Worked with a guy that this same thing happened to. After years of hard work and saving the company $100,000s of dollars they let him go to save money. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.

@GeorgeMinton-jb8ky

3 жыл бұрын

nobody ever said management was smart. They are just management.

@InfernosReaper

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of all the thousands of dollars in sales each day my store lost because they couldn't be bothered to pay couple of hundred bucks to actually staff those high dollar departments. For a while, there was on guy who wasn't even a sales associate trying to cover that *and* do his *actual* job, but alas, that poor dude didn't have the training to take orders and didn't know the codes for the equipment prepare certain merchandise for the customers. Other than the lack of authorization and training to work the computers, he was pretty knowledgeable on a lot of the stuff sold in the departments, courteous, and helpful to the customers. I never got why they didn't actually train that dude for sales instead of leaving him in the freight department. I guess management didn't like the dude or something, because they fired him for not showing up to work, even though he was supposed to be on a medical leave of absence. I ended up leaving around that same time, but kept in touch with the dude for a while.

@apexone5502

3 жыл бұрын

The stories in this thread are great examples of why I keep the code: "never be loyal to the company that's employing you unless you own the company." Being loyal to the rare companies that really look out for their employees is the only exception and even then, only if said loyalty isn't going to hinder you from other opportunities. Outside of that, you gotta look out for yourself when dealing with employer's because those same employers look out for the company way before they look out for the employees.

@paulsz6194

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, some companies won’t spend $100 to save $1000 down the track.. Management simply has more dollars than cents....

@hypnotoad28

3 жыл бұрын

A good example of why you need to leverage your position as quickly as possible. Where you work will determine how difficult it would be (it will be difficult), but you'd need to make clear exactly what you're doing and how it is benefiting the company to the higher-ups, above your manager/boss if necessary. Don't take empty promises. I'm no pro so don't take this too seriously lol.

Teachers who abuse their authority to bully students deserve to get fired.

@frgmented-dreams6140

Ай бұрын

It's like they forget that they have a government job. I'm just a clerical worker with no real interaction with constituents or clients and I am not allowed to behave like this.

This is why it doesn't pay to be loyal to companies anymore. I do the bare minimum to stay under the radar. I don't get promotions and the so called raises are a joke. But I see those go getters who go above and beyond. They volunteer for everything. They come in early and leave late. After a couple of years, they complain about pitiful raises, and no promotions. My point is that being a dedicated go getter for a company isn't worth it.

@WhiteWolfos

3 жыл бұрын

It can be under the right company and the right people. Doing bare minimum will only promote you to stay longer under bare minimum jobs which is fine for many people.

@michaelh7527

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhiteWolfos The best places to work are small to medium size business's that are preferably family owned. Those are the ones where the owner will say hey, I noticed you went above and beyond for this project. I have even had owners give me a 50.00 bill for a thank you. The big corporations are only about numbers, metrics, and insanely stupid corporate policies. Many of them have no heart or soul. The company I work for was a good and solid family owned company that based decisions on common sense. You could freely talk to upper management in a respectful way about why a decision would be good or bad. We got purchased by a large multi-billion dollar corporation. Suddenly raises and bonuses are gone. Everything is about meeting metrics and numbers. They are so concerned about those metrics that they are ignoring everything else.... This company will be a shell of its former self in three years.

@nyanates

3 жыл бұрын

And how’s that working for you?

@Mr539forgotten

3 жыл бұрын

Moving up in a company through menial promotions and pitiful penny raises is a joke. ... So is being a lazy worker, doing the absolute minimum to get by and not get fired. But each to their own. Jumping companies and moving laterally within the company is where it's at.

@michaelh7527

3 жыл бұрын

@@nyanates It's working great. I have half the stress of the company loyalist. When laid off, I just go to another competitor. I get more money each time. Been with three companies in ten years.

I was a general contractor superintendent on a job renovating an old big box store into a new big box store. Early on I had a run in with a foreman who was allowing workers to work unsafely. I reprimanded him and he cried to management. The next morning I got a call saying the foreman can do as he sees fit and if I don't like it I can pack my tools and go home. I told him I was on my way and left my company pager on the job site since it was blowing up with pages . They had no idea who was hired or wasn't hired for any other contractors, and there was no way I was telling them. In the end I had to call police for an escort to the office to get some things the motel had mailed there after I left. The job was 8 hours away in another state.

Lesson from the second story of the maintenance worker: use your own personal notebook to keep notes so the company can’t say they provided you with the book and demand personal notebooks for their own possession!

@tihomirrasperic

3 жыл бұрын

It's a gray area, it doesn't matter what is your notebook, you use company information Microsoft itself says that if you bring your own laptop to work, it is covered by corporate licenses, not private ones.

@thunberbolttwo3953

Жыл бұрын

@@tihomirrasperic Once the notebook was gone. There was nothing they could do. Which is why the company did not sue him.

@michaelcastro5339

2 ай бұрын

​@@tihomirraspericthey can say whatever, the law is what matters and I don't remember any law that gives corporations ownership of your stuff if you take it to work

@NotALot-xm6gz

28 күн бұрын

Use a pen you purchased yourself to write your notes.

@LordRaine

3 күн бұрын

@@tihomirrasperic "It's a gray area," no it isn't. If a job gives me a bunch of keys, and I buy a keyring for my own use to hold them. And then later I quit that job. They have every right to demand back their keys, but they have no right at all to try and steal my keyring. Microsoft doesn't own your laptop in your own quoted instance, they own SOME of the data on it. If Microsoft required people to let them steal their laptops to work for them, no one would. The store didn't own his notebook. They arguably didn't own the information on it, either, since it was all made up by him in his spare time to make his job easier. It was key rings all the way down.

Basically same thing happened to me. I had been working a department that had taken me years to work out all the bugs and none of my experience came from any books. I knew my job backwards and forwards. Came into work one day and realized everyone was looking at me weird, like I was dying or something. Co worker told me they were laying off a lot of H card workers, which I was one of and they heard I was one of them that was being let go. I being confident in my abilities stated No way. Well way and I got my orders to report to another department next day. They were combining my job with another persons job. I told them that no way could one person do my job and another job. They didn’t care. I retired that day. I heard later that everything went to crap and they starting failing audits. Oh well couldn’t happen to better people.

I'm a big fan of the maintenance man. Some people who graduated college to get where they did are unkind to those who got where they did through tech school or apprenticeships. Have some respect for different honest laborers and their career paths. Besides, college certainly isn't for everybody, no matter what K-12 schools tell us all.

@deusvult6920

Жыл бұрын

The majority of things people go to college for shouldn't even require college.

Haha, this has happened to me several times. Once i had to draw up the wiring for a fire alarm system, order the parts, and install them, the manager was a temp, hired to oversee the job, but didn't have a clue what he was doing, and to cap that he was a self-important asshole. We eventually got the job finished but not before some bad screw-ups (his) and i eventually asked to see the director because the whole project was turning into a shit sandwich. The director said (via another manager) that he would not talk to me, and that the jerk manager was still my boss. I finished the job, took all the wiring diagrams and access codes with me, and left. Later i found out that both the manager and the director got fired for costing 250 grand's worth of screw ups, plus they had no more plans for the system. 10 years later exactly the same thing happened, only this time i had designed and built a production line with prototype machines, that i also designed. Again i left, took all the data with me, and had a good laugh at their total stupidity and incompetence :D

@paulsz6194

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the self important l managers get what they deserve! I’ve heard of such managers being referred to as “Seagull Managers “- they fly in , make a lot of noise, shit on everything and then leave..

@stawmy

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulsz6194 exactly! Those smooth talking creep managers you should avoid. They know nothing but they will take the credit for your hard work. That makes my blood boil.

@stawmy

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulsz6194 Exactly. I had to tell the chief electrician that he had a faulty encoder on one of his machines and that it must be replaced, he just stared blankly at me and asked, 'what is an Encoder?'Jeeeez....

Maintenance Guy: ESSENTIAL Desk Jockey pencil pushing bean counters: NOT Essential.

@dionuraulia968

3 жыл бұрын

Pro tip : Don't mess with maintenance lads

@davidhutchinson1320

3 жыл бұрын

Funny cuz its true.

@jackkraken3888

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on what they actually do. If that desk jockey does a terrible job it can kill the company. Bean counters can be valuable in making a company survive.

@stawmy

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackkraken3888 You would think so, i was at a company that had 1 million in spare parts that they would never use, yet they lacked the parts that we did need, we could not buy any more parts since they were already over budget. Soon after i told them this, the whole company got relocated to some other country, not here in any case....

@jackkraken3888

3 жыл бұрын

@Sky Pirate Sounds like they aren't really doing their job. Accounting is important to keep a business going.

"In a few cases MG had gone too far, like creating fire hazards by taping broken chargers together after rewiring them instead of tossing them." I'd bet good money he brought these kinds of things up to management multiple times before dealing with it himself because he was tired of watching his coworkers struggle for stupid reasons.

@apexone5502

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I wouldn't put it past his superiors being penny pinching managers who had constantly brushed him off because they were trying to keep a tight budget so that they can get that yearly bonus.

@hypnotoad28

3 жыл бұрын

Rewiring stuff like that isn't that dangerous if you know what you're doing.

@paulsz6194

3 жыл бұрын

Hypnotoad depends on the equipment you’re working on, and wether you have the. Correct (electrical ) training. There is a difference repairing mains-powered equipment & battery powered equipment.

@stawmy

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, been there done that, i threw them all in the garbage bin before they could even argue about it.

@weretron

3 жыл бұрын

yep... had to jerry rig lot of machines coz of greedy+stingy boss. we know its hazard but it was safe as long as we were there and keep maintaining it. we understand it is our job to keep everything running. but once you screw us up you cant even imagine how many screw we can stick on your face 😁

Maintenance story was awesome. I'm trained in a "skilled profession", which is computer programming. But I don't delude myself. A good maintenance worker is most certain also a skilled worker. I've never considered myself to be above or of higher class than the maintenance people. Every job is essential, and each requires commitment and expertise.

@bestofredditrevenge

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely

@cipher1167

Жыл бұрын

Skilled Maintenance people keep your computer on, and you keep their computer systems working. Goes hand to hand my friend, be humble people respect and like humble people.

@TheIronwil

Жыл бұрын

@@cipher1167 Well said.

@skylinefever

Жыл бұрын

@@cipher1167 If someone is unkind to maintenance staff, I dream about that person being in the coldest winter with no heater. Maintenance man? Sorry, maintenance man has no time for your BS, you are on the bottom of his priorities. He will help the people who respect him first.

@Butjuice69

Жыл бұрын

Maintenance is super important especially in manufacturing. I worked for a multi million dollar company and the millwright/maintenance dude was ESSENTIAL to the function of the business. Most of the time if one thing broke, it would cause a cluster f and you had to hope this guy was in the area, and not 3 hours away working on something for another site.

All organisations including government departments treats staff with contempt. Being loyal, efficient with high productivity is a thing of the past. Being lazy and setting a low bench mark received the same recognition so why bother trying.

Worked as an RN in a large hospital for the last 17 years of my career in health care. The management treated us about the same way. Retired now and don’t miss the BS.

I grew up very industrious and hard working. One of the first jobs I held was for a local retail chain - I was literally the “go for” boy who took care of all the odds and ends, some janitorial and maintenance. The time finally came when I moved on to a higher paying job. Not a whole bunch later I ran into my old store manager. He surprised me by saying that he was always wondering what I did all day long, but each time he had checked up on me I was actually doing something. He said he had thought I wasn’t really doing much, that I made myself look busy whenever he was around and that he was not initially sorry when I moved on. He said that it soon became apparent that I was the person doing all sorts of things he was unaware of until when some things weren’t right and the other employees told him that those were the things I used to take care of. It was nice to hear him say that he should have given me a raise and kept me on.

@5roundsrapid263

3 жыл бұрын

I’m the same way, always seeing little problems, and fixing them before they get big. A lot of people don’t think that way, and it’s caused me grief. I now have a manager who pays attention and recognizes what I do. He’s a great guy.

This is the reverse of pro revenge; my employer screwed themselves. When I retired, I waited a month for the store to send me someone to train to take my place. They never sent anyone. They also never asked me for the sixteen years of machine manuals and SOP's and business contacts I had on my company email account. I kept them there because that is how they were supplied to me. The day I left, they removed me from the system and deleted my email account. Oh, well!

My dad work in a copper foundry. The line is long, made with machine from 1960-now. There the smelter, then it drip into a wire machine, then its getting stretched to a smaller caliber, then its getting treated and finally bundled... Its gigantic. Now, only 5 ppl know how to run the smelter properly. They were taught over the years by other employee. Its complicated, and if you do something wrong you end up with solidified cooper blocking the machine that you with melt with a torch, by hand.... Company changed hands. Tried to cut benefits and pay to all employee. Those 5 guys said "no" and went home. Company tried to get engineer to understand the beast... Nah, its all custom made with no blueprints. Tried to get one of those guy to come as a consultant to explain, he refused. In the end they got their job back, benefit and pay for the whole plant stayed as what they were.

As an opposite to the MG story, I have one about my wife. She works for a company that deals with many parts, they are contracted through a government agency. She has been stuck at one position for a couple years now and was finally moving on to a more challenging position. While she was there she kept extremely detailed record of how to do each task, down to the smallest details. When management asked her if she had any information to pass onto her replacement, she handed that notebook over. They were so amazed with her work, they deleted their old version and replaced it with hers, and went as far to send a company memo to give her the props for her outstanding work. Not all companies are bad like "Ball-Mart" there (which we both have worked for lol), some companies value their associates contributions!

@WhiteWolfos

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats! I think they were moving her up and not firing her to be the factor here. Anybody could become disgruntled if they know they will get fired for crumy reasons like cutting costs(to the point of turning a blind eye on essential people). Even worse of a feeling if they're replacing you with a total newbie because that's what management thinks of your maintenance work.

I already read the 2nd story on Reddit and it still holds up. Management should respect workers plain and simple. The idea that they are simply machines that can be replaced is just plain wrong. Give your workers dignity.

The thing I’ve had come up in my work life over the years is efficiency resentment. I’m very efficient in getting things done. If there is a more efficient way to do something, I find it. Some people can’t fathom another way to do something, no matter how much better. Then management steps in with, _”that’s not how we do that.”_ Not because of safety or similar, but because their ego hurts. I once led a team filling out a huge retail department pre-store opening. My team and I got it done in record time, but not before my butting heads several times with the corporate suits. One idiot especially. It never ceases to amaze me some people.

I've worked maintenance for the last 20 years and it's always the same story. Management views maintenance as a necessary evil that on paper just costs them money. They have no clue how with limited funds we keep their out-of-date machinery cobbled together and running to make them their money. Some of the decisions that come from up top are mind numbingly stupid sometimes and it shows how out of touch the upper echelons are. Amazing how a piece of paper can make a complete moron somehow smart in the eyes of their peers.

I did the same. Use to keep notes on different machines and computers, as to the fact the calibration between both were off, for different thicknesses of metal. Well, supervisor one day says:” my son will be coming into the shop, for your job. I’ll need your notes? As he was aware I took notes.” With all the different jobs I did, those notes were my notes. I told him that! Later at home I burnt 🥵 them!!!

@billdougan4022

3 жыл бұрын

That's why work orders are now filled out on a computer and step used to fix equipment and can be accessed by upper management.

@Hambone571

3 жыл бұрын

I would have said, “My NOTES are MY property for MY personal use to help me do MY job better. You want them, make me a $ offer.”

@henryanaya90

3 жыл бұрын

I work in a metal shop too it's always good to keep notes but that's your personal property fuck them let em figure it out don't hand it to them on a silver platter

@dcgo44r

3 жыл бұрын

@@billdougan4022 explain more.. Is that means that this process is better than having a knowledgeable employee on site?

I worked for a telecom for a couple years as an engineer. I kept files on everything. Everything. One day I come to work after a couple days of leave and all of my files are simply gone. Some manager had decided the file cabinets blocked his view to the windows and they "had to go". The next day, I resigned and went on to a new job at a company not run by idiots. About a month later, they had a significant failure of a system and wouldn't you know it? Not one scrap of documentation on it existed. They actually wanted to pay me to come back and fix the system. Eff them. They are long gone now and that manager now works in a deli.

I had a teacher like Mrs Frank in the 4th grade. She derided the fact that I was from a "broken home", that my mother worked outside the home, and that our family being working class, she felt that I had no place in a school with the children of wealthy families. Nothing I did was ever good enough, and when I excelled at anything, she dismissed it as me cheating... somehow. My mom eventually had enough of the treatment, requested a conference with the principal, and then tore into my teacher with ruthless efficiency. The principal sided with my mother and told my teacher to lay off her bias against me.

@gbear1005

3 жыл бұрын

Rich kids tend to have no work ethic and deep feelings of entitlement

@sitdowndogbreath

3 жыл бұрын

@Scranvan and that's why they're targets now especially with BLM and antifa

Document everything, is all I have to say.

@GeorgeMinton-jb8ky

3 жыл бұрын

on your home computer.

@everydayjoe4323

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Great fantastic advice. But do not forget dates and times. Save all emails

@manuelluis5456

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeMinton-jb8ky never papi they have access to your computer memory !

@ddec20yahoo

3 жыл бұрын

He should have told his parents so they could have gotten a lawyer.

@kurtgreen1040

3 жыл бұрын

I work in a place just like that

Something like this happened where I used to work. Except they made him redundant then had to re-employ him as a consultant . He finished up making a mint

Yes! "C.Y.A." good old fashioned pen and paper, log everything. That simple and honest act has saved my hiney on multiple occasions. Good on ya !

We had a new supervisor in the maintenance shop that cost them at least 100k. She had a full shelf of participation trophies, a college degree, and it was obvious, she had never been told she was wrong. She decided to rearrange the shop and throw out all the spare parts. She had no idea what anything was or how it works. I laugh every time they need the stuff that got thrown out.

@kimrok1

3 жыл бұрын

Yep.

We had a similar case in my school and class between an abusive teacher and some students. Some of the students smuggled their smartphones into class to record the teachers behavior before submitting it to their parents, police, and school trustees. Needless to say, it ended with both students expelled from that school permanently and the distraught parents had no legal recourse to get justice. The trustees and police never asked us other students as witnesses to corraborate the recordings because of the recordings were done without the teachers knowledge. In my province, recording someone without their knowledge is a serious offense and they can legally flip the tables on you. The students were blacklisted in the school system as trouble makers after their expulsion.

@habituallearner7680

Жыл бұрын

Oh, that's horrible! I wish that somehow (oops, the student's phone got stolen) an anonymous third party outside the reach of their laws couldn't have uploaded the info onto social media so that the abusive teachers could get tried in the court of public opinion.

@leahpateric5691

Жыл бұрын

I think sending that kind of evidence to news outlets would be good enough to embarrass the teacher and school

@markfreeman4727

10 ай бұрын

@@leahpateric5691 he just said that it was illegal in that state, that idea probably would have landed them in more trouble, public defamation probably

@leahpateric5691

10 ай бұрын

Well tbf I did actually almost get expelled because I kept arguing with the meaner teachers and refusing to go detention, so I was kind of a trouble student anyway

to the maintenance man or even computer person that works for a company. If it is your personal documentation don't share it with management and when you leave take it with you to dump in the trash or do whatever you want to do with it. If they treat you well you still may want to keep it so that they can figure out that they need you and they can offer you a big raise to come back to work for them. If they treat you poorly don't give them anything that will help them when you are gone. Also, never believe that management ever has your best interest at heart and that you are trading your time for their money. Never look back and never go back if they mistreat you.

i'm a tech guy who aready work for several company in my 20+ years of working experience. most of those company were using old machines and i manage to keep it alive while i was working there. when company goes stingy for new machine or for proper fix or parts replacement i had to jerry rig everything to keep it alive and to keep the company running. most of those company were closed or went bankupt several month after i quit working for them. most of them kept calling me back after they realised the new tech cant even understand what i did to make those machine or system working. i refuse and down they go in the drain. greedy, stingy, arrogance. any company with those kind management i'll say bye bye.

When i was in Europe i heard a story about this guy who started in a company as a kid. He learned a machine in the company and became the only one who knew how it worked and how to fix it. Ran it for decades. Then a kid fresh out of college who probably only saw the machine in a book became his boss and told him to run the machine a different way. Guy said it doesnt run that way and they sent him home. Within an hour they ran the machine the bosses way and it blew up. They called the guy and asked him to repair it. He said no and hung up. Sad that this is now a daily occurence in businesses across the globe and they are dying. Empty buildings littering the landscape.

Reminds me of my old job as the facilities guy at Sheetz 287, Valley Vista. Worked there for 5 years. Did countless little things I didn't have to do. Like: check new egg cartons for cracked eggs, cleaned the vacuum filter, helped management keep track of supplies, organized everything, clean trash cans, check pumps for ID theft devices, knock snow off the awnings so it wouldn't fall on customers, and much much more. When my yearly vacation would come up, I'd leave a paper listing things they needed to do; and even though I omitted both basic stuff, like trash, and the routine bi-weekly stuff, since I was only ever gone for a week, it still filled a page. I once made a packet called "Where in the Store is Zach," detailing some of my routine, so management would have an easier time finding me. When I would get back, some staff would be overjoyed. Since they no longer had to do some of the things I did. A couple others would tell me stories of them realizing how much shit I did. For instance, one guy told the manager he had to change bag-in-box for one of the drinks at the soda fountain, but couldn't remember the last time he had to do that. To which, our manager told him that was because Zach checks it every morning and lets them know when we need to order a replacement, before it runs out. The stuff I did wasn't maintenance stuff like this guy in the reddit story. Honestly, I would make sure stuff got fixed, not hold it together with duct tape. In my case, it was mostly that no one would do some things because I always did it; and then new people came who never thought about some of this stuff because they never had to do it. In the end, I had to leave due to my apartment building catching fire from lightning. Some of the customers asked when I would be coming back. If any of you are reading this, sorry I'm in EMS now; but I hope you are all doing well. Everything I did there was to help you all where ever I could. Whether that was keeping the toilets clean or asking how things were in life.

@RealHomeRecording

3 жыл бұрын

You're a good dude.

@grmpEqweer

3 жыл бұрын

You're awesome. Thanks for being you.😊

five people now do the job I once did by myself.

@stevemccull9699

3 жыл бұрын

That happened to my Dad, hi school administrator. Took 2 newbies to do his 3 tasks

@davidhenderson3400

2 ай бұрын

I have heard that story so many times I've lost count. they get rid of one person and then have to hire anywhere between 3 to 5 to replace what the one person did and they never seem to learn the lesson.

Maintenance is like quality control. So many business people see them as 'non-value added' because their work doesn't directly increase the value of a single product. What these people don't see is that these groups ensure the value of the entire brand. Cut on them and the best product in the world won't save you.

@gbear1005

3 жыл бұрын

Quality control has several legs, maint being the most important

2nd story: We need that notebook. MG: What notebook? I own a notebook. It's personal property and you may not have it. MG should have then gone to health boards and report company for all those safety inspections.

@MadsterV

3 жыл бұрын

-We need that notebook -Yes you do!

@manuelluis5456

3 жыл бұрын

Rephrase ?!?!?!?!?!?! Please , Mr.

….I retired just in time from a job with a big insurance company. Mostly because they were cutting benefits to save money, just got out under the wire. The old reliable managers happened to be retired before me and with them they took a lot of knowledge and respect. The new ones had no idea what we did and how we did it and came up with all kinds of new and disastrous ways to do our jobs. They did this from a couple of floors above us, whereas the old managers worked with us and knew our work. Think the new managers made all these changes to look important and like they were doing something. All they did was make it harder to work quickly and a lot of mistakes were made. Before I left I put down a job description online as requested. I did it mostly because I was leaving (retirement) and didn’t want the people I worked with to have trouble doing the job. I liked them and felt bad with what they were going to have to put up with. Found out later there were some major disasters after I left, but I don’t know the details. I will assume they either didn’t use my instructions or lost the transcript. One old co-worker told me they missed me not being there anymore. After that, no further information as most of the people who worked there moved on. Modern management treats its skilled workers worse than slaves…

The notebook was personal property. He could have said so and not surrendered it. If they physically took it from him it would be assault, and theft. In short, they could be escorted out in cuffs.

I went to a small school, so we just had one teacher per grade for the younger kids. I was in 6th grade and had to deal all day every day with a teacher just like Mrs. Franks. My mom didn't believe me, and I just shut down and said nothing in school for most of the year. Abusive teachers are a real thing and it sucks.

I’ve just left a company due to a forced redundancy, the problem is that with twenty five years of experience there is nobody left that actually knows how to do my job. To save a few dollars they have destroyed their nationwide service department and cost themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars. Being in a niche industry you just can’t outsource the service or hire experienced people off the street, when you decide to replace the most experienced person in the country in the industry you pay the price. I know exactly how OP felt because I did exactly the same thing when I left, twenty five years of invaluable information and it’s all in my head and that’s where it’s staying in the meantime I’m enjoying my retirement as well as watching an unmitigated disaster unfold and the anguish of people now realising they made a very expensive mistake.

@petuniasevan

3 жыл бұрын

My dad always called that "stepping over a dollar to save a dime".

@peterbuckley3877

3 жыл бұрын

@Jeff Peate or the problem of putting unqualified people in positions who only target short term monetary gains instead of looking at the bigger picture. But as usual these types of people move on to their next disaster in waiting before the long term damage us discovered.thats the reason most CEOs move on after three to five years.these people all have the same university inspired mindset that they are always right and smarter than everybody else, good managers listen to long term and experienced employees and incorporate some if that wisdom into their decisions.

As he threw the book into the compactor the management could not accuse him of theft as he did not take the book off the premises, Fair Play to yer man.

@linardskinard8199

3 жыл бұрын

unless its company issued , its personal property,I wouldny keep notes in a company issued book ,the log book is all they get

I was a supercomputer prototype test engineer for a company in St. Louis. And was fired and the company went from $1 million profit to $1 million loss per year. And they fired the director. And sold to their competitor.

@mahnor643

3 жыл бұрын

Almost the same scenario as you. Worked from being a tech to an engineer. I was never given the raises and promotion that I deserved since I only have an Associates degree. A lot of companies think that they can solve problems with procedures but this is a flawed approach because there is a lot of engineers in companies that do not really have skills.

You'd think any place that trains managers would remind them to "Never fuck with the maintenance or IT guys."

There was a part that was starting to fail a lot in a fleet I took care off. If I removed the part and sent it out, the repair company would refurbish the entire part for 1500 bucks. In reality it was just leaking badly and could have just been resealed. The repair company said they wouldn’t just do that. So I decided to order the special tools for disassemble and gasket kits to reseal them myself. I destroyed the first couple because there were many small parts, springs and washers that needed to go together just right but I was obviously taking it all apart in the wrong order. After a while I was able to disassemble and reassemble with new external gaskets and things lasted. Total parts cost was 40 bucks. So my compensation was getting paid 4hrs per job (flat rate technician). I got very good at doing this where I could get it done in 1.5hrs and still got paid 4hrs. But one day I guess I did 3 of these reseals and when the boss saw 12hrs billed, he thought I was being too greedy. So he only paid me 4.5hrs (actually time it took). I complained at my paycheck and he said tough. So I quit fixing the issue and let other people handle it. By this time, other guys were able to find my reseal jobs on out of service units and just installed them. And they got paid 3hrs per job..... Management is always willing to screw you if they think they can to save a buck. But I would still go out of my way to do things better at the next shop I would work for. It doesn’t change who you are, it just changes who you are willing to work for.

@k.chriscaldwell4141

3 ай бұрын

That sounds familiar. They cut off their nose off to spite their face. I once figured out how to boost sales by 30% (Yes, 30%) in a big-chain store I worked at during college. I almost got fired for my effort, despite using a company approved protocol and having my manager’s approval. They didn’t even try to learn how I’d done it so they could try it in the several thousands of stores they had. They just told me to stop, and then changed the protocol. They left MANY $millions on the table by doing that.

Walmart I would have thrown the note book away too.

@cleverusernamenexttime2779

3 жыл бұрын

Them shitbags probably went swimming for it.

I worked as a welding inspector back in the 70s and 80s, working in nuclear power plants under construction, and I know that sometimes to get things done right, you just have to burn a bridge or two.

Story 1, he is my spirit brother.

I transferred to a new job where the guy I replaced obviously left unhappy. I contacted him to meet about the job, he said he didn’t have time, talk to his boss. His boss knew nothing and the guy had destroyed all his records, emails, everything. Not a single piece of paper in his office.

@tihomirrasperic

3 жыл бұрын

you don't need destroy any records, point is to make them hidden / buried and make your folder encrypted for "security reasons" :-)

@mrtow1881

3 жыл бұрын

@@tihomirrasperic we have requirements for inspection documents, logs, drawings, audits be hard copy for different inspections.

Only time I've seen a teacher get themselves fired was when my computer instructor told the class "take your time with the quiz so you don't jew yourselves out of points". I don't think any of the students would've said anything. But the assistant principal just happened to walk into the class at that exact moment.

If you're reading this. DONT fuck around with the administration - go straight to an attorney!!!!

Radio Shack... a blast from the past. Build my first transistor radio from that shop before it became a mini Best Buy,

I wanna hear those tapes!

The managers had no right to demand he hand over his personal notebook. They were total complete idiots about everything.

After 10-12 years I had a lot of machines working because of my delicate care, or by strict weekly or daily checking, and a lot of money saved buying non official spare parts, but with the same quality and specs. Close to NEVER NOBODY was interested about the maintenance of his own equipment... and then there was no notebook or check-list or standards or rules to do the things... Close to what Rutger Hauer say at Blade Runner: All this knowledge will be lost in time, like tears in rain". I feel sorrow for the 3 part-time students that tried to replace me without a clue.

I would’ve taken a step further, I would’ve made it so that under no way they could’ve got that book back! As a professional maintenance guy myself I do the same thing I take notes I keep stuff like that I keep a book in my pocket at all times! If I was in his shoes I would have flush that book down the damn toilet, or just keep the book in my pocket and tell my boss I threw it in the trash compactor just to watch a bunch of idiots tear through the trash compactor and never find it!! All I can say is until you are a maintenance guy or girl you just don’t understand just how important a good maintenance team is to making a business successful

@leonhardvogt2999

Жыл бұрын

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@tomhaskett5161

Жыл бұрын

Or just shred it...

He should have told them "You can't HAVE my notebook, but you can BUY it. Make me an offer."

@WhiteWolfos

3 жыл бұрын

Nah they barely care about his job. It'd be better if he called up a safety inspector and checked all the safety hazards the management didn't care to point out and have replaced properly.

YUP, I would not put it past them to treat a good man that way. They have no issues about stiffing ppl on the timecard, they seem to have their moral compass efft up at times.

@grmpEqweer

3 жыл бұрын

Wage theft is a huge problem in the United States.

I have yet to meet a Manager who doesn't try to dump as much of their own duties onto Maintenance, Cleaners & Security Guards.

MG got screwed. His employer had no right to his personal notes until he was coerced to throw it in their trash. The information in his notes is worth more than all the machines. 15 years of personal work stolen.

For the teacher I had that many times. They don't care and well I ended up getting them in trouble and did as I want and even corrected the teacher and other people

@bestofredditrevenge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

I liked the story of the guy and the notebook. Reminds me of a engineer that left our job because the company downsized ( printing industry). But we had a water chiller motor that only the now gone engineer could fix. After trying to find parts for the motor, none available, it was discovered that the motor was from a WW2 Liberty ship. Sorry no more parts & we got a new motor.

Sounds like Mrs. Frank had an attitude (not the right word) problem that allowed things to get to her. Maybe she can find another use for her teaching skills.

I learned from my first job, join a union

@TwoLotus2

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, they give you a lot of protection. Particularly with big companies.

Many years back my baby sister was in Kindergarten and had a HORRIBLE teacher, all the kiddos were deathly afraid of her and would come home with soiled undergarments because she did not allow them to use the bathroom. She had been under scrutiny for years and the board knew about her but were kept from doing anything about it. She was evidently untouchable, my Dad who was an oil company executive went in to visit her-she retired the next day!!! I asked him 2 times to explain what he told her but he said that he would not repeat it- I didn't care then nor do I care now!!!

When your the one that assembles the engine then you are the one with the knowledge on how to disassemble them. Then management can reassemble them - oops they have no idea how to.

Sounds like Mrs. Franks got herself roasted

Loyalty dont mean anything. Im glad i have now started working for myself.

I designed a new part for a rv company and after missing 3 days because of court my supervisor got pissy with me and fired me the plant manager agreed with him I agreed to not fight the illegal firing and they wrote me my final check for 35k after all I did for them on the way out I slipped my hand drawn notes into my pocket smiling and spend the next year doing nothing now I have a better job and I've peeked at the part on a new rv it's badly made I still have no regrets

A slow boy who asks questions (that could not have been answered by listening or reading) is a treasure because they are telling you exactly what you need to be teaching more carefully.

A few years back I saw a whole department let go by United Health Care / Optum Technology. 85% of them were over 58 or over in age. Moved to India.

I am a maintenance person also and ybsts how you get treated...and without fail when you quit..they call you back up to a couple months later asking how things were fixed or when things needed servicing...I also documented everything in notebooks and happily took them with me when they "no longer " needed me... I went back to one of the jobs after they realised they needed me there and they gave me a massive pay rise to come back

I'll bet that MG was probably older than all the management because we already know he's much wiser

When I was young, I had trouble keeping up with my peers in school. And had little interest in my education. (I feel like I had/have some disorder or another but my family is poor, so never got it diagnosed.) And when I say young, I mean up to Third grade. Well, in the Third grade, my teacher, Mrs. Prossor, got fed up with my lack of interest and got in my face about it practically yelling at me because I was having difficulty with memorizing multiplication tables. I remember this vividly because I kept thinking about how she smelled weird(a bit like spoiled milk) and the wart on her face was huge.( yeah, to put it politely, I would now describe her appearance as being hag-like) After this incident (me being too young to properly articulate just kind of accepted this) I then began overcompensating by listening to everything and commiting it to memory as best I could. Eventually, this led to me having too little trouble in school and never getting good study habits. Which continued up until I got my GED and left high school at sixteen. Really, I feel like I got screwed over here and hope eventually behavior like that from her got her fired. Because when a kid struggles to understand, you don't yell at them like it's something they can control.

To be fair, getting fired from a job doesn't financially ruin you. Guarantee the lady had either another teaching job or equivalent paying job by the next school year.

First story. I once had an Algebra teacher dog cuss me in front of of the entire class. This was back when ‘New Math’ was the rage & I was having trouble even w/a tutor. He was in a protected class & nothing was ever done to him

@bestofredditrevenge

3 жыл бұрын

some people should not be allowed to be teachers

@princessmarlena1359

3 жыл бұрын

Glad my piece of shit math teacher was fired shortly before retirement. A complete incompetent, could not teach for crap.

@haqeeqee

3 жыл бұрын

What is “New Math”?

@autarko

Жыл бұрын

@@haqeeqee Back in the 1960s they tried to make math more appealing to girls by making it more about stories and people rather than learning skills.

First story makes me want to go full Escanor.

Wasn't maintenance but as a line cook i did some minor maintenance. New plug end on equipment was easy. Had a day off and they spent 100 on a electrician to put a plug on a piece of equipment. Yet I barely got a thank you when I did it.

In Australia (during the waterfront dispute) to make the wharves more efficient they fired all the old sea dogs who minded ships when in harbour. They didn’t realise they adjusted the ropes as the tides changed. I was watching the News with one of them around 1998 when ships were hanging onto the side of the wharf when the 6m (20ft) tide went out. There was hilarious laughter at gang planks falling into the sea in the next news. They didn’t have to lift a finger ! 🤣

On good days for a good boss, I can and will make your factory run and be profitable. Ona bad day with a bad boss, I will milk you for countless hours of OT, and not needed spare parts, laughing all the while. I loved working up to or down to each situation. Thanks for the memories!

I was let go as an automation programmer because the owner of the company thought I made too much money. They hired a student to replace me and a friend who still worked there told me the first thing the new guy did was blow up a $5000 programmable controller. Hilarious!

@bestofredditrevenge

3 жыл бұрын

lol that is hilarious

Working industrial the umbral question is: Is the truth told in an even-handed, non-threatening, non-belittling way insubordinate? Answer: It is NOT INSUBORDINATE IF you have two more witnesses (who won't crumble under pressure) and physical evidence.

At my school our female math teacher was a lesbian and would fail all the boys and pass all the girls.

@SM77785

3 жыл бұрын

That is called corruption and it is highly illegal. Wasn't some sort of action taken against her?

He didn’t need to throw it out or hand it over. If it was his personal property, the company had no right to take it. Also, if they said he would be fired as soon as he handed over his badge, knife and notebook, he probably could have kept that job a lot longer by challenging their demand for the notebook. Until they decided to fire him anyway, I guess.

Every single one of these stories "I was perfect at x, and I have no idea why I was treated this way".

Revenge is a fine cuisine ......BEST SERVED COLD!!!

Never mess with maintenance they know more than you realise

A business is like a machine. There are some parts that are more vital than others and perform more important tasks, but those parts wouldn't be able to perform their function without all of the other "less important" parts that work to enable that function to be done. When you are an employee of a company, be you the CEO or simply a receptionist, your role is vital and without you, the company will struggle or collapse.

Lmao 1st story lady gaurenteed just got shuffled.

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My Dad worked in a Textile Factory as a Maintenance Head, well he knew what he was doin, he kept that plant up and running with 3 Co-workers. Well 20 years of working at Champion Knitting they "Restructured' and the senior employees was on the block, during that time he put together a large amount of notes on his different duties and what/hows of all kinds of different types of system's from HVAC to Waste Water, he had boxes of 3 ring binders, binders in his rolling tool box, 2 decades of factory maintenance knowledge that he made on his own and when he left, he took em with him. Before he left they had him train his replacement, he used the notes, showed him where what info was etc, he told him that those books had 20 years of info in them and was invaluable to helping you do your job efficiently. That ol fella shit when he came in to work and the first thing he went for was the notes, my dad of course took them with him, left him a notebook and a pen with a little note "Here's a good place for you to start".

@bestofredditrevenge

3 жыл бұрын

that is too funny

@Sorain1

3 жыл бұрын

Oh god that's brutal. I love it.

Revenge.... Quickest way to hell. Forgive and forget.

Dammmm

First story: I was treated like that by two different teachers, one in second grade, the other in fifth grade. This was in the 1970s and I had NO recourse; I was just a kid and if I'd managed to bring a tape recorder and take the tape to the principal it would have been confiscated and destroyed, and my life would have been made even more miserable. For the things you said and did to children, Mrs. Gates and Mr. Mooneyham..... may you rot in hell.

I would have walked out with my notebook held to my chest, it's personal property. Companies have no rights to take your personal property

photograph everything . if you can , wear a personal video voice recorder at all times . don’t record over the memory card . buy new ones and store all the old ones . it will save your life one day

@Matt-bg6kf

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you work in a hospital ...

Somebody told me that my boss was gunning for me. He told me to do a certain job and have it done when he was back from his trip to France. I found out he would be working in another department. He never told our boss he was leaving and it was down to a critical time. He had me in a meeting with our boss and said he was going to fire me. I asked why, if you're going to the other department? He about crapped his drawers. He had kept this a secret from her. Our boss asked him if what I said was true? He tried to blame me for telling lies. Boss dismissed me from the meeting. She ripped into him so loudly I could hear it through the closed door. Her secretary gave me a thumbs up. The boss later was very sorry I hat to put up with an a-hole like him. This was at a public school, so nothing could/would happen to him. So much for public schools.

Accept the un-firing. Take the notebook, simply write 'F*** You', and then tell them you quit.

The second story. That MG made it dangerous at there store.

Have had horrible jobs. It's usually the owner or management that was just out of touch. One place during my interview they wanted me to test 30 products a day and send em to shipping. Was up to 50-55 a day. He said wow great job. Then after a while he wanted 80-90 a day. Not possible. Was let go. Other time I was a manager and two guys didn't show up. One finally did at noon. As soon as he showed up they fired me. I was working on cars all day and was doing two at a time. I couldn't believe it. I said I have no power over firing or writing someone up so how is it my problem they were late. Heard they used me to make an example. I went to grab my tool box and leave. Guy came out and asked why I was still there. I'm like to grab my things. He walked me out. Was so weird. I felt dumb and was confused by it all. Im thinking why didn't they get rid of those two guys. I made the most by a lot so idk maybe that's why. All I can think of. Was years ago so I don't care

"Cost cutting " can cost more than you think... so treat the most valuable part of your business well. your loyal workers who actually save you money that if you attempt to go without for short term gains will make for significant long term losses not worth the short term gain to appear to be more valuable at your "pencil pushing" job when breaking up parts of working patterns dissolves it's entire structure (although "pencil pushing" jobs in of themselves shouldn't be undervalued)

I remember "Ballmart", they got lots of balls.