywhere NEAR Crescent St. you all know why

@user-rh8ic7fp3b

4 ай бұрын

It can ❤

Hey super toe on 2 fast that you record at chambers there was r142 1

Me And My Spamton Plush Is Going to Hunt For The R211T Tomorrow!

Day 8 of asking you to go to all versions of the botanical gardens (if you want to then Staten Island is ok)

I have an idea for a route, you can spell, FEB 2024. Please I’ve been a big fan since 2016. Start at BLAF! To 138 St Grand Concourse. F BLAF to W4 E to 7 Av B to Atlantic Av Barclays 2 to Times Square Q to 72 St (aboveground transfer) 2 to 149 St Grand Concourse 4 to 138 St Grand Concourse. Pls accept my request.❤

There is a R179 that has the R211 headlights lights in the front that made me feel like I got an R211T but no. I got fool by car 3166. Hate that R179 C car

@kingnate2010

4 ай бұрын

Fr I saw it

Hard shell all the way. Hopefully NYCT agrees.

If supertoe is your favorite KZreadr 👇🏾

Can you go to Washington DC and ride the blue and red lines somday

And One More Thing Go Go Suprtoe I Will Be Back On The Trains 🚆 Soon

Suprtoe 3 E M W 6 Start at Barclay center and take the 3 to 42nd street Then take the e to queens plaza then take the M to 42nd street again then W to 59 street and 6 to Grand central Where to now Atlantic avenue Barclays center to grand central

I FOUND A R160 Q TRAIN TO CONEY ISLAND but sadly it got taken out of service😢

@user-rh8ic7fp3b

4 ай бұрын

Same

Suprtoe i went to NYC today i rode the C train but i did not ride the R211T only R179

@NycJ2

3 ай бұрын

It only works on weekday i think up to 7:30pm

I don’t know about you but Supertoe seemed to drop the “I HATE R46” thing. He might even get on the R46 retirement train when it runs of course

Still haven’t caught the second set

Needs goosuprhighpitchtoe

When you’re gonna upload again

I’m a big fan of the R211 I agree That R46s are bad to ride

I wonder if they can make the whole train flexible

@tomwujek4867

4 ай бұрын

They can, except it would involve a lot of work with the shops/lifts prior doing so. Toronto has 6 car trains (75 ft cars) that are connected and the total length of their trains is 450 ft. Hong Kong uses longer cars that are connected as well. So figuring a 10 car train in NYC with cars being 60 ft each would create a train length of 600 ft, it should be doable.

Are you doing another video

By The Way, (S) From Grand Central To Times Square (1) (For A "P" To 14th St (A) To 42nd St (M) To 5th Ave (7) To Times Square (Q) To 14th St (N) To Atlantic Ave (For Spelling The Word "Spamton") (Made A Mistake Last Time)

What if you did a video about riding every single train model

@SuprToe

4 ай бұрын

It’s been suggested and it’s on the list. A follower on Twitter came up with a way to gamify it and now I’m interested. We shall see.

@CoinyTPOT

3 ай бұрын

@@SuprToewould you separate different variants like R160A and R160B or just consider it an R160

All trains in Hong Kong is hard shells

0:33 r211 A train

We should give respect to him, subways crimes are so high, he is risking his life for people to watch his videos

Cool Video (7)(R)(A)(1)(N)(F)(A)(N) = Trainfan (7) Start at 34 Street Hudson Yards - Times Square (R) From Times Square - Cortlandt St/WTC/Chambers (A) From Chambers - 34 Street Penn Station (1) From 34 Street Penn Station - Times Square (N) From Times Square - 34 Street Herald Sq (F) From 34 Street Herald Sq - West 4th Street (A) West 4th Street - Port Authority (N) From Times Square - 57 Street 7 Avenue.

20 Years later than Munich, well done!

@SuprToe

3 ай бұрын

lol right? that the MTA is even experimenting with these is a miracle.

I like the softshell better

Hi

AND HARD TO KILL BEDBUGS AND ROACHES

Too many bells and whistles.

sorry but I have to be honest, the ASMR ruined the video in my opinion 😭

They copied amtrak

you sound so sad suprtoe, whats wrong

@CoinyTPOT

4 ай бұрын

He might be sick but he was sick in December so I highly doubt it

@CoinyTPOT

4 ай бұрын

Actually nevermind, he said at the beginning he was trying something 'different'.

R211T C Train 🚆 Go Go Suprtoe