nice analyzer and information my friend

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Hopefully the weather improves so I can get some runs in.

I use those cases for carrying spare rotors

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Good idea. Especially with a bit of foam in there. The zipper case is nice.

Curious how this motor compares to the Surpass Rocket RC V6? I think youve tested both and ran both. What are your thoughts between those 2 motors?

@telecomandorc

10 күн бұрын

I would take the Rocket. Great price and keeps pace. The rotor is strong in the Rocket.

Really good video nice see the comparison of the 2 motors 13.5-21-T. They both certainly have there purpose place. I’m curious to see the run times Gs from 13.5 motor TY another great video!!! Will u be testing no censored motors in the future.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. 😅 Hopefully it dries up a bit so I can get some runs on the asphalt. Rain has been keeping me in check.

do u have this 21.5 spreadsheet available to share?

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunatly, not at this time.

I decided to put a Fantom Helix in my 25.5 but I replaced my 13.5 and 17.5 motors with R1. Judging by these numbers it doesnt look like they are testing better than the Helix or the slot machine. Do you have any predictions on how theyll perform in a vehicle versus any of the other motors? Perhaps I shouldve gone with the slot machine and helix....lol the spec class motor wars! Btw I meant to mention that i asked the R1 via facebook about the aligned sensor option motors. I asked whether the timing was meant to be adjusted. Their description of the aligned sensors is that “any timing changes will change the sensor alignment.” The response was “I personally leave my timing at 40 degrees and gear accordingly. I never really go above 45 degrees. If you find yourself wanting to turn it up more than that, you should change gearing.”

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

I think the Helix will perform better than the Slot Machine just because of the slightly higher gauss and how it manages more Kv at the same time. The R1 is intriguing to me. It is a low reving motor. It revs low like a high torque motor, but consumes little amps like a low torque motor. My gauss analyzer will be in soon according to tracking. So I will have some gauss numbers hopefully this week. Timing at 45 degrees sounds like a very good idea. It is more torque than timing above it but good Kv compared to timing below it. The closer to 60 degrees the less torque. The amps may be low but the taller gearing to make up for rev probably loads the motor enough to bump up the amp draw. Not sure how much. Maybe I can test it this summer and play with timing and gearing.

@TheNewnan3

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc So with the R1 does it sound like gearing down for more torque in the infield would be faster or gearing up bc the torque is already there? I guess thats something ill have to experiment with...

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewnan3 Try it out, but I am not sure the torque is there. It could be. But I have not tested the armature, or the motor in a car. But the rotor is weaker, and the motor itself has less Kv. There are some other parts I need to build something to test them further. But it will be a while.

@tagrc9452

Жыл бұрын

I have both the R1 V21-S and Fantom Helix rs $150 versions. I also have a motor analyzer I’ve tested them on with the V21-S having significantly lower kVs (2900 vs 3400); however, it competes just fine against the Fantom Helix. The R1 is set to 40 deg in the can, and the Fantom is set to 50 deg on the can, both the way they came packaged. You just have to gear them accordingly based on the track layout. Each motor has a different power band and sweet spot for gearing. I get the best performance from the V21-S with a bigger pinion, and I get the best performance with the Helix rs with a smaller pinion. In addition, I do find that the R1 tends to stay up to 20 degrees cooler, especially on hot days. So without any load on the motor, I would say the motor analyzer is only good for giving you a rough idea on how to gear the car. I would not hesitate to use either motor in my buggies; I love them both. At the end of the race, it still boils down to your driving skills vs what electronics you run in my opinion.

Helloooooo! Have you been able to get an in car test with the R1? In my neck of woods on the east coast US...R1is king along with the xfactor(sadly discontinued now). I have a rotor Ron surpass v4r 21.5 and an off the shelf tekin G4r 21.5. The tekin was 2 tenths quicker than the surpass but still no where near as fast as R1. Nobody here uses Hobbywing but me(im very competitive in vta with it) so i think i wanna take a chance and get the hw g4 v10 21.5 for our carpet track..(coastal rc in Virginia). What do you think?? And thanks! Your vids have helped me get on pace after being out of 21.5 tc for 3 years!!

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

The R1 is popular amongst some of those using timing here. I my opinion, for blinki, it is too low Kv and runs high in amps for similar timing compared to other motors. The rotor is not as strong as some of the competition. But since it hits the 5A target in the mid 40s, it responds well to boost (just mind temps). It will all depend on gearing. To be honest, I think the G4 is a better motor. But going with the R1 might be a better choice there since you can get tips on timing and gearing from some of the others. But I like the HW 21.5T G4 😅 more.

@LegendsPizzaCo

22 күн бұрын

​@telecomandorc awesome info. I run blinky as was considering this motor. I will look elsewhere now that I have this information. In blinky mode do you like the HW G4R over the Fantom Helix? I've always wanted a Fantom Helix but have been hearing great things about the new G4R HW. As you know I have the Team Powers Actinium V5 now but I'm looking for something more powerful. Everyone at my local shop swears by and loves Team Powers. But the tests show over and over Team Powers isn't the most powerful. Curious what you recommend for blinky. Thank you so much

Hi mate, looks like that R1 21.5 motor has something wrong with the sensor board, that spread is really bad. My R1 21.5 will do 2800kv on 5amps on 50 degrees.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

You might be right. It does seem too low as is. Thanks for the data to compare. I will have to contact R1.

@Dru180sx

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc the V21-s 21.5t with the long rotor (125726-1) is very impressive, once you upgrade to the titanium screws and ceramic bearings, expect 3200kv at 5a.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@Dru180sx I will have to check if it is allowed here. But I like the idea. USGT is open motor here, but I am not sure if rotor swaps are allowed of if it is a spec 21.5T class.

@cluc2000

8 ай бұрын

The V21-S motors have a lot of torque. You have to gear it differently

@Dru180sx

7 ай бұрын

My FDR is 3.64, timing at 49 degrees, at a medium sized technical track, low grip, night racing, motor temp at around 55-60 degrees celsius, with a 30mm motor fan. Guys in the Amains constantly asking me, "what bloody motor im running ?", crazy punch in the mid-field, and unbeatable on the straights.